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Regarding User:Chidgk1 and GAR closure
Hi, thanks a lot for closing Starship's GAR, it is very appreciated. However, you said that reasons that mirror those brought up at the GAR, again making it very clear that the GA criteria are not met
, which are POV and prose issues. I can take care of making the text more clear and interesting, but what bugs me is the POV issue, which I could not figure how to solve it. What are your thoughts? CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 07:01, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
- I didn't close the GAR, Compassionate727 did. I disputed the original close and asked for it to be reopened. Here's the thing - and you're not going to like me very much for saying this - I think the article's issues are going to persist as long as you're the primary contributor. I just don't see a way around it. It's not just that you've struggled to acknowledge that valid criticism of him and his projects should be worked into the article. It's also continually been an issue for you to write the prose neutrally - your bias towards Musk and Starship colors the text positively in a way that is unencyclopedic. On top of that, I think you are less capable of writing clear and grammatically correct prose than you think you are. At all 3 FACs, basic correctness of the prose was a major concern, and it remains so. Even your short message here is awkwardly written, which tells me this is not an issue limited to article writing. I think you need to take a step back and honestly assess whether you have the capability to bring this article to GA/FA standards in English. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 14:56, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
- Honestly, even though I know that you are right it still hurts to read your comment. I don't know what to do here now... CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 15:49, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
- I think if you want to keep contributing, you should try doing so for topics you don't feel strongly about. It is possible to write about things you're a fan of (I've done it), but you have to be able to take a step back and include the criticism, and not everyone has an easy time doing so. You may also want to think about focusing on contributing in your native language - it's going to be a lot easier to write clean, crisp prose in a language you're natively fluent in.
- If you want to continue contributing in English, I would suggest trying to seek out off-wiki resources for improving grammar and prose before trying to take anything back to GA/FA. If you do return to GA/FA, try doing so with a smaller, more stable article first; these are a lot easier to cover comprehensively and usually are easier to get through. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 16:28, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
- Alright, I will try to gather a team of editors so that we can compensate each other's weaknesses. This would include people who have never heard of Starship before, as well as those from GAR (like you!) I would also read great FA articles to build up my writing skill, particularly from SandyGeorgia's and Buidhe's. I hope that this "plan" would work out in the end... CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 17:03, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
- No, I don't think you understand. I'm not suggesting ways for you to continue with this right now. I'm talking about you, specifically, stepping away from this article for a long time. Like, months.
- You flat-out do not have the ability to do the job at this time given your devotion to Musk and limited capability with the English language. Your insistence on getting StarshipX to GA/FA is becoming a timesink to reviewers, who have tried to explain to you again and again that there are serious issues with the article. You haven't even acknowledged the serious sourcing issues pointed out at the GAR. How is a hypothetical team going to help when you don't acknowledge or understand the good faith criticism that's already been given to you in abundance? ♠PMC♠ (talk) 17:19, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
- Alright, I will try to gather a team of editors so that we can compensate each other's weaknesses. This would include people who have never heard of Starship before, as well as those from GAR (like you!) I would also read great FA articles to build up my writing skill, particularly from SandyGeorgia's and Buidhe's. I hope that this "plan" would work out in the end... CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 17:03, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
- Honestly, even though I know that you are right it still hurts to read your comment. I don't know what to do here now... CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 15:49, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
Tornasi people article
Hello,
this is a current PROD set by you. Since, I have written this article anew. On Talk:Tornasi people, I have suggested a move as well as added information possibyl suitable for the article.Sarcelles (talk) 10:31, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
- The problem is the sourcing for these assertions. Joshua Project is IMO not a reliable source since it's a missionary organization attempting to collate stats on people it hasn't converted yet. And Quora is definitely not reliable, given that it's a user-generated Q&A site. You need actual reliable sourcing if you want this article to remain on Wikipedia - think sources by academic scholars, or books sourced to those kinds of sources. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 14:25, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
Requesting undeletion/access to article
Hi there! I noticed that you were the closing admin on Paddy Pimblett's AfD. Since the deletion, he's participated in 2 UFC fights and will definitely be in a 3rd, meeting WP:MMABIO. Would it be possible to have the contents of that page moved to somewhere accessible? I'd like to restore the page upon completion of his 3rd fight. Thanks! Thirty4 (talk) 16:44, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
- Thirty4 there's already a fairly in-depth draft (more complete than the version I deleted) at Draft:Paddy Pimblett, you may want to pitch in on that. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 23:24, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
Argie 15
Hi I see you have "proposed that this article be deleted" with respects to the article [[1]]. I realize it all comes down to a matter of opinion. I would like to object. My reasons are:
- Designer Dudley Dix is notable in having won serval awards, i.e. "Paper Jet" and is often cited in trade journals.
