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Categories for discussion (CfD) is the central venue for discussing specific proposals to delete, merge, rename or split categories and stub types in accordance with the guidelines for categorization, category naming and stub articles.
For detailed instructions about using CfD, see "How to use CfD" below. Briefly, nominations are handled through one of two processes:
- Speedy renaming and merging, for uncontroversial proposals that meet specified criteria—see "Speedy renaming and merging" below.
- Full discussion, for all other proposals. Discussions typically remain open for at least seven days and are closed once a rough consensus has formed or no objections to the nomination are raised.
Except in uncontroversial cases such as reverting vandalism, do not amend or depopulate a category once it has been nominated at CfD as this hampers other editors' efforts to evaluate a category and participate in the discussion.
When a category is renamed or merged with another category, in limited circumstances it may be helpful to leave an instance of the {{Category redirect|...}} template on the category's former page. See "Redirecting categories" below for more information.
Wikipedia:Move review can be used to contest the outcome of a CfD request that is limited in scope to renaming, as long as all steps are followed. If a discussion on the request closer's talk page does not resolve an issue, then a move review will evaluate the close of a CfD move discussion to determine whether or not the close was reasonable and consistent with the spirit and intent of common practice, policies, and guidelines. CfDs involving deletion should be reviewed at Wikipedia:Deletion review.
Scope
CfD is intended only for specific proposals to delete, merge, rename or split categories or stub types. For general discussion about how to improve the category system, use other appropriate venues such as Wikipedia talk:Categorization, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Categories, and any relevant WikiProjects' talk pages.
Current discussions
Discussions awaiting closure
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 March 17 (16 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 March 16 (9 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 March 14 (5 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 March 9 (1 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 March 7 (2 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 March 6 (3 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 February 25 (3 open)
See also the list of individual discussions awaiting closure here and the list of full open discussions awaiting closure here.
How to use CfD
Nomination procedure
Twinkle
You may use Twinkle to facilitate CfD nominations. To install Twinkle, go to Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets and check "Twinkle" in the "Browsing" section. Use the now-installed "XfD" (Start a deletion discussion) tab while viewing the page you want to nominate.
Twinkle only allows you to nominate a single category or stub template. For bundled nominations including multiple categories, or if you prefer not to use Twinkle, follow the manual steps below.
Manual nominations
I | Preliminary steps.
Before nominating a category:
In the following special cases:
For further information, see Wikipedia:Categorization and Wikipedia:Manual of Style. |
II | Edit the category.
Add one of the following templates at the beginning of the category page (not the talk page) of every category to be discussed. For nominations involving large numbers of categories, help adding these templates can be requested here.
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III | Create the CFD section.
Follow the instructions (visible in edit mode) to copy and paste one of the templates below. When inserting category names into these template's parameters, except the
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Stub types
I | Preliminary steps.
In general, a stub type consists of a stub template and a dedicated stub category. Before nominating a stub type for deletion, merging or renaming:
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II | Edit the template.
Add one of the following tags at the beginning of the template to be discussed.
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III | Create the CFD section.
Follow the instructions (visible in edit mode) and paste the following text (remember to update the default parameters):
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Notifying interested projects and editors
In addition to the steps listed above, you may choose to invite participation by editors who are likely to be informed about a nominated category. All such efforts must comply with Wikipedia's guideline against biased canvassing. In addition, to help make your messages about the CfD discussion clear, avoid Wikipedia-specific abbreviations, link to relevant policies or guidelines, and link to the discussion itself.
- Notifying related WikiProjects
WikiProjects consist of groups of editors who are interested in a particular subject. If a nominated category is within the scope of one or more WikiProjects, consider adding a brief, neutral note on their talk page(s) about the nomination. You may use {{subst:cfd notice|Category name|2023 March 25|CfD section name}} ~~~~
or write a personalized message.
Tagging the nominated category's talk page with a relevant WikiProject's banner will include the category in that WikiProject's Article Alerts if they subscribe to the system. For instance, tagging a nominated category with {{WikiProject Physics}} will add the discussion to Wikipedia:WikiProject Physics/Article alerts.
- Notifying substantial contributors to the category
While not required, it is generally considered courteous to notify the good-faith creator and main contributors of the category that you are nominating for discussion. To find the creator and main contributors, check the category's page history or talk page. You may use {{Cfd notice}}
to inform the category's creator and all other editors.
