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July 24
File:Joe Born Headshot.png.jpg
- File:Joe Born Headshot.png.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by JoeBorn ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Doesn't seem to be a selfie of uploader and seems doubtful that the uploader is Joe Born himself --Minorax«¦talk¦» 08:47, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
- Keep I don't see any evidence of this person being JB himself nor of this photo being inappropriate (i.e. copyrighted). Images appear to match the appropriate person. The user name may simply be a fan. Buffs (talk) 16:00, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
- Delete. The uploader's userpage and the information on Joe Born indicate that he is indeed the operator of this account. In any case, based on his other upload File:Joe Born.png, which was a head shot of Born in a tiny icon resolution, I do not have faith in the uploader's claim that this is own work. ✗plicit 12:53, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
File:Francisco Medavog 2007.jpg
- File:Francisco Medavog 2007.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Medavog ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Orphaned user photo, no foreseeable encyclopedic use. This is the uploader's last surviving contribution. ✗plicit 09:47, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
File:Densha de Go 64, Controller by Taito for N64.JPG
- File:Densha de Go 64, Controller by Taito for N64.JPG (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Floppydog66 ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
This is an own photograph by the uploader themselves. I think just the controller and pocket watch would be sufficient, as the box art is not needed as being redundant to one already on the article. Maybe someone can contact the uploader to release the image under free licence, but check if {{Photo of art}}
or de minimis applies. Stylez995 (talk) 18:41, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
- Keep everything here is largely utilitarian, IMHO, not artistic. For ANY artistic points, de minimis clearly/completely applies Buffs (talk) 16:05, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
July 23
Singapore dollar images
- File:SGD 2 Polymer b.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Chiangkaishektwnroc ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:SGD 5 Polymer f.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Chiangkaishektwnroc ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:SGD 5 Polymer b.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Chiangkaishektwnroc ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:SGD 10 Polymer f.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Chiangkaishektwnroc ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:SGD 10 Polymer b.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Chiangkaishektwnroc ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:SGD 50 Paper f.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Chiangkaishektwnroc ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:SGD 50 Paper b.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Chiangkaishektwnroc ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:SGD 100 Paper f.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Chiangkaishektwnroc ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:SGD 100 Paper b.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Chiangkaishektwnroc ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:SGD 1000 Paper f.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Chiangkaishektwnroc ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:SGD 1000 Paper b.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Chiangkaishektwnroc ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:SGD 10000 Paper b.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Chiangkaishektwnroc ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
No commentary on these specific notes on Singapore dollar, does not comply with WP:NFCC#8. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 22:37, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
- There is Singapore Portrait Series currency notes which the images would do well to increase the understanding of the printed notes. – robertsky (talk) 07:57, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
- Robertsky, that article actually contains commentary on some specific notes. Feel free to add images there (where appropriate, so not in the table) and add a fair use rationale to the associated file description page(s) for that article. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 20:00, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Alexis Jazz I have updated the article and added a fair use rationale to the associated file description page(s). Is this sufficient? – robertsky (talk) 14:50, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
- Robertsky, sorry for the late response. Thank you for working on Singapore Portrait Series currency notes. So after taking a closer look at the article I don't think the reverse of any of the notes is needed there as there is no critical commentary on that part as required by Wikipedia:Non-free content. For most notes the only sources relevant to the note are http://www.mas.gov.sg/currency/currency_info/notes/portrait_series/ (which is a primary source, likely doesn't count as critical commentary) and "The Presidential Notes – Field Book : President Yusof bin Ishak and the Portrait Notes" by Stella Koh "for BCCS" which is the Board of Commissioners of Currency Singapore which redirects to Monetary Authority of Singapore. Only the descriptions for the $10 and $10,000 notes have a source other than those two.
I added a composite image to the top for identification (which also includes the $10 note) and left the $10,000 note front image in Singapore Portrait Series currency notes#$10,000 banknote but removed the rest. I think the composite image is actually better as it also demonstrates the difference in size. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 11:48, 28 July 2022 (UTC)- @Alexis Jazz I have no objections to the changes. :) – robertsky (talk) 16:18, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- Robertsky, sorry for the late response. Thank you for working on Singapore Portrait Series currency notes. So after taking a closer look at the article I don't think the reverse of any of the notes is needed there as there is no critical commentary on that part as required by Wikipedia:Non-free content. For most notes the only sources relevant to the note are http://www.mas.gov.sg/currency/currency_info/notes/portrait_series/ (which is a primary source, likely doesn't count as critical commentary) and "The Presidential Notes – Field Book : President Yusof bin Ishak and the Portrait Notes" by Stella Koh "for BCCS" which is the Board of Commissioners of Currency Singapore which redirects to Monetary Authority of Singapore. Only the descriptions for the $10 and $10,000 notes have a source other than those two.