From a sales add for one of his boats https://www.yachtworld.com/yacht/2016-dudley-dix-dh-550-catamaran-7864594/ "Revered design" yes it depends on your perspective.
- The Argie 15 is a tabloid boat of the "Mirror" variety. A design published in a news paper to drive paper sale.
It was designed as a simple versatile DIY boat and not a race class boat; though its versatility is gaining it attention as a RAID boat. After a typhoon destroyed a fleet of small fishing boats in Malaysia? Dudley donated the design to a relief group. This was done so they could quickly and simply rebuild their fleet. I would add this to the article but need more fact checking. The Argie 15 is a design that just keeps getting built, and really has replaced the original Wayfarer in design philosophy which has lost much of its utility in becoming a racing boat. Again does this merit an article on Wikipedia?
I raise these points for your consideration, I am building one right now so yes there is a bias. Wikipedia did help me find the boat, the article is small so I don't see the harm in keeping it. There is a lot of activity around the boat in the wooden boat building forums.
Have a great day. Simply a gecko on the wall — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wallgecko (talk • contribs) 18:26, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah, I don't find this compelling. I've taken it to articles for deletion. I mentioned this comment, but I invite you to comment there as well. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 23:35, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
RevDel of Max (cigarette)
Hi, thanks for pointing that out. I've adjusted the range to start from [2]; past there, it becomes unclear who's copying from who, so I think WP:PDEL is a safe assumption. Sunmist (talk) 09:26, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
- That makes no sense, we can't revdel on a presumptive deletion. I'm fine with RD'ing to Matteo's 1200 byte diff, but going all the way back to 2009 on a pdel is a no-go for me. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 09:41, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
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Hey PMC, I sent you an email - it's a bit of an urgent IRL situation, so would appreciate you getting back to me :) --SuperJew (talk) 05:02, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
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Mass proposed redirecting of The Wire character articles
Hi, you objected to my proposed deletion of Kima Greggs. I have now opened a thread to discuss redirecting this and a few dozen other articles I have also tagged: [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Fictional characters#Redirecting articles on [mostly] minor The Wire characters]]. I hope you can weigh in there if you are able. Long story short, I am saying there that I think most of the in-universe content of all these articles (which we agree are currently crappy articles—the question is whether the topics of them are potentially article-worthy) needs to go, but I think it's worth seeking input about whether that should be done by wholesale blanking and redirecting these articles, or by keeping them but deleting most of their content and turning them into stubs with a bunch of cleanup tags on the top. 61.18.156.43 (talk) 03:30, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
- I'm not invested in keeping any of the articles on minor characters; I agree those probably ought to be RD'd to a character list. However, a great deal of critical analysis has been written about The Wire, and I wouldn't be surprised if all the major characters came out with a clear GNG pass. Kima in particular has a lot of critical commentary related to her identity as a black lesbian cop that goes well beyond trivial mentions. Cracking the Wire (2022) discusses her importance and ongoing importance 15+ years after the show ended, this is a decent amount of coverage, here we have discussion of her queer identity, here are several pages that argue she's the only female character in the show with any significant development, [3], [4], [5], [6], and that's just GBooks, not even GScholar, JSTOR, Project Muse, or the rest of the WMF Library. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 03:48, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
DYK for Marika Sila
On 18 April 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Marika Sila, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Inuvialuk actress Marika Sila views her acting career as a platform for outreach and education on the culture and rights of Indigenous peoples in Canada? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Marika Sila. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Marika Sila), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page. |
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:03, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
Kima Greggs
Regarding your revert here: I am not disputing notability (in fact I already acknowledged elsewhere that I accept your argument that the subject is notable). I am putting a tag because the article needs sources and a claim of notability added – as already established in our previous discussion, we both agree that, even if the subject is notable, the article is crappy and needs to be improved. And that's what the cleanup tag is for. As the cleanup tag says, it's a notice informing editors and readers that someone needs to add sources to demonstrate the notability of the topic.