- Notifying other interested editors
It may be helpful to invite other subject-matter experts by posting a message on the talk page of the most closely related article, such as Protein family for Category:Protein families. You may use {{Cfdnotice}}
for this.
Closing procedure
After seven days, someone will close the discussion according to the consensus that formed or, if needed, relist it to allow more discussion. Editors closing discussions must follow the administrator instructions and, except in the case of a "keep" or "no consensus" outcome, implement the result or log it at the Working page to ensure it is implemented.
Redirecting categories
In general, an unpopulated category should be deleted (see speedy deletion criterion C1) because it is not useful for navigation and sorting. In limited circumstances, and because categories cannot be redirected using "hard" redirects (i.e. #REDIRECT[[''target'']]
), we use a form of "soft redirect" to solve the issue. You can "create" a category redirect by adding {{Category redirect|target}}
to the category page. Bots patrol these categories and move articles into the "redirect" targets.
In particular, category redirects are used at the former category name when we convert hyphens into en dashes (e.g. Category:Canada-Russia relations → Category:Canada–Russia relations). It is also helpful to set up category redirects from titles with plain letters (i.e. characters on a standard keyboard) where the category names include diacritics.
A list of redirected categories is available at Category:Wikipedia soft redirected categories.
Speedy renaming and merging
Speedy renaming or speedy merging of categories may be requested only if they meet a speedy criterion, for example WP:C2D (consistency with main article's name) or WP:C2C (consistency with established category tree names). Please see instructions below.
- Determine which speedy criterion applies
- Tag category page with
{{subst:cfr-speedy|New name}}
- List request along with speedy criteria reason under "Current requests" below on this page
Please note that a speedy request must state which of the narrowly defined criteria strictly applies. Hence, any other non-speedy criteria, even "common sense" or "obvious", may be suitable points, but only at a full discussion at WP:Categories for discussion.
Request may take 48 hours to process after listing if there are no objections. This delay allows other users to review the request to ensure that it meets the speedy criteria for speedy renaming or merging, and to raise objections to the proposed change.
Categories that qualify for speedy deletion (per Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion, e.g., "patent nonsense", "recreation") can be tagged with the regular speedy tags, such as {{db|reason}}
with no required delay. Empty categories can be deleted if they remain empty 7 days after tagging with {{db-empty}}. Renaming under C2E may also be processed instantly (at the discretion of an administrator) as it is a variation on G7.
To oppose a speedy request you must record your objection within 48 hours of the nomination. Do this by inserting immediately under the nomination:
- Oppose, (the reasons for your objection). ~~~~
You will not be able to do this by editing the page WP:Categories for discussion. Instead, you should edit the section WP:Categories for discussion#Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here or the page WP:Categories for discussion/Speedy#Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here (WP:CFDS). Be aware that in the course of any discussion, the nomination and its discussion may get moved further down the page purely for organizational convenience – you may need to search WP:CFDS to find the new location. Participate in any ongoing discussion, but unless you withdraw your opposition, a knowledgeable person may eventually bring forward the nomination and discussion to become a regular CFD discussion. At that stage you may add further comments, but your initial opposition will still be considered. However, if after seven days there has been no support for the request, and no response from the nominator, the request may be dropped from further consideration as a speedy.
Contested speedy requests become stale, and can be untagged and delisted after 7 days of inactivity. Optionally, if the discussion may be useful for future reference, it may be copied to the category talk page, with a section heading and {{moved discussion from|[[WP:CFDS]]|2=~~~~}}
. If the nominator wants to revive the process, this may be requested at WP:Categories for discussion (CfD) in accordance with its instructions.
If you belatedly notice and want to oppose a speedy move that has already been processed, contact one of the admins who process the Speedy page. If your objection seems valid, they may reverse the move, or start a full CFD discussion.
Speedy criteria
The category-specific criteria for speedy renaming, or merging are strictly limited to:
C2A: Typographic and spelling fixes
- Correction of spelling errors and capitalization fixes. Differences between British and American spelling (e.g. Harbours → Harbors) are not considered errors; however if the convention of the relevant category tree is to use one form over the other then a rename may be appropriate under C2C. If both spellings exist as otherwise-identical category names, they should be merged.
