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March 7
File:ChefSP.jpg
- File:ChefSP.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Tiger white ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
A non-free infobox image already serves a similar purpose of illustrating the subject in question. Nineteen Ninety-Four guy (talk) 03:55, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
- Delete as per nom, there is already another better fair use image in the infobox, so this one is not needed. Joseph2302 (talk) 17:12, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
File:Melbourne ferry logo.png
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The result of the discussion was: speedy delete. CSD G7 Liz Read! Talk! 02:27, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
- File:Melbourne ferry logo.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by HoHo3143 ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Unused in mainspace, superseded by File:Melbourne ferry logo.svg. No apparent need to keep this as attribution to this file is not required. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 12:09, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
- Delete as there is no point in keeping it. HoHo3143 (talk) 09:51, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
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File:Lionel Soccoia during the match in 2018.jpg
- File:Lionel Soccoia during the match in 2018.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Susanowoo ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Clearly a screenshot, uploader's talk page has multiple file-deletion related tags. Doubtful own work. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 13:28, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
- Delete screenshot so not own work. If it is their own work, the user would need to use the WP:OTRS process to verify this. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:08, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
File:Nathan Bourdeau-Rochester Rhinos 2015 USL Regular Season Champion.jpeg
- File:Nathan Bourdeau-Rochester Rhinos 2015 USL Regular Season Champion.jpeg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by JustDoIt23 ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
"Screenshot" stated in exif, doubtful own work. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 14:03, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
- Delete screenshot so not own work. If it is their own work, the user would need to use the WP:OTRS process to verify this. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:08, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
File:Blue Origin NS-23 Failure.png
- File:Blue Origin NS-23 Failure.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Iamstillqw3rty ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Seems to be a screen grab from a YouTube video [1] (around the 1:21:49 mark). Source video does not indicate a free license. Ixfd64 (talk) 20:12, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
- Convert to fairuse I doubt it is the uploader's image, since the Texas site is fairly remote and private property, restricting access, so unlike Boca Chica, or Space Coast, no cameras would be nearby except authorized or official ones. Convert to fairuse indicating Blue Origin's video -- 65.92.244.151 (talk) 04:46, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
Recent nominations
March 8
File:Where-love-go-supremes-1964.ogg
- File:Where-love-go-supremes-1964.ogg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by FuriousFreddy ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Doubt that the sample is contextually significant to the whole song Where Did Our Love Go. In other words, I don't think deleting it would affect overall understanding of the song. Furthermore, the song title and the band's name already helps readers seek the full recording elsewhere, so the sample wouldn't be necessary by any means. George Ho (talk) 03:52, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
File:Slyfam-wantme2stay-1973.ogg
- File:Slyfam-wantme2stay-1973.ogg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by FuriousFreddy ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Sample unneeded to understand the whole song, i.e. more likely not contextually significant. Furthermore, song title and band name suffice to help readers seek the full recording elsewhere. George Ho (talk) 04:09, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
File:JHudson-AndIAmTellingYou-2006.ogg
- File:JHudson-AndIAmTellingYou-2006.ogg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by FuriousFreddy ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Currently used in And I Am Telling You I'm Not Going, Dreamgirls: Music from the Motion Picture, and Dreamgirls (film), if the sample has to be kept, then at least one article should be enough. Otherwise, the sample should be deleted by default if no one opposes. George Ho (talk) 04:32, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
File:2008 Indian Premier League.jpg
- File:2008 Indian Premier League.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Sanjida Tanaka ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
No evidence this is a logo specific to the 2008 season, as it doesn't have the year on it anywhere.. It looks therefore like just another generic logo of the IPL, which therefore violates WP:GETTY point 14 Joseph2302 (talk) 09:17, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
- Delete Per nom. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 20:53, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
File:Katrina Armstrong Columbia.png
- File:Katrina Armstrong Columbia.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Scidonymous ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Similar file found here. Permission needed. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 13:08, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
File:Dr. Vibhuti Bhushan Sharma.jpg
- File:Dr. Vibhuti Bhushan Sharma.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Kapilbharindwal ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Small, low-res, no metadata. Doubtful own work. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 13:26, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
File:Matt-Horth-Atlanta-Silverbacks.jpg
- File:Matt-Horth-Atlanta-Silverbacks.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Wilsonodk ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Small, low-res, no metadata, thumbnail-sized, doubtful own work. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 13:30, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
- What's doubtful about the ownership of the work? I took the picture on a cellphone in July 2011 after a Silverbacks home game. The image quality is poor due to the camera and light levels. wilson (talk) 18:26, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
File:Matt Riviera.jpg
- File:Matt Riviera.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Jasonecohen6 ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
3 uploads, all of different sizes, no metadata, low-res. Doubtful own work. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 13:32, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
File:Matt Riviera at Jerry Lawler Show.jpg
- File:Matt Riviera at Jerry Lawler Show.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Jasonecohen6 ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
3 uploads, all of different sizes, no metadata, low-res. Doubtful own work. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 13:32, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
File:Matt Riviera Weightlifting.jpg
- File:Matt Riviera Weightlifting.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Jasonecohen6 ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
3 uploads, all of different sizes, no metadata, low-res. Doubtful own work. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 13:32, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
File:حبیب خادمیان-1.jpg
- File:حبیب خادمیان-1.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by سیدحبیب ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Photo of photo, permission needed. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 14:04, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
- Delete, questionable licensing with no usage in the main space. Salavat (talk) 05:45, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
File:Defense of marriage amendment types US.svg.png
