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This page holds approved nominations that are waiting to appear in the "Did you know" section on the Main Page. Following DYK approval, nominations are processed and moved into a Prep area, and from there, prep sets are promoted to a queue, and then to the main page.
To create a new nomination or to see those that are yet to be approved, see Template talk:Did you know. For the discussion page see WT:DYK. Click on the link to go directly to the Special occasion holding area.
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Count of DYK Hooks | ||
Section | # of Hooks | # Verified |
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March 19 | 1 | |
April 2 | 1 | |
April 18 | 1 | |
April 20 | 1 | |
April 26 | 1 | |
April 30 | 1 | |
May 3 | 1 | 1 |
May 6 | 2 | |
May 7 | 1 | |
May 9 | 2 | |
May 11 | 2 | |
May 12 | 3 | |
May 14 | 1 | |
May 15 | 1 | |
May 17 | 2 | |
May 19 | 1 | |
May 21 | 1 | |
May 22 | 1 | |
May 24 | 2 | |
May 25 | 2 | 1 |
May 27 | 2 | 1 |
June 1 | 2 | 1 |
June 3 | 5 | 1 |
June 4 | 2 | 1 |
June 5 | 3 | 1 |
June 6 | 5 | 1 |
June 8 | 6 | 3 |
June 9 | 1 | |
June 10 | 1 | |
June 11 | 1 | 1 |
June 12 | 1 | 1 |
June 13 | 4 | 3 |
June 14 | 3 | 2 |
June 15 | 5 | 1 |
June 16 | 5 | 2 |
June 17 | 6 | 2 |
June 18 | 8 | 4 |
June 19 | 3 | 1 |
June 20 | 8 | 3 |
June 21 | 11 | 1 |
June 22 | 7 | 6 |
June 23 | 2 | 2 |
June 24 | 7 | 7 |
June 25 | 9 | 6 |
June 26 | 9 | 5 |
June 27 | 8 | 6 |
June 28 | 7 | 4 |
June 29 | 11 | 11 |
June 30 | 6 | 4 |
July 1 | 6 | 3 |
July 2 | 8 | 3 |
July 3 | 12 | 5 |
July 4 | 7 | 1 |
July 5 | 10 | 2 |
July 6 | 7 | |
July 7 | 2 | |
Total | 228 | 97 |
Last updated 05:01, 7 July 2022 UTC Current time is 07:01, 7 July 2022 UTC [refresh] |
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- In one window, open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to promote.
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- In the prep set...
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Nominations
Special occasion holding area
Approved nominations
Articles created/expanded on May 3
Serenidus of Saulges, Oratory of Saint Cénéré, Saint Serenicus
... that Serenidus, the brother of Serenicus, is called the "the little pissing saint" because of a spring that issues from below a statue of him in the Oratory of Saint Cénéré (pictured)?Source: https://mel-arts.skyrock.com/3191454855-Oratoire-de-Saint-Cenere.html- Alt1 ... that a statue of Serenidus, the brother of Serenicus, is called the "the little pissing saint" because a spring issues from below it in the Oratory of Saint Cénéré (pictured)?
Created by Evrik (talk) and Rei Momo (talk). Nominated by Evrik (talk) at 20:50, 3 May 2022 (UTC).
On it.
Wow, that was the easiest review ever. @Evrik: you forgot to source the one thing you find most interesting about the article. Since it's also the most scurrilous part, it would need the cite even if you come up with other ALTs. — LlywelynII 12:18, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
- @LlywelynII: The source was accidentally removed. I have added it back. --evrik (talk) 19:46, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
Full review needed of all three nominated articles. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:05, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
- I shall review this.
It will take a little longer than usual because there are three articles, albeit short ones. I shall have to do several reviewus-interruptus saves which may look messy. So patience please. Thank you.Storye book (talk) 09:18, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
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General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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QPQ: Done. |
Overall: Thank you, Evrik, for an interesting article.
- "Little pissing saint" now has its citation. It was misplaced in the text, so I moved it.
However the last para is not sourced. The article would survive without that paragraph: I suggest that if we cannot find sources for it, then it can be moved to the talk page until sources are found.The hook picture is only used in the oratory article; for DYK it needs to be in the Serenidus and Serenicus articles as well.- The QPQ for this one is the Free Comic Book Day review.
