BLP PROD
Hello, Phil Bridger,
I understand that we have different attitudes towards Proposed deletion but please do not remove a BLP PROD tag without adding a reference to the page or it will just be re-tagged until one has been added. You reminded me of WP:BEFORE, but you could do more than remove a tag, you could also go back into previous versions of an article to find a proper reference yourself.
If there is no reliable source added over the course of a week to support one claim in the article, it will be deleted. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 05:18, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
- Which of the many articles that you incorrectly BLPPRODded are you taking about? Whichever it was do you sincerely believe that you are acting in the interests of an encyclopedia by such blackmail? It would be absolutely ridiculous for one editor to be able to remove sources and then for another to be able to delete the article on the grounds that it is unsourced. That would leave every single BLP on Wikipedia open to BLPPROD. Phil Bridger (talk) 08:45, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
- OK. I've found Bonifacio Castillo Cruz, which seems to be what you were talking about (but saying so would have saved me several minutes' detective work). That had a reference right when it was created, so I have simply done what you should have done rather than propose deletion and restored it. Wouldn't it be better if we all, especially administrators, acted in such a way rather than call for deletion of articles in which references have been removed? Don't you see that you are actively helping whoever it was who, whether misguided or a vandal, removed the reference? Phil Bridger (talk) 09:41, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
- And now I have seen Mohammad-Reza Gharaei Ashtiani. Please do something constructive with it, as I have to go and look after my grandchildren now. Phil Bridger (talk) 09:45, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
- I just realised that I worded that badly. I am more than happy to look after my grandchildren voluntarily, so there's no "have to" about it. Phil Bridger (talk) 21:41, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
Gobbeldy gook!
thanks for the laugh and glad it isn't just me who has no ability to comprehend some of this nonsense. Star Mississippi 18:05, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
ANI complaint
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Adamant1 (talk) 20:01, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
WP:PROD
Hello, Phil Bridger,
I understand that we have different attitudes towards Proposed deletion but please do not remove a BLP PROD tag without adding a reference to the page or it will just be re-tagged until one has been added. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BigContributor (talk • contribs) 21:46, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
- BigContributor, it's not a matter of anyone's attitude, but of policy, which is crystal-clear that a contested WP:PROD (not WP:BLPPROD) tag cannot be reinstated. Take the article to WP:AFD if you think it should be deleted. Phil Bridger (talk) 07:44, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
Xuzhou
Hello, If there were tens of thousands of kidnapped women sold to one area for forced marriage in just three years, according to official data, and this phenomenon is still ongoing with the latest uncovered crime attracting international attention, why that's not a fact worth mentioned in lead paragraph? — Preceding unsigned comment added by ShieldOfValour (talk • contribs) 14:44, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
- You need to read WP:DUE and WP:LEAD, the lead is not the right place for this. Canterbury Tail talk 14:46, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
The lead paragraph mentions history and culture, human-trafficking is part of that history and culture. This is a significant characteristic of this area. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ShieldOfValour (talk • contribs) 14:49, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
- If this is true (and I have seen no reason to think that it is not) then it is a major scandal, but not such a defining characteristic of a city of eight and a half million to appear in the first paragraph of the lead section. Phil Bridger (talk) 14:53, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
Then you certainly have no knowledge how widespread this is. Whole villages/towns in collusion from top down (governments, police force and hospitals) have a part in this crime. I know it sounds ridiculous but trust me, I wish you read Chinese and hear what others are uncovering on Youtube and Internet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ShieldOfValour (talk • contribs) 14:55, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
- Luckily Wikipedia is not written on the basis of what people write on Youtube and the Internet. Phil Bridger (talk) 14:58, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
What's wrong with Youtube from independent reporters who talk to local villagers and risk their freedom to investigate?
You need proof, have a read on the references (enlgish) I provided on that page and tell me it's not the character of that part of China. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ShieldOfValour (talk • contribs) 15:02, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
- User indeffed for many reasons. Canterbury Tail talk 15:26, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
Nomination of NominationName for deletion
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The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/NominationName until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.
162 etc. (talk) 16:28, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
Elaborate in Pilak
Can you please elaborate more on its Egyptian counterpart? I don't see its transliteration to 'pilak' in the article. --Likhasik (talk) 15:28, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
- Then you can add it to the article with one of the references found by this search. Phil Bridger (talk) 20:59, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
Banda Street
I requested for the speedy deletion for the article as it is a copyvio of the book Victor R Savage, Brenda S A Yeoh (2004), Toponymics - A Study of Singapore Street Names, Eastern University Press, ISBN 981-210-364-3. I have access to the e-copy of the book via the National Library of Singapore. As it is an offline access, I requested the speedy deletion without any URL. Editor Johnj1995 later included the URL in the template. --Justanothersgwikieditor (talk) 08:51, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
- In that case it seems like a valid copyright violation, so I will not remove the tag if you place it again. Phil Bridger (talk) 08:56, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
Stop spreading lies about me
- The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Phil, I would really appreciate if you would stop spreading lies about me. I haven't called anyone a fascist, I said a ban for me is pure fascism. That's something completely different! Cornelis Dopper (talk) 21:43, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
- No it isn't. Fuck off. Phil Bridger (talk) 21:47, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
- Hahaha, you had so much to say on my TP about being civil! Cornelis Dopper (talk) 22:10, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
- I disagree. It's quite different. People can support fascist things without being fascist. Mebigrouxboy (talk) 01:15, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
- Phil, just so that you are formally informed, that user has opened a thread about this at ANI.