- File:Defense of marriage amendment types US.svg.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by YellowMonkey ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Orphaned file superseded by c:File:Constitutional bans on same-sex unions types US.svg. Jonteemil (talk) 15:38, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
File:IPI Infusion.png.jpg
- File:IPI Infusion.png.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Ipiblr ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Orphaned work, not an apparent usecase. Jonteemil (talk) 15:42, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
File:Loko pd 2010 11.svg.png
- File:Loko pd 2010 11.svg.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Jordanson ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Orphaned file, no apparent usecase. Jonteemil (talk) 15:45, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
File:Childrenofdivorce.JPG
- File:Childrenofdivorce.JPG (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Aaa89 ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
The 1927 film is public domain in the US now. Original version should be restored and exported to Commons. Abzeronow (talk) 16:40, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
File:CharlieDelRosarioBuilding.JPG
- File:CharlieDelRosarioBuilding.JPG (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Ace Mendiola ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
File from problematic user (see also c:Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Sports in the Philippines and File:PUP Lagoon 2000s.jpg). Given the files' varied resolutions, I suspect not all were taken by Ace Mendiola himself. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 17:24, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
- Delete, questionable licensing with no usage in the main space. Salavat (talk) 05:47, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
File:PUPFreedomPlaza.jpg
- File:PUPFreedomPlaza.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Ace Mendiola ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
File from problematic user (see also c:Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Sports in the Philippines, File:PUP Lagoon 2000s.jpg, and c:Commons:Deletion requests/Files found with Ace Mendiola). Given the files' varied resolutions, I suspect not all were taken by Ace Mendiola himself. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 17:25, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
- Delete, questionable licensing with no usage in the main space. Salavat (talk) 05:47, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
March 9
File:Gustebell.jpg
- File:Gustebell.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by MisterCake ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
1927 photographic print. Would be public domain in the US now. Original version should be restored and moved to Commons Abzeronow (talk) 16:45, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
March 10
File:Emmanuel College, University of Queensland Shield.png
- File:Emmanuel College, University of Queensland Shield.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Bilious ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
logo for a residential college at the University of Queensland, dubious own work claim. Unclear which year this was published/first used, so may still be copyrighted. Does not qualify for fair use as currently used. FASTILY 08:56, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
- Keep. Yes, it is similar to this logo (a larger version of which is on Commons currently). However, when it comes to heraldic symbols, it is perfectly OK under U.S. law to re-create a symbol based off of its text description alone. A text description of the shield that specifies that the southern cross spanning left-to-right across the top two quadrants with a blue background, a book in the bottom-left quadrant atop a red background, and a left-facing red lion salient atop a yellow background in the bottom right, could easily have led to this being an original creation based off of a text description. The file on Commons is more problematic (we can't copy implementations of text-based coats of arms; we can only re-create them ourselves from scratch), but I do think that it's reasonable to conclude that this specific heraldic shield is OK to host on EnWiki. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 01:04, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- And, for what it's worth, the uploader specified that this was a
Self Made redraw
, so this does appear to have been created legitimately. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 01:08, 11 March 2023 (UTC)- That doesn't address the fact that this could still be a derivative of non-free content. As I said above, we'll need to know the year this was published/first used. -FASTILY 04:03, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
- And, for what it's worth, the uploader specified that this was a
File:Universal Orlando Resort logo.svg
- File:Universal Orlando Resort logo.svg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by LooneyTraceYT ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Image is over the threshold for public domain and is now orphaned Elisfkc (talk) 17:21, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
- Delete, mislabelled non-free file with no obvious use in the article Universal Orlando. Salavat (talk) 06:25, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
File:AerospaceMuseumofCaliforniafrontsign.JPG
- File:AerospaceMuseumofCaliforniafrontsign.JPG (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Isaac Crumm ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
No freedom of panorama for 3D artworks in the United States. Copy on Commons was deleted. Only used in user space. Ixfd64 (talk) 19:27, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
- Comment. There is no FOP for 3D art in the USA (nor for 2D art), even if that art is in a public space. However, the museum was founded in 1982; there were still copyright formalities in effect in the United States at that time, such as publishing a copyright notice with the work. Do we have the date for when this sculpture was created? If not, we have to delete on a precautionary basis, but this could be kept if this was a sculpture created around the time of the museum's opening. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 00:47, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
File:WGEM-FM Sports Radio 105.1 logo.png
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted as F8 by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT⚡ 03:02, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- File:WGEM-FM Sports Radio 105.1 logo.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Wcquidditch ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
I'm pretty sure that this would be below the threshold of originality in the United States, so I'm bringing it here for discussion as to whether this needs to actually be labeled as non-free rather than as {{PD-textlogo}}. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 22:14, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
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File:WKU Public Radio 2023.webp
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted as F8 by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT⚡ 03:02, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- File:WKU Public Radio 2023.webp (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Matthewshill ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
This appears to be well below the threshold of originality in the United States, and I think that this could reasonably be labeled as a {{PD-textlogo}} and moved to Commons. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 22:16, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
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File:The New School for the Arts and Academics logo.png
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted as F8 by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT⚡ 03:02, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- File:The New School for the Arts and Academics logo.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Dinoroki ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
This looks like a {{PD-textlogo}} to me that could be moved to Commons as such, though it was uploaded as non-free. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 22:33, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
- oh yeah, sorry about that. i wasn't sure whether to upload it as non-free or just the general upload from the rules i read. thanks for bringing it up Dinoroki (talk) 01:05, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
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File:Non-Stop Local ABC Fox Montana Logo 2022.png
