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Question from JM69420 (10:04, 1 June 2022)
What are some good references that I can use in Wikipedia articles? --JM69420 (talk) 10:04, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
- @JM69420: professionally published books, journal/scientific articles and non-tabloid newspapers (print or online) are probably the main three forms of reliable sources. You can take a look at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources for a good list of case studies in which sources are (generally) reliable and in what contexts. We're generally looking for something written by a professional with subject expertise whose work had editorial oversight. If your concern is mainly about how you can access reliable sources, you might want to focus on freely available online newspapers (such as The Guardian). — Bilorv (talk) 10:45, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
Question from Mylittlesquare (16:29, 5 June 2022)
how do i make a wiki post xxx hmu --Mylittlesquare (talk) 16:29, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Mylittlesquare: I'm not quite sure what "wiki post" means. Your user talk page now has a welcome message with some links that might answer your question—if it doesn't, can you add more detail (are you looking to change an existing article or create a new one...)? — Bilorv (talk) 18:12, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
Question from MNF13 (20:58, 6 June 2022)
Hi mentor how do you make a profile for a prominent person I work for he's Foundation. --MNF13 (talk) 20:58, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
- @MNF13: if you work for this person's foundation then you should not create an article on them. See our Conflict of interest guidelines, which say
Do not edit Wikipedia in your own interests, nor in the interests of your external relationships.
For us to maintain a neutral point of view, we must maintain editorial independence from the people and organisations that we document. — Bilorv (talk) 21:30, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
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Many thanks for such an excellent list of challenges! AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 23:52, 23 June 2022 (UTC) |
- I'm glad you like them, AirshipJungleman29. It's been a pleasure to write them and see people appreciate them. Congratulations on getting Minimalist! — Bilorv (talk) 13:41, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
Question from Kalynda-e-commerce (11:43, 24 June 2022)
where I write for company in which option --Kalynda-e-commerce (talk) 11:43, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) This user has been blocked as an advertising-only account. Bishonen | tålk 11:54, 24 June 2022 (UTC).
Question from Schmid Mark (07:29, 27 June 2022)
Hello, Do you know how to reverse an edit done to a page ? Have a look at Audemars Piguet. Jasmine Audemars did not get married, so the name after her surname is wrong. François-Henry Bennahmias is still the current CEO. The name that stands instead is a joke. Current CBO is Olivia Crouan not what you read right now. All the last changes are vandalism rather than facts. Thanks for addressing or telling me how to get it done. Thank you, Mark --Schmid Mark (talk) 07:29, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Schmid Mark: thanks for the question! I'm glad you've brought this to my attention. I take it that you're talking about the page Audemars Piguet (surround text with
[[double square brackets]]
to make a link)? If you click "View history", you can see a list of each person who has edited the page and their description of their edits. Clicking "prev" on each line shows you what was changed in each edit, while clicking the timestamps (e.g. "23:21, 9 May 2022") shows you the page as it existed at that time.From a cursory glance at the history, it seems to me that the edits were not recent, so the best thing to do would be to just edit the page (click "Edit") and remove all incorrect information, preferably replacing it with the correct information (even better: with a reliable source for that info, if the article doesn't have one already). For future reference: if had been, say, just the one most recent edit, there's an "undo" button that would work.Can you have a go at this and let me know if you get stuck? — Bilorv (talk) 18:02, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
Add Vital article challenges
I think that we should encourage editors to improve broad-topic articles, so I propose an award for improving 2 Level-4 vital articles to GA-Class status. I think that such an award at User:Bilorv/Challenges should be called "broad-cast", though you would think of a better name than I do :) CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 10:21, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
- Interesting suggestion, CactiStaccingCrane. I am very tempted by the pun though I feel there's a Challenge somewhere that better fits that name (something about writing content on actors, cast, across different, broad, industries). The name coming to mind for me is "Vitality" but maybe that can be topped.I'm tempted to do something involving each level of Vital, like having a points system for improving any Vital article by a class (1 point for Level 5, 2 for Level 4 and so on up to 5 points for Level 1). But maybe a points leaderboard is a spin-off project too big for the Challenges that could be its own drive or competition. — Bilorv (talk) 18:31, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