- Appropriate conversion of hyphens into en dashes or vice versa (e.g. Category:Canada-Russia relations → Category:Canada–Russia relations).
- Correction of obvious grammatical errors, such as a missing conjunction (e.g. Individual frogs toads → Individual frogs and toads). This includes pluralizing a noun in the name of a set category, but not when disagreement might reasonably be anticipated as to whether the category is a topic or set category.
C2B: Consistency with established Wikipedia naming conventions and practices
- Expanding abbreviated country names (e.g. U.S. → United States).
- Disambiguation fixes from an unqualified name (e.g. Category:Washington → Category:Washington (state) or Category:Washington, D.C.).
C2C: Consistency with established category tree names
Bringing a category into line with established naming conventions for that category tree, or into line with the various "x by y", "x of y", or "x in y" categorization conventions specified at Wikipedia:Category names
- This should be used only where there is no room for doubt that the category in question is being used for the standard purpose instead of being a potential subcategory.
- This criterion should be applied only when there is no ambiguity or doubt over the existence of a category naming convention. Such a convention must be well defined and must be overwhelmingly used within the tree. If this is not the case then the category in question must be brought forward to a full Cfd nomination.
- This criterion will not apply in cases where the category tree observes distinctions in local usage (e.g. Category:Transportation in the United States and Category:Transport in the United Kingdom).
C2D: Consistency with main article's name
- Renaming a topic category to match its eponymous page (e.g. Category:The Beatles and The Beatles).
- This applies only if the related page's current name (and by extension, the proposed name for the category) is:
- unambiguous (so it generally does not apply to proposals to remove a disambiguator from the category name, even when the main article is the primary topic of its name, i.e. it does not contain a disambiguator); and
- uncontroversial, either because of longstanding stability at that particular name, or because the page was just moved (i) after a page move discussion resulted in explicit consensus to rename, or (ii) unilaterally to reflect an official renaming which is verified by one or more citations (provided in the nomination). C2D does not apply if the result would be contrary to guidelines at WP:CATNAME, or there is any ongoing discussion about the name of the page or category, or there has been a recent discussion concerning any of the pages that resulted in a no consensus result, or it is controversial in some other way.
- This criterion may also be used to rename a set category in the same circumstances, where the set is defined by a renamed topic; e.g. players for a sports team, or places in a district.
- Before nominating a category to be renamed per WP:C2D, consider whether it makes more sense to move the article instead of the category.
C2E: Author request
- This criterion applies only if the author of a category requests or agrees to renaming within six months of creating the category.
- The criterion does not apply if other editors have populated or changed the category since it was created. "Other editors" includes bots that populated the category, but excludes an editor working with the author on the renaming.
C2F: One eponymous page
- This criterion applies if the category contains only an eponymous article, list, template or media file, provided that the category has not otherwise been emptied shortly before the nomination. The default outcome is an upmerge to the parent categories, where applicable. Nominations should use
{{subst:cfm-speedy}}
(speedy merger) linking to a suitable parent category, or to another appropriate category (e.g. one that is currently on the article).
Admin instructions
When handling the listings:
- Make sure that the listing meets one of the above criteria.
- With the exception of C2E, make sure that it was both listed and tagged at least 48 hours previously.
- Make sure that there is no opposition to the listing; if there is a discussion, check if the opposing user(s) ended up withdrawing their opposition.
If the listing meets these criteria, simply have the category renamed or merged – follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Administrator instructions, in the section "If the decision is to Rename, Merge, or Delete"; to list it for the bots, use the Speedy moves section.
Applying speedy criteria in full discussions
- A nomination to merge or rename, brought forward as a full CfD, may be speedily closed if the closing administrator is satisfied that:
- The nomination clearly falls within the scope of one of the criteria listed here, and
- No objections have been made within 48 hours of the initial nomination.
- If both these conditions are satisfied, the closure will be regarded as having been a result of a speedy nomination. If any objections have been raised then the CfD nomination will remain in place for the usual 7-day discussion period, to be decided in accordance with expressed consensus.
Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here
If the category and desired change do not match one of the criteria mentioned in C2, do not list it here. Instead, list it in the main CFD section.
If you are in any doubt as to whether it qualifies, do not list it here.