- @Alexis Jazz I have updated the article and added a fair use rationale to the associated file description page(s). Is this sufficient? – robertsky (talk) 14:50, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
- Keep, as the images have relevance at Singapore Portrait Series currency notes now. – robertsky (talk) 09:58, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- Robertsky, that article actually contains commentary on some specific notes. Feel free to add images there (where appropriate, so not in the table) and add a fair use rationale to the associated file description page(s) for that article. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 20:00, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
File:Apple Macintosh Desktop.png
- File:Apple Macintosh Desktop.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Chmod007 ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Does this actually reach c:COM:TOO US? Otherwise it can be relicensed as {{PD-ineligible}} or any other PD template. Jonteemil (talk) 22:57, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
- Jonteemil, I'm not sure I'd be comfortable declaring that PD-ineligible. Most individual elements would possibly be fine, but as a whole? I suppose this would be mostly about the apple in the top-left corner, the trash icon, the finder/system/etc computer icon and the SysVersion icon. And as the source is unknown, the placement of the windows (and which windows to show) could be considered a creative element as well. It would be a thin copyright, but I don't think I'm personally going to tag it as ineligible. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 23:08, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
- The designs of the icons are very simple, using US standards. Below TOO for me but unknown what a court would rule.Jonteemil (talk) 23:25, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
- Jonteemil, for the icons individually you're likely right, but does the thing as a whole amount to something greater? Another question could be that of whether elements are utilitarian, I think a basic scrollbar for example arguably is. Maybe Clindberg would have some interesting thoughts on this. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 06:15, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
- I'd have to think some of those icons would qualify for copyright. Maybe they appeared in an advertisement without copyright notice before 1989, and lost their copyright that way, though we'd have to show that, and perhaps a registration on the software may have kept copyright anyways. I would have to guess it's above the threshold, but remains fine for fair use, so can't see a reason to delete it. Carl Lindberg (talk) 15:20, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Carl Lindberg: No one wants it deleted. The discussion is about whether or not the file is copyrightable.Jonteemil (talk) 16:40, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Clindberg: "Maybe they appeared in an advertisement without copyright notice before 1989, and lost their copyright that way"
- You mean like these: [1] [2] [3]? All of the elements in this screenshot are in these ads. Buffs (talk) 18:56, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
- That would be the only argument for PD, to me -- that was subject to the conditions in 17 USC 405, to keep copyright. There likely was a copyright registration of the software which may cover the icons, but the other condition for keeping copyright may be arguable that Apple did not do. It would only be the icons which are in those ads, of course. Carl Lindberg (talk) 22:38, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Carl Lindberg: No one wants it deleted. The discussion is about whether or not the file is copyrightable.Jonteemil (talk) 16:40, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
- I'd have to think some of those icons would qualify for copyright. Maybe they appeared in an advertisement without copyright notice before 1989, and lost their copyright that way, though we'd have to show that, and perhaps a registration on the software may have kept copyright anyways. I would have to guess it's above the threshold, but remains fine for fair use, so can't see a reason to delete it. Carl Lindberg (talk) 15:20, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
- Jonteemil, for the icons individually you're likely right, but does the thing as a whole amount to something greater? Another question could be that of whether elements are utilitarian, I think a basic scrollbar for example arguably is. Maybe Clindberg would have some interesting thoughts on this. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 06:15, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
- The designs of the icons are very simple, using US standards. Below TOO for me but unknown what a court would rule.Jonteemil (talk) 23:25, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
- I'll be bold and say keep as PD I don't see the elements as anything beyond utilitarian, ergo, they don't have copyright for a screenshot any more than the headlights of a car or a wiring setup. However, I'm willing to be swayed. Buffs (talk) 15:53, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
- Amended: icons in this image are PD as they lost copyright via their use in multiple advertisements as annotated above. The software itself probably retains copyright as a whole, but not these images. Buffs (talk) 17:26, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- Buffs, I also found a bunch of ads at https://www.cnet.com/pictures/the-early-years-of-apple-ads-pictures/. But I can't find the "computer" icon. (trash and sysversion are in the 1984 Macintosh Spread #2 ad) — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 19:57, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- I don't see that it was ever registered as copyrighted. As it would be a work published in the U.S. between 1978 and March 1, 1989, without a copyright notice, and where the copyright was not later registered, I don't see that passing copyright and it's PD regardless of functionality. Buffs (talk) 04:51, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- No doubt the software was registered for copyright. You don't have to register copyright for every single illustration in your book for them to be copyrighted. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 05:13, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- Correct, but misleading. At least 3 people here feel it wouldn't meet the TOO. Additionally, one could argue de minimis as they are simply icons, and the GUI is what is being illustrated. FWIW, I don't see a copyright registry for the software. While it might have existed at the time, if it did, it appears to have lapsed and there is no record of it at the copyright office. At the time, software copyright was a bit of a nebulous concept. Buffs (talk) 22:55, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- No doubt the software was registered for copyright. You don't have to register copyright for every single illustration in your book for them to be copyrighted. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 05:13, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- I don't see that it was ever registered as copyrighted. As it would be a work published in the U.S. between 1978 and March 1, 1989, without a copyright notice, and where the copyright was not later registered, I don't see that passing copyright and it's PD regardless of functionality. Buffs (talk) 04:51, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- Buffs, I also found a bunch of ads at https://www.cnet.com/pictures/the-early-years-of-apple-ads-pictures/. But I can't find the "computer" icon. (trash and sysversion are in the 1984 Macintosh Spread #2 ad) — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 19:57, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- Amended: icons in this image are PD as they lost copyright via their use in multiple advertisements as annotated above. The software itself probably retains copyright as a whole, but not these images. Buffs (talk) 17:26, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Buffs: What do you mean with keep? This is not a delete or keep situation, more like a relicense-as-free or remain-non-free situation.Jonteemil (talk) 21:34, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
- Buffs, the icons aren't utilitarian, they serve no function in and of themselves. (unlike a scrollbar or window border) They could be replaced with words, for example. Whether they are sufficiently detailed to be eligible for copyright protection in the US is another matter, but if Clindberg says "yes" I'm going with that and say we should keep this as fair use. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 22:27, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
- Indeed they are utilitarian. A folder or an image of a computer lets you know what clicking it will do. It is no different than an arrow or a bar. That's not to say an icon CANNOT attain copyright, merely "not these". Buffs (talk) 15:00, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
- Buffs, arrows and bars can also be eligible for copyright depending on their detail. A scrollbar or window border can't be replaced by words but arrows and icons can. Their function is merely to convey information. Scrollbars and window borders can also be eligible for copyright if sufficiently detailed, but their basic form is utilitarian. See this essay for some examples.
What you are arguing is that these icons are below the threshold of originality for copyright. I initially thought that could be the case, but Clindberg said no and I trust Clindberg's judgment on this subject. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 17:14, 26 July 2022 (UTC)- Why don't you just let me make my own arguments instead, k? I never argued the icons were below TOO. I said they were utilitarian (which is a completely different argument). A car, for example, cannot be copyrighted because it is a utilitarian object. The same applies to a lightbulb, a headlight, or even a screwdriver. They easily pass the "Sweat of the brow" and "creative element" threshold, but still aren't eligible for copyright because they are utilitarian in nature. If your argument is "because I agree with Clindberg", I can't argue against that.
- "arrows and bars can also be eligible for copyright depending on their detail"[citation needed] I'll save you some time: no they can't. If you disagree, show us an example.
- "Scrollbars and window borders can also be eligible for copyright if sufficiently detailed"[citation needed] Again, no they can't. If you disagree, show us an example.
- "their basic form is utilitarian", which is my point. Your argument that a scroll bar or window is utilitarian because they have a function is the same reason I'm saying that an icon has the exact same parameters and works in the same way.
- Please don't conflate separate points (especially points I didn't make). Buffs (talk) 18:47, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
- Buffs,
Why don't you just let me make my own arguments instead, k? I never argued the icons were below TOO. I said they were utilitarian (which is a completely different argument).
K, if you insist. In that case you're just plain wrong.I'll save you some time: no they can't. If you disagree, show us an example.
VA0000021022, VAu001442705, VA0000677356, VA0000019446, VAu000302328, VAu000012646, VAu000415048, VA0001077782Again, no they can't. If you disagree, show us an example.
1. Draw a cool snake 2. Use it as a scrollbarsame reason I'm saying that an icon has the exact same parameters and works in the same way
Icons merely convey information, they are not functional. The only possible argument for them not being copyrightable is when they don't exceed the threshold of originality. (or the creator lives in Somalia)
- Can you please specify what VA0000021022, etc are?