- Enjoyed your challenges page, thanks for the playground. Per this section I recall once or twice I did a personal challenge of quickly making an edit that sticks on each of the top ten vital articles (italics, adding a year, etc.) and seem to remember that I accomplished that but may be mistaken. Maybe, because of your challenge page and the comments here I'll do it again at some point. Randy Kryn (talk) 00:35, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
- Just did a 10 for 10 top 10 vital article run (small but visible edits for italics, adding years, links and link fixes, etc.). No major edits but a successful edit run (one step of the legendary 'Wikipedia trieditathlon'). Randy Kryn (talk) 22:09, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
- Please, please do! We need more people working on vital articles asap. I've tried to improve science a fair bit, and will improve it more in the near future. CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 01:15, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for dealing with Science, a pretty important topic to get right, especially in the lead. I'll take a look at some of the leads of the 10, can't promise when or else it'd seem like work, and I haven't read any of them all the way down to the navboxes with conscious attention (what percentage actually do?) but yes, all of the leads of the top 10 should be, as they say, crystal. Randy Kryn (talk) 03:06, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
- @CactiStaccingCrane: okay, here's my concrete suggestion:
- Vitality: improve 5 Level 5 Vital articles, 4 Level 4 Vital articles, 3 Level 3 Vital articles, 2 Level 2 Vital articles or 1 Level 1 Vital article by one or more classes.
- (One article can't be counted more than once; the hierarchy of classes is FA > A > GA > B > C > Start > Stub. You must make substantive improvements that bring the article from one class to another, rather than just being the person to update the class in the WikiProject banners.) — Bilorv (talk) 14:26, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
- I think that's a great idea, though I think most would improve 5 Level 5 articles rather than working on the big Level 1. CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 02:12, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- @CactiStaccingCrane: indeed, but there'd be something satisfying if you got it the Level 1 way. I think there is something else to be done in the field of incentivising people to improve Vital articles, but for now I've added the Challenge and credited it to you in the lead. — Bilorv (talk) 23:13, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
- I agree, it's better than nothing :) CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 02:00, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
- @CactiStaccingCrane: indeed, but there'd be something satisfying if you got it the Level 1 way. I think there is something else to be done in the field of incentivising people to improve Vital articles, but for now I've added the Challenge and credited it to you in the lead. — Bilorv (talk) 23:13, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
- I think that's a great idea, though I think most would improve 5 Level 5 articles rather than working on the big Level 1. CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 02:12, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- @CactiStaccingCrane: okay, here's my concrete suggestion:
- Thanks for dealing with Science, a pretty important topic to get right, especially in the lead. I'll take a look at some of the leads of the 10, can't promise when or else it'd seem like work, and I haven't read any of them all the way down to the navboxes with conscious attention (what percentage actually do?) but yes, all of the leads of the top 10 should be, as they say, crystal. Randy Kryn (talk) 03:06, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
- Enjoyed your challenges page, thanks for the playground. Per this section I recall once or twice I did a personal challenge of quickly making an edit that sticks on each of the top ten vital articles (italics, adding a year, etc.) and seem to remember that I accomplished that but may be mistaken. Maybe, because of your challenge page and the comments here I'll do it again at some point. Randy Kryn (talk) 00:35, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
This isn't that important but I just realized
...art thou the founder of Numberwang Wiki from years past? if so, um, somehow I came across it a few months ago. and did the hunt thing, i liked that one in particular, would recommend thou make it longer, but that's just my opinion. anyway that's it, ty :) ActuallyNeverHappened02 (a place to chalk | a list of stuff i've done) 12:14, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
- @ActuallyNeverHappened02: yes, in one sense I can't believe that was 7 years ago, and in another sense it seems like much longer. I think some of the changes to Fandom have broken code on some pages, but it's hard to say whether this makes the website more or less incoherent. I also think the Hunt should have been longer, but I think I just got bored while making it and never revisited it. I'm glad you liked the website though! — Bilorv (talk) 17:55, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
- awesome! i had seen your wikipedia work before, and i really liked the numberwang wiki, so when i learned 'twas you, i had to confirm :) ty ActuallyNeverHappened02 (a place to chalk | a list of stuff i've done) 18:57, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
British Wikimania?
