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November 3
Identical Blu-ray/DVD remote
Does a Blu-ray/DVD remote have to be the same as the other? 86.141.121.115 (talk) 19:45, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
- The other what? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 20:25, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
- Other remote. 86.141.121.115 (talk) 21:45, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
- Still confused. Do you mean a remote for two different devices? Nil Einne (talk) 23:48, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
- As far as I know any bluray player will also play DVDs so you don't need two devices. Now I don't know if that applies to 4K or 3D players so other editors can correct me if I'm wrong. MarnetteD|Talk 00:35, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
- I mean the same Blu-ray/DVD remote. 86.141.121.115 (talk) 21:37, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
- So do you mean, "Do all Blu-ray/DVD remotes have to be the same?"? --Lambiam 08:34, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
- Yes. 86.141.121.115 (talk) 21:38, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
- Still confused. Do you mean a remote for two different devices? Nil Einne (talk) 23:48, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
- Other remote. 86.141.121.115 (talk) 21:45, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
- It’s actually an interesting question. Theoretically, according to the literature, it should work, assuming the IR frequency is the same. Viriditas (talk) 08:44, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
- If you mean do you meed to replace your old remote control with a similar one, yes. It must be designed for that model. You might get away with a different remote from the same manufacturer, or a so called universal remote, but it may have some features missing. Shantavira|feed me 11:48, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
- Are you asking whether the physical design of the remote has to be the same, or are you asking about some other feature of the remotes? MtPenguinMonster (talk) 11:53, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
- I'm asking if the physical design of the remote has to be the same. 86.141.121.115 (talk) 21:39, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
- My understanding is that you have only two choices: you can use another identical remote from an identical player, or you can use a universal remote. Viriditas (talk) 21:45, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
- So does my Blu-ray/DVD remote have to be identical? 5.80.15.114 (talk) 20:11, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
- It will depend on the manufacturer(s). ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 21:44, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
- Yes Baseball Bugs is right. While I don't have that much experience with Bluray or DVD player remotes, with TV remotes I do know manufacturers sometimes preserve at least some of the IR codes while redesigning the remote's physical look. You can probably confirm this looking online at LIRC codes or similar. In other words, the remote may not have to be identical to work although it will generally have to be for the same brand and type of device. IIRC in the past, some VCR remotes had a few buttons to control the TV from the same manufacturer, I don't know if this ever happened with DVD or Bluray players and more importantly I'm even more skeptical it happened in the reverse. (I.E. even if there were player remotes with keys to control a TV, I still doubt there were original manufacturer TV remotes with codes to control players. Universal remotes etc are a different story.) Note with HDMI CEC, it's theoretically possible to control a Bluray or DVD player via a TV or some other device connected to the player with HDMI but to be clear the remote codes are still be understood by the TV or whatever and passed to the player. Also it's likely commodified nature of the player market has affected things in some way. (Where manufacturers generally keep models for ages and design etc may be partly or complete outsourced.) Nil Einne (talk) 03:15, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
- It will depend on the manufacturer(s). ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 21:44, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
- So does my Blu-ray/DVD remote have to be identical? 5.80.15.114 (talk) 20:11, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
- My understanding is that you have only two choices: you can use another identical remote from an identical player, or you can use a universal remote. Viriditas (talk) 21:45, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
- I'm asking if the physical design of the remote has to be the same. 86.141.121.115 (talk) 21:39, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
- Sorry, I'm still stuck on what the OP is actually asking. Your Blu-Ray player will play DVDs. You don't need two devices or two remotes; you just need the BD player and its remote control. If you have two devices for some reason, the remotes almost certainly won't work across devices. Matt Deres (talk) 16:59, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
November 4
Humans in star wars universe
Hi everyone! If in the universe of star wars the earth does not exist, from which planet do human beings originate? Thanks!!79.148.166.24 (talk) 20:43, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
- I don't think anyone actually knows, but Wookieepedia says that the planet of Coruscant was thought to be the original homeworld. This bothers me because it is generally assumed that the Star Wars galactic empire is based on and draws from Asmimov's own idea, with Coruscant being loosely based on the planet of Trantor. In Asimov's Foundation universe, humanity originally traveled to Trantor from Earth after colonizing the galaxy over thousands of years. So given all the indirect references, it would make sense for humans to have traveled to Coruscant from an ancient Earth as well. Viriditas (talk) 21:11, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
- What makes you think the entities in the Star Wars universe are humans? It might just be a coincidental resemblance - including having developed the English language independently. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 21:13, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
- What makes you think they are speaking English? Do you have the same impression when watching Ben-Hur?--User:Khajidha (talk) (contributions) 15:54, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
- Maybe not. Maybe the soundtrack contains the work of Babel fish. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 18:06, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
- AFAIK the language that is rendered as English in the Star Wars films is actually a language called "Galactic Basic". It is just rendered as English for the benefit of the audience. I don't know if actual Galactic Basic has ever been defined, but if it has, it's quite probably very different from English. JIP | Talk 21:00, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
- What makes you think they are speaking English? Do you have the same impression when watching Ben-Hur?--User:Khajidha (talk) (contributions) 15:54, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