- Icons are indeed functional. You click them and something happens. Buffs (talk) 05:44, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- 1. Registration numbers.
2. No. You describe a button. You can't copyright the concept of a button, you can't copyright most physical button shapes (like round, square, triangle, etc), but you certainly can copyright the picture you stick on the button. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 05:51, 27 July 2022 (UTC)- All the copyrights you mention are something else, not a simple directional arrow
- VAu001442705 - "arrow and 3 Other Unpublished Works" Appears to be a collection of works which INCLUDES something described as "arrow", but offers no actual description
- VA0000677356 - Art design for fabric named arrow
- VA0000019446 - Baby under construction : [no.] 350321; Description: Col. print ; iron-on transfer. Notes: Stylized arrow pointing downward, decorative lettering.
- VAu000302328 - Southwest stylized arrow design collection--12 designs. Metal sculptures.
- VA0000021022 - print of a stylized arrow in flight
- VAu000012646 - Sculpture. 2 stylized arrow shapes pointing in opposite directions.
- VAu000415048 - Arrow & line. Rug. Includes design drawing.
- VA0001077782 - Decorative arrow with directionals. Weathervane.
- All you did was simply search the word "arrow" without regard for what we were talking about (a simple directional arrow) and conflate it with a half dozen other things and claim equivalence when it's crystal clear they are not; you attempted to blast a half dozen examples just because they contained the word "arrow" in their title or description to include sculptures, rugs, and (apparently) medical journals. Lastly, you attempted to use jargon/ID numbers without a link that was readily accessible. You made it unnecessarily difficult and intentionally/negligently misrepresented your evidence as if it supported your conclusion...which it doesn't. By your logic, your are literally conflating this or this or this or this as equivalent with this
- I'm quite sure I understand the use of the word "icon" and what it functionally is. Ergo, an icon, by definition as being an icon, is a functional portion of a GUI and cannot attain copyright as it is. Now, the design chosen may be something that CAN attain copyright. As stated above in multiple ways, I don't see these as anything beyond a pictorial representation of what the icon does/accesses (i.e. functional). Furthermore, it's a moot point as those elements lost copyright with the aforementioned ads. Buffs (talk) 04:22, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- All the copyrights you mention are something else, not a simple directional arrow
- 1. Registration numbers.
- Buffs,
- Why don't you just let me make my own arguments instead, k? I never argued the icons were below TOO. I said they were utilitarian (which is a completely different argument). A car, for example, cannot be copyrighted because it is a utilitarian object. The same applies to a lightbulb, a headlight, or even a screwdriver. They easily pass the "Sweat of the brow" and "creative element" threshold, but still aren't eligible for copyright because they are utilitarian in nature. If your argument is "because I agree with Clindberg", I can't argue against that.
- Buffs, arrows and bars can also be eligible for copyright depending on their detail. A scrollbar or window border can't be replaced by words but arrows and icons can. Their function is merely to convey information. Scrollbars and window borders can also be eligible for copyright if sufficiently detailed, but their basic form is utilitarian. See this essay for some examples.
- Indeed they are utilitarian. A folder or an image of a computer lets you know what clicking it will do. It is no different than an arrow or a bar. That's not to say an icon CANNOT attain copyright, merely "not these". Buffs (talk) 15:00, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
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I never said you could copyright [4] in the US. (in the UK or Australia, perhaps)
I said depending on detail and your answer was an unconditional no. Actually finding an example isn't necessarily easy, just because detailed decorative arrows can be copyrighted doesn't mean anyone has to do it. A painting of a purple elephant wearing a grey tuxedo would also be eligible for copyright, but good luck finding an example to prove it.
Arrows like c:File:Greek arrow right.png or those on [5] are likely eligible for copyright. I have no idea why you would think such images (or [6]) would automatically be ineligible for copyright protection because they are arrows. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 04:48, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- You're (intentionally?) misreading what I wrote. Of course those are eligible for copyright (they are copyrighted), but they aren't what we are talking about and you know it. Tossing those in isn't what we're talking about. Buffs (talk) 14:38, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- Drawings are basically never utilitarian -- that is generally something physical that people can use directly. U.S. copyright law states: as A “useful article” is an article having an intrinsic utilitarian function that is not merely to portray the appearance of the article or to convey information. copyright.gov further states: Examples are clothing, furniture, machinery, dinnerware, and lighting fixtures. Drawings are pictorial works, and are not utilitarian. There is a threshold of originality on them, but that is the only thing you can argue with drawings being inherently PD. One exception can be components of an alphabetic or numbering system -- those glyphs are generally not considered copyrightable. That has even held true for a made-up alphabet for a made-up language in series of computer games.[7] But pictorial icons have no phonetic or numeric meaning. There is some language which prevents systems or methods of operation from being protected by copyright, as discussed in the PDF linked there, but pictorial elements seem beyond that for me. Carl Lindberg (talk) 23:14, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
- But these are NOT just drawings. You click them to activate something. Like a cursor, they are primarily utilitarian. Buffs (talk) 05:41, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- You can copyright some cursors too. The simplest cursor is just a dot, you can't copyright that. A simple arrow without any depth effect etc. would generally be covered by common symbols, thus not eligible for copyright. But take for example the bloody severed hand cursor from Carmageddon? Definitely copyrightable. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 05:58, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- I'm clearly referring to the Mac cursor. In any case, it appears to be a moot point as those icons were used in ads listed above and lost their copyright. Buffs (talk) 17:24, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- No you weren't. And "You click them to activate something." = button. And pictures don't become ineligible for copyright because they are stuck on buttons. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 04:53, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- You are (intentionally?) jumping back and forth between cursors and icons. The two are not synonymous in function. Likewise, an icon vs button is a distinction without a difference in the GUI world as an icon has both a function and an image. The question is whether an icon can attain copyright. I think it's questionable whether it can. As I said before, this is a moot point. The images in question lost copyright a few decades ago. Buffs (talk) 16:51, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
- "Likewise, an icon vs button is a distinction without a difference in the GUI world as an icon has both a function and an image."
No it doesn't. Icons (in this context) are buttons, and buttons can exist without any label/image at all. The icon/label only conveys information (see US law as quoted by Carl Lindberg) about what the button does.The question is whether an icon can attain copyright.