Use the following format on a new line at the beginning of the list:
* [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
(The four ~ will sign and datestamp the entry automatically.)
If the current name should be redirected rather than deleted, use:
* REDIRECT [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
To note that human action is required, e.g. updating a template that populates the category, use:
* NO BOTS [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
Remember to tag the category page with: {{subst:Cfr-speedy|New name}}
A request may be completed if it is more than 48 hours old; that is, if the time stamp shown is earlier than 05:04, 23 March 2023 (UTC). Currently, there are 87 open requests (. )
Current requests
Please add new requests at the top of the list, preferably with a link to the parent category (in case of C2C) or relevant article (in case of C2D).
- Category:LSU Tigers and Lady Tigers basketball to Category:LSU Tigers basketball – C2D: LSU Tigers men's basketball and LSU Tigers women's basketball, the "Lady Tigers" nickname has been retired. fuzzy510 (talk) 04:07, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- Category:H & L Records albums to Category:H&L Records albums – C2D: no spaces in the main article. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 01:12, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- Category:H & L Records artists to Category:H&L Records artists – C2D: no spaces in the main article StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 01:09, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Lists of awards received by Thailand actor to Category:Lists of awards received by Thai actor – C2A: Correction to adjective form Paul_012 (talk) 22:22, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
- Category:First Ladies of Slovenia to Category:First ladies of Slovenia – C2B per MOS:JOBTITLES. Woko Sapien (talk) 19:58, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
- Category:First Ladies of Somalia to Category:First ladies of Somalia
- Category:First Ladies of Somaliland to Category:First ladies of Somaliland
- Category:First Ladies of South Africa to Category:First ladies of South Africa
- Category:First Ladies of South Korea to Category:First ladies of South Korea
- Category:First Ladies of Suriname to Category:First ladies of Suriname
- Category:First Ladies of Syria to Category:First ladies of Syria
- Category:First Ladies of Tajikistan to Category:First ladies of Tajikistan
- Category:First Ladies of Tanzania to Category:First ladies of Tanzania
- Category:First Ladies of Trinidad and Tobago to Category:First ladies of Trinidad and Tobago
- Category:First Ladies of Tunisia to Category:First ladies of Tunisia
- Category:First Ladies of Turkey to Category:First ladies of Turkey
- Category:First Ladies of Turkmenistan to Category:First ladies of Turkmenistan
- Category:First Ladies of Uganda to Category:First ladies of Uganda
- Category:First Ladies of Ukraine to Category:First ladies of Ukraine
- Category:First Ladies of Uruguay to Category:First ladies of Uruguay
- Category:First Ladies of Uzbekistan to Category:First ladies of Uzbekistan
- Category:First Ladies of Venezuela to Category:First ladies of Venezuela
- Category:First Ladies of Yugoslavia to Category:First ladies of Yugoslavia
- Category:First Ladies of Zambia to Category:First ladies of Zambia
- Category:First Ladies of Zimbabwe to Category:First ladies of Zimbabwe
- Category:2022 Ivy League baseball season to Category:2022 NCAA Division I baseball season and Category:Ivy League baseball seasons – C2F. –Aidan721 (talk) 17:44, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
- Category:2019 Ivy League baseball season to Category:2019 NCAA Division I baseball season and Category:Ivy League baseball seasons – C2F. –Aidan721 (talk) 19:26, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Megamind to Category:Megamind (franchise) – C2D: Megamind (franchise) should be main topic. ★Trekker (talk) 16:47, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Spirit: Stallion of the Cimarron to Category:Spirit (franchise) – C2D: Spirit (franchise) article should be main topic. ★Trekker (talk) 16:46, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Culture of Al-Andalus to Category:Culture of al-Andalus, "al" not capitalized, C2C per this discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:55, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Literature of Al-Andalus to Category:Literature of al-Andalus
- Category:Geography of Al-Andalus to Category:Geography of al-Andalus
- Category:Oriental islands of Al-Andalus to Category:Oriental islands of al-Andalus
- Category:Subdivisions of Al-Andalus to Category:Subdivisions of al-Andalus
- Category:History of Al-Andalus to Category:History of al-Andalus
- Category:Centuries in Al-Andalus to Category:Centuries in al-Andalus
- Category:11th-century disestablishments in Al-Andalus to Category:11th-century disestablishments in al-Andalus
- Category:12th-century disestablishments in Al-Andalus to Category:12th-century disestablishments in al-Andalus
- Category:10th-century establishments in Al-Andalus to Category:10th-century establishments in al-Andalus
- Category:11th-century establishments in Al-Andalus to Category:11th-century establishments in al-Andalus
- Category:14th-century establishments in Al-Andalus to Category:14th-century establishments in al-Andalus