Hi, thanks for your reply at the Signpost page. You mentioned inaccessible wiki conferences, and I realized I don't know if there was an annual British Wikiconference before the Covid lockdowns. I've attended three North American conferences and one worldcon and they were enjoyable and helpful to and for the participants. Does Britian have one? Thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 00:23, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
- I'm not aware of anything like this in Britain, Randy Kryn. There are some very informal pub meetups in London and a couple of other places. No doubt such national/international conferences are inspiring and the conversations volunteers have with each other give them invaluable insight to improve their editing. However, they are not accessible to all volunteers even if travel and accommodation fees are covered due to family commitments, loss of income, disability that prevents long-distance travel, or safety reasons. — Bilorv (talk) 09:47, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
- Meant to reply then never reminded myself. Of course many volunteers can't make it to a conference, maybe it's one of those things that you should go to at least once if you can. At my only worldcon, Montreal 2017 (inaccessible in part: felons aren't allowed to travel into Canada), the first Wikipedian I ever met in person was someone whose username I recognized and I walked up and said "I thought you were a bot!" But for Europe not to have or attempt to have an annual European Conference, I guess I don't know why not. North America has one, except for covid (WikiVegas2023!, at least an option), and India and Africa hold nationwide conferences when they can. So where is Europe, Australia, Asia, and South America? Even Antartica if there are some Wikipmedians out there. I'm not saying that you should personally organize a British or European Wikimania conference, just that it would be nice if a committee of ten to 20 people coordinate such a thing, in communication and assistance from the foundation at key points. They are too fun not to. Randy Kryn (talk) 04:16, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
Banned user
That user is a sock puppet of a banned user who originally went by the username User:DJdjPollard15. They have been trying to evade their ban for years, using dozens of accounts. You might want to check out the multiple SPI cases against them. – PeeJay 15:23, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
- @PeeJay: I'm still struggling to see where the user has been blocked for ban evasion, or there is evidence that this is the same person as that banned account, but in any case I have taken responsibility for the minor change, which I substantially transformed into my own writing prior to being made aware of these alleged connections to a banned account. — Bilorv (talk) 15:34, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
- This new user has not been blocked yet, but it's a clear case of ban evasion. The username follows a similar format to their most recent socks and the edit summaries are almost verbatim. They also tend to target the same articles whenever they come back. The Butterfly (TV series) page is a new one, it seems, but it's definitely the same person. The SPI investigation will prove that. – PeeJay 15:38, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
Question from RMJINMYJHJMVJK (12:19, 9 July 2022)
Hi, I wanted to know how to insert or upload a video to an article --RMJINMYJHJMVJK (talk) 12:19, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
- Hi RMJINMYJHJMVJK! The answer to your question is: in most cases, you can't. Wikipedia is free content that anyone can use, edit, and distribute, with rare exceptions, and videos are copyrighted by default by the person who filmed it, or the production company, or whoever else may own it. If somebody has released a video under a free license then we can sometimes use it with attribution on Wikimedia Commons. Very, very occasionally it can be appropriate to show short snippets of a video as fair use.If this doesn't answer your question, tell me the specific video and article context and I can evaluate whether we can use it. — Bilorv (talk) 21:15, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
Question from Muaz11 on Ahmed Deedat (13:50, 10 July 2022)
Rabbiif yaa qulqqulloofnu --Muaz11 (talk) 13:50, 10 July 2022 (UTC)
Thanks for the suggestion. Also help?