Summary: if the picture could be repeated in all three articles, and If the last para can be moved to the article talk page (until sources are found), then the Serenidus article would pass DYK. This now passes DYK. Storye book (talk)
- @Storye book: I sourced the paragraph, but for the DYK, I have commented out the passage. --evrik (talk) 19:04, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
- SERENICUS
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Overall: Thank you for this useful article, Evrik, about a little-known saint.
- This Serenicus article was created on 27 May, after the nomination on 3 May, but triples are often combined long after the first nomination of the set, so I am accepting this as new enough AGF.
- The QPQ for this one is the 2022 Sweden riots.
- I found it confusing that the name of this saint which appeared at the beginning of the lead was identical to that of his brother Serenidus, i.e. exactly the same name appeared at the top of both leads. So I changed it to match this source. If my edit is wrong, please adjust it.
- The Serenicus article has a citation confirming that Serenidus and Serenicus were brothers.
I am not sure whether the image for this triple nom should appear in this Serenicus article, as it is not relevant to it, although it should definitely appear in the other two articles. I have asked a question about it, below.
Summary: This Serenicus article passes DYK. should pass DYK, if we don't have to include the DYK nom image in it (I await an answer from BlueMoonset to my question). Storye book (talk) 12:36, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
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General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px. |
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Overall: Thank you, Evrik, for this article.
This article has 1465 characters. It needs at least 1500 characters.- The QPQ for this article is Christ Smalls.
Summary: the only niggle is the length. If you can resolve that, then this article should pass DYK. This article now passes DYK. Storye book (talk) 13:02, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
Two reviews pending. Please be patient.Storye book (talk) 10:12, 4 July 2022 (UTC)All three reviews are now complete.
Nominator, please see above individual article reviews to see which issues need to be resolved.Thank you. Storye book (talk) 13:02, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Rei Momo: Please see the above three reviews. Thank you. Storye book (talk) 13:05, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
- @BlueMoonset: Please could you kindly confirm whether a picture DYK on a triple nom has to have the picture on all three articles? In this case, the picture is only relevant to the hook and to two of the articles - so I'm not sure about the rules here. Storye book (talk) 11:56, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
- Storye book, the image has to appear in at least one of the articles but not all; if it's being used to illustrate one of them in the hook, then it should certainly appear in that article. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:03, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
- Super. Thank you. I have adjusted the reviews accordingly.
There are still some issues to resolve.Storye book (talk) 14:16, 4 July 2022 (UTC) @Storye book: all issues should have been addressed. Thanks! --evrik (talk) 19:04, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
Thank you, evrik - sorry you had to wait for two months for this. This nom is good to go, with ALT0 and picture. Storye book (talk)
- Super. Thank you. I have adjusted the reviews accordingly.
- Storye book, the image has to appear in at least one of the articles but not all; if it's being used to illustrate one of them in the hook, then it should certainly appear in that article. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:03, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Storye book and Evrik:
the hook says that the person was called "the little pissing saint", while the article says the statue was referred to that way – which is it? I only have access to the blog source, not the book, so I can't say for certain. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 03:52, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Theleekycauldron: Thank you for spotting that. If the sources give us any choice in the matter, I would rather that the hook referred to the statue, because (at least officially) certain religious groups are not supposed to confuse the deity or holy person with their statue - or in effect to worship idols. A long time ago I bought a statue of Guanyin at a temple in China and brought it home. A Chinese friend scolded me for calling it "Guanyin" instead of "statue of Guanyin". So yes, we have to be careful with language, there. evrik, please could we have an ALT1 which says maybe something like: ... that a statue of Serenidus, the brother of Serenicus, is called the "the little pissing saint" because a spring issues from below it in the Oratory of Saint Cénéré (pictured)? Storye book (talk) 09:24, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Theleekycauldron and Storye book: I added an Alt1. Thank you so very much for your help. --evrik (talk) 15:59, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you, Leeky. That looks fine to me. I await Evrik's reply. Storye book (talk) 16:06, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Storye book: I did reply. --evrik (talk) 16:24, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you, Leeky. That looks fine to me. I await Evrik's reply. Storye book (talk) 16:06, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Theleekycauldron and Storye book: I added an Alt1. Thank you so very much for your help. --evrik (talk) 15:59, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Theleekycauldron: Thank you for spotting that. If the sources give us any choice in the matter, I would rather that the hook referred to the statue, because (at least officially) certain religious groups are not supposed to confuse the deity or holy person with their statue - or in effect to worship idols. A long time ago I bought a statue of Guanyin at a temple in China and brought it home. A Chinese friend scolded me for calling it "Guanyin" instead of "statue of Guanyin". So yes, we have to be careful with language, there. evrik, please could we have an ALT1 which says maybe something like: ... that a statue of Serenidus, the brother of Serenicus, is called the "the little pissing saint" because a spring issues from below it in the Oratory of Saint Cénéré (pictured)? Storye book (talk) 09:24, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
- Oops, sorry, evrik, my bad. Thank you for your patience. Storye book (talk) 16:38, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
GTG (this time) with ALT1 and picture. Storye book (talk) 16:38, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 25
Pooja Sharma (entrepreneur)
- ... that Pooja Sharma (pictured) was the first woman who stepped out of her home to work in her village? Source: "Sharma said she was the first woman of Chandu village to work and go outside the house."