- Category:8th century in Al-Andalus to Category:8th century in al-Andalus
- Category:9th century in Al-Andalus to Category:9th century in al-Andalus
- Category:10th century in Al-Andalus to Category:10th century in al-Andalus
- Category:11th century in Al-Andalus to Category:11th century in al-Andalus
- Category:12th century in Al-Andalus to Category:12th century in al-Andalus
- Category:13th century in Al-Andalus to Category:13th century in al-Andalus
- Category:14th century in Al-Andalus to Category:14th century in al-Andalus
- Category:15th century in Al-Andalus to Category:15th century in al-Andalus
- Category:Military history of Al-Andalus to Category:Military history of al-Andalus
- Category:Treaties of Al-Andalus to Category:Treaties of al-Andalus
- Category:Religion in Al-Andalus to Category:Religion in al-Andalus
- Category:Christianity in Al-Andalus to Category:Christianity in al-Andalus
- Category:Jews and Judaism in Al-Andalus to Category:Jews and Judaism in al-Andalus
- Category:Shia Muslims of Al-Andalus to Category:Shia Muslims of al-Andalus
- Category:Science in Al-Andalus to Category:Science in al-Andalus
- Category:Scientific works of Al-Andalus to Category:Scientific works of al-Andalus
- Category:Slavery in Al-Andalus to Category:Slavery in al-Andalus
- Category:Hotel Transylvania songs to Category:Songs from Hotel Transylvania – C2C: per Category:Songs written for animated films. V27t [ T • C ] 22:11, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Restaurants in Phoenix to Category:Restaurants in Phoenix, Arizona – C2C: per Category:Phoenix, Arizona. V27t [ T • C ] 19:40, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Rappers from Austin to Category:Rappers from Austin, Texas – C2C: per Category:Austin, Texas. V27t [ T • C ] 19:21, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Qing dynasty Imperial Decrees to Category:Qing dynasty imperial decrees – C2A: Lowercase "Imperial Decrees" as it is not a proper noun WikiEditor50 (talk) 19:03, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
- Category:K2-3 system to Category:K2-3 – C2C: Except for the Solar System, all of the eponymous categories for planetary systems are named after the host star. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 05:25, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Discoveries using the Hubble Space Telescope to Category:Discoveries by the Hubble Space Telescope – C2C. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 03:58, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
- Category:2023 American Athletic Conference baseball season to Category:2023 NCAA Division I baseball season and Category:American Athletic Conference baseball seasons – C2F. –Aidan721 (talk) 18:57, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Early Modern history by continent to Category:Early modern history by continent – C2A: Main article is Early modern period WikiEditor50 (talk) 17:41, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Early Modern period by century to Category:Early modern period by century – C2A: Main article is Early modern period WikiEditor50 (talk) 17:40, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Jews and Judaism in Savannah to Category:Jews and Judaism in Savannah, Georgia – C2C: per Category:Savannah, Georgia / C2D: per Savannah, Georgia. V27t (talk) 17:31, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Commercial buildings in Savannah to Category:Commercial buildings in Savannah, Georgia – C2C: per Category:Savannah, Georgia / C2D: per Savannah, Georgia. V27t (talk) 13:39, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Buildings and structures in Savannah, Georgia by type to Category:Buildings and structures in Savannah, Georgia, by type – C2A: per MOS:GEOCOMMA. V27t (talk) 13:36, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
- Category:People from Savannah, Georgia by occupation to Category:People from Savannah, Georgia, by occupation – C2C: per Category:American people by city and occupation / C2A: per MOS:GEOCOMMA. V27t (talk) 13:27, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
- Category:People from Allentown, Pennsylvania by occupation to Category:People from Allentown, Pennsylvania, by occupation – C2C: per Category:American people by city and occupation / C2A: per MOS:GEOCOMMA. V27t (talk) 13:26, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Siloam to Category:Silwan – C2D. Gonnym (talk) 11:54, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
- Category:City of David to Category:City of David (archaeological site) – C2D: per City of David (archaeological site), City of David is a disambiguation page. Armbrust The Homunculus 09:43, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
- Category:NCAA Division II Baseball Tournament to Category:NCAA Division II baseball tournament – C2D per NCAA Division II baseball tournament. –Aidan721 (talk) 09:37, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
- Category:NCAA Division III Baseball Tournament to Category:NCAA Division III baseball tournament – C2D per NCAA Division III baseball tournament. –Aidan721 (talk) 09:38, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
- Category:People executed by the Kara Koyunlu to Category:Qara Qoyunlu
- Will process this one a bit later since first the target needs to be processed.--Ymblanter (talk) 08:41, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
