I messed up on the OHW USA page
Hey, I think I did something wrong on the One-Hit Wonders in the United States page. Way down at the bottom in the "sources" section, I added Wayne Jancik's 2008 book. (Yes, a physical book that I own) This was so I could create an sfnp out of the citations referencing the book. But when I tried to insert an sfnp for the first entry using the book, (Joan Weber) it came out wrong. It said that there was an error and mentioned "multiple targets". Next, when I hovered over "Jancik (2008)", my book citation came up. But then another issue came up. The entry is the very first entry in Wayne Jancik's book, and is on Page #2. But when I hover over "Jancik (2008)", everything was correct, except the page number was listed as Page #4. (This all happened as I was editing in the source editor and checked the right side (visual) after making the change. So I never officially made the change.) I read the "Template:sfn" page that Wikipedia has, and I am 95% sure that I did everything right. But something is just not working! I need help! Ya Boy Alex! (talk) 06:04, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- I'm seeing the proper page number 2 for Joan Weber and page number 4 for the next entry, the DeJohn Sisters. Even though there wasn't a problem I could see, I breezed through the refs, trimming the unnecessary "page #" text. Binksternet (talk) 16:17, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- Thank You! :D Ya Boy Alex! (talk) 19:51, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- Also, I just remade the mistake and published it on the page to show you what happened. Ya Boy Alex! (talk) 20:20, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- Okay, I see the problem now. I think it will correct itself after you change every instance of Jancik 2008 article citations to the sfnp version, and after you put a full Jancik 2008 cite in the reference section by itself, without a page number. That single reference will be the one target which all the sfnp cites will be pointing to. Binksternet (talk) 21:15, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- Thank You! I will try that! Ya Boy Alex! (talk) 23:22, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- Well, the issue is all fixed now! By the time I got finished doing what I had been working on for the day, this guy by the name of Wham2001 had fixed it all up! So I thanked him. :) Ya Boy Alex! (talk) 23:35, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- Okay, I see the problem now. I think it will correct itself after you change every instance of Jancik 2008 article citations to the sfnp version, and after you put a full Jancik 2008 cite in the reference section by itself, without a page number. That single reference will be the one target which all the sfnp cites will be pointing to. Binksternet (talk) 21:15, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
Ancient astronauts
Why did you revert my edit and give me a edit war warning? Reverting the edit didn't help anybody reach a consensus and arguably just contributed to the war even more. — THORNFIELD HALL (Talk) 03:52, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
- Now is the time for you to argue your case at Talk:Ancient astronauts. Start a new topic and support your argument with sources. Binksternet (talk) 03:59, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
- And if nobody responds then what? I can reimpose the edit? — THORNFIELD HALL (Talk) 04:02, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
- People will respond. Your removal of text cited by three sources is a problem unless you show critical problems with interpretation of all of those sources. Binksternet (talk) 04:06, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
- And if nobody responds then what? I can reimpose the edit? — THORNFIELD HALL (Talk) 04:02, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
We have a genre warrior
Hi Bink. Just a heads-up. A user that both you and I have warned has ignored the warnings and is continuing to make unsourced genre additions to album and song pages (usually "dance-punk").—The Keymaster (talk) 06:56, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
- That new song is on my watchlist now. Binksternet (talk) 14:37, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
The editor that was making ungrammatical and confusing edits at "Theoretical key" has mucked it up further and changed its name. I'm fine with regular old edit reversions etc., but I don't know how to go about undoing this mess. Thought you might be able to help sort it out. Thanks. Special-T (talk) 13:46, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
- "Regular old" edit reversion is the quickest solution. And I moved the title back to its former more concise version. Binksternet (talk) 14:36, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
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Why are you revering ALL edits?
Hello,
I was wondering out of curiosity why you are revering ALL of my edits of the category "American people of English descent"? There are sources provided in many of the articles (though I accept not all) that give information about their English ancestry. Why has it became a controversy with the adding of the tag? Is there something wrong with being of English descent? Most of the colonists and their descendants WERE of English or other British descent at the time. HockeyFanNHL (talk) 04:12, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
- Because you are violating WP:CATDEF. That's why.
- I'm of English descent, so that's not it. Binksternet (talk) 04:13, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
- I'd like to address this question. You said:
Most of the colonists and their descendants WERE of English or other British descent at the time.