I actually needed some help to edit the notes section in the List of accolades received by Avengers:Infinity war. Other than that The page is completed. This is my first time creating a page, so I'm somewhat unskilled. Thank you for your suggestion. I would use the draft page next time. Shiraj chandra (talk) 07:48, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Shiraj chandra: Wikipedia is not a reliable source, so we wouldn't use it between reference tags as a "Note". When we do create Wikipedia links to articles, it's by enclosing the article title within double brackets, such as
[[elephant]]
(producing: elephant) or[[elephant|click here to see an elephant!]]
(producing: click here to see an elephant!).I'm not sure what your intention is with the text "Avengers:Infinity War was the first superhero film to gross over 2 billion dollars,the highest grossing film of 2018 and it kept record for being the highest grossing superhero film of all time until 2019.", currently in the "Notes" section. Notes are just another type of footnote like "References" and there isn't generally text within the section, just footnotes. — Bilorv (talk) 08:07, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
I saw a note in the endgame accolades article. So i just assumed that notes would be something about the achievements of that particular film Or some facts. Shiraj chandra (talk) 10:30, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
I apologize for bothering you so much. Shiraj chandra (talk) 10:33, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Shiraj chandra: No problem—please, ask away! I know Wikipedia has a very steep learning curve. I've removed the "Notes" section as it seems it's not required in this instance. — Bilorv (talk) 19:36, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
Thank you so much! Shiraj chandra (talk) 04:29, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
Another video issue
I recently uploaded a clip of the angiogram scene from The Exorcist to put in that article as it's the subject of multiple instances of sourced commentary. I also created and uploaded English subtitles, but they're not showing up in the video even when selected. What am I doing wrong? Am I doing anything wrong? Daniel Case (talk) 20:28, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Daniel Case: hmm, this is a strange one. I can't tell what the issue is, which indicates to me that it's not on your end. Incidentally, does a video of length 2:39 really meet WP:NFCCP#3(b)? That's a huge amount for only two paragraphs of sourced commentary. For non-free music audio, 30 seconds (or 10%, whichever is less) is the general cutoff. I think the video would show the same amount of information if it was cut to the portion from 1:25 to 2:05 (the actual angiogram), and I think you could get across the point you want to show with 30 seconds of the clip. — Bilorv (talk) 20:51, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- Well, one of the points is that it's been praised by medical professionals as one of the most realistic portrayals of a medical procedure in a popular film, performed by a real doctor, nurse and radiological tech (famously convicted of murder several years later, another reason to have him in that scene as it's discussed elsewhere in the article), an aspect discussed in the section under "production", so I believe it important to show the prep as well.
I'm aware of the standard for audio music and have followed it with the clips I included in "Aja", and "FM (No Static At All)" for instance, but we have as yet not come up with any standard for film clips. And for that I think that 30 seconds is just plain too little. I included the whole cerulean sweater speech from The Devil Wears Prada because there's just no way to adequately deal with it in less than 30 seconds, and since the whole thing is a little longer than a minute and a half, I think we're OK). Daniel Case (talk) 01:12, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Daniel Case: I can see your point, and perhaps you can see mine, but I guess this is a matter for a bigger discussion one day if there ever prove to be enough good case studies to think about making some general policy/guideline. That's very interesting background on Bateson, so I've got a good fact the next time somebody talks about The Exorcist. — Bilorv (talk) 17:43, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
- Well, one of the points is that it's been praised by medical professionals as one of the most realistic portrayals of a medical procedure in a popular film, performed by a real doctor, nurse and radiological tech (famously convicted of murder several years later, another reason to have him in that scene as it's discussed elsewhere in the article), an aspect discussed in the section under "production", so I believe it important to show the prep as well.