Tell me with a straight face that everything on [8] is ineligible for copyright. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 19:37, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
- No you weren't. And "You click them to activate something." = button. And pictures don't become ineligible for copyright because they are stuck on buttons. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 04:53, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- I'm clearly referring to the Mac cursor. In any case, it appears to be a moot point as those icons were used in ads listed above and lost their copyright. Buffs (talk) 17:24, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- You can copyright some cursors too. The simplest cursor is just a dot, you can't copyright that. A simple arrow without any depth effect etc. would generally be covered by common symbols, thus not eligible for copyright. But take for example the bloody severed hand cursor from Carmageddon? Definitely copyrightable. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 05:58, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- But these are NOT just drawings. You click them to activate something. Like a cursor, they are primarily utilitarian. Buffs (talk) 05:41, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- Drawings are basically never utilitarian -- that is generally something physical that people can use directly. U.S. copyright law states: as A “useful article” is an article having an intrinsic utilitarian function that is not merely to portray the appearance of the article or to convey information. copyright.gov further states: Examples are clothing, furniture, machinery, dinnerware, and lighting fixtures. Drawings are pictorial works, and are not utilitarian. There is a threshold of originality on them, but that is the only thing you can argue with drawings being inherently PD. One exception can be components of an alphabetic or numbering system -- those glyphs are generally not considered copyrightable. That has even held true for a made-up alphabet for a made-up language in series of computer games.[7] But pictorial icons have no phonetic or numeric meaning. There is some language which prevents systems or methods of operation from being protected by copyright, as discussed in the PDF linked there, but pictorial elements seem beyond that for me. Carl Lindberg (talk) 23:14, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
- You're (intentionally?) misreading what I wrote. Of course those are eligible for copyright (they are copyrighted), but they aren't what we are talking about and you know it. Tossing those in isn't what we're talking about. Buffs (talk) 14:38, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- Keep as fair use. The "icons are functional" argument is obviously incorrect. Buttons are functional, whatever you print on the buttons conveys information. When it comes to the threshold of originality I defer to Clindberg, and Clindberg says "I'd have to think some of those icons would qualify for copyright". Some (but possibly not all) may have lost their copyright due to appearances in ads, but the software itself presumably was copyrighted, so I'm not sure what that means in the end. Way too much uncertainty here. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 11:57, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
July 11
File:Isfahan government logo.svg
- File:Isfahan government logo.svg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Gire 3pich2005 ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
This is a logo of a municipality in Iran, and commons:Commons:Copyright rules by territory/Iran implies that copyrighs of legal persons lapse after 30 years and the Municipality of Isfahan is considerably older than that, so it's likely that the copyright lapsed. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 15:23, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
- Jo-Jo Eumerus, and what about the US? (might pass as PD-ineligible, not sure) See Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2021 January 1#File:Semnan Damghan train collision.jpg for another example of an image from Iran: PD-US does not automatically apply. @4nn1l2: any thoughts? — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 16:03, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
- My impression was that with Iranian works or other countries which don't have copyright relations with the US, we use their domestic copyright laws per Wikipedia:Public domain#Countries without copyright treaties with the US. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 17:48, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
- This can be hosted at Commons. According to this source the logo has been designed in 1991 (1370 SH) by Morteza Momayez. I don't give a damn what the US government says about the Iranian works. 4nn1l2 (talk) 18:54, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
- Respectfully, since the governing laws of Wikipedia (where the servers are hosted) prevail, US law needs to be considered. Buffs (talk) 07:50, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
- Not at Commons. We don't do URAA deletions at Commons. As I said, this work can be transferred to Commons. It's safer there than here, I suppose. 4nn1l2 (talk) 17:08, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
- Buffs, legally speaking there's no problem as Iran is not a member of the Berne Convention so any content from Iran is fair game in the US. This could change if Iran becomes a Berne Convention member in the future. Wiki policy is different.
I was slightly confused though, Jo-Jo Eumerus is right that if the copyright has already expired in Iran it's fine. File:Semnan Damghan train collision.jpg is indeed a different situation. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 17:26, 12 July 2022 (UTC)- My comment is strictly in relation to "I don't give a damn what the US government says about the Iranian works." My point is that we have to consider what the US gov't's take is on this. As you stated, they are not party to the Berne Convention, so their works are not protected. Likewise, that could change. Accordingly, the status of their copyrights in the US is dependent upon Iran's status with regard to copyright protections in the US. That was really all I was getting at. Buffs (talk) 21:42, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
- Respectfully, since the governing laws of Wikipedia (where the servers are hosted) prevail, US law needs to be considered. Buffs (talk) 07:50, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
- File:Semnan Damghan train collision.jpg is irrelevant, as it's not freely published in Iran, so it cannot be hosted at Commons. You may know that Tasnim sometimes publishes images which do not belong to the news agency. 4nn1l2 (talk) 18:58, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
- https://isfahan.ir/fa/node/38554 Baratiiman (talk) 13:58, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
- Keep/relicense as PD by virtue of PD-simple and/or age in local jurisdiction. Buffs (talk) 22:44, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
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July 25
File:Mandylauderdalere.jpg
- File:Mandylauderdalere.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Musicmakestheworldgoround ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Doubtful own work per uploader's talk page. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 09:26, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
File:Masuma Rahman Nabila Bangladeshi tv anchore.jpg
- File:Masuma Rahman Nabila Bangladeshi tv anchore.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Farshad001 ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Small, low res, no metadata. Doubtful own work. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 13:48, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
File:Chinese paddlefish paddle closeup.jpg
- File:Chinese paddlefish paddle closeup.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Hemiauchenia ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
This specific image is not needed, as it doesn't greatly improve the Chinese paddlefish to see a specific images of its organs (which are barely mentioned on this article). Thus, it fails WP:NFCC#8: Non-free content is used only if its presence would significantly increase readers' understanding of the article topic, and its omission would be detrimental to that understanding.
