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Need Help!
Hello, Dear MPGuy2824 Hope you are well.
I am here asking for help on creating articles of State Ministry on which a minister held on. Will it be good? Ministries like Health Department, Education Department and all like those. •••|Botu Yadav (talk) 08:07, 2 August 2022 (UTC)|•••
- Botu, as always, if you have enough sources to meet WP:GNG, then an article on a state ministry will pass review. Make sure that you have the correct name of the ministry (i.e. ministry or department) and take inspiration from the similar articles about ministries in other states. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 04:57, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
Thank You MPGuy2824. For helping, will do the same as you told. •••|Botu Yadav (talk) 07:12, 3 August 2022 (UTC)|•••
I want to create those like, Ministry of Parliamentary Affairs (Maharashtra), Ministry of Cultural Affairs (Maharashtra) and Ministry of Tourism (Maharashtra)
Can you also help me in editing those articles?
•••|Botu Yadav (talk) 07:15, 3 August 2022 (UTC)|•••
- Hi Botu, please start a draft and ping me from there. I'll help with a draft as much as i can. Then hopefully, you would have got the hang of it to do the rest yourself. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 07:21, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Botu Yadav I have created one combined article at List of ministers in the Government of Punjab, India Venkat TL (talk) 07:32, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
@Venkat TL Thanks to you. Will try to create the best one after checking your article also and others also.
Thanks for help
•••|Botu Yadav (talk) 07:35, 3 August 2022 (UTC)|•••
- @Botu Yadav The sourcing and referencing is more important in these kind of list articles. Venkat TL (talk) 07:36, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
@Venkat TL Ok, will remember this. ••• |Botu Yadav (talk) 07:38, 3 August 2022 (UTC)| •••
Haemolymph: Invisible Blood
Hello @MPGuy2824 I hope you're doing well. Their's a similiar article Haemolymph (film) already been reviewed. Now its been merge into Haemolymph: Invisible Blood. Can you please review and mark the article as page triage. I intend to work and expand the article. Thanks C1K98V (💬 ✒️ 📂) 04:41, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
NPP awards
One thought - the awards pages does not say the barnstars are for reviewing articles only. Since dozens of redirects can be reviewed in the time it takes to review one article - I assume that they are meant for articles only; note that there is a separate barnstar for redirect reviews. You may want to clarify that. I have asked that the reviewer activity report be updated to show redirect reviews separately, but don't know when that will happen. Thank's for your help. MB 15:14, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
- I think for the 4-year backlog we should award barnstars based on articles only. We can add a weightage for redirects also, for the 2022 awards. For the redirect barnstar (Redirect Ninja), i'll do some quarrying to see the top redirect reviewers and then create a proposal to make the award of that barnstar a bit more objective (e.g. >X redirect reviews). -MPGuy2824 (talk) 02:25, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
- Great. It looks like this is turning into a bit more that giving the awards - now we are in to restructuring them also. Glad you are willing to oversee all this. MB 02:41, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
- I just looked at your 2018 list. I think that includes redirects (I don't believe that I reviewed 1341 articles). But there is probably no easy way to separate out redirects. For now, we may have to just go by the total number of reviews of any kind. MB 04:30, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
- I've pinged InsertCleverPhraseHere to take a look at my quarry, since they were the ones who gave out the barnstars last time. Hopefully they have the time to look at it. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 04:37, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
- Hey, see User_talk:MusikAnimal_(WMF)#NPP_stats for a quarry to get just redirects or articles. MB 16:50, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
- I've pinged InsertCleverPhraseHere to take a look at my quarry, since they were the ones who gave out the barnstars last time. Hopefully they have the time to look at it. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 04:37, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
- I just looked at your 2018 list. I think that includes redirects (I don't believe that I reviewed 1341 articles). But there is probably no easy way to separate out redirects. For now, we may have to just go by the total number of reviews of any kind. MB 04:30, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
- Great. It looks like this is turning into a bit more that giving the awards - now we are in to restructuring them also. Glad you are willing to oversee all this. MB 02:41, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
A cheeseburger for you!
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Thank you for the Tag awards. I had almost forgotten about it. Venkat TL (talk) 18:47, 4 August 2022 (UTC) |
- How did you remember it? and who will give you the awards? --Venkat TL (talk) 18:48, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
- Dunno, it just struck me. I checked to see if someone had done it and nobody had. Don't worry. I gave myself the barnstars and then moved them out of my talk page. It seemed a bit weird to award them to myself, but i've seen other people do it when they are also giving out awards to other folk at the same time. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 02:01, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
New Page Patrol newsletter August 2022
Hello MPGuy2824,
- Backlog status
After the last newsletter (No.28, June 2022), the backlog declined another 1,000 to 13,000 in the last week of June. Then the July backlog drive began, during which 9,900 articles were reviewed and the backlog fell by 4,500 to just under 8,500 (these numbers illustrate how many new articles regularly flow into the queue). Thanks go to the coordinators Buidhe and Zippybonzo, as well as all the nearly 100 participants. Congratulations to Dr vulpes who led with 880 points. See this page for further details.
Unfortunately, most of the decline happened in the first half of the month, and the backlog has already risen to 9,600. Understandably, it seems many backlog drive participants are taking a break from reviewing and unfortunately, we are not even keeping up with the inflow let alone driving it lower. We need the other 600 reviewers to do more! Please try to do at least one a day.
- Coordination
- MB and Novem Linguae have taken on some of the coordination tasks. Please let them know if you are interested in helping out. MPGuy2824 will be handling recognition, and will be retroactively awarding the annual barnstars that have not been issued for a few years.