Do you have a more appropriate cleanup tag to suggest? 61.18.156.43 (talk) 01:37, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
- The notability tag is for articles that don't appear to meet the GNG. We both agree that the article meets the GNG. Rather than fighting over maintenance tags, maybe you should consider contributing some content to the article, since the sources clearly exist. It's fine if you don't want to, but aggressively trying to strip content and add tags seems like a waste of time when improvement is clearly possible. In all fairness, I'm guilty of not improving it immediately either - but I'm dealing with some other projects at the moment and don't split my focus well. I'll get around to it. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 05:18, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
- I'm not trying to "fight over maintenance tags", I'm trying to improve the encyclopedia. I have no interest in doing the work to rewrite and condense the plot summary (partly because it's been so long that I watched the show that I can't really remember Kima's arc and thus I'm not qualified to directly fix the article, at least not without doing research of my own first which I am not currently willing to do), but putting on a tag that alerts others to what needs to be done is an easy first step and it's not unconstructuve.
- Look, we both agree that the article needs improvement and that its current state is not good, so that means there is nothing wrong with putting a tag on it. Your only objection to that is that you don't like the specific tag that I used to indicate that.
- Your criticizing me for "fighting over maintenance tags" is, as you've already noted, patently hypocritical. I could just as well criticize you for "fighting over maintenance tags" (if you didn't like my tag you could have improved the article rather than just removing the tag! see, that's almost exactly the same criticism you just made of me). But my point is that criticisms like that would not be productive, so it would be great if neither of us waste time making those kinds of criticisms anymore.
- I don't know where that kind of condescending behaviour and calling me "aggressive" comes from, because at every step of the way I have been open to your suggestions and trying to implement them. When I suggested prod and you disagreed, I listened to your point and agreed that the article should be improved rather than redirected. When I removed the whole plot synopsis and you disagreed, I listened to your point and put a tag there instead of just removing everything. So as far as I can tell, I'm the one who's been trying to improve the encyclopedia (note that, contrary to what you imply in your message, stripping content sometimes is a way of improving an article, when that content is content that does not belong in the article) whereas you're the one who's just tendentiously reverting almost everything I do and then leaving me an insulting message about it.
- So how about instead of that bullshit, we actually try to do something productively, which is what I thought we had been doing before? I'm going to put another cleanup tag on the article [different from the one I used before] because we both agree that the article needs to be cleaned up. If you don't like the cleanup tag I put there, you are welcome to suggest a better one, or suggest a reason why you think the article shouldn't have any cleanup tag. 61.18.156.43 (talk) 06:41, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
- Continuing to jam notability maintenance tags into an article that clearly meets GNG is aggressive. Jamming a second plot summary maintenance tag into the article is aggressive. Stripping the entire plot summary instead of trimming it to comply with the MOS is aggressive, and not at all an improvement. If you don't feel able to trim the plot summary down to a reasonable state, you could be adding content from the numerous sources I linked on the talk page, or adding to the source dump. Instead, you write this enormous talk page message and put zero work into the article. I have a track record of content, and I'll get to Kima when my focus swings that way. I'd be happy to see you working on improving the article in the meantime, should you wish to do so. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 07:24, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
- It seems like you are being deliberately obtuse in obsessing over one little tag. We both agreed that the article needs work to show why its subject is notable, and you are nitpicking over the fact that I accidentally chose the wrong tag out of this gigantic morass of hundreds of tags? Any reasonable person can see how two of us ended up interpreting the tags in different ways (I focused on the second sentence, "please help to demonstrate the notability of the topic", whereas you focused on the first sentence, "the topic of this article may not meet the GNG"—perhaps your interpretation is the right one, but I think you can easily see how someone in my shoes might have accidentally arrived the other interpretation), so fussing about the fact that I chose a slightly less appropriate tag than the better tag seems stupid.