- I'm assuming the target should rather be Category:People executed by the Qara Qoyunlu. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:01, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
- Will process this one a bit later since first the target needs to be processed.--Ymblanter (talk) 08:41, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
Opposed requests
- Category:Hamilton College (New York) alumni to Category:Hamilton College alumni – C2D: This main article for Hamilton College, not Hamilton College (New York) Wozal (talk) 22:31, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose per Hamilton College (disambiguation), and Category:Hamilton College (New York). Oculi (talk) 23:46, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
- Category:People under the Almoravid dynasty to Category:People from the Almoravid dynasty – C2C. Gonnym (talk) 17:02, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose the above 4. Almoravid dynasty is not a country, it is a ruling family. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:07, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
- Then Category:People under the Almoravid dynasty needs to be updated as 3/4 categories are for countries. Gonnym (talk) 11:55, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
- It is a category about a country but not named after a country. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:26, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
- Then Category:People under the Almoravid dynasty needs to be updated as 3/4 categories are for countries. Gonnym (talk) 11:55, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Ymblanter: by accident the three subcategories have been processed despite being opposed, could you revert that? Marcocapelle (talk) 09:40, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
- Sure, would you mind making a list what should be processed? Ymblanter (talk) 09:54, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Ymblanter: below is renaming them back. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:12, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
- Sure, would you mind making a list what should be processed? Ymblanter (talk) 09:54, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose the above 4. Almoravid dynasty is not a country, it is a ruling family. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:07, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
- Category:German Bohemian people to Category:Sudeten Germans – C2D, German Bohemian redirects to Sudeten Germans. Brandmeistertalk 12:32, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose Brandmeister, there are currently categories for Category:German Bohemian people from Bohemia, Category:Moravian-German people from Moravia and Category:People from Austrian Silesia, together with Category:Sudeten German people for people from the Czech lands, born between 28 October 1918 and 8 May 1945. The proposed change is inconsistent with the current structure. TSventon (talk) 14:16, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Flanders Campaign 1793–94 to Category:Flanders campaign – C2D: per Flanders campaign. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:23, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
- I don't think this is valid as a Speedy because of ambiguity with the various topics for Battle of Flanders. But it could be speedily renamed to Category:Flanders campaign (1792–1795) under C2B, following MOS:DATERANGE, and extending the range to match the dates stated in the article. – Fayenatic London 15:47, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you, that will do. The too narrow dating was my biggest concern. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:03, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose: The main article Flanders campaign was renamed yesterday to Low Countries theatre of the War of the First Coalition, after Marcocapelle and I reached an agreement on this title at Talk:Low Countries theatre of the War of the First Coalition#Name and periodisation (I had already written down several observations and objections in June 2022, but nobody responded to it until now). I agree with WP:C2D as an argument for speedy renaming the cat, but that means the resulting new name will now be Category:Low Countries theatre of the War of the First Coalition. Because this significantly changes and complicates the nature of the discussion, and Marcocapelle and I have already been discussing reorganising the category tree on the talk page (where I already wrote down a lot of proposals), I think it's best to stop this speedy nom and make it a regular CfR to discuss this properly. Cheers, Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 10:08, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
- I don't think this is valid as a Speedy because of ambiguity with the various topics for Battle of Flanders. But it could be speedily renamed to Category:Flanders campaign (1792–1795) under C2B, following MOS:DATERANGE, and extending the range to match the dates stated in the article. – Fayenatic London 15:47, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
On hold pending other discussion
- Category:The Irish Fusiliers of Canada (The Vancouver Regiment) officers to Category:Irish Fusiliers of Canada (The Vancouver Regiment) officers – C2B: WP:THE Labattblueboy (talk) 23:50, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