- Open letter to the WMF
- The Page Curation software needs urgent attention. There are dozens of bug fixes and enhancements that are stalled (listed at Suggested improvements). We have written a letter to be sent to the WMF and we encourage as many patrollers as possible to sign it here. We are also in negotiation with the Board of Trustees to press for assistance. Better software will make the active reviewers we have more productive.
- TIP - Reviewing by subject
- Reviewers who prefer to patrol new pages by their most familiar subjects can do so from the regularly updated sorted topic list.
- New reviewers
- The NPP School is being underused. The learning curve for NPP is quite steep, but a detailed and easy-to-read tutorial exists, and the Curation Tool's many features are fully described and illustrated on the updated page here.
- Reminders
- Consider staying informed on project issues by putting the project discussion page on your watchlist.
- If you have noticed a user with a good understanding of Wikipedia notability and deletion, suggest they help the effort by placing
{{subst:NPR invite}}
on their talk page. - If you are no longer very active on Wikipedia or you no longer wish to be part of the New Page Reviewer user group, please consider asking any admin to remove you from the list. This will enable NPP to have a better overview of its performance and what improvements need to be made to the process and its software.
- To opt-out of future mailings, please remove yourself here.
Delivered by: MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 21:24, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
Thanks
Thanks for jumping in as NPP barnstar coordinator. I appreciate you taking ownership of it and just handling it. For awhile I was giving barnstars to the top 3 Pending Changes Reviewers monthly. I like barnstars and I think it's friendly and motivating, so it's an important task :) –Novem Linguae (talk) 04:19, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
CoY UBX
Shouldn't the Category:Wikipedian new page patrollers strictly mean holders of the NPR right? Thoughts? Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 22:19, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
- I wondered about that, which is why i stopped after adding only 2 of the userboxes. On the other hand, that category already includes some other templates. Anyway, I'll think of a category name and move all these award userboxes there. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 01:53, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
Done I've moved those two and the other four to a new category, Category:Patrolling award templates, under Category:Wikipedian new page patrollers. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 07:25, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
For page Ghana Mangra
As you mentioned this page in not on census.gov.in. this page is available on this site but with different name GHANA MAGRA MahendraPrajapatKhejarla (talk) 05:40, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
https://censusindia.gov.in/census.website/data/population-finder MahendraPrajapatKhejarla (talk) 05:43, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
- Ah, i see: I'll remove the prod and move it to the right name. Are you able to get sources soon? If not, i can move this article to draft space where you can work on it without hurry. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:45, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
Yes but this is real name. On website it is wrong MahendraPrajapatKhejarla (talk) 06:49, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
- If you find some source to show that this is the real name, then we can go with it. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 06:56, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
Bhawi railway station
I know this is not a notable thing. But it is a geographical thing which is supposed to know and for record MahendraPrajapatKhejarla (talk) 03:57, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
- Maybe you can create a table in the railway line article for all the stations. That way you can add coords and important data to the table, without the need to create a non-notable article. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 03:58, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
The Sporting Age
Did you check the talk page? Four Newspaper.com sources are linked there. Scorpions13256 (talk) 07:44, 13 August 2022 (UTC)
- I'll check those refs. Please add them to the article too. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 08:03, 13 August 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks. Scorpions13256 (talk) 08:37, 13 August 2022 (UTC)
Help
Hey, MPGuy2824. Hope you are fine. i got a mail in which someone wants to work with me as a volunteer what should i reply them? — | | Poli Hunt (talk) 12:34, 14 August 2022 (UTC) | | —
- Hi Poli, This could be a paid editing job, but it might not be. What i've done previously with similar requests, is to say that i prefer communication to be on my wikipedia talk page, and not via off-wiki channels. Even paid editing is allowed on wikipedia, as long as you follow the rules laid out in WP:PAY. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 02:13, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
@MPGuy2824: I will never accept a paid editing, because i am just interested in Writing on Wiki, this isn't my job. I will not reply to that mail, this will more better than working with them. Thank You — | | Poli Hunt (talk) 08:34, 15 August 2022 (UTC) | | —
- MPGuy2824, Okay Sure.
Thank You — | | Poli Hunt (talk) 17:29, 15 August 2022 (UTC) | | —
Draft:List of television and radio stations in Baguio City
Why did you move it to draftspace? Impossible for List of television and radio stations in Iloilo City and List of television and radio stations in Zamboanga City. The other 2 mentioned articles have no sources and nominated for deletion. SeanJ 2007 (talk) 11:03, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
- @SeanJ 2007: The article was unreferenced and clearly not ready to be in wikipedia mainspace. Regarding the other links that you sent, please see WP:OTHERSTUFF. I suggest you work on adding reliable references to this article while it is in draft space and then submit it via the AFC process. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 11:10, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
- What about the other two that I mentioned? They were nominated for deletion but closed as keep. Should we just tag them as no sources for now? SeanJ 2007 (talk) 11:14, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
- I saw their AFD's, voters said there it meets WP:NLIST even though it has no sources and there's categories. It is also the same at Draft:List of television and radio stations in Baguio City. SeanJ 2007 (talk) 11:16, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
- With my preliminary reading of NLIST, i would disagree with that AfD. I've already tagged one as unreferenced. The other one has a single ref. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 11:20, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
- Is it okay if I report this to WP:ANI? I think there has been a mistake here. SeanJ 2007 (talk) 11:27, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
- With my preliminary reading of NLIST, i would disagree with that AfD. I've already tagged one as unreferenced. The other one has a single ref. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 11:20, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
- I saw their AFD's, voters said there it meets WP:NLIST even though it has no sources and there's categories. It is also the same at Draft:List of television and radio stations in Baguio City. SeanJ 2007 (talk) 11:16, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
- What about the other two that I mentioned? They were nominated for deletion but closed as keep. Should we just tag them as no sources for now? SeanJ 2007 (talk) 11:14, 16 August 2022 (UTC)