The Closure requests noticeboard is for posting requests to have an uninvolved editor assess, summarize, and formally close a discussion on Wikipedia. Formal closure by an uninvolved editor or administrator should be requested where consensus appears unclear, where the issue is a contentious one, or where there are wiki-wide implications, such as when the discussion is about creating, abolishing or changing a policy or guideline.
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Requests for closure
Administrative discussions
Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive1100#Alansohn - Repeated Violation of IBAN
(Initiated 55 days ago on 30 May 2022) I request that this be formally closed. It appears that there may be a consensus here, but the result of the discussion needs to be logged. Thank you.--Rusf10 (talk) 17:56, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- This appears to have been archived without closure. BD2412 T 06:23, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive344#JIP
(Initiated 37 days ago on 17 June 2022) Nobody's added anything for a week, so it's time to wrap this up. -- RoySmith (talk) 12:07, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
- Looks like this one was also archived without closure, which is probably fine. -- RoySmith (talk) 12:41, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive1103#Editor 84.250.14.116 behavior
(Initiated 20 days ago on 4 July 2022) It was archived without closure or administrative resolution. The concern was brought up again at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring#User:84.250.14.116 reported by User:Yae4 (Result: ) on 23 July 2022. 84.250.14.116 (talk) 13:12, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
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Requests for comment
Talk:Italian Social Movement#RFC: Italian Social Movement political position
(Initiated 91 days ago on 24 April 2022) RFC tag expired two days ago, and discussion has stopped since weeks, so it needs a formal closure. Already the OP took initiative and decided the RFC result without a proper closure, and they might try to do this again soon. Yakme (talk) 13:34, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
- This type of allusions (to which the user is not new) seems to me inappropriate and rather out of place. Until now there was a clear consensus for one of the three options, after two months of Rfc I limited myself to realizing the result of the Rfc, it was my prerogative. However, another user intervened today (after the expiration of the RFC, to tell the truth) and this slightly called into question the balance of consensus. Perhaps the best solution would be to further extend the RFC and seek the opinion of other users, to have a more defined result.--Scia Della Cometa (talk) 22:19, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
- Look, I voted for the option you favor, so I am sort of shooting myself in the foot here, but your methods of working here are totally unacceptable. (1) A 5–3 majority is not automatically a proof of consensus, let alone proof of "clear" consensus; (2) it was not your "prerogative" to "realize" the result of the RfC by yourself and also act on it by editing the page accordingly; (3) I don't think it's forbidden for users to give their opinions after the expiration of the RfC, their opinion is still valid; (4) I am not against extending the RFC, however this has already gone for more than 2 months. Yakme (talk) 23:13, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
- For me it is quite irrelevant if you consider "unacceptable" a prerogative provided by the rules of Wikipedia. You are free to challenge my interpretation of the result and request closure from an uninvolved user, but not to contest prerogatives explicitly provided by Wikipedia itself.--Scia Della Cometa (talk) 07:07, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
- Look, I voted for the option you favor, so I am sort of shooting myself in the foot here, but your methods of working here are totally unacceptable. (1) A 5–3 majority is not automatically a proof of consensus, let alone proof of "clear" consensus; (2) it was not your "prerogative" to "realize" the result of the RfC by yourself and also act on it by editing the page accordingly; (3) I don't think it's forbidden for users to give their opinions after the expiration of the RfC, their opinion is still valid; (4) I am not against extending the RFC, however this has already gone for more than 2 months. Yakme (talk) 23:13, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
Talk:Historicity_of_the_Book_of_Mormon#RfC_on_category_inclusion/exclusion
(Initiated 82 days ago on 3 May 2022) No new comments since 1 June. Clear majority favoring the inclusion of the category, with a minority dominated by editors that appear to be in favor of looking at the Book of Mormon as a factual historical document. JimKaatFan (talk) 20:46, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
Talk:Joe Biden#'46th and current president...' or just '46th president...' and Talk:Kamala Harris#"49th and current"
(Initiated 39 days ago on 15 June 2022) Recommend both be closed with a consistent decision, between them. Editor participation was near identical, in both RFCs. GoodDay (talk) 22:44, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
Talk:Greased piglet#RfC on examples
(Initiated 11 days ago on 13 July 2022) Request for Comment rooted in WP:SYNTH, on whether examples of use should require a reliable source to verify that they are notable examples, or whether editors can search the web and select any examples of its use and cite those directly as examples.
There have been eight (by my count) contributors, but no comments have been added for almost six days, and one of the main contributors has been indefinitely blocked in the meantime, the IP contributor has not edited since, and one contributor commented only on an unasked question.