- Hold pending RM at Talk:Irish Fusiliers of Canada (The Vancouver Regiment) to also remove the middle "The". – Fayenatic London 13:42, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
Moved to full discussion
- Category:Montreal Impact U23 players to Category:CF Montréal U23 players – C2D: Parent article is CF Montréal U23. RedPatch (talk) 13:31, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
- The article was only recently renamed and without discussion. Oppose speedy until a reliable source is provided about the recent name change. Regards, Armbrust The Homunculus 04:39, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
- There's not going to be a reliable source, both because it's not a recent name change, and because the U23 club didn't independently change its name. Montreal Impact U23's parent club was Montreal Impact, which was rebranded two years ago as CF Montréal. The recent rename was just bringing the U23 club page into line with the proper branding. fuzzy510 (talk) 09:32, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
- I propose to override the objection under WP:IAR as this nomination would plainly succeed if it went to a full CFD. If there had been no separate article for the U23 team, then this rename would have gone ahead under C2D based on the main team article. – Fayenatic London 21:53, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Armbrust: do you agree that this is an exceptional case so that WP:IAR may be applied? Marcocapelle (talk) 09:36, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
- I propose to override the objection under WP:IAR as this nomination would plainly succeed if it went to a full CFD. If there had been no separate article for the U23 team, then this rename would have gone ahead under C2D based on the main team article. – Fayenatic London 21:53, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- There's not going to be a reliable source, both because it's not a recent name change, and because the U23 club didn't independently change its name. Montreal Impact U23's parent club was Montreal Impact, which was rebranded two years ago as CF Montréal. The recent rename was just bringing the U23 club page into line with the proper branding. fuzzy510 (talk) 09:32, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
- The article was only recently renamed and without discussion. Oppose speedy until a reliable source is provided about the recent name change. Regards, Armbrust The Homunculus 04:39, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
- Moved to full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:07, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Fauna of the Amazon to Category:Fauna of the Amazon basin – C2C per parent and sub-cats. I am not sure whether the Flora sibling should follow suit. @Couiros22 and Gonnym: I nominated this one following Biota which was just renamed, but I see you are still discussing the Birds subcat below. – Fayenatic London 21:39, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
- I didn't know myself what to do with this as the category lead says it's for both the river and the basin and I'm not sure they 100% overlap. But whatever is done for this should also be for the Flora. --Gonnym (talk) 21:53, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
- I don't think they always match, because flora categories follow World Geographical Scheme for Recording Plant Distributions. But Wikipedia:WikiProject_Plants/World_Geographical_Scheme_for_Recording_Plant_Distributions#Category:Flora_of_South_America does not have an Amazon-based region. Shall we take this hierarchy to a full CFD, from Biota down? – Fayenatic London 13:33, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
- the category should be renamed Fauna of the Amazon rainforest... the Amazon basin does not encompass all of the Amazon rainforest... therefore some species might be situated inside the Amazon rainforest but outside the Amazon basin --Couiros22 (talk) 16:29, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- I didn't know myself what to do with this as the category lead says it's for both the river and the basin and I'm not sure they 100% overlap. But whatever is done for this should also be for the Flora. --Gonnym (talk) 21:53, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Birds of the Amazon Basin to Category:Birds of Amazonia – more pertinent category ; some eastern parts of the Amazon rainforest (Amazonia) are located outside of the Amazon Basin Couiros22 (talk) 20:43, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
- What is Amazonia? Do you mean Amazon rainforest? Gonnym (talk) 12:18, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
- At the very least the title should be with lowercase "basin" per Amazon basin. Gonnym (talk) 12:27, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
- yes, the Amazon rainforest (synonym=Amazonia cf. article). alternatively we could just rename it as "Birds of the Amazon rainforest" --Couiros22 (talk) 18:07, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
- At the very least the title should be with lowercase "basin" per Amazon basin. Gonnym (talk) 12:27, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
- What is Amazonia? Do you mean Amazon rainforest? Gonnym (talk) 12:18, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
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