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Red Cross Diamond
- Comment: She lived in a village where going out to work was remarkable. This may not be surprising to you but it was to her village and this hook reflects this. Think it can be improved=> create an alt; See an error => fix it; like it => review it
5x expanded by Mujinga (talk). Nominated by Victuallers (talk) at 07:51, 26 May 2022 (UTC).
- Not a review but a suggestion -- the hook as written is utterly ordinary. Some contextualization is needed to convey why the reader should not simply shrug their shoulders and move on. Cbl62 (talk) 21:58, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
New enough and large enough expansion. QPQ present. GODL appears to be acceptable for the Main Page. Two items I'd like to ask about, @Mujinga and Victuallers:
- Sourcing: Why do we have a Google Maps cite? Is it because the village lacks an article?
- If we can't add context to ALT0, it may be worth a punchier ALT1 such as this one:
- ALT1: ... that Pooja Sharma (pictured) started a bakery in a haunted mansion that employs 150 women?
- Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 02:00, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for the prod SB. Google maps? Why not? delete it if it offends. Surely not an issue? Added more context to alt0, the hook was meant to be that it didnt have any, but maybe that didnt work. The haunted mansion is OK I suppose but every other old large building in the world is reputedly haunted .... and of course none of them are. Victuallers (talk) 09:21, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
I'd approve the modified ALT0. Also tweaking ALT1 as an option. Note I had to remove a section someone added in good faith after my first review that appears to have been on someone completely different: Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 17:59, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that Pooja Sharma (pictured) started a bakery in a reputedly haunted mansion that employs 150 women?
@Mujinga, Victuallers, Sammi Brie, and Evrik: I'm reopening this as I have queried the status of the image at Commons. See c:Deletion requests/File:Pooja Sharma and award.jpg. I'm not an expert on this, but I'm a little skeptical that an image uploaded to Twitter conforms to the licence. If it's found that it's OK, it can be re-uploaded to a picture hook slot again. Otherwise, if the image is deleted, the hook can be used elsewhere in a DYK set. Cheers — Amakuru (talk) 14:18, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
- The licensing can be queried on commons I think if you are concerned, as there may be no expertise here (your link appears to not link). Being as the image is on commons with the correct license and loaded by an experienced editor some time ago should give some reassurance. The license depends on it being given an open license. The Central Indian government (like the USA) give open licences to all pics taken by its employees. The next problem is to prove that it is released by the right person. In this case we have a Twitter blue tag which proves it is who it says it is. There is nothing wrong with Twitter per se... and commons processes oversee this type of stuff. Victuallers (talk) 14:47, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
- The license looks good to me. You can query it on the commons, but I see no reason (as stated by Victuallers), as to why there are problems with the image. --evrik (talk) 15:15, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
- For me too the license is ok, it's under GODL-India and that's worked for other previous DYKs so I'm not seeing a problem here, although it's always good to check Mujinga (talk) 18:49, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
- Found the deletion request, correct link is https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Pooja_Sharma_and_award.jpg Mujinga (talk) 18:57, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
- Sammi Brie any thoughts on how to move forward with this? thanx! Mujinga (talk) 13:31, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
The image issue has been resolved so I'll be bold and re-add the tick Mujinga (talk) 12:05, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
Under no circumstances should a creator or nominator tick their own article. New reviewer needed. BlueMoonset (talk) 13:44, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
I'm sorry, I must have missed your initial ping. I will reaffirm my tick with modified ALT0 and ALT1 permissible. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 17:48, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 27
Dee Dawkins-Haigler
- ... that Dee Dawkins-Haigler (pictured) ran in four elections in four months for the same seat? Source: Dawkins-Haigler finished in first place in the primary election on May 13, advancing to a runoff election against Malik Douglas. She won the runoff election on June 10. She faced a primary election for the 2016 general elections on July 15.[1] She entered into a rematch against Douglas, and defeated him in the runoff election on August 5.[2]
- ALT1: ... that Dee Dawkins-Haigler (pictured) lost an election to the Georgia State Senate by ten votes? Source: [3]
- ALT2: ... that Dee Dawkins-Haigler (pictured) received the President's Call to Service Award in 2017? Source: [4]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Topical Dancer
- Comment: She is running in an election on June 21, so this should not be posted before then.