You are quite correct. Because "most" were of such descent, saying so doesn't help wikipedians define or compare to others of their time. We utilize categories in order to help define the reasons the subject is notable. For example, if we could prove a subject always wore boots, saying so in a category would not help us define the subject one iota. I have blocked User:HockeyFanNHL until they accept this as the way we categorize on English Wikipedia. BusterD (talk) 04:32, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
- I'd like to address this question. You said:
Talk
I wnat to discuss the inaccuracy of the genre for nevermind post punk I find the source to be unreliable as the songs don’t have a single post punk sound at all Thecure8985 (talk) 02:48, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
- Doesn't matter what we think it sounds like. Robert Christgau said it was postpunk. Wikipedia goes by what the published sources say. Binksternet (talk) 03:46, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
Revisions to the category Halloween songs
The revisions you deleted are widely considered Halloween songs by the categories description: "The following are songs which deal directly with Halloween, or deal with related themes and have appeared on a widely released Halloween compilation album."
I could easily find sources to reference this. Djaymiller (talk) 06:28, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
- WP:CATDEF is what you should be looking at, not the text of Category:Halloween songs which is not a guideline or policy. The songs are only going to get the "Halloween song" category if you can show that the category is definitive to the topic, that observers commonly and consistently remark about how this is a Halloween song. Binksternet (talk) 06:34, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
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Awesome thread title on ANI
"Obsession with Jason Momoa"? Corp smell-factories would KILL to sell that fragrance. (Heck, my significant other would kill for me to wear such a fragrance.) BusterD (talk) 04:03, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
- LOL. I knew the thread title was asking for colorful comments. Binksternet (talk) 04:04, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
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Pandemic vs lockdowns
Hi Binksternet,
I saw your comment on my edit on My Chemical Romance. I personally disagree with your reversion, however I do not plan on reverting it back nor making any similar edits in the future because you are a much more experienced editor than I and mainly because most active editors on wikipedia seem to agree with you.
So you can maybe just convince me, I'm curious if you can explain your reasoning to me.
When I said that MCR cancelled their tour because of lockdowns, you responded with "the pandemic is the root cause", you seem, therefore, to agree with my statement at one level, but believe that it's more accurate to give the 'root cause'.
This reasoning seems troubling to me. For instance, when we talk about the devastation in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, we don't say it was because of Pearl Harbor, we say it was because of the dropping of the atom bomb, even though the attack on pearl harbor was the 'root cause'. I think my edit made the page more accurate. There were things done in Sweden that would not have happened in the US because of differences in lockdown, when they both had the same pandemic. Attributing something to the pandemic and not the lockdown I think is obfuscation.
Please let me know where you think my reasoning is spurious. SonsyEpicMap (talk) 05:25, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
- What I got from your change was COVID denial. Lockdown happened but the virus didn't. Binksternet (talk) 06:01, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
- Oh, that's not what I meant at all. Maybe I should've been more specific in the comment, I just wanted to improve accuracy. SonsyEpicMap (talk) 06:25, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
- Do you still have a problem with the edit? SonsyEpicMap (talk) 22:33, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, I still have a problem with it. You tried to move Impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on education to a lockdown name, and you tried to move Impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on domestic violence to a lockdown name. Neither one of those moves survived community input. I don't think the community is as ready as you are to blame lockdowns rather than the pandemic. Binksternet (talk) 23:40, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
- Ok, thanks for the explanation. SonsyEpicMap (talk) 06:07, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, I still have a problem with it. You tried to move Impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on education to a lockdown name, and you tried to move Impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on domestic violence to a lockdown name. Neither one of those moves survived community input. I don't think the community is as ready as you are to blame lockdowns rather than the pandemic. Binksternet (talk) 23:40, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
The Weeknd
Hi. I noticed you've reverted my edit on The Weeknd for poor writing, so I wanted to ask you if this one was moreso appropriate: "He is credited as a major figure for the progression of R&B in the 2010s, also being regarded as a prominent artist in contemporary pop music". If it's not I would please ask you to tell me what other parts should I fix. Thank you DollysOnMyMind (talk) 17:33, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
- I'd say keep the falsetto bit, per WP:LEAD. Binksternet (talk) 17:35, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
- I understand your point, but I think that the falsetto bit should be removed. It is nowhere to be found on the LA Times source provided for it. I don't know if it comes from that other Medium source because I'm not even going to read that, it's an amateur publication that I'm surprised it made the lead of an important article like this. DollysOnMyMind (talk) 18:29, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
- More sources are available: Insider, USA Today, The Washington Post, Vox, Hollywood, and Rolling Stone. It's a thing. Let's not bury it. Binksternet (talk) 19:17, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
- I understand your point, but I think that the falsetto bit should be removed. It is nowhere to be found on the LA Times source provided for it. I don't know if it comes from that other Medium source because I'm not even going to read that, it's an amateur publication that I'm surprised it made the lead of an important article like this. DollysOnMyMind (talk) 18:29, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
Ludichrist/Scatterbrain
Stop removing Scatterbrain in the spinoff section of Ludichrist's infobox and removing Ludichrist in the spinoff section of Scatterbrain's infobox. It's a fact that Scatterbrain was the name that Ludichrist went by in the 90s which DOES MEAN that Scatterbrain was a spinoff of Ludichrist. 66.74.136.178 (talk) 21:01, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
Subtle vandalism that went by unnoticed for nearly 10 years
Hi Binksternet,
On the Great White page, I have uncovered and fixed up an old instance of reference link hijacking / vandalism dating all the way back from 2014: diff.