The issue is quite contentious, and as the outcome would seem to rely on WP:SYNTH interpretation, I favour an uninvolved close please. -- DeFacto (talk). 08:49, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
- This would really benefit from a bit more participation, and it's only been open a week. I think letting it ride for now is probably a good call. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:36, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
- ScottishFinnishRadish, thanks for looking at it, and thanks for the advice. I've added a request for participation at WP:NORN. -- DeFacto (talk). 20:18, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
- No problem. I took a peek, and with such low participation and so short a time, it's either let it ride, or no consensus. Hopefully the discussion progresses a bit more. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:20, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
- ScottishFinnishRadish, thanks for looking at it, and thanks for the advice. I've added a request for participation at WP:NORN. -- DeFacto (talk). 20:18, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
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Deletion discussions
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TfD | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 2 |
MfD | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 2 |
FfD | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 2 |
RfD | 0 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 3 |
AfD | 0 | 0 | 0 | 20 | 20 |
Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2022_May_11#Category:Songs_about_religion
(Initiated 169 days ago on 5 February 2022) Keep, delete per WP:TNT, or close as no consensus? –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 14:27, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2022_May_29#Category:Leaders_of_American_trade_unions
(Initiated 128 days ago on 18 March 2022) Obvious no consensus closure after two relists, but I'm not comfortable closing this as a non-admin. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 14:57, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2022_May_13#People_by_populated_place_in_Italy
(Initiated 72 days ago on 13 May 2022) Considering that several categories here have been populated since the beginning of the nomination, I'd close as procedural keep per the WP:TRAINWRECK principle. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 14:57, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Deletion review#Megan Huntsman
(Initiated 17 days ago on 7 July 2022) Previous closure was undone. ––FormalDude talk 16:09, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gershon Fuentes sexual assault case
(Initiated 10 days ago on 14 July 2022) Please review or relist this discussion. --Jax 0677 (talk) 00:35, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
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Other types of closing requests
Wikipedia:Proposed article mergers#Merge requests
(Initiated 361 days ago on 28 July 2021) Major backlog of requests needing closure czar 17:58, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)/Archive 189#Proposing a change to the notability declining message in AFC
(Initiated 130 days ago on 16 March 2022) Discussion about a change in the general notability decline message for AfC. There is disagreement about whether consensus was found for the last (bulleted) proposal, and a template edit request was declined. I started a discussion to address the open question (what to do with the decline messages for topics with an SNG), unaware of this declined edit request. Would be good to have a formal closure, so that the new discussion can build on that. Femke (talk) 20:08, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Dogs#Proposal_to_update_the_project's_RS_guideline
(Initiated 123 days ago on 23 March 2022) No comments since May. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:31, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
Talk:Nintendo Entertainment System#Proposal to create a separate entry for the Family Computer (Famicom)
(Initiated 101 days ago on 14 April 2022) No clear consensus has been reached, and with no comments since July 4, one is not likely to happen anytime soon. I have already messaged the editor who submitted the initial request about creating a draft article instead. SmartAn01 (talk) 04:01, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
Wikipedia talk:New pages patrol/Reviewers#Proposal: increase unreviewed new page search engine NOINDEX duration
(Initiated 37 days ago on 17 June 2022) - The folks at Phabricator are requesting a formal close to move forward. I'd encourage the closer to clearly state 1) whether there is consensus for an increase of any kind above the default of 90 days, 2) if there is consensus for a specific number of days (such as 180, 365, indefinite, etc.), and 3) whether this is a local consensus or a site wide consensus. This was advertised at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)/Archive 190#New page search engine NOINDEX duration for a week or two before being auto archived. –Novem Linguae (talk) 05:44, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Move_review#Indus_Valley_civilisation
(Initiated 29 days ago on 25 June 2022) Open more than two weeks and discussion seems to have tapered off. -- Vaulter 20:35, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Neutral point of view/Noticeboard#First human spaceflight
(Initiated 17 days ago on 7 July 2022) – Requesting an uninvolved editor assess, summarize, and close this discussion. This lengthy discussion has been going on for 15 days and we have a consensus from three Editors of agreed changes and to close, and a anonymous editor with various IP addresses that has no support for their edits and may object to the close, hence this request. Note their was a previous related discussion at Talk:Space Race#NPOV issues and a ongoing related discussion at Wikipedia talk:Requests for comment#Possible RFC regarding spaceflight chronological timelines and the anom editor has made appeals at various talk pages ie User talk:JustinTime55. Ilenart626 (talk) 21:14, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
- For the record, 204.15.72.92 (talk), 193.233.171.17 (talk), and 194.145.237.79 (talk) are all the same person, see here (
Disclaimer: The original computer network was down so I have to use another network at another place, hence the address difference
) and here (Hi, it's me again. [...] I had to switch networks again
). TompaDompa (talk) 21:41, 22 July 2022 (UTC)