We have free images of the fish itself as well Joseph2302 (talk) 14:40, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
- Keep. There are almost no images of the fish itself that are not dry taxidermies, whether fresh or in fluid. It would be essentially impossible to take an equivalent non-free version of this image due to the fish now being extinct. This is a pretty obscure close-up that has little liklihood of commercial significance (as opposed to the images of the full fish lying on the shore, which have been constantly used in news articles for instance). Electroreception likely played a key role in how the fish navigates its world and found prey, so I see it as a highly significant image. Hemiauchenia (talk) 15:03, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
- Keep for now but more commentary would be useful. @Hemiauchenia:, could you add more information to both the article and the FUR? Buffs (talk) 16:08, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
File:Indigenous Language Map.jpeg
- File:Indigenous Language Map.jpeg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Watermelon42 ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Derivative work of a presumably copyrighted map. Permission from the cartographer is also required. Ixfd64 (talk) 17:17, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
- Delete I don't see this as a derivative work as much as a poor reproduction. Permission from the cartographer is not additionally required, only the copyright holder. Buffs (talk) 16:56, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
- Delete as clear copyvio. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 17:23, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
Recent nominations
July 26
File:Winx Club main characters cast.png
- File:Winx Club main characters cast.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by TheFallenPower ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Redundant to File:Winx-Club-poster-Nickelodeon.jpg for showing characters. Fails WP:NFCC#3a. Whpq (talk) 02:55, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
- Keep Not redundant. The other image shows the 3D redesigns of the characters that were introduced in Season 5 (which is why the caption says "in their 3D designs" and the page says "In 2012, new episodes of the series incorporated CGI-animated sequences that rendered the characters in 3D."). The original image shows the original 2D designs of the characters as shown in the previous seasons. It's one image for the 2D designs and one image for the 3D redesigns. TheFallenPower (talk) 13:03, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Uploader trying to explain what they're doing.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 03:12, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
- Relist comment @TheFallenPower: Can you add a reliably sourced mention of the artstyle being changed across the show's lifespan? The image could then be used to help illustrate this change. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 03:14, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
- Done, I added a source that says "The fairies have evolved from Straffi’s original hand-drawn characters, to 3D CGI iterations". TheFallenPower (talk) 18:19, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
- Keep I think an image of the final drawn characters makes sense to include. Failing to include them would do a disservice to the article; one such image is sufficient. What if we had an article about Mickey Mouse without a single picture of him? Now, the sketches done by one of the artists...I think it has SOME merit, but I'd be much more likely to delete that over this. Buffs (talk) 17:04, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
File:Martin Irigoyen Rockout.jpg
- File:Martin Irigoyen Rockout.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Zixrec ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Small, low res, no metadata. Doubtful own work. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 09:12, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nom + orphaned + other free images exist/could be made. Buffs (talk) 17:05, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
- Delete, orphaned with questionable licensing. Salavat (talk) 06:14, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
File:Hurt Business.png
- File:Hurt Business.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Vjmlhds ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Low quality and unused montage. Ixfd64 (talk) 21:24, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
- Delete we're not an image hosting service. This image, while free/PD, is not encyclopedic. Buffs (talk) 17:34, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- Delete, orphaned with no obvious value. Salavat (talk) 06:14, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
File:I Am Me (mixtape).jpg
- File:I Am Me (mixtape).jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by 2019AlwaysLit ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Unused album cover, source website does not indicate a free license. Ixfd64 (talk) 21:26, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
- Delete unless an album-specific article is created post haste...I would expect a much lower res image for such an article. It certainly isn't labeled correctly regarding copyright. Buffs (talk) 17:31, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- Delete, mislabelled non-free file that has no use in the mainspace. Salavat (talk) 06:15, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
File:KBC 12 First look.jpeg
- File:KBC 12 First look.jpeg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by DueMue ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
I cannot find a statement at the source (Amitabh Bachchan's Twitter feed) to indicate that this image is available under a CC-compatible license. Kinu t/c 21:30, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
- Delete unless a compatible/clear license is found. I see no way this could pass our NFCC otherwise. Buffs (talk) 17:33, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
July 27
File:WWE current logo.png
- File:WWE current logo.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Vjmlhds ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Low quality Imperial meter (talk) 03:59, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- But easier to see - doesn't matter the "quality" if you can't see it. White letters against a white background is hard to see. Black background makes it easier to see. If we can get the "Higher quality logo" on a black background, great. But no matter the quality, white on white doesn't work. Vjmlhds (talk) 04:07, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Vjmlhds: Such an image already exists and is in use: File:WWE current logo.png on WWE. Buffs (talk) 17:39, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- But easier to see - doesn't matter the "quality" if you can't see it. White letters against a white background is hard to see. Black background makes it easier to see. If we can get the "Higher quality logo" on a black background, great. But no matter the quality, white on white doesn't work. Vjmlhds (talk) 04:07, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- Delete: Although he has a valid point, this file is low quality and has to be removed but the SVG file exists. -Imperial meter (talk) 04:09, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- Delete This image is surpassed by the File:WWE_Black_HQ_logo.png. There is simply no need for File:WWE current logo.png as a higher res image has replaced it. Buffs (talk) 17:39, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- Since I'm the one who uploaded the Black HQ logo, the one we're discussing here is now no longer needed, so if you want to delete it, knock yourself out. Vjmlhds (talk) 17:57, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
"Fargo" images
- File:Fargo - A Fox, a Rabbit, and a Cabbage.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Hyliad ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:Fargo - A Muddy Road.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Hyliad ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:Fargo - Buridan's Ass.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Hyliad ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:Fargo - Eating the Blame.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Hyliad ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:Fargo - Morton's Fork.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Hyliad ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:Fargo - The Crocodile's Dilemma.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Hyliad ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:Fargo - The Heap.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Hyliad ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:Fargo - The Law of Vacant Places.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Hyliad ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:Fargo - The Six Ungraspables.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Hyliad ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:Fargo - Waiting for Dutch.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Hyliad ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
- File:Fargo - Who Shaves the Barber?.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Hyliad ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
These non-free images are being used in the infoboxes for episodes of Fargo. The non-free usage rationales do not state a purpose; they just describe the scene. The images's use is decorative, and the removal of the image would not detract from a reader's understanding of the article. Fails WP:NFCC#8. A person in Georgia (talk) 04:05, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- Delete all. The non-free usage rationale is a lazy boilerplate with the same vague purpose of "Key moment in the episode" for each image with no explanation as to what the key moment is. For all but The Law of Vacant Places episiode, the images are not the subject of any significant sourced commentary and are purely decorative. For the one exception, the text description does not need an image to support it so it too fails WP:NFCC#8. -- Whpq (talk) 17:26, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per Whpq. Buffs (talk) 17:40, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