Question from আসাদগেটের আঁতেল on Cymbopogon (16:18, 18 July 2022)
I want to add lemon Grass flower picture. How ? --আসাদগেটের আঁতেল (talk) 16:18, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
- @আসাদগেটের আঁতেল: firstly, you can only upload photos to Wikipedia that you have photographed yourself. Are you looking to add a photo of a lemongrass flower that you have taken? — Bilorv (talk) 16:49, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
Lemon Grass flower picture
Yes. Yesterday I took it. 27.147.201.33 (talk) 01:03, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
- Okay, great! In that case, you have to upload the image to Wikimedia Commons through this process and be ready to release it under a free license so that others can republish it. After you've uploaded the image, it should give you some wikicode that looks something like:
[[File:Example.jpg|thumb|An example image]]
that will tell you how to add the image to an article. — Bilorv (talk) 08:24, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
Question from Rln2700 (08:02, 30 July 2022)
I have severe difficulties in getting formulas right.
I started off by pasting the Libreoffice math stuff, but it made wiki choke. Then, it seems, some kind person helped me out on half of the formula.
I then thought, that I'd got the picture, but NO, the formula crashed as a whole. Now, it seems, it has just been removed - OK - I found a work around by importing images ...
My question really is: will "you" provide a filter to import LO math ???
Ps. The "battlefield" is the Trachtenberg System page
--Rln2700 (talk) 08:02, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Rln2700: take a look at Help:Displaying a formula. Most of our maths formatting can be done by writing LaTeX formulae between "math" tags e.g.
<math>2^{10}=1024=\frac{2^{20}}{2^{10}}</math>
produces: . I can see that you have used images as a workaround, but your image File:Proof method 3-2.png still has a large number of formatting errors: for instance, the asterisk should be a proper symbol (\times
), "hvis" should not be part of the text (not sure what this means) and "div" and "mod" should not be in italics if they are the names of functions (\div
produces ).
I believe that LibreOffice uses a pseudo-LaTeX system without the backslashes e.g.sum 2^{-i times 3}
produces . I do not know if you can paste LibreOffice maths text as markup into another text processor. You would be better writing in Wikipedia directly, in a sandbox page like User:Rln2700/sandbox, so that you can regularly save your changes without them going live with formatting errors on the page you are writing for. You can then copy the wikitext over to Trachtenberg system when you have perfected it.
With regards to the changes that have been made to the article Trachtenberg system by other volunteers, clicking "View history" will take you to this page where you can see all of the versions of the page that have ever existed, what was changed between each version, by who and with what edit summary. — Bilorv (talk) 10:55, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
Thx again. I have No clue - WHAT so ever - on how to provide an import filter from LO math to Wiki. And, yes of course, I did look i to the help pages, but I could not reach the goal. I think I'll stick to the image - at LEAST it works for me. Thx for your effort! Rln2700 (talk) 14:10, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
Question from Rln2700 (11:17, 30 July 2022)
Hi! THX But my question was just: My question really is: will "you" provide a filter to import LO math ??? --Rln2700 (talk) 11:17, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Rln2700: I'm a volunteer just as you are. Will you provide a framework to import maths from LibreOffice? You're welcome to write one, if this is technically possible (it may require support on LibreOffice's end—I don't know). But I'm not sure that there would be a large use case for Wikipedians as a whole. It may not be common for volunteers to write in LibreOffice and then copy it into Wikipedia. — Bilorv (talk) 11:21, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
Thanks
Hello! I appreciate your hyper-quick reviewing of Eveless Eden. Also, thanks for the constructive comments. I'll keep those in mind for the next book page I create. MarchOfTheGreyhounds (talk) 17:45, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
- @MarchOfTheGreyhounds: no problem! I write a lot of articles on books myself, and it's nice to see a 20th century book article, too. It was a quick approval because the book reviews from very well-known sources and prize shortlisting are a slum dunk under WP:NBOOK#1 (and because I happened to click on the queue at the right moment for it). — Bilorv (talk) 17:50, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you, Bilorv. I'm trying to write articles for all books shortlisted for the Women's Prize for Fiction since its inception. I thought that just being shortlisted for the award doesn't make a book notable, but I'm finding the majority easily meet NBOOK through their reviews anyway. I'll keep plugging away and try to learn as I go. MarchOfTheGreyhounds (talk) 17:54, 31 July 2022 (UTC)