This is just crazy to me, how this vandalism went by, sight unseen, by hundreds of other editors, for over 9.5 years straight.
My suspicions first arose when I saw a citation titled "Great White Shark Attacks On Humans Caught" in the references list. I was like, how could a video about shark attacks be used as a reference in an encyclopaedia article about a rock band? So I started digging through the page's history, for clues. And that's when I discovered the two instances of vandalism the two references went through, from Feb and May 2014. The moment I discovered the original references it all started making sense to me, all of a sudden. Ahh, the official statement on the website definitely lines up perfectly with what's written on the article.
I just wanted to know your thoughts on this if you have any, since music articles are a big focus for you, and this is the first time I've ever seen vandalism linger on a popular Wikipedia page for nearly an entire decade. — AP 499D25 (talk) 08:21, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
- Wow, I hate it. Good work ferreting it out. That kind of stuff creeps in far too often, because we let anyone edit but there's never enough fact-checking and oversight. There will always be a small percentage of bad actors coming here to push their agenda. Binksternet (talk) 15:54, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
User:Andrewbf at SPI
Hi Binksternet,
I had a look at the latest instances of IP sockpuppetry from the user that we suspect to be Andrewbf, and found that a good majority of them actually come from this IPv4 /16 range, 187.147.0.0/16. Since the last ANI report made on this was not successful and convincing in getting admins to take action, I have created an SPI report for the 187.147.0.0/16 range:
Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Andrewbf
I have provided as much evidence as I could, based on comparisons to previous blocks, usual latest habits, and subject interests. If you have anything to add to the report, that would be great too, since you seem to know a lot about this long-term genre-warring abuser. — AP 499D25 (talk) 03:42, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for the note. I'll compose an update for the record. Binksternet (talk) 05:14, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Hi @Binksternet: & @AP 499D25:, I recently saw these two massive edits from anonymous IP from 189.174.22.63 (talk) Merida Yucatan Mexico, Special:Diff/1192790641 The Miracle of Love & Special:Diff/1192790106 Walking on Broken Glass, that might be of interest, which I had reverse it back (hopefully if i'm not wrong) --- Cat12zu3 (talk) 14:39, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
- You got it exactly. That's Andrewbf in action. Binksternet (talk) 15:48, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
- The range behind that IP appears to be a /19 to me: 189.174.0.0/19, I'll keep an eye on it and if disruption continues, I may file a report at the SPI above again. — AP 499D25 (talk) 23:27, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
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Nightmare band
I am sorry can you help me on still putting the band nightmare under gothic rock as the genres for the band under multiple genres have been labeled as gothic rock and it serves a right to be under a main genre for the band 2600:381:CBA0:28CA:F0B3:53D9:4EEA:5E9F (talk) 08:21, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
- I already added gothic rock per AllMusic. User:Carlinal took it away.[1]
- You have been using your registered username User:Thecure8985 to change music genres based on the wrong things. Per WP:EXPLICITGENRE, the genre must be named explicitly in WP:Reliable sources. Per WP:V, the band's genre should come from sources talking about the band's genre, not from sources talking about album or song genres. Your edit summaries tell me you have been judging the genres yourself in some cases: "because the song literally has disco and dance rock sounds". You need to stick to the sources. Binksternet (talk) 14:25, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
riot grrrl edits Dec 6
Disclaimer: I am a member of the band Lucid Nation.