- It's also not just about the plot summary. I pointed out two problems with the article: (1) the plot summary is overly long and detailed, and (2) the article needs to explain why the subject is notable. I'm pretty sure we don't disagree on either of these points. I'm also 100% sure there is nothing wrong with adding tags to indicate that an article has a problem. (WP:TC has some guidelines on how to add or not add tags, and I have not violated any of them other than arguably adding two tags for one problem—but as I said above, I think the overly long plot summary and the lack of content explaining notability are two separate problems.) So I don't know why you're being a jerk about it. And by the way, saying essentially "I have a good record of creating content and I have plans to clean up this article at some unspecified future time so you are not allowed to mess around with my article in the meantime" (which is how I understand the second-to-last sentence of your above message) is stonewalling and unconstructive. Anyway I am done arguing with you about this; feel free to say or do whatever you want but I am not going to reply here anymore and I am not going to edit that argument anymore. 61.18.156.43 (talk) 07:44, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
- Continuing to jam notability maintenance tags into an article that clearly meets GNG is aggressive. Jamming a second plot summary maintenance tag into the article is aggressive. Stripping the entire plot summary instead of trimming it to comply with the MOS is aggressive, and not at all an improvement. If you don't feel able to trim the plot summary down to a reasonable state, you could be adding content from the numerous sources I linked on the talk page, or adding to the source dump. Instead, you write this enormous talk page message and put zero work into the article. I have a track record of content, and I'll get to Kima when my focus swings that way. I'd be happy to see you working on improving the article in the meantime, should you wish to do so. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 07:24, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
Black Christian Siriano gown of Billy Porter
Nice work. Should be a featured picture. BusterD (talk) 16:25, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks! I wish it could be, but it's fair use :( I'm stoked I managed to find an image though, most red carpet fashion pics are Getty or some other picture agency and can't be used under fair use. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 20:01, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
- That sucks; I missed that. Means another image will have to be on the mainpage next to the DYK. What a tragedy. Nice coverage, terrific story. I can't be the only editor who feels that way. Glad to see the work at DYK. Where was Shankbone when we needed him? BusterD (talk) 20:30, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
- Aah, I know, right? I would die to be able to put a proper photo of the dress on the front page. Felt the same about eight-ball jacket when it hit DYK. It's just not the same without a big bold picture. (As to your edit summary - I feel that! I am not myself a fashion plate, I just like looking at them :P) ♠PMC♠ (talk) 21:36, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
- That sucks; I missed that. Means another image will have to be on the mainpage next to the DYK. What a tragedy. Nice coverage, terrific story. I can't be the only editor who feels that way. Glad to see the work at DYK. Where was Shankbone when we needed him? BusterD (talk) 20:30, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
File:Inside Higher Ed logo.png
Hello! You deleted a revision of File:Inside Higher Ed logo.png under WP:F5. However, I believe that this image qualifies for {{PD-textlogo}}, and as such is in the public domain. Would you be able to undelete the revision? Thanks! HouseBlastertalk 19:15, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
- Sorry for the delay - all done! ♠PMC♠ (talk) 06:24, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
- No worries - WP:NODEADLINES, right? Thanks you so much! HouseBlastertalk 11:44, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Black Christian Siriano gown of Billy Porter
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Beer!
Ms. Chaos, can you please take a look at this FAC if you have the time -- Guerillero Parlez Moi 22:10, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
Paddy Pimlett
Hi PMC, you were closer of the AfD for Paddy Pimblett, one of the reasons given was that it did not meet GNG. Since then the fighter has received considerable attention in the national press, including an in depth interview in the Guardian (some examples listed below)
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/mar/20/paddy-pimblett-and-molly-mccann-light-up-london-on-thrilling-night https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/mar/19/fighting-for-liverpool-paddy-the-baddy-and-meatball-mollys-ufc-takeover https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/ufc/paddy-pimblett-baddy-ufc-interview-b2042934.html https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/other-sports/mma/paddy-pimblett-weight-loss-ufc-26818542 https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/other-sports/mma/paddy-pimblett-ufc-conor-mcgregor-26490956 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/mixed-martial-arts/58429273 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/mixed-martial-arts/60852236
What would be the procedure to get this reversed?
Boynamedsue (talk) 06:54, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
- Hey, I read Cassiopeia's response to the same question at their talk page and I generally agree with their assessment of the sources. Might be best to just wait until he passes NMMA off that UFC fight in July. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 14:43, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for the response, I think Cassiopeia's answer was pretty flawed. The Guardian and Independent articles all provide significant coverage and are impeccably reliable sources. The BBC one too. GNG is clear that sources do not have to be solely about the topic of the article if they provide significant coverage. What are the appeal procedures in this case? Boynamedsue (talk) 20:47, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
- Per GNG under the bold point "Sources," "Multiple publications from the same author or organization are usually regarded as a single source for the purposes of establishing notability." The two Guardian sources by the same author are regarded as one source for notability purposes. The Independent article is mostly an interview, which I don't weigh too heavily when it comes to notability. That being said, I'm not the be-all end-all and neither is Cass; you're free to add those sources to the draft and submit it through AfC for assessment as a normal process. (Actually on reflection, you're experienced enough as an editor that I'm comfortable telling saying that you can add the sources and move it to main from draft on your own recognizance - AfC is not actually mandatory. You run the risk of someone taking it to AfD again, of course, but that's a risk we all run with.) ♠PMC♠ (talk) 22:01, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
- Brilliant, thanks a lot for the advice. I will look at the article when I have some time over the weekend and take it from there. Boynamedsue (talk) 05:45, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