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted as F8 by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT⚡ 03:02, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- File:Non-Stop Local ABC Fox Montana Logo 2022.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by SharpShark3 ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
This is a fairly simple logo. If it's below c:COM:TOO USA, then we don't need to label it as non-free, and I'd like to open a discussion around whether or not this is in the public domain. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 22:43, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
- Feel free to do that. Brainyshark03 23:41, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
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File:Nesam Pudhusu.jpg
- File:Nesam Pudhusu.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Kailash29792 ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
This is an extremely simple title card, compose of a simple background and simple text. I think this is below the threshold of originality in the United States, so I'd advocate for relabeling this as "public domain" rather than making a fair use claim. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 22:59, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
- I thought this rule applies only for monochromatic images (black text white images and vice versa). But here we have white text and dark blue background. Nevertheless, is it eligible for moving to Commons? And the image can be replaced with a high res version? Kailash29792 (talk) 02:04, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- Maybe we could use one of these? [2] [3] [4] — DaxServer (t · m · c) 09:29, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- It may depend on the country, though my understanding is that we generally treat simple text logos per the U.S. rules (color doesn't matter). — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 00:52, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
- We are not using any of the pics suggested by DaxServer since they are audio covers and the third link is simply the movie on Sun NXT (screenshoting is impossible since they are using advanced technology). My only question Red-tailed hawk is, can the file be moved to Commons? Kailash29792 (talk) 03:50, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
File:Innisfreenewlogo.png
- File:Innisfreenewlogo.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Waltzingmogumogupeach ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
This is an extremely simple textlogo. I think that we should label this {{PD-textlogo}}, as it's under the threshold of originality in the USA. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 23:01, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
File:Perigee Aerospace logo.svg
- File:Perigee Aerospace logo.svg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Great Brightstar ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
This appears to be below the threshold of originality in the United States, and I think that we should relabel this as {{PD-textlogo}} while keeping it local. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 23:03, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
File:Papaya logo.svg
- File:Papaya logo.svg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Vincent Leonidas ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
This simple logo appears to be below the threshold of originality in the United States, so I think that we should relabel it as {{PD-textlogo}} with instructions to keep this file local. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 23:04, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
File:Cork Caucus logo.gif
- File:Cork Caucus logo.gif (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by CT55555 ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
This appears to be a simple textlogo, meaning that it is well-under the threshold of originality in the United States. As such, while it may warrant being kept locally rather than on Commons due to difference in US and UK TOO, I do think that we should give it the {{PD-textlogo}} tag instead of a non-free tag. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 23:18, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
- I uploaded it and gave it that tag out of an abundance of caution (and habit) but I think you are correct and would find this agreeable. CT55555(talk) 23:22, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
File:The Daily Beast (logo).svg
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The result of the discussion was: Withdrawn. (non-admin closure) — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 05:13, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- File:The Daily Beast (logo).svg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Locke Cole ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
I believe that this is a very clear {{PD-textlogo}} that should be moved to Commons and deleted on EnWiki. There is a {{keep local}} tag on the page that was placed by the original uploader, so I am bringing this to FfD in order to gain consensus to move this photo to Commons and delete it on EnWiki. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 23:32, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Red-tailed hawk It's not necessary to delete the local copy, you're more than welcome to withdraw this and use ImportFile (Export to Commons) to make a copy for Commons. If you're not familiar with KeepLocal you should probably familiarize yourself with it before nominating files tagged as such. But in case it isn't clear, I Oppose deleting the local copy, nothing is stopping you from using the file on Commons. —Locke Cole • t • c 03:16, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- Can you explain the rationale for keeping it local? My understanding is that we generally move eligible things to Commons unless they're about to be a picture on the main page. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 03:41, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Red-tailed hawk Can you explain why it should be deleted? What is being prevented by keeping the file? —Locke Cole • t • c 04:10, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- What is prevented by keeping the file would be having updates be made in the centralized repository of Commons and then automatically coming down to EnWiki. Uploads would have to be duplicated if tweaks are made. I'm genuinely asking for help understanding the guidance here; I'm admittedly not super familiar with {{KeepLocal}}, so if you could help spell out the cases where using it is appropriate (or point me to a page that does), that would help me going forward when looking at these sorts of images. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 04:14, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Red-tailed hawk If genuine improvements are made, they can also be uploaded here. However, I generally find Commons to be more trouble than it's worth, and I've seen where files I uploaded (for example) as fair-use were moved to Commons, then some time later deleted, and I lost my work. I'd much rather have the files remain locally, as I do for all uploads to the English Wikipedia, so I can be notified of potential issues directly, and be more likely to address them. Nominating a file marked as KeepLocal as very hostile to the uploader, and if you'd like to read the history you can see Template talk:Keep local. —Locke Cole • t • c 04:31, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- I was unaware that this was something people could just put on a file for any (or no reason). However, as that appears to be the case, consider this nom withdrawn. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 05:13, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Red-tailed hawk If genuine improvements are made, they can also be uploaded here. However, I generally find Commons to be more trouble than it's worth, and I've seen where files I uploaded (for example) as fair-use were moved to Commons, then some time later deleted, and I lost my work. I'd much rather have the files remain locally, as I do for all uploads to the English Wikipedia, so I can be notified of potential issues directly, and be more likely to address them. Nominating a file marked as KeepLocal as very hostile to the uploader, and if you'd like to read the history you can see Template talk:Keep local. —Locke Cole • t • c 04:31, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- What is prevented by keeping the file would be having updates be made in the centralized repository of Commons and then automatically coming down to EnWiki. Uploads would have to be duplicated if tweaks are made. I'm genuinely asking for help understanding the guidance here; I'm admittedly not super familiar with {{KeepLocal}}, so if you could help spell out the cases where using it is appropriate (or point me to a page that does), that would help me going forward when looking at these sorts of images. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 04:14, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Red-tailed hawk Can you explain why it should be deleted? What is being prevented by keeping the file? —Locke Cole • t • c 04:10, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- Can you explain the rationale for keeping it local? My understanding is that we generally move eligible things to Commons unless they're about to be a picture on the main page. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 03:41, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