Regarding removal of Nomy Lamm and Lucid Nation from riot grrrl wiki article due to lack of citations in a particular section.
For Nomy Lamm: https://www.theolympian.com/entertainment/music-news-reviews/article243592937.html
https://www.jstor.org/stable/26891193 The Riot Grrrl Collection
For Lucid Nation: https://www.songfacts.com/blog/interviews/tamra-lucid
https://www.rookiemag.com/2011/11/girl-germs/
https://www.enmu.edu/about/news-and-events/enmu-news/general-news/2563-starring-in-her-own-life-get-to-know-dr-chelsea-starr (see her reference to having: "produced a single for Los Angeles Riot Grrrl punk band Lucid Nation" and her dissertation: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Chelsea-Starr/publication/305469453_Riot_Grrrl_dissertation/links/578fd98a08ae64311c0c78e2/Riot-Grrrl-dissertation.pdf
https://www.jstor.org/stable/3175311 "Riot Grrrl: Revolutions from Within"
Thank you for any assistance you can provide and happy new year! Theinfinite314 (talk) 18:52, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
- With this pair of removals I trimmed the Riot grrrl article down to just the stuff that was supported by cites. The band Lucid Nation was removed, but it had not been described in any detail with cited sources. Instead, Lucid Nation was just one band name in a list of bands that were supposedly associated with the movement. The unreferenced paragraph had been fact-tagged for three years before I removed it.
- Such a removal is in line with the guideline WP:INDISCRIMINATE. Wikipedia is supposed to tell the reader what is important about a topic, not what is peripheral or trivial.
- If someone wished to represent Nomy Lamm or Lucid Nation as important to the topic of riot grrrl, they would want to cite sources saying just that, especially uninvolved observers describing one as central or foundational. Binksternet (talk) 20:12, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
Music socks
Does any of Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Blink 183 Angels and Airwaves look familiar to you as a potentially older sock group? Besides the couple of naming cues (song and artist names predominantly), seems to focus on pop, country, and a side of classical music. Izno (talk) 21:09, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
- Whoa. That is a helluva sock farm.
- Nothing leaps out as familiar, but if I uncover something I'll ping ya. Binksternet (talk) 21:13, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
- Is there an IP establishing a location? Binksternet (talk) 21:16, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
- There was a sock puppeteer named User:Dylan Florida that combined names of musical artists in the same manner as Stabbing Westward Creed and Elton John Billy Joel. I bet the checkuser missed Dierks Bentley Joe Nichols who was also active at 1993 in music, and is probably a sock of Dylan Florida. Other Dylan Florida socks were Billy Ray Cyrus Keith Anderson and Tim McGraw Faith Hill. See Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Dylan Florida/Archive. Location for this sock farm was Australia, mostly Sydney and Brisbane with a little bit of Melbourne. Binksternet (talk) 21:28, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
Bias
Hello,
You left me a message about being biased on Atatürk.
It was not bias, the previous text was biased.
The Ottoman genocide on Armenians is broadly discussed on the page, but someone put in on the front page as of Atatürk had something to do with it. People who quickly read about Atatürk will think he was complicit in the genocide, thus throwing filth on his name.
If you read the rest of the article you will see he was not complicit, but not everyone reads it and the people who want to ruin his name know this tactic... that part does not have to be on his front page as it is not something about him.
In regards,
CptBearguy CptBearguy (talk) 17:55, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
- Kemal saw the Armenians as a direct challenge to Turkey's existence, and he fought to save Turkey by wiping them out. This is a major element of his life and career. Binksternet (talk) 20:37, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
- The Bloomsbury textbook The Armenian Genocide: The Essential Reference Guide (ISBN 9781610696883) says that Mustafa Kemal Ataturk was "the founder of the Republic of Turkey, and the consummator of the Armenian Genocide." You will find this on page 83. The editors of this textbook are saying that the Armenian Genocide was the brainchild of others, but Kemal carried out the action of genocide to make it happen. Binksternet (talk) 21:03, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
Knock Three Times
I was one of the backup singers on this song and several others when Dawn was a fledgling group. Toni WIne, the songwriter on Candida, was a close friend and a back up singer like me. Jay Siegel of the Tokens was singing too. ANd often refers to us as the Early Dawn, There are contracts through AFTRA documenting those sessions and I still get singer royalties for them through AFTRA AFM. On Dawn's first album, there are liner notes that credit the aforementioned. Rgrean (talk) 01:41, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- If someone was looking only at album liner notes, they would be frustrated. The original 1970 edition of Candida doesn't have any performer credits. It just says "Special thanks to Tony Orlando." Re-issue copies of that album from Razor & Tie have liner notes written by Hank Medress in September 1996 saying that the original performers were Tony Orlando, Telma Hopkins and Joyce Vincent. Of course he is skipping ahead in chronology, jumping over the complicated parts, even though he was the producer and would be expected to tell the whole story. Sad.