- Per GNG under the bold point "Sources," "Multiple publications from the same author or organization are usually regarded as a single source for the purposes of establishing notability." The two Guardian sources by the same author are regarded as one source for notability purposes. The Independent article is mostly an interview, which I don't weigh too heavily when it comes to notability. That being said, I'm not the be-all end-all and neither is Cass; you're free to add those sources to the draft and submit it through AfC for assessment as a normal process. (Actually on reflection, you're experienced enough as an editor that I'm comfortable telling saying that you can add the sources and move it to main from draft on your own recognizance - AfC is not actually mandatory. You run the risk of someone taking it to AfD again, of course, but that's a risk we all run with.) ♠PMC♠ (talk) 22:01, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for the response, I think Cassiopeia's answer was pretty flawed. The Guardian and Independent articles all provide significant coverage and are impeccably reliable sources. The BBC one too. GNG is clear that sources do not have to be solely about the topic of the article if they provide significant coverage. What are the appeal procedures in this case? Boynamedsue (talk) 20:47, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
DYK for Black Christian Siriano gown of Billy Porter
On 14 May 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Black Christian Siriano gown of Billy Porter, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the black Christian Siriano gown worn by actor Billy Porter was said to have "won" the 91st Academy Awards? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Black Christian Siriano gown of Billy Porter. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Black Christian Siriano gown of Billy Porter), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page. |
— Maile (talk) 00:03, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
Requesting Undeletion of AGSB University
The AGSB University page [1] that was recently deleted was wrongly deleted. The university page is not intended for any promotional means but purely for informative use. Different third-party sources were mentioned in the article of AGSB University and more have been found online. Furthermore as was mentioned in the article, the American Graduate School of Business rebranded as the "American University in Switzerland" [2] Would it be possible to restore the page and change the name to "American University in Switzerland"? Other references linking to external sources include:
- https://avdep.ch/ecole/american-university-in-switzerland/
- https://www.masterstudies.com/Master-Degree-in-International-Business-Administration/Switzerland/American-University-in-Switzerland/
- https://www.tiffin.edu/news/tu-collaborates-american-university-switzerland/
- https://www.swiss-schools.ch/en/vsp-mitglieder
- https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/american-university-switzerland
- https://www.topuniversities.com/universities/american-university-switzerland
- https://www.iata.org/en/training/courses/partner-network/american-university-in-switzerland/146052 — Preceding unsigned comment added by SwissTraveller (talk • contribs) 13:55, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
- The page was not wrongly deleted, it was deleted in accordance with consensus. It was obviously promotional and created by a user with a conflict of interest - unless you are really trying to tell me User:Austeam didn't stand for "American University in Switzerland Team"? Those sources are either not reliable or not independent, so they do not constitute significant coverage for the purpose of establishing notability. I will not be undeleting the page. Finally, since you almost certainly have a conflict of interest yourself, if you intend to continue editing this topic, please go read the COI policy I linked earlier in this comment and make the appropriate declaration on your user page. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 20:56, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
References
Your GA nomination of Armadillo shoe
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DYK for Armadillo shoe
On 22 May 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Armadillo shoe, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that fashion journalists joked that it was "a miracle" that no models fell while walking the runway in the 12-inch (30 cm) armadillo shoes designed in 2010 by Alexander McQueen? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Armadillo shoe. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Armadillo shoe), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page. |
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Hook update | ||
Your hook reached 8,336 views (694.7 per hour), making it one of the most viewed hooks of May 2022 – nice work! |
theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 04:53, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Armadillo shoe
The article Armadillo shoe you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Armadillo shoe for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Trainsandotherthings -- Trainsandotherthings (talk) 11:21, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
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Precious anniversary
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:05, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for the reminder Gerda! Cheers! :) ♠PMC♠ (talk) 22:04, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you today for Black Christian Siriano gown of Billy Porter (below), introduced: "Actor Billy Porter's star had been rising since his 2018 breakout role in Pose. He spent the 2018/2019 awards season tearing up the red carpet, culminating in the two fashion moments that stamped his name on fashion history for good: the silver suit with fuchsia-lined cape worn at the 2019 Golden Globes, followed up by the black velvet tuxedo ball gown he wore to the 2019 Oscars. The tuxedo gown is widely regarded as a groundbreaking moment in Oscars history – he is the first man to have worn a gown on the red carpet – and it remains one of Porter's most memorable looks."! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:46, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks Gerda Arendt! I had a lot of fun writing this one. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 06:48, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you today for Black Christian Siriano gown of Billy Porter (below), introduced: "Actor Billy Porter's star had been rising since his 2018 breakout role in Pose. He spent the 2018/2019 awards season tearing up the red carpet, culminating in the two fashion moments that stamped his name on fashion history for good: the silver suit with fuchsia-lined cape worn at the 2019 Golden Globes, followed up by the black velvet tuxedo ball gown he wore to the 2019 Oscars. The tuxedo gown is widely regarded as a groundbreaking moment in Oscars history – he is the first man to have worn a gown on the red carpet – and it remains one of Porter's most memorable looks."! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:46, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
Promotion of Black Christian Siriano gown of Billy Porter
Congratulations, Premeditated Chaos! The article you nominated, Black Christian Siriano gown of Billy Porter, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best articles on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured article. Keep up the great work! Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) via FACBot (talk) 00:05, 30 May 2022 (UTC) |
Del.