5x expanded by Muboshgu (talk). Self-nominated at 15:20, 27 May 2022 (UTC).
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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Policy compliance:
- Adequate sourcing:
- Concerned about reliability of The Christian Recorder and The Champion – is the latter a wordpress blog?
- Neutral:
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
Hook eligibility:
- Cited:
- For ALT0, Markiewicz 2008 says that she won two elections in two months and would have to win three more; where does four come from?
- Interesting:
- ALT2 doesn't quite cut it, although ALTs 0 and 1 are good
Image eligibility:
- Freely licensed:
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- Clear at 100px:
- The contrast could be heightened a little, she appears to blend into the background- it's not a huge issue, though
QPQ: - Not done
Overall: @Muboshgu: nice job so far! Almost there :) theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 02:40, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
- Regarding the sources, yeah, I used some that are sketchier than I would prefer to. The Christian Recorder says in its banner that it is the "official organ" of the African Methodist Episcopal Church, which the subject belongs to. The citation is used once, only to verify that she is a member of the church. The Champion appears to be a legit newspaper serving DeKalb County, GA. It is used only to cite that both mother and daughter are Secretary of State candidates in 2022, which other sources verify.[5] – Muboshgu (talk) 21:15, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
- ALT0: the text that I copied from the article shows that she ran in elections in May, June, July and August, all for the same seat. Markiewicz specifically says that she won two elections in two months (May and June), and then later notes she will be a candidate in a July election with a possible August runoff. The Salzer citation notes that she won the August runoff. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:20, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
- User:theleekycauldron, and the QPQ is provided. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:29, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Muboshgu: Hmmm... re: The Christian Recorder, is it necessary to be said that she's a member of the church? Especially given that this is a BLP, I'm not wild about making a personal statement like that based on the church's own "official organ" (and I must say, as far as church organs go, I'd far prefer whatever Gerda Arendt's got). And if WRDW verifies what The Champion says- isn't the former the more reliable source?
- As for the election... I don't know why, then, that Markiewicz 2008 says that there'll be five, but if four is the agreement of other sources, than fine. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 08:02, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
- What's WDRW? I took the SPS out. Why would it be a BLP issue to say she's in the church? She's a pastor in Lithonia.
- Markiewicz says five because they're also counting the November general election. I think she ran unopposed because the AJC didn't include her district in their day after write up. – Muboshgu (talk) 04:10, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Muboshgu: Leek's referring to WRDW, a TV station in Augusta. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 02:49, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
- Oh duh, the WRDW source that I put above. I hadn't put it in the article because it doesn't mention DDH. I'll put it in to support The Champion. That should address all outstanding issues, theleekycauldron. – Muboshgu (talk) 03:43, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Muboshgu: Leek's referring to WRDW, a TV station in Augusta. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 02:49, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
seems to by my watch :) theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 07:04, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
References
- ^ Markiewicz, David (June 19, 2008). "Busy stretch as Sailor's successor keeps on campaigning". The Atlanta Constitution. p. JE12. Retrieved May 25, 2022 – via Newspapers.com.
- ^ Salzer, James (August 6, 2008). "Capitol to see shake-up with some lawmakers". The Atlanta Constitution. p. D3. Retrieved May 25, 2022 – via Newspapers.com.
Articles created/expanded on June 1
Bias response teams
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that bias response teams are part of a second wave of campus speech regulation in the United States? Source: BRTs were part of the “second wave” of campus speech regulation
Created by FacetsOfNonStickPans (talk). Self-nominated at 12:01, 2 June 2022 (UTC).
- Comment: The Fire appears to be wholly partisan and unreliable, and definitely should not be used as a source for the hook. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 06:45, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
- Well, I should say that this piece is, since I haven't taken in FIRE as a whole. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 06:47, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
- Striking ALT0. Looking for an alternative. FacetsOfNonStickPans (talk) 07:01, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
- theleekycauldron, would you reconsider the cut off ALT0 now that I have added another inline citation for it which can be read along with the