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March 11
File:Brian urlacher(3).jpg
- File:Brian urlacher(3).jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Patesal1 ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Small, low-res, no metadata. See also uploader's talk page. Doubtful own work. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 10:53, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
File:Garcia-jeff.jpg
- File:Garcia-jeff.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Patesal1 ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Small, low-res, no metadata. See also uploader's talk page. Doubtful own work. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 10:53, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
File:Catchball.jpg
- File:Catchball.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Mrshovels ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Small, low-res, thumbnail-sized, no metadata. Doubtful own work. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 10:57, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
File:Easyworldband.jpg
- File:Easyworldband.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Justsomeboy ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Small, low-res, thumbnail-sized, no metadata. Doubtful own work. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 11:07, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- Relicense to non-free promotional and add a fair use. Band dissolved in 2004 so a free alternative seems unlikely. Also, seems to have been taked from Fierce Panda Records. Salavat (talk) 03:27, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
File:Dynamic Praise.jpg
- File:Dynamic Praise.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Skottidoe14 ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Small, low-res, thumbnail-sized, no metadata. Doubtful own work. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 11:14, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
File:Frontaeroport.jpg
- File:Frontaeroport.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Ksn15 ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Small, low-res, no metadata. See also Wikipedia:Files_for_deletion/2011_June_19#File:Picture6-1-.jpg --Minorax«¦talk¦» 11:50, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
File:Ian-dempsey.jpg
- File:Ian-dempsey.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Griffithcollege ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Doubtful own work per uploader's talk page. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 12:05, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
File:Mike Castle Pic.jpg
- File:Mike Castle Pic.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Mikey Saltini ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Facebook metadata in EXIF. Permission needed. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 13:31, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
File:Windows XP Logo and Wordmark.png
- File:Windows XP Logo and Wordmark.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Joshuarshah ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Should be moved to Commons; not creative enough. The Microsoft-style logo image is probably below TOO; it's just a window with a fancy gradient. Also, even if this was above TOO, this would be replaceable with commons:File:Windows XP wordmark.svg. --Matr1x-101 {user page @ commons - talk - contribs} 21:44, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
March 12
File:Del-bank.jpg
- File:Del-bank.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Rjensen ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
This is an image of a 1933 newspaper article. The original publication included a copyright notice [5] and I'm not aware of any information indicating that the NYT failed to file for a copyright extension. — BillHPike (talk, contribs) 01:01, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
- This is a fair use of tiny fraction (far less than 1%) of the copyright newspaper issue. Rjensen (talk) 01:04, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
- It is also 100% of the article. See [6]. Regardless, we can't keep it without a fair use rationale. — BillHPike (talk, contribs) 01:52, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
- NY TIMES did NOT copyright each article separately--(at great expense for hundreds of articles on 145 pages in this issue) instead they cpd the single issue--it's comparable to using 1/100 of one page from a book--ie minimal. Rjensen (talk) 02:17, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
- the cost of registering a copyright in 1933 was $1.00 for a literary, musical or artistic work, (eg an entire book or newspaper) as specified by the Copyright Act of 1909. However, if the work was a motion picture, the cost would have been $10.00, and if it was a group of photographs or prints, the cost would have been $2.00. The NYTimes issue had 145 pages--and maybe thousands of separate articles. Likewise a movie cost $10 (for the whole film) and frame by frame it would cost $$$$$$. Rjensen (talk) 02:43, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
- NY TIMES did NOT copyright each article separately--(at great expense for hundreds of articles on 145 pages in this issue) instead they cpd the single issue--it's comparable to using 1/100 of one page from a book--ie minimal. Rjensen (talk) 02:17, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
- It is also 100% of the article. See [6]. Regardless, we can't keep it without a fair use rationale. — BillHPike (talk, contribs) 01:52, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
- This is a fair use of tiny fraction (far less than 1%) of the copyright newspaper issue. Rjensen (talk) 01:04, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
- Delete - no evidence has bene provided that this is public domain. Wikipedia has stricter use of copyrighted content than fair use in in that use of such content must meet all of the non-free content criteria. I do not see how this image as used would qualify for use as non-free content. -- Whpq (talk) 20:27, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
- Keep I think it meets all the criteria at WP:NFCCP -- which criteria does it fail?? Rjensen (talk) 21:13, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
- It fails WP:NFCC#8. The removal of the image does not detract from a reader's understanding of Emergency Banking Act. -- Whpq (talk) 21:33, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
- well no, in my opinion it "significantly increase readers' understanding of the article topic" --revealing how the major news media let people know that drastic changes to their finances were underway. -- that's what "big" news is like. Rjensen (talk) 00:34, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
- That purpose you propose here is not supported by any sourced verbiage in the article. And even if such commentary were in the article, it wouldn't need a nonfree image of a nespaper article forva reader to understand it. -- Whpq (talk) 05:04, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
- Here's the important text it illustrates at Emergency Banking Act: "Fears of other bank closures spread from state to state as people rushed to withdraw their deposits while they still could do so. Within weeks, all other states held their own bank holidays in an attempt to stem the bank runs, with Delaware becoming the 48th and last state to close its banks on March 4." Standard history textbooks to this day feature this event: with Delaware acting every bank in the US was closed and no state found a solution to the crisis. Indeed no one knew when they would see their $$$ again--all bank deposits were frozen. That is what powerful news looks like (compare this week in 2023 with Silicon Valley Bank closing and Washington acting immediately to rescue depositors. Rjensen (talk) 07:35, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