Facepalm --Tryptofish (talk) 22:27, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
- The only one who deserves a facepalm here is you Tryptofish. Cornelis Dopper (talk) 22:32, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Olympics
Hello, Phil. I've begun a deletion sorting page for articles about the Olympics which are nominated at AfD. Hope you find it useful. No Great Shaker (talk) 16:37, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
Shiv_Sadan
For my own curiosity, why add a source but not contest the deletion? I'm working through very old Promo tags, so little insight could be helpful.Slywriter (talk) 21:54, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
- I found a source that confirmed who founded it, but I don't believe that that source is enough to show notability, and I'm not even sure of its reliability and independence. Phil Bridger (talk) 08:08, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
Comment on Ian Holliday AfD
I think you hit the nail on the head: there is an editor who is here not to build it but to watch it burn. Thanks. Jacona (talk) 21:51, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
Do not remove PROD from Bhuvan Bam
Article : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhuvan_Bam
I see, you have removed PROD tag from Bhuvan Bam article. The last time nomination for deletion is terminated by nominator itself, so a new nomination can be made for deletion. And i checked the article and i notice it full of promotional contents and the reliable source are not written by staff but it a public contribution. --Religiousmyth (talk) 06:53, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
- This article has been through two discussions at WP:AFD. That makes it ineligible for the WP:PROD procedure, as very clearly stated on that policy page. If you want it to be deleted then another WP:AFD discussion will be needed. Phil Bridger (talk) 06:57, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
- Discussion : Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bhuvan Bam
- I have only found this discussion for deletion and it also withdrawn by nominator without a proper conclusion. I agree with you, it require another WP:AFD discussion. So, please add the deletion tag and let have a fair discussion about the article. whether to keep or delete. Religiousmyth (talk) 07:04, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
- I will not create the deletion discussion, because I have not investigated whether this article needs deletion, and so have no view. You, as the one who thinks it should be deleted, need to do that. Phil Bridger (talk) 07:08, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
- Ok, but when i am creating PROD discussion, your removing my tag. let me add PROD tag again and do not undone it. Religiousmyth (talk) 05:41, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
- @Religiousmyth: If you want to create a discussion for deletion, go with the XFD procedure and not PROD. And give a rationale for the same while doing so rather than just stating guidelines and policies. ManaliJain (talk) 06:39, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
- ManaliJain, so you copied his statement and just pasted here. 223.177.168.145 (talk) 07:16, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
- @ManaliJain Got it :) Religiousmyth (talk) 10:19, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- @Religiousmyth: HI, You should nominate that article if you want to delete it rather than putting prod tag. You can read this to know, how to nominate that article WP:AFDHOWTO 223.177.168.145 (talk) 06:44, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks :) Religiousmyth (talk) 10:19, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- @Religiousmyth: If you want to create a discussion for deletion, go with the XFD procedure and not PROD. And give a rationale for the same while doing so rather than just stating guidelines and policies. ManaliJain (talk) 06:39, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
- Ok, but when i am creating PROD discussion, your removing my tag. let me add PROD tag again and do not undone it. Religiousmyth (talk) 05:41, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
- I will not create the deletion discussion, because I have not investigated whether this article needs deletion, and so have no view. You, as the one who thinks it should be deleted, need to do that. Phil Bridger (talk) 07:08, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
Eva Gronbach
@Phil Bridger: Are you planning to add more sources Eva Gronbach article? scope_creepTalk 19:14, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
- I was rather hoping that you might. Phil Bridger (talk) 19:51, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
With respect to one article
Hi editor
Why this article Rana Beni Madho has been classed as "stub"? despite having many ( if not all) decent references. When I click about this page on talk page of the article it still says "stub article". It would be very helpful if as senior editor you can guide here. Thanks and Best. RS6784 (talk) 08:34, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
- I'm afraid I can't really help you much, because I don't get involved in article ratings. It looks like more than a stub to me, but maybe you could get better advice at Wikipedia talk:Noticeboard for India-related topics or Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Biography. Phil Bridger (talk) 11:21, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
Sunday Pants
I don't know what happened with Sunday Pants. Usually Twinkle stops the prod process if it catches a prior AFD, but for some reason it didn't this time. Maybe because there wasn't an oldafd tag on the talk page? Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 18:55, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
RE: Your comment at ANI
Here is the latest update. If you take note of the edit history for that page, this anonymous IP editor has already violated 3RR. Haleth (talk) 13:34, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
RE: Kurdish Mastiff
Sadly, I feel I must inform you that this was not the first nationalist edit war over the name of a breed of dog. Canaan Dog has had the same problem. Save me a drink, will you? Sumanuil. 06:06, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
2017 Valparaiso earthquake
Could you please direct me to the papers you mentioned? Thanks, Dawnseeker2000 18:29, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
- [1], [2], [3] and many others. Phil Bridger (talk) 18:37, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
Would you consider becoming a New Page Reviewer?