- On the other hand, books about the topic agree with you, listing the backing singers as Robin Grean, Toni Wine, Ellie Greenwich and Jay Siegel on vocals for the song "Candida", with lead singer Tony Orlando supported by Phil Margo on drums, making it almost a full Tokens date. The song "Knock Three Times" was Tony Orlando on lead, Robin Grean, Toni Wine and Jay Siegel on harmonies. This is laid down in Jay Warner's book, American Singing Groups: A History from 1940s to Today. Binksternet (talk) 03:32, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
Why didn't you block RockabillyRaccoon?
Sometime last year, a user called RockabillyRaccoon made some unsopported changes to the Rap rock template, and you never did anything about it. I tried to fix them, and you immediately reverted what I did! What gives? 2600:6C5A:417F:794E:C8FF:8BB3:7DF9:BBB4 (talk) 02:02, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- At the time, RR was not blocked. You made this combination of edits, adding punk rap and emo rap. As usual your additon was completely unsupported. RR's removal of your addition was correct. On June 20, you added a bunch more stuff to that template, and on June 21 your IP range Special:Contributions/2600:6C5A:417F:794E:0:0:0:0/64 was blocked for six months. The next month you were blocked as Special:Contributions/47.36.25.163. You definitely have a problematic record on Wikipedia relative to genre-warring. I will continue to remove unsupported stuff that you add. Binksternet (talk) 02:50, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- I was adding some genres, and since punk rock is definitely a subgenre of rock music, punk rap actually has basis in this template. (I guess I can kind of understand the removal of emo rap, though; I've heard some emo rap songs, and I heard no rock in them. However, I can't help wondering why emo rap is called that if it has no elements of emo.) 2600:6C5A:417F:794E:78FC:976E:4C43:DA65 (talk) 23:31, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- There ya go, trying to figure it out on your own. You should be citing books or experts on the web. Binksternet (talk) 00:49, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- You do realize that RockabillyRaccoon was a sockpuppet, right? Why are you trusting their edits? 2600:6C5A:417F:794E:78FC:976E:4C43:DA65 (talk) 01:03, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- RR is a real person with some faults and some strengths. Their edits were not 100% wrong. Binksternet (talk) 01:04, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- It still doesn't change the fact they they were a sockpuppet. On most sites, aren't edits by sockpuppets usually seen as untrustworthy? 2600:6C5A:417F:794E:17C:611C:1056:89CB (talk) 01:07, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
- RR is a real person with some faults and some strengths. Their edits were not 100% wrong. Binksternet (talk) 01:04, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- You do realize that RockabillyRaccoon was a sockpuppet, right? Why are you trusting their edits? 2600:6C5A:417F:794E:78FC:976E:4C43:DA65 (talk) 01:03, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- There ya go, trying to figure it out on your own. You should be citing books or experts on the web. Binksternet (talk) 00:49, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- I was adding some genres, and since punk rock is definitely a subgenre of rock music, punk rap actually has basis in this template. (I guess I can kind of understand the removal of emo rap, though; I've heard some emo rap songs, and I heard no rock in them. However, I can't help wondering why emo rap is called that if it has no elements of emo.) 2600:6C5A:417F:794E:78FC:976E:4C43:DA65 (talk) 23:31, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
Issue on Five's Got the Feelin' release date
I noticed that you undid my edit on Five's Got the Feelin page, I only corrected the release date with was the 8th June 1998, Yes it may have been released in Sweden on 2nd June 1998, But Five are not a swedish group, they are a British group so it should be the UK release date which is 8th June 1998, not 2nd June 1998. 82.19.40.217 (talk) 18:23, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- The first release is definitive no matter where it was released. Binksternet (talk) 18:38, 4 January 2024 (UTC)