File:May1.jpg
- File:May1.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Vijdee ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Doubtful own work per uploader's talk page. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 06:53, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- Delete Unused, unencyclopedic, probable copyvio. Buffs (talk) 17:42, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- Delete, orphaned with questionable licensing. Salavat (talk) 06:17, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
File:Mbb0708.jpg
- File:Mbb0708.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Ryanemaloney ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Doubtful own work per uploader's talk page. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 07:17, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- Delete Unused, unencyclopedic, probable copyvio. Buffs (talk) 17:42, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- Delete, orphaned with questionable licensing. Salavat (talk) 06:17, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
File:MBBR231.jpg
- File:MBBR231.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Hoveylu ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Small, low res, no metadata. Doubtful own work. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 07:25, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- Delete Unused, unencyclopedic, probable copyvio. Buffs (talk) 17:42, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- Delete, orphaned with questionable licensing. Salavat (talk) 06:17, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
File:MDCUltimate Trio Silver.jpg
- File:MDCUltimate Trio Silver.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Mdcohen ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Doubt these are actually own work. Seems to be taken for the purpose of advertising (see uploader's talk page). Can be replaced with files at c:Category:Stirrups. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 08:10, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- KeepYes, it very much seems to be someone who is trying to promote a product. However, DESPITE THIS PERSON'S ATTEMPT TO PUT SO MUCH IN ALL CAPS, it appears very much that he DOES own these images. As such, it appears he's released them under a compatible license. They are high quality images and I think the encyclopedia would be better off with them than without. Let's not conflate promotion of a product (a behavior of a contributor that is prohibited) with whether these images are appropriate for an encyclopedia; a typical content vs contributor argument...let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater. Buffs (talk) 17:48, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
File:MDC Comfort Trio.JPG
- File:MDC Comfort Trio.JPG (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Mdcohen ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Doubt these are actually own work. Seems to be taken for the purpose of advertising (see uploader's talk page). Can be replaced with files at c:Category:Stirrups. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 08:10, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- KeepYes, it very much seems to be someone who is trying to promote a product. However, DESPITE THIS PERSON'S ATTEMPT TO PUT SO MUCH IN ALL CAPS, it appears very much that he DOES own these images. As such, it appears he's released them under a compatible license. They are high quality images and I think the encyclopedia would be better off with them than without. Let's not conflate promotion of a product (a behavior of a contributor that is prohibited) with whether these images are appropriate for an encyclopedia; a typical content vs contributor argument...let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater. Buffs (talk) 17:49, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
File:Megaworld Lifestyle Malls Logo.svg
- File:Megaworld Lifestyle Malls Logo.svg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Moonrivers ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
The leaves are probably above the originality threshold of the Philippines. As such this should be considered as a fair use file. Unused. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 09:19, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- delete unused (purported) logo without evidence that it is the actual logo. Buffs (talk) 17:51, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- Delete, orphaned with questionable licensing. Salavat (talk) 06:20, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
File:Melina-Paez-June-2016-sm.jpg
- File:Melina-Paez-June-2016-sm.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Melinapaez ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Uploaded for Melina Paez. No other use. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 09:36, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- very weak keep I think there are some applications for it. Even though she doesn't need an article about it, there's no reason to delete it. It may become useful someday and could be uploaded/transferred to commons. Buffs (talk) 17:59, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- Delete - the photo is a portfolio type image typically taken for actors by a professional photographer. The user name implies that the uploader is the subject of the photo so the copyright claim would need confirmation. -- Whpq (talk) 02:20, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- Delete, orphaned with no obvious value. Salavat (talk) 06:21, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
File:Mendon-Honeoye Falls-Lima Sentinel.png
- File:Mendon-Honeoye Falls-Lima Sentinel.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Orca32 ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Seems complicated enough to not be considered as a {{PD-textlogo}}. i.e. Non-free. Unused. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 09:47, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- Delete No, it's definitely in the {{PD-textlogo}} realm, however I don't see it being used. Additionally, it very much seems to match the official office sign of the publication, but I don't see this as an official logo. Fan art? Practice? Sample for a client? Not sure where it would be used as it isn't an actual entity as far as I can tell. If it is, this doesn't appear to be their wordmark/logo. Buffs (talk) 18:05, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
File:Toriqul Islam Tusher.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted as G11 by Athaenara (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 14:12, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- File:Toriqul Islam Tusher.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Toriqulislamtusher9955 ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Uploaded for Toriqul Islam Tusher. No other use. Spam. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 11:10, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
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File:DAR COOCHE HAYE ESHGH.jpg
- File:DAR COOCHE HAYE ESHGH.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Ixodeth ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Small, low res, no metadata. Doubtful own work. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 12:43, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- Delete Clearly from the movie in question. Given that there is no commentary on the image/contents, it fails NFCC. Buffs (talk) 18:07, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
File:PhillyBonkers' Logo.jpeg
- File:PhillyBonkers' Logo.jpeg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by PhillyBonkers ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
It may not be an official Sponge Bob drawing but still I doubt that this is okay to be licensed as GFDL. MGA73 (talk) 13:40, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- Delete Clearly fan art which makes it a derivative work. I see no encyclopedic applications of this image and NFC cannot be used on user pages. Buffs (talk) 18:11, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- Delete, mislabelled non-free file with no obvious value. Salavat (talk) 06:22, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
File:Osabel in July 2022.jpg
- File:Osabel in July 2022.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by MyWonderfulMysteryVamps ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Uploader is asserting copyright on this image which is a graduation photo. These types of photos are normally handled by professional photo studios and the copyright would remain with them. VRT verification of copyright would be needed. Whpq (talk) 17:17, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- Delete unless VRT confirms ownership. Free images could be made. Buffs (talk) 18:08, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
July 28
File:Siniristi 1933.png
- File:Siniristi 1933.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by RKT7789 ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
This was first published in 1933, so {{PD-old}} is not valid. It is unclear if any other free license applies. ✗plicit 01:00, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- Someone on commons changed the template to one alluding to Finnish copyright expiry. This happens either 70 years after death of author, or 70 years after publishing for an anonymous work whose author did not become known within that period. In any case it seems fair use would apply here too. ;; Maddy ♥︎(they/she)♥︎ :: talk 12:48, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
File:W26CE test pattern.jpg
- File:W26CE test pattern.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Mvcg66b3r ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
This image appears to be taken from YouTube video Local TV Bandscan for Patchogue, NY with the uploader's logo at the bottom right being scrubbed off. According to his website:
My bandscan and DXing videos contain clips of copyrighted material under fair use. These videos fall under the standard YouTube license.
While a fair use could be possible (depending on whether the now defunct station allow such a use of this), an edited screengrab from a video hosted by someone else on Google Drive is likely not.