- That passage does not support "revealing how the major news media let people know that drastic changes to their finances were underway" (emphasis added). I would also suggest that if such text were in the article, it would be sufficient to use text alone to convey the concept and would not meet WP:NFCC#1. -- Whpq (talk) 14:28, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
- Here's the important text it illustrates at Emergency Banking Act: "Fears of other bank closures spread from state to state as people rushed to withdraw their deposits while they still could do so. Within weeks, all other states held their own bank holidays in an attempt to stem the bank runs, with Delaware becoming the 48th and last state to close its banks on March 4." Standard history textbooks to this day feature this event: with Delaware acting every bank in the US was closed and no state found a solution to the crisis. Indeed no one knew when they would see their $$$ again--all bank deposits were frozen. That is what powerful news looks like (compare this week in 2023 with Silicon Valley Bank closing and Washington acting immediately to rescue depositors. Rjensen (talk) 07:35, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
- That purpose you propose here is not supported by any sourced verbiage in the article. And even if such commentary were in the article, it wouldn't need a nonfree image of a nespaper article forva reader to understand it. -- Whpq (talk) 05:04, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
- well no, in my opinion it "significantly increase readers' understanding of the article topic" --revealing how the major news media let people know that drastic changes to their finances were underway. -- that's what "big" news is like. Rjensen (talk) 00:34, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
File:AFPAC III logo.png
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Magog the Ogre (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT⚡ 00:01, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- File:AFPAC III logo.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Marshan3q ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
A transparent version of the logo is now available at Commons. Once someone alters the color of the white text to black, the non-free version on Enwiki loses its purpose and becomes inferior quality. I also question if even with the background that this image even misses the threshold of originality. Crusader1096 (message) 04:43, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
- Keep and relicense to PD. The logo is text and simple shapes and is not eligible for copyright. The logo is in use. If it is replaced by a different file, then this logo can simply be proposed for deletion without need for an FFD. -- Whpq (talk) 20:14, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
- Well, that's sort of what I did, but @Magog the Ogre reverted that and said I should take it here. Crusader1096 (message) 04:40, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
- Sort of? No, you tagged it for F8 as the same file being on Commons but the images are different due to the transparency. The F8 was correctly declined. Whpq (talk) 05:00, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
- Well I was still directed towards here, so. Crusader1096 (message) 07:38, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
- Sort of? No, you tagged it for F8 as the same file being on Commons but the images are different due to the transparency. The F8 was correctly declined. Whpq (talk) 05:00, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
- Well, that's sort of what I did, but @Magog the Ogre reverted that and said I should take it here. Crusader1096 (message) 04:40, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
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File:Silent Spring Book-of-the-Month-Club edition.JPG
- File:Silent Spring Book-of-the-Month-Club edition.JPG (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Ragesoss ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
The file is the book cover of Silent Spring enclosed with an endorsement by William O. Douglas. However, the fact that Douglas has written an endorsement can be adequately described with text plus proper citation. In fact, a short quote from the endorsement would be more effective than a blurry fair use image. The file's omission would not be detrimental to readers' understanding. Apart from Douglas' endorsement, the file's existence duplicates File:SilentSpring.jpg. The file therefore violates WP:NFCC#8 and WP:NFCC#3a, and should be deleted. 廣九直通車 (talk) 05:01, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
File:Onisiforosroushias.jpg
- File:Onisiforosroushias.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Kkn77 ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
2 uploads, both of different sizes, low-res, no metadata. Doubtful own work. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 07:51, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
File:ORoushias.jpg
- File:ORoushias.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Kkn77 ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
2 uploads, both of different sizes, low-res, no metadata. Doubtful own work. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 07:51, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
File:RanjanaD.jpg
- File:RanjanaD.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Redhotpwan ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Seems to be a screencap of a film. Same as File:Ranjana deshmukh.jpg. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 08:00, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
File:RIVERSIDE AS YOU LIKE IT final flat.jpg
- File:RIVERSIDE AS YOU LIKE IT final flat.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Weimar03 ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Per c:COM US, this file is possibly copyrighted. Permission needed. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 08:05, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
- Delete, mislabelled non-free file with no obvious use in the article Riverside Shakespeare Company. Salavat (talk) 13:39, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
File:RIVERSIDE LOVES LABORS LOST poster SMALL.jpg
- File:RIVERSIDE LOVES LABORS LOST poster SMALL.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Weimar03 ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Per c:COM US, this file is possibly copyrighted. Permission needed. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 08:05, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
- Delete, mislabelled non-free file with no obvious use in the article Riverside Shakespeare Company. Salavat (talk) 13:40, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
File:RIVERSIDE THE MANDRAKE 6 SMALL with TITLE.jpg
- File:RIVERSIDE THE MANDRAKE 6 SMALL with TITLE.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Weimar03 ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Per c:COM US, this file is possibly copyrighted. Permission needed. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 08:07, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
File:RIVERSIDE THE MANDRAKE 6 SMALL.jpg
- File:RIVERSIDE THE MANDRAKE 6 SMALL.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Weimar03 ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Per c:COM US, this file is possibly copyrighted. Permission needed. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 08:07, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
File:RIVERSIDE THE MANDRAKE1 SMALL.jpg
- File:RIVERSIDE THE MANDRAKE1 SMALL.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Weimar03 ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Per c:COM US, this file is possibly copyrighted. Permission needed. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 08:07, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
File:Ricci-crisostomo.jpg
- File:Ricci-crisostomo.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Riclin1 ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Small, low-res, no metadata. Doubtful own work. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 08:14, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
File:RR2005.jpg
- File:RR2005.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Zjr58 ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Small, low-res, thumbnail-size, no metadata. Doubtful own work. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 08:19, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