It was not closed and someone removed the edit. The discussion is now closed. It is improper to removed edits from talk pages as you know.Pictureperfect2 (talk) 03:44, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
- Pictureperfect2, the history of the page clearly indicates that the closure was made on May 28 and your edit was dated May 30. This is the state of the page prior to your edit: [7]. Please explain to me how that discussion does not look closed to you. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 05:29, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
- Didn't mean to edit it after it closed. Is three days usually how long a discussion lasts?Pictureperfect2 (talk) 07:32, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
- If you didn't mean to edit it after it was closed, fine, but don't accuse people of censorship and improper behavior when they correct your error. As for the length of the discussion, it's a bit atypical, but the consensus was overwhelming. Discussions can be closed early if they don't have a snowball's chance in hell of going another way - see WP:SNOW. If you have an issue with Sdkb's close, you are free to discuss it with them, or to take it to deletion review to ask for it to be reopened, but given how clear the consensus was, I don't think it will be. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 07:41, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
- Didn't mean to edit it after it closed. Is three days usually how long a discussion lasts?Pictureperfect2 (talk) 07:32, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
The four award for you!
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Congratulations! You have been awarded the Four Award for your work from beginning to end on the Black Christian Siriano gown of Billy Porter. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 16:48, 31 May 2022 (UTC) |
. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 16:48, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
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Triple Crowns
Indian census
I see that you have noticed the the page that used to work is no longer there. I was pointed to this page instead, but I'm afraid I forget by whom. It doesn't seem to have as much information as the old page, but is still useful as it's part of the official census site. Phil Bridger (talk) 20:27, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
- Hm, that is useful in terms of checking the existence of places, but as those results can't be individually cited the way the original census site could, it's not of that much help for our referencing articles. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 22:44, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
Eucalyptus × tinghaensis
Hello Premeditated Chaos,
Thanks for your work on this. Afraid we have an edit conflict, and I am going to overwrite your change to the article. I've added a bit more to the article, and can't find any mention of the hybrid at the "WetlandInfo" new website. Hammer me if you think I'm wrong about this. (Agree with your add to the Eucalyptus caliginosa article.) Gderrin (talk) 22:25, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- Nah, I'm no expert, I just toddle around de-orphaning taxonomy articles because they're usually easy targets :) Your edits are much more thorough than mine. Cheers! ♠PMC♠ (talk) 22:39, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
removal of episode list
Hi there, I'm still fairly new here (although this account is a sockpuppet for safety/privacy reasons). You removed a section I added here:[8] as WP:NOTDIRECTORY. (I re-added without realizing, when I couldn't figure out why my simultaneous edit wasn't saving, and haven't had time to respond until now, sorry.)
I don't understand the issue with the (tidy and organized, I think) list of related podcast episodes. All episodes listed are directly related to the disappearance of this girl (20 years ago, next week). Wikipedia has plenty of lists of episodes of things. The list is non-exhaustive; only some of the more notable, relevant contributions to public information about the case. Each one included provides further useful information to the reader. I could rewrite it in paragraph form listing the points of view and information from each episode but it would be more difficult to read.
Podcasts are especially relevant to this girl's disappearance since popularity of podcasts have driven the police to take action on the case after 18 years, leading to more ground searches[1], and the worldwide popularity of these podcasts are likely to lead to further action and/or expose a lack of investigative response. Podcasts also led to a large reward being offered on the case.[2] Inclusion of an episode list on Wikipedia will surely further increase the attention to the case... maybe leading to the case being solved and a murderer being convicted... this is especially important right now at this 20 year milestone as the case is about to get a lot more attention.
Also, maybe you could give me a break? Maybe I'm pushing the standards a bit on formatting and such but it's for a good cause and the article is likely to have an impact, and hurts nobody except, potentially, those responsible for the girl's disappearance (which could also lead to positive publicity for Wikipedia). I'll assume I'm okay to re-add the section now, especially since it's time-sensitive due to upcoming events and attention to the case. Any advice or edits you have on how to make the article easier to read while still including all important information) would be appreciated.