Hi Phil Bridger, I've recently been looking for editors to invite to join the new page reviewing team, and after reviewing your editing history, I think you would be a good candidate. Reviewing/patrolling a page doesn't take much time but it requires a good understanding of Wikipedia policies and guidelines; the new page reviewing team needs help from experienced users like yourself. Would you please consider becoming a New Page Reviewer? Kindly read the tutorial before making your decision (if it looks daunting, don't worry, most pages are easy to review, and habits are quick to develop). If this looks like something that you can do, please consider joining us. If you choose to apply, you can drop an application over at WP:PERM/NPR. If you have questions, please feel free to drop a message on my talk page or at the reviewer's discussion board. Cheers, and hope to see you around, (t · c) buidhe 22:18, 2 June 2022 (UTC) |
Church-notability proposal
Greetings, Phil Bridger. To clarify my input in this AfD discussion, let me say that the subject did not indeed pass WP:GNG. Taking the opportunity of a church-related AfD, I suggested that we should perhaps revisit the failed proposal about the notibility of churches and other religious congregations. I believe it'd be useful. Take care. -The Gnome (talk) 20:20, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
Happy summer/winter
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Happy first day of summer (or winter) wherever you live. Interstellarity (talk) 22:13, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
Hi, just notifying you of this ANI thread connected to a discussion on the MoS talkpage. Boynamedsue (talk) 17:13, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
You're mistaken
Sorry, but "majority", which is the subject, is NOT singular when used with a collection of individuals; colleagues are individuals whereas WP editors would be a group. You shouldn't have reverted me, but it's not a biggy. Atsme 💬 📧 12:40, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
Notability of Andrew Carstairs-McCarthy?
You removed my prod of Andrew Carstairs-McCarthy. I will not take it to AfD because I think established professors are noteworthy. However, I do not think this guy actually meets any of the eight stated criteria at WP:PROF. He may have met one or more of the criteria at WP:NAUTHOR, but if so it's not clear to me and it's certainly not supported by any sources I can find. Therefore I do not understand your edit summary, which said "contest deletion - clearly passes both WP:PROF and WP:AUTHOR". Would you please explain your reasoning? I would like to be able to justify notability for other professors as the need arises. In particular, how can we find and include references to reliable sources that support your conclusion? (courtesy ping: user:Damerell). I'm willing to work with you and Damerell on this if there is something I can do. -Arch dude (talk) 14:52, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
- A search for academic papers written by other people about his work, such as this one finds a lot of reviews of his books, which count towards WP:PROF#C1 and WP:AUTHOR. Phil Bridger (talk) 15:30, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
A belated reply
I only just saw your very reasonable question here: Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Md._Shah_Newaz_Chowdhury. The article was in completely different shape when I voted and the lede suggested he was a student. I support the keep. CT55555 (talk) 23:10, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
Solimões Formation
@Phil Bridger Hello, I noticed you redirected the page to the Pebas Formation, but you didn't provide a source. According to many sources, they are different formations. Patachonica (talk) 14:55, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
- I didn't actually create the redirect, that was Andrew Dalby, but I contested speedy deletion of the redirect on the basis of sources such as this. I have no particular interest in geology, so I would suggest creating a separate article for this if the consensus (maybe at WikiProject Geology) is that most reliable sources regard this as a separate formation. I doubt that I will be taking part in any discussion. Phil Bridger (talk) 17:47, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
- I saw sources similar to the one that Phil Bridger links to, but I agree that other sources treat the two formations as distinct. This isn't the only case where geologists aren't consistent over time, or with one another, in the assigning of formation names. An article about the Solimões Formation would solve this problem.
- The Portuguese pt:Lista de unidades estratigráficas do Brasil doesn't help, because it doesn't list the Pebas Formation. Andrew Dalby 20:26, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
- Is it possible that this formation is, or was in the past, usually known in English as the Pebas Formation but in Portuguese as the Formação Solimões? Phil Bridger (talk) 19:56, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Andrew Dalby: Why did you make the redirect in the first place out of curiosity? Patachonica (talk) 21:19, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Patachonica: Having encountered the Pebas Formation in a news report, I was writing a brief Latin article about the Pebas Formation: sources for this appeared at that time to be few and recent. I came across sources that implied the two formations were in some way identical, and older sources that named the Solimões Formation only. I had the impression that a link would be helpful, given that we had no article about the Solimões Formation (which, if there really is some link or overlap between the two, would define it and thus would be more helpful still). Andrew Dalby 14:11, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
Draft:Aviation accidents and incidents in fiction
Per your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of aviation accidents and incidents in fiction, I thought you might like to see where things are going with Draft:Aviation accidents and incidents in fiction. Cheers! BD2412 T 19:36, 1 August 2022 (UTC)