NotCory (talk) 03:45, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- Keep It might be a screen grab, but I question whether this portion/graphic is even copyrightable. It is a standard test screen with a local station's identifying on it in plain text. It's the same test scores of other stations use: [9] Buffs (talk) 15:18, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- Keep and relicense to {{PD-simple}}. Concur with Buffs that the TV station's SMPTE color bars is not eligible for copyright protection. Whpq (talk) 23:06, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
File:Armadillo heels by Alexander McQueen.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: speedy keep per WP:SK#2. Obviously a frivolous nomination. (non-admin closure) GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 18:27, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- File:Armadillo heels by Alexander McQueen.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Premeditated Chaos ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Had chance exist or can take a CC BY-SA or similar copyright licence Armadillo shoe photos CSS Railfan~Ask Me 12:42, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- I'm confused as to what you are seeking to do here. Buffs (talk) 15:20, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- Sinsyuan, did you even read the file's fair use rationale? If you did, you'd understand why I can't just stroll into the mall and take a freely-licensed photo of a pair. I recommend - strongly! - that you withdraw this absurd FFD so as to not waste the community's time further. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 18:18, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
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File:Mike Applegate a.k.a. "Magic Mike" onboard USS Nimitz 2009 (CVN-68).jpg
- File:Mike Applegate a.k.a. "Magic Mike" onboard USS Nimitz 2009 (CVN-68).jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Mapple52 ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Unused personal photo. Out of scope. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 12:54, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
File:Vince Barnett.jpg
- File:Vince Barnett.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Cyberia3 ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Small, poor quality, unused; we have better images of this person in Commons:Category:Vince Barnett. —howcheng {chat} 00:52, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: This discussion was originally created on the log page for July 3, despite being started on July 20. Procedurally relisting so it doesn't get lost.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, * Pppery * it has begun... 13:08, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
File:Miklos Malek by Pal Nanasi.jpg
- File:Miklos Malek by Pal Nanasi.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by 21Kasia ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Doubtful own work per uploader's talk page. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 13:15, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Buffs (talk) 22:40, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- Delete, orphaned with questionable licensing. Salavat (talk) 06:25, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
File:MillenniumTowerPenang.jpg
- File:MillenniumTowerPenang.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by McBain~enwiki ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Small. Low res. No metadata. Doubtful own work. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 13:36, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Buffs (talk) 22:40, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- Delete, orphaned with questionable licensing. Salavat (talk) 06:25, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
File:Christian Democratic Party (Chile) logo.png
- File:Christian Democratic Party (Chile) logo.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by HapHaxion ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Unused. Superseded by File:Logopdc2020.svg. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 13:42, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- Comment: Likely falls under threshold of originality. If so, can be moved to Commons. HapHaxion (talk / contribs) 14:07, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- Agreed w/ HapHaxion. Buffs (talk) 15:22, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- Delete, redundant to SVG file. Salavat (talk) 06:26, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
File:IDENTITYTYPES.jpg
- File:IDENTITYTYPES.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Wharmening ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Contested proposed deletion. Unused image that could be rendered as a table using MediaWiki markup. Ixfd64 (talk) 20:17, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- Delete using images in place of tables is very poor form for accessibility. A text table using wiki markup would be better for accessibility and easier for other editors to edit and updates. -- Whpq (talk) 21:23, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- Delete unused; not an image host. Better formats available. Buffs (talk) 22:39, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- Delete, orphaned with no obvious value. Salavat (talk) 06:26, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
July 29
File:Nurse using paper shredder on confidential records.jpg
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the media below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the media's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: Wrong forum. The file is on Commons. Please nominate it for deletion there if you still feel it should be deleted. AnomieBOT⚡ 08:07, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
- File:Nurse using paper shredder on confidential records.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by HKLionel ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Orphaned and unencyclopedic, being an obviously fake digitally generated image that does not accurately represent its title. HKLionel (talk) 07:55, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
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File:ACIPCO smLogo.gif
- File:ACIPCO smLogo.gif (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by BhamAla ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Unused. Superseded by File:ACIPCO flat.svg. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 08:15, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
File:Mokkori.png
- File:Mokkori.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Beao ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Likely fair use per https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mokkori&oldid=981655505 --Minorax«¦talk¦» 08:48, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
- Delete Likely derivative copyright, unused, unencyclopedic. Buffs (talk) 15:26, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
- Delete, orphaned with questionable licensing. Salavat (talk) 06:28, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
File:MosharrafEngr01.jpg
- File:MosharrafEngr01.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Mrahman770 ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Small, low res, no metadata. Doubtful own work. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 10:53, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
File:Mounir Lazzez.jpg
- File:Mounir Lazzez.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Mehrdaad.wiki ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Similar file with watermark found here. Uploader doesn't seem to be the part of the watermarked entity. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 13:22, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
File:Asif Ahmad Bangkok.jpeg
- File:Asif Ahmad Bangkok.jpeg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Asifaahmad ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Extremely small. Low res. No metadata. Doubtful own work. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 13:55, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
File:Display at the House of Hungarian Wines (2007).jpg
- File:Display at the House of Hungarian Wines (2007).jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Bethmechlin ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Hungarian FoP does not apply to photographs and maps. Furthermore, the quality is too low to be useful. Image is not used anywhere. Ixfd64 (talk) 22:16, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
File:Fantasia Bittersweet.ogg
- File:Fantasia Bittersweet.ogg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Ryoga Godai ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Sample taken from Bittersweet (Fantasia song) either possibly inadequate or unnecessary to help readers understand the song as a whole. May fail WP:NFCC#8. George Ho (talk) 23:06, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
File:Ciara NeverEver.ogg
- File:Ciara NeverEver.ogg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Ryoga Godai ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Sample taken from Never Ever (Ciara song) either possibly inadequate or unnecessary to help readers understand the song as a whole. May fail WP:NFCC#8. George Ho (talk) 23:15, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
- Keep There is enough sourced critical commentary in the article to justify the sample's inclusion there thereby passing WP:NFCC#8, Aspects (talk) 23:40, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
July 30
File:Apollonius circle definition labels.png
- File:Apollonius circle definition labels.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by WillowW ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Unused. Superseded by File:Apollonius circle definition labels.svg. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 02:43, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
File:AtNight.jpg
- File:AtNight.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Sco1996 ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Permission from artist needed. Per the file's description, the building doesn't exist at the time of upload and this is likely an artist's impression of it. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 07:04, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
File:Oklahoma 299.svg
- File:Oklahoma 299.svg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Philroc ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Unused. Broken file. Known as SH-78 since 1955 and current marker was only introduced in 2006. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 09:58, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
File:Olusolataye2014.jpg
- File:Olusolataye2014.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Teddyjazzy ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Doubtful own work. Similar was tagged as own work by another editor. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 10:04, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
File:Twins Affair 2014.jpeg
- File:Twins Affair 2014.jpeg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Twinsaffair ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Doubtful own work. Similar was tagged as own work by another editor. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 10:04, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
File:Pallavi Subhash Chandran - Bridal Wear.JPG