File:Samuel Hazard Gillespie Jr 1970s.jpg
- File:Samuel Hazard Gillespie Jr 1970s.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Frantastic56 ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Photo of photo. Permission needed. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 08:22, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
File:Alon Bar Moshe Ivgy.jpg
- File:Alon Bar Moshe Ivgy.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Oakwilde ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Small, low-res, thumbnail-size, no metadata. All uploads (including ones on commons) are of varying sizes and only 1 of has full metadata. Doubtful own work. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 08:30, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
File:Moshe Ivgi as Aaron Cohen.jpg
- File:Moshe Ivgi as Aaron Cohen.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Oakwilde ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Small, low-res, thumbnail-size, no metadata. All uploads (including ones on commons) are of varying sizes and only 1 of has full metadata. Doubtful own work. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 08:31, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
File:5 AUD Front Queen.jpg
- File:5 AUD Front Queen.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by A Random Wombat ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Copyrighted per c:Commons:Copyright_rules_by_territory/Australia#Currency. Should be converted to fair use. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 08:57, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
- Delete (all four nominated). Fair use versions of these already exist, and I have replaced these with them on Banknotes of the Australian dollar. Reywas92Talk 13:31, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
- Delete, mislabelled non-free file with no obvious value. Redundant to File:2016 Australian five dollar note obverse.jpg. Salavat (talk) 13:44, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
File:5 AUD Back.jpg
- File:5 AUD Back.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by A Random Wombat ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Copyrighted per c:Commons:Copyright_rules_by_territory/Australia#Currency. Should be converted to fair use. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 08:57, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
- Delete, mislabelled non-free file with no obvious value. Redundant to File:2016 Australian five dollar note reverse.jpg. Salavat (talk) 13:44, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
File:100 AUD Front.jpg
- File:100 AUD Front.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by A Random Wombat ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Copyrighted per c:Commons:Copyright_rules_by_territory/Australia#Currency. Should be converted to fair use. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 09:23, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
- Delete, mislabelled non-free file with no obvious value. Redundant to File:Australian 100 dollar note Obverse Fourth Series.jpeg. Salavat (talk) 13:45, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
File:100 AUD Back.jpg
- File:100 AUD Back.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by A Random Wombat ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Copyrighted per c:Commons:Copyright_rules_by_territory/Australia#Currency. Should be converted to fair use. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 09:23, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
- Delete, mislabelled non-free file with no obvious value. Redundant to File:Australian 100 dollar note Reverse Fourth Series.jpg. Salavat (talk) 13:45, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
File:Dodgers60logo.jpg
- File:Dodgers60logo.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Spanneraol ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Derivative work of complex logo. No FOP in the US for this. Should be converted to SVG and fair use if needed. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 13:22, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
File:FLBB 2017.jpg
- File:FLBB 2017.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Zardball ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Facebook metadata in EXIF. Permission needed. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 13:41, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
File:Frankie Cutlass Platinum Plaque.jpg
- File:Frankie Cutlass Platinum Plaque.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Javielmalave ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
The poster Cutlass is holding probably pushes this over copyright threshold and should be considered to be a fair use file. However, Cutlass is living and File:Frankie_Cutlass_NY_State_Of_Mind.jpg, as such this should be delted. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 13:48, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
- Delete - the copyrighted poster forms a large portion of the image and is a significant element of the photo so de minimis does not apply. -- Whpq (talk) 20:24, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
File:Aixam logo.svg
- File:Aixam logo.svg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Benstown ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
@Minorax: says this file is above c:COM:TOO US and should be licensed as non-free on Wikipedia. I'd say it's not and hence can be freely licensed under {{PD-ineligible-USonly|France}}
on Wikipedia. Jonteemil (talk) 18:12, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
- Keep current licensing as PD for US only. I concur with Jonteemil. See for example this denied appeal to the US Copyright office for a bolt logo with 3D effects, but this is likely copyrighted in France with their doctrine of artistic intent. -- Whpq (talk) 20:22, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
File:2020 Portland Place brandishing incident.png
- File:2020 Portland Place brandishing incident.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Feoffer ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
A single (recent) incident in Portland and Westmoreland Places is already given undue prominence with the amount of text, as if it's the most important incident in the history of the location. Since the incident has its own article, free-use doesn't apply to Portland and Westmoreland Places: the image is superfluous, arbitrary, and replaceable with text alone. This image is also largely redundant to File:Mark and Patricia McCloskey.jpg, another non-free image that is used appropriately. --Animalparty! (talk) 21:06, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
March 13
2023 Philadelphia Mayoral Candidate Campaign Logos
- File:Jeff Brown Philadelphia Mayor Logo.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Phillypaboy123 ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:BrownForPhillylogo.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Phillypaboy123 ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:Derek Green Mayoral Logo.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Phillypaboy123 ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:Helen Gym Mayoral Logo.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Phillypaboy123 ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:Cherelle Parker Mayoral Logo.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Phillypaboy123 ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:MQS Mayor Logo.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Phillypaboy123 ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:Rebecca for Philadelphia.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Phillypaboy123 ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:Logo John Wood For Mayor.JPG (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by JSwift49 ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
This discussion is about the twelve campaign logos that were being used in 2023 Philadelphia mayoral election. I did boldly removed them from the article twice for the reasons given in Talk:2023 Philadelphia mayoral election#Logo use in candidates table and WP:MCQ#Why, but have re-added them to allow them to be discussed here. Four of these files (File:David Oh Mayor.png, File:James DeLeon for Mayor.png, File:Allan Domb Mayoral Logo.png and File:Bloom for Mayor Logo.png) have been uploaded to Commons, but their use in the article is being discussed here. The other nine were uploaded locally to English Wikipedia as non-free content; so, not only their use in the article, but also their copyright status is being discussed here.
