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Your comments an BN really resonate, I'm sure I am not the only one who has felt the same thing. When I was working for the federal government and they had me doing something boring and repetitive, I'd remind myself how much they were paying me to do it, it was a good motivator. Here it's the opposite, I remind myself I won't get paid any less if I don't do something, and this is hobby, not a job. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:03, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks! It was really quite interesting as a personal exercise. And I'm not much of a 'personal exercise' kind of gal. :D valereee (talk) 18:18, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
I'm just glad to see you around again. Welcome back. I've been less active lately, mostly because RL has been crazy, good crazy but crazy. But some of what you describe is also a part. Take care! 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 19:08, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
- Yep. Also good stress is still stress. :) Thanks! valereee (talk) 19:18, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
- I'll join 78 and Beeblebrox in welcoming you back. Barkeep49 (talk) 22:31, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
- Late to the party - I missed the BN request, but I'm glad to have you back in the corps. Girth Summit (blether) 11:38, 21 July 2022 (UTC)]
Happy to see you with the bit again V! I'm glad I saw this before I posted the "you accidentally commented in the admin-only section of an AE request" comment that brought me here. It's always heartening to see someone re-find joy in the project. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 15:58, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- It is absolutely not out of the question that I would have inadvertently done something like that. :D Valereee (talk) 17:06, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
Mentorship for The C of E?
I see that you've already closed The C of E's t-ban appeal. I wasn't able to suggest it in the topic ban discussion itself, but I was brainstorming if it was possible that The C of E could submit himself to some form of mentorship (I'm not sure exactly what would be its nature). Like, maybe if he wanted to go back to DYK, he could have some kind of mentor that would guide him and ensure that the reservations some editors had (myself included) over the possibility of boundary pushing would not happen? Like, maybe he could have co-nominators or collaborators for every DYK nomination he could have? I don't know if it would be a feasible idea, I was just brainstorming. What do you think? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 22:48, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
- Hey, @Narutolovehinata5! I do think CofE could benefit from a mentorship, and I think they would be open to it. Valereee (talk) 00:24, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks. Do you have any idea how such a mentorship could work? Given that the topic ban lifting discussion was just closed, I don't think now is the right time for him to ask on WP:AN again, but I wonder if it's possible that in the meantime, some kind of workshopping on what to do is possible. Pinging The C of E so that he sees this and gives input on possible mentorship options. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:27, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- Mentorship is so fraught. Many experienced editors see it as simply farce, a way to protect someone from a block or ban. CofE probably shouldn't respond here, it's possible the 'broadly construed' would be interpreted as kicking in on someone else's talk, they should probably only discuss on their own. Valereee (talk) 00:37, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: I would be happy to do to that. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 15:49, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- Mentorship is so fraught. Many experienced editors see it as simply farce, a way to protect someone from a block or ban. CofE probably shouldn't respond here, it's possible the 'broadly construed' would be interpreted as kicking in on someone else's talk, they should probably only discuss on their own. Valereee (talk) 00:37, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks. Do you have any idea how such a mentorship could work? Given that the topic ban lifting discussion was just closed, I don't think now is the right time for him to ask on WP:AN again, but I wonder if it's possible that in the meantime, some kind of workshopping on what to do is possible. Pinging The C of E so that he sees this and gives input on possible mentorship options. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:27, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
Thanks
Thanks for your calm explanation on User talk:Holomatrix. I was thinking on the best way to try and explain the situation, but you said it better than I could have. Just wanted to give you a personalized thanks along with the impersonal "thank" button thanks. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:48, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
July thanks
Thank you for what you told Martinevans123. He said I'm the flowers personified, and I wish I'd live up to it more. - I'm doing many things besides Wikipedia and have pics from vacation days to offer, of heights and lows. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:49, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
the lowercase signature club
we shall miss you :) theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 17:16, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- lol...I had someone break a ping because they hadn't learned yet that they need to check what the actual sig was. :D I felt like that was a good enough reason to just make the sig=the username. Valereee (talk) 18:27, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
Women in Red August 2022
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New editor
Aren't you interested in articles about food and wine? I mention, because I just ran across a new user who is interested in, well you can see it on her User:Leslie Love Stone. I don't know what projects to refer her to on those subjects, but I think you might. This new user looks like they might become a really interesting Wikipedia editor. — Maile (talk) 01:54, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
- hahahaha...I'm already in discussion with her at Draft talk:DAOU Family Estates, which I was reviewing at AfC. :D Thanks for thinking of me, and yes, I'm always interested in helping a new editor who wants to work in Category: Food and drink. Valereee (talk) 13:32, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
BRD
Hey, I started to add this to the Gaetz article but then thought it might sound condescending there. As that wasn't my intent I'll say it here. Thank you for illustrating how we should follow BRD! I think I'm right but certainly if I'm wrong I should be challenged on the talk page. It may sound odd but I really appreciate that you did that because too often I feel like the cycle is "Editor A adds, Editor B reverts, A adds again and then B finally opens up a discussion. Your polite disagreement really is nice and I appreciate it even if we disagree. Springee (talk) 13:49, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Springee, thank you for the kind words! Right back atcha! Valereee (talk) 14:28, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
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re: this. He wasn't exactly a prolific writer, and I'd go as far to say that at this point it isn't even a loss, much of what he created could have been done by a bot or a 5 year old. Few if any of his creations were more than 2 sentences long (which is part of the issue itself) so I think perhaps he's fibbing about the copyvio. PRAXIDICAE🌈 20:24, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
- I know. I should just shut up. But introducing intentional errors? Jeez. From my point of view that means they were never here to build an encyclopedia. And, yes, after that? I don't consider it a loss at all. I was trying to be sympathetic and even hoped there wouldn't be a site ban. Now? Good riddance. I can forgive copyvio -- hell, I think WMF should be paying for finding and fixing that -- but anyone who would introduce intentional errors under any circumstances is not someone I'd ever welcome back. Period. That bridge is burned. Valereee (talk) 20:33, 1 August 2022 (UTC)