- File:Pallavi Subhash Chandran - Bridal Wear.JPG (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Anonymous.celeb ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Doubt this is an actual own work. Low quality uploads from multiple cameras. See also c:User talk:Anonymous.celeb and User talk:Anonymous.celeb. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 10:13, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
File:On the sets of Basera Launch1.JPG
- File:On the sets of Basera Launch1.JPG (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Anonymous.celeb ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Doubt this is an actual own work. Low quality uploads from multiple cameras. See also c:User talk:Anonymous.celeb and User talk:Anonymous.celeb. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 10:13, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
File:On the sets of Basera1.JPG
- File:On the sets of Basera1.JPG (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Anonymous.celeb ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Doubt this is an actual own work. Low quality uploads from multiple cameras. See also c:User talk:Anonymous.celeb and User talk:Anonymous.celeb. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 10:13, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
File:On the sets of Basera2.JPG
- File:On the sets of Basera2.JPG (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Anonymous.celeb ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Doubt this is an actual own work. Low quality uploads from multiple cameras. See also c:User talk:Anonymous.celeb and User talk:Anonymous.celeb. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 10:13, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
File:On the sets of Basera3.JPG
- File:On the sets of Basera3.JPG (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Anonymous.celeb ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Doubt this is an actual own work. Low quality uploads from multiple cameras. See also c:User talk:Anonymous.celeb and User talk:Anonymous.celeb. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 10:13, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
File:On the sets of Basera4.JPG
- File:On the sets of Basera4.JPG (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Anonymous.celeb ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Doubt this is an actual own work. Low quality uploads from multiple cameras. See also c:User talk:Anonymous.celeb and User talk:Anonymous.celeb. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 10:14, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
File:On the sets of Basera5.JPG
- File:On the sets of Basera5.JPG (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Anonymous.celeb ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Doubt this is an actual own work. Low quality uploads from multiple cameras. See also c:User talk:Anonymous.celeb and User talk:Anonymous.celeb. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 10:14, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
File:On the sets of Basera6.JPG
- File:On the sets of Basera6.JPG (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Anonymous.celeb ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Doubt this is an actual own work. Low quality uploads from multiple cameras. See also c:User talk:Anonymous.celeb and User talk:Anonymous.celeb. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 10:14, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
File:On the sets of Basera7.JPG
- File:On the sets of Basera7.JPG (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Anonymous.celeb ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Doubt this is an actual own work. Low quality uploads from multiple cameras. See also c:User talk:Anonymous.celeb and User talk:Anonymous.celeb. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 10:14, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
File:On the sets of Raja Ki Ayegi Baraat1.jpg
- File:On the sets of Raja Ki Ayegi Baraat1.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Anonymous.celeb ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Doubt this is an actual own work. Low quality uploads from multiple cameras. See also c:User talk:Anonymous.celeb and User talk:Anonymous.celeb. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 10:14, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
File:On the sets of Raja Ki Ayegi Baraat2.jpg
- File:On the sets of Raja Ki Ayegi Baraat2.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Anonymous.celeb ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Doubt this is an actual own work. Low quality uploads from multiple cameras. See also c:User talk:Anonymous.celeb and User talk:Anonymous.celeb. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 10:14, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
File:Overboard 2009.jpeg
- File:Overboard 2009.jpeg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Vkennedy ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Varying sizes/quality/camera (including commons upload). Doubtful own work. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 11:58, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
File:Overboard acappella Oct2010.JPG
- File:Overboard acappella Oct2010.JPG (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Vkennedy ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Varying sizes/quality/camera (including commons upload). Doubtful own work. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 11:58, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
File:Overboard Fall.jpeg
- File:Overboard Fall.jpeg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Vkennedy ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Varying sizes/quality/camera (including commons upload). Doubtful own work. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 11:58, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
File:Overboard-beatles.jpeg
- File:Overboard-beatles.jpeg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Vkennedy ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Varying sizes/quality/camera (including commons upload). Doubtful own work. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 11:59, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
File:Overboard-summer2010.jpg
- File:Overboard-summer2010.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Vkennedy ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Varying sizes/quality/camera (including commons upload). Doubtful own work. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 11:59, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
File:Blei new.JPG
- File:Blei new.JPG (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Doordude ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
No permission, not mentioned in ticket:2009032810020725 per Special:Diff/1101336080. Derivative available with permission on commons. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 13:36, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
File:Northern Raiders colors.png
- File:Northern Raiders colors.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Tiburon ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Unused. Superseded by File:Northern Raiders colors.svg. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 13:42, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
File:Alternate, mirrored "Break My Soul" single cover by Beyoncé.jpg
- File:Alternate, mirrored "Break My Soul" single cover by Beyoncé.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by ReblFleur ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Incorrect licensing - says its for the "primary identification" of the work but this isn't the case. This image appears in the "second/alternative coverart" slot in the infobox and is identical to the main cover art except its flipped vertically. Does not satisfy WP:NFCC as there's no rational for including the additional image - it adds nothing to the article. >> Lil-unique1 (talk) — 16:12, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
File:Break My Soul - Placeholder.jpg
- File:Break My Soul - Placeholder.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by ReblFleur ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Incorrect licensing, this is not the primary image (it was listed in the alternative image slot of the infobox). it was used as a temporary image on the day of the song's release and it was not used since. As it is a simple image and could therefore be uploaded to commons as simple text, its inclusion adds nothing to the article, topic or its understanding and therefore it not suitable per WP:NFCC >> Lil-unique1 (talk) — 16:14, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
File:TOMTOM1.jpg
- File:TOMTOM1.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Kingvidor ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Unused derivative work of presumably copyrighted character. [10] Ixfd64 (talk) 19:31, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
July 31
File:Sheet from '5 Loose Leaf Notebook Drawings' by Richard Tuttle.JPG
- File:Sheet from '5 Loose Leaf Notebook Drawings' by Richard Tuttle.JPG (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Wmpearl ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Does this really meet the treshold of originality needed for copyright protection? It seems like {{PD-simple}} for me, and if the design is free then the photograph can't be non-free, right? Jonteemil (talk) 23:17, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
- Jonteemil, I doubt this much more. As Richard Tuttle says, "Each sheet consisting of a few strokes on low-grade loose leaf paper. The paints bleed and pooled, causing the paper to buckle, giving the works three-dimensionality." So the paper being buckled is intentional and part of the work. And if the work is indeed three-dimensional that means there are several other considerations for derivative works as well. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 06:25, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 08:49, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
- As a note, even "simple" paintings are often copyrighted due to details that may not be immediately obvious. See c:Commons:Village pump/Copyright/Archive/2021/10#Are "simple" paintings copyrighted? Ixfd64 (talk) 18:28, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
File:Chenghai02.JPG
- File:Chenghai02.JPG (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Ibang ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Small, low res, no metadata. Doubtful own work. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 09:49, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
File:Chenghai01.jpg
- File:Chenghai01.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Ibang ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Small, low res, no metadata. Doubtful own work. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 09:50, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
August 1
File:ChalavYisraelCheese.jpg
- File:ChalavYisraelCheese.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by JediMasterMacaroni ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
c:COM:PACKAGING, the main subject in this photo is the packaging, which is too complex to fall below the threshold of originality. The details are neither minimal nor incidental, and is therefore an unacceptable derivative work. ✗plicit 00:24, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
- Hi, I wasn't aware of that policy - is there any way that the image can be kept? Perhaps if I were to correct the licensing? JediMasterMacaroni(Talk) 02:03, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
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