Thanks for your time in keeping Wikipedia tidy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ArielMais (talk • contribs)
- Going to copy this to the talk page of the article where I started the discussion so any other article watchers will be able to see it. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 00:43, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
References
- ^ Holmes, Ian. "Podcast breathes new life into historic case of missing Nanaimo woman". NanaimoNewsNOW. Retrieved 2022-05-30.
- ^ "Large reward offered for information about Lisa Marie Young". CHEK. 2022-02-02. Retrieved 2022-04-28.
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Naomi de Ruiter
Hi, was wondering if you would consider restoring Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Naomi de Ruiter to draftspace? The author has a book coming out later this month and I think there's a good chance will meet gng following the book's release. I don't want to lose all the citations I found previously. Thank you for your consideration! GreenVolvox (talk) 21:35, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
- Done, see Draft:Naomi_de_Ruiter. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 22:09, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks! GreenVolvox (talk) 00:04, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
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Promotion of Armadillo shoe
Congratulations, Premeditated Chaos! The article you nominated, Armadillo shoe, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best articles on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured article. Keep up the great work! Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) via FACBot (talk) 00:05, 11 July 2022 (UTC) |
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Air Force Integrated Residential Housing, Mazandaran
It appears that this housing may have been associated with Iran Air Force heaquarters or Mehrabad International Airport/air base, which is very much joint civil-military (there are fighter squadrons operating out of that airport). Tehran Province is square against Mazandaran Province. It may be a candidate for merger to the Mehrabad article if there were sources provided. Were there sources provided? Buckshot06 (talk) 03:03, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
- Just this, and it doesn't tell you much more than what's in the article: "Census of the Islamic Republic of Iran, 1385 (2006)" (Excel). Statistical Center of Iran. Archived from the original on 2011-11-11.. I don't think it's safe to assume without better sourcing. (You'll have to search for "مجتمع مكانهائ مسكوني نيروئ هوائي") ♠PMC♠ (talk) 03:18, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
Black Christian Siriano gown of Billy Porter scheduled for TFA
This is to let you know that the above article has been scheduled as today's featured article for 8 August 2022. Please check that the article needs no amendments. Feel free to amend the draft blurb, which can be found at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/August 8, 2022, or to make comments on other matters concerning the scheduling of this article at Wikipedia talk:Today's featured article/August 2022. I suggest that you watchlist Wikipedia:Main Page/Errors from the day before this appears on Main Page. Thanks and congratulations on your work. Gog the Mild (talk) 19:39, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
Vandalism on Blue Gucci dress of Harry Styles
Hello! sorry, I am still inexperienced so I thought I'd put this here. Lily32241 who is editing on Blue Gucci dress of Harry Styles has a long history of following me around and deleting content related to politically charged or ambiguous issues surrounding Harry Styles, particularly queerness but also in this example all references to race. It's like the only substantial edits she makes outside of charts. Is there a way I can find an admin who has knowledge of Styles and the conversation around him? I have had the experience before of an admin not understanding a lot of conversations around him are very charged. H-influenzae (talk) 12:47, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
Four Award
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Congratulations! You have been awarded the Four Award for your work from beginning to end on Armadillo shoe. — Bilorv (talk) 19:28, 17 July 2022 (UTC) |
Student Organization of Nairobi University
Hey, PMC,
I was looking over today's AFD discussion log and noticed that this article has already been recreated since the time you deleted it this morning. I've tagged it CSD G4 but sometimes G4s can sit around for a long time before they are reviewed so I thought I'd tell you. Hope you are beating the heat these days! Liz Read! Talk! 23:10, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
- Soman's attitude towards deletion pisses me off - "unfounded discussion" indeed. They could have commented there if they liked, pushed for a HEYMANN, but instead they pull a snarky stunt like that. However, it's not eligible for G4 - the material in the new version is substantively different from the deleted version. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 23:17, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2022 July 17
Hey, PMC,
I'm surprised to see you close AFD discussions that haven't been relisted and don't hit their 7 day mark until tomorrow. I know there are some admins who close discussions an hour or two early but I usually only see a whole day early when I wander over to TFD where they seem to close deletion discussions whenever the mood strikes them, 7 day waiting period be damned. Just a little surprised. But considering that I was almost alone checking the AFD log for July 16th, I'm glad to see other admins closing discussions. Project space on Wikipedia seems to empty out on the weekends.