- Wait. I thought it was a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away? --Floquenbeam (talk) 21:16, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
- Literally, sure. But I always thought that phrase meant something else entirely. To me, it was a deliberate reference to "Once upon a time", telling us that what we are about to see was a "modern fairy tale" (Lucas). Viriditas (talk) 00:53, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
- That was the idea, yes. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 01:34, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
- It also is a safeguard against lawsuits; if the descendants of a Galactic Senator on Trantor claim their forebear was falsely represented in the narrative, Lucasfilm can defend itself by pointing out this is a different galaxy and so any resemblance is purely coincidental. --Lambiam 08:03, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
- For example, to dissuade Abe Vigoda from suing over the fish-faced "It's a trap!" guy. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 18:31, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
- Technically, he's a squid-faced guy. --User:Khajidha (talk) (contributions) 14:47, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
- For example, to dissuade Abe Vigoda from suing over the fish-faced "It's a trap!" guy. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 18:31, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
- It also is a safeguard against lawsuits; if the descendants of a Galactic Senator on Trantor claim their forebear was falsely represented in the narrative, Lucasfilm can defend itself by pointing out this is a different galaxy and so any resemblance is purely coincidental. --Lambiam 08:03, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
- That was the idea, yes. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 01:34, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
- Literally, sure. But I always thought that phrase meant something else entirely. To me, it was a deliberate reference to "Once upon a time", telling us that what we are about to see was a "modern fairy tale" (Lucas). Viriditas (talk) 00:53, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
- Many aspects of the Star Wars universe were created "as needed" when each movie/book/TV show, etc. was created. There was always some effort to maintain a cohesive canon, pre-Disney-takeover, this was the Holocron canon, now called Star Wars Legends, as Disney broke this canon and established their own canon, but there was not a well-developed "back story" or "legendarium" or "hidden canon" upon which the story was built. Lucas himself made things up as he was making the original trilogy; the famous "Vader" reveal, and the Luke-Leia sibling relationship, for example, were not a thing until the scripts for ESB and ROTJ were written, respectively. This is very different from how, for example, the Tolkien legendarium was established. Tolkien had a backstory and world already created, and then wrote a story to exist in that world. There's volumes and volumes of notes, letters, and other works that Tolkien had no intention of publishing as stories, but which establish the world in which the characters of LotR inhabit. Nearly all of this was later published after his death, but the thing is, the world is so vast, that many of the questions you might have about the background of LotR and The Hobbit is probably in his notes somewhere. The deal is, that kind of detail doesn't usually exist for most series. The Star Wars canon only exists in the official works. So unless it is in one of the recognized works published in the universe, it's an unknown detail. Much of the mythic cosmology and deep history of the Star Wars universe is basically unexplained. --Jayron32 16:09, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
- And the most important question of all (which I am surprised that no one, even myself, has asked before now): what makes you think that the Earth does not exist in the Star Wars universe? --User:Khajidha (talk) (contributions) 16:28, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
- If Earth does not exist, what is the Star Wars galaxy "far, far away" from? I suppose this means, "far away from you, Earth-bound spectator". It is meaningless to assert that some galaxy is "far away" from something non-existent. --Lambiam 16:44, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
- Exactly. --User:Khajidha (talk) (contributions) 16:58, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
- But, per "Long, long ago . . ." the Earth may not yet exist in the era of Star Wars. "A galaxy far away" implies a distance of at least several million light years (since Local Group galaxies are comparatively nearby as these things go), and since there is never (to my knowledge) any suggestion of extra-galactic travel in the milieu, a date of at least several million years ago is also implied (or we could not know about them). This also precludes the human-like characters actually being human.
- Since the Solar system is less than 5 billion years old, but the Universe is more than 13 byo, the events could have occurred in a span of perhaps 7 billion years before the Earth's formation (allowing a billion or so for the accumulation of necessary elements via Stellar Nucleosynthesis). On the other hand, if one considers that everything exists in 'Spacetime', one could view Alderaan (say) and Earth co-existing within it.
- On the gripping hand, perhaps this is all a variety of overthink. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 5.64.163.219 (talk) 10:11, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
- It definitely is. Star Wars can't even get basic physics right. They're not really concerned with being consistent with the world outside of it's own writing. --Jayron32 11:38, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
- Exactly. --User:Khajidha (talk) (contributions) 16:58, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
- If Earth does not exist, what is the Star Wars galaxy "far, far away" from? I suppose this means, "far away from you, Earth-bound spectator". It is meaningless to assert that some galaxy is "far away" from something non-existent. --Lambiam 16:44, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
- Anakin says "I'm the only human who can do it" about podracing so humans exist in Star Wars canon. I assume it's meant to be his species and include all characters who look human to us. Less known Disney canon also has a planet called Earth but it's in the Star Wars Galaxy and not indicated to be the origin of humans. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:17, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
- Using the argument above that they don't speak English, so the English we hear is a translation of their language, the word "human" is most likely the chosen translation of "a rather weak, bipedal creature with little body hair that has an odd tendency to lie, cheat, and steal as much as possible." 12.116.29.106 (talk) 12:38, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
- That's pretty spot on about the meaning of "human" in SW. See https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Human . --User:Khajidha (talk) (contributions) 13:50, 8 November 2022 (UTC)