Four of the non-free files (File:BrownForPhillylogo.png, File:Derek Green Mayoral Logo.png, File:Helen Gym Mayoral Logo.png, File:MQS Mayor Logo.png), seem too simple to be eligible for copyright protection per c:COM:TOO US since they're nothing but text and simple shapes; these most likely can be converted to {{PD-logo}} and tagged for a move to Commons.
The remaining five non-free ones (File:Jeff Brown Philadelphia Mayor Logo.png, File:Cherelle Parker Mayoral Logo.png, File:Rebecca for Philadelphia.png and File:Logo John Wood For Mayor.JPG) have more complex graphcial elements being used in them, in addition to text and simple shapes, and these might need to be treated as non-free. Two of the Commons files (File:James DeLeon for Mayor.png and File:David Oh Mayor.png) have similar graphical elements, but those two files seemed to have been boldly uploaded to Commons, and may actually not be OK for Commons.
For what it's worth, it would seem quite hard to justify the use of any non-free logos in the article per WP:NFTABLES, WP:NFLISTS, WP:NFC#CS per WP:NFCCP and WP:JUSTONE, even though non-free use rationales have been provided for each. So, if any of the non-free ones need to remain non-free, then they probably should be deleted if the consensus is that their non-free use fails any of the NFCCP.
The question about whether any PD licensed images should be used has to do with MOS:LOGO. There is very little if any encyclopedic value added to the article by these logos and although they're not subject to WP:NFCC and are OK to use from a copyright standpoint, their use is still more decorative than contextual, and would seem not be something that should be encouraged. -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:24, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
File:HMS Prince of Wales Bell Replica.jpg
- File:HMS Prince of Wales Bell Replica.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by SantosPhillipCarlo ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
WP:DECORATIVE non-free use in HMS Prince of Wales (53)#Replica bell for successor and HMS Prince of Wales (R09)#Replica bell from predecessor which fails WP:NFCC#1 and WP:NFCC#8. There's really nothing about this non-free image of two smiling men standing next to the replacement bell that the reader needs to see that can't be understand from the text content in each article where the file is being used. The content is both articles is pretty much the same with only some minor differences in wording; bascially, shipbuilder Cammell Laird was commissioned to recreate the original bell, did so, and then presented it to captain of the current incarnation of the ship. There's nothing any of that which requires seeing a non-free image, and omitting the image will not be detrimental to the reader's understanding of the article content in any way. Furthermore, the image itself is also not the subject of any sourced critical commentary per se which might also be seen at a possible justification for non-free use. So, there's no reason justification for this file's use in either article per WP:FREER or WP:NFC#CS. -- Marchjuly (talk) 07:04, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
File:Hood Bell Unveiling.jpg
- File:Hood Bell Unveiling.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by SantosPhillipCarlo ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
WP:DECORATIVE non-free use in HMS Hood#Expeditions to retrieve ship's bell which fails WP:NFCC#8. This photo itself isn't the subject of any sourced critical commentary in the relevant section, and the reader doesn't really need to see it to undderstand any of the article content about the expedition to retrieve the bell and the unveiling ceremony in which the Princess Royal revealed the recovered bell. Removing this file from the article would not be detrimental to the reader's understand of the relevant article content in any way per WP:NFC#CS. -- Marchjuly (talk) 07:15, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
File:Cover of The Book of Tempeh 2nd ed.jpg
- File:Cover of The Book of Tempeh 2nd ed.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Downtowngal ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
WP:DECORATIVE non-free use in William Shurtleff#The Book of TempehHMS Hood#Expeditions to retrieve ship's bell which fails WP:NFCC#8.This photo itself isn't the subject of any sourced critical commentary in the relevant section, and the reader doesn't really need to see it to undderstand any of the article content about the expedition to retrieve the bell and the unveiling ceremony in which the Princess Royal revealed the recovered bell.Removing this file from the article would not be detrimental to the reader's understand of the relevant article content in any way per WP:NFC#CS. Non-free book cover art is generally allowed to be used for primary identification purposes in stand-alone articles about the books it represents, but its use in other articles is generally only allowed when the cover art itself is the subject of sourced critical commentary as explained in WP:NFC#cite_note-3. There's no sourced critical commentary regarding this particular cover art in the relevant section where it's being used and the brief mention that the wife of the subject of the article, who also co-authored the book, provided technical illustrations for the pair's books in William Shurtleff#Early life, but that too doesn't require a non-free image to be seen to be understood by the reader per WP:NFC#CS. If more sourced critical commentary about the wife's illustrations and how they're representative of her work as an illustrator could be found or even if the wife is Wikipedia notable in her own right as an author/illustrator and a stand-alone article was created about her, then perhaps this file's non-free use could be justified; however, I don't see any justification for this file's non-free use given it's current use in this particular article.-- Marchjuly (talk) 07:33, 13 March 2023 (UTC); [Note: Post edited by Marchjuly based on the following due to a silly copy-paste error. Newly added comments are underlined, and removed comments are stricken out. -- 22:15, 13 March 2023 (UTC)]