Hope you are staying cool this weekend, wherever you are at. It's been okay here but it supposed to get over 100F next week. Liz Read! Talk! 04:59, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
- Oh oops, my timestamps were showing nomination 7 days ago, and usually XfDcloser kicks up a fuss if it thinks you're closing something early. Well, consensus for the ones I closed was pretty clear so hopefully that's not a problem for anyone.
- We had a little rain the other day but it's supposed to be hotter this week (blegh). Cheers! ♠PMC♠ (talk) 05:30, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
GANs
Hi. Would you GA review Federico Gatti and Fabio Miretti? I had nominated them in April but they haven't been seen yet. Dr Salvus 16:18, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- Sorry, I have very little interest in football and footballers. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 16:48, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
DYK for Floe Edge
On 29 July 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Floe Edge, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the presentation of Inuit fashion items made from sealskin at contemporary art exhibition Floe Edge was called "an upraised Inuit middle finger" to anti–seal hunting activists? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Floe Edge. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Floe Edge), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page. |
Gatoclass (talk) 12:03, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
Undeletion Request For Jeremy Konner
Hi in 2017 you deleted Jeremy Konner for notability concerns Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jeremy Konner. I believe it should now be reinstated because "significant new information has come to light." He's been nominated for seven primetime Emmys, six for producing and one for directing the show he co-created and directed, Drunk History which ran for 6 seasons. He recently created and directed the Netflix children's TV show Waffles + Mochi produced by the Barack and Michelle Obama and starring former first lady Michelle Obama. Here is Konner's IMDB (which I know is not a good enough source, will link to better sources below)
Full disclosure, yes I know Konner which would mean a COI, however, I am just trying to reinstate the page now that many years have passed and significant new information has come to light.
Drunk History:
- https://www.kcrw.com/news/shows/press-play-with-madeleine-brand/drunk-history-and-one-prisoners-story-of-solitary-confinement/the-funny-world-of-drunk-history
- https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/07/23/the-healing-buzz-of-drunk-history
- https://ew.com/tv/all-the-shows-unrenewed-covid-19/
- https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/drunk-history-canceled-at-comedy-central-4048407/
Waffles + Mochi:
- https://www.indiewire.com/2021/03/waffles-mochi-review-michelle-obama-new-netflix-show-1234623642/
- https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/04/05/michelle-obamas-lesson-to-kids-you-are-what-you-watch
- https://www.newsweek.com/waffles-mochi-netflix-michelle-obama-show-1576365
- https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2021/03/waffles-and-mochi-michelle-obama-netflix
Emmys:
- https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/emmys-2020-nominations-complete-list-1234715939/
- https://www.emmys.com/bios/jeremy-konner
[List of linked Wiki pages removed as they are meaningless clutter when assessing notability] LimabeanJK (talk) 17:35, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
- Not a single one of those sources goes into any depth about Konner as a person, so I will not be undeleting at this time. (I have removed the list of wiki pages as it is meaningless when assessing notability, and cluttered the page pointlessly). ♠PMC♠ (talk) 19:10, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
Undeletion of Jonathan Henick
Hi there, I saw that you deleted the page for Jonathan Henick, an American diplomat. Considering that he is now the Senate-confirmed ambassador to Uzbekistan, I thought that it would be a good time to bring it back. Obviously, more sources can be added as time goes on, so if you can bring the page back that would be great. If not, I can just make a new one if its easier. Thank you in advance for your response. Losipov (talk) 20:35, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
- Ambassadors are not default notable under WP:NPOL. I'm not overturning a clear and recent delete consensus without significant coverage. If you think significant coverage is likely to be forthcoming, feel free to work on the page in draftspace at Draft:Jonathan Henick. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 20:42, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Eight-ball jacket
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Eight-ball jacket you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of The Most Comfortable Chair -- The Most Comfortable Chair (talk) 04:41, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
TFA
Congratulations on having the Black Christian Siriano gown of Billy Porter article on the front page! Aoba47 (talk) 16:55, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks Aoba! Next stop, Cher at the 1986 Oscars, if I can get back around to it :) ♠PMC♠ (talk) 23:17, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Eight-ball jacket
The article Eight-ball jacket you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Eight-ball jacket for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of The Most Comfortable Chair -- The Most Comfortable Chair (talk) 04:20, 13 August 2022 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Eight-ball jacket
The article Eight-ball jacket you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Eight-ball jacket for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of The Most Comfortable Chair -- The Most Comfortable Chair (talk) 11:22, 13 August 2022 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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This is absolutely the most appropriate use of this barnstar — for writing eight-ball jacket. — The Most Comfortable Chair 12:58, 13 August 2022 (UTC) |