- I am the uploader of the Cover of The Book of Tempeh. Marchjuly has not given a reason why this file should be removed. I uploaded it because it shows the illustration style of co-author Akiko Aoyagi. Her illustrations were integral to the value of the Books of Tempeh, Tofu, and Miso, at minimum. These illustrations documented the traditional methods for manufacturing and preparing these foods. Aoyaki has continued to be a coauthor of most if not all of the books published by the Soyfoods Center. The file shows her style of illustration. Downtowngal (talk) 21:30, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
- My sincere apologies to you Downtowngal for the confusion. I had made another nomination of a different file on this page and mistakenly copied and pasted the reasons for nominating that file for deletion into this one. I've fixed it now. Again, my apologies. -- Marchjuly (talk) 22:15, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
File:CharlesArthurSalvador.jpg
- File:CharlesArthurSalvador.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Comitialbulb561 ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
NFCC violation. Virtually all the photographs of Charles Bronson that exist were taken while he was in prison, his current status does not prevent the creation of a free image. That those able to take photographs of him have chosen not to release them on a free licence is not an end-run around NFCC policy. 84.69.13.253 (talk) 08:01, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
- I don't want this deleted just yet. I feel that it would be very difficult to reach anybody who might be able to donate us a photo of Bronson, and plus, many people who have photographed him over the years have been reporters, interviewers, and close friends or family members during conjugal visits.If you have the connections or know-how to get a free photo of Bronson, then feel free to delete the image. But if you don't then I recommend we leave the current image in place until a free image can be created, obtained, or is found. Comitialbulb561 (talk) 15:50, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
- Non-free images of still living persons aren't used by default simply because a free equivalent isn't currently available or because it might possibly be difficult to obtain. As long as a person is living, it's generally not considered unreasonable to expect that a free image can be created or found by someone at some point; in some cases, there may be extenuating circumstances as explained in item #1 of WP:NFC#UUI, but if Salvador (Bronson) is no longer incarcerated and is essentially walking around like any other free individual would, it's going to be hard to justify any non-free image of him. Even if he's still in prison but appearing in publicly accessible venues (e.g. courtrooms or their vicinity) or giving interviews (print publications, TV, film, etc.), then it could still be hard to justify the use of any non-free one. The article states that he's schedule to appear before a parole board in March 2023 (which is now); so, I guess his "current status" would still be prisoner, which could make obtaining a free equivalent quite difficult but not impossible depending upon the nature of his incarceration. This image was uploaded in December 2022, but the article was created back in 2003. In all the years between 2003 and 2022, the article has either been imageless or other images were uploaded and subsequently deleted for one reason or another. Over the years it appears a couple of files like File:Michael Gordon Peterson.png and File:Charles Salvador.jpeg actually were uploaded to Commons for use in the article, but subsequently deleted. Even though those two files weren't licensed as non-free and were deleted as copyvios, it also seems given Bronson's fame (books have been written about him and movies have been made about him, right?) that a non-free image would've been uploaded well prior to December 2022 if it considered OK to do. If, by chance, a non-free image was previously uploaded and subsequently deleted, then that would make it even harder to justify this non-free one. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:28, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
File:NeoGAF gaming discussion forum screenshot.png
- File:NeoGAF gaming discussion forum screenshot.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by SolarStarSpire ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
I don't believe this screenshot meets the NFCC. WP:SCREENSHOT suggests that non-free screenshots should be used to illustrate notable aspects or unique features of a given program or website, but this screenshot does not appear to do so, showing only the generic-looking forum structure of the site. The rationale is weak - the logo (which is on Commons by virtue of being under the WP:TOO) already serves to identify the property better than this screenshot, and simply illustrating the article is not a sufficient reason to keep non-free content. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 10:49, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
File:John Hall Wheelock.jpg
- File:John Hall Wheelock.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Kathrynklos ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
The Baltimore Sun did not renew copyrights according to https://onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu/webbin/cinfo/baltimoresun. Original version can be undeleted and copied to Commons. Abzeronow (talk) 19:45, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
File:Mo0bclones01.jpg
- File:Mo0bclones01.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Dairuka ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Unused screenshot of non-free software. Ixfd64 (talk) 22:14, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
March 14
File:Sophie Hawkins - As I Lay Me Down.jpg
- File:Sophie Hawkins - As I Lay Me Down.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Qwerty Binary ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
This image was only used for promotional purposes in the United States, and the standard artwork for most of the "As I Lay Me Down" single releases is already present on the song's article. One of the UK formats features a similar artwork, but it is still much different than this one. I believe deleting this image will not negatively affect the readers' understanding of this article, because since it was not distributed publically, very few people will recognize it. ResPM (T🔈🎵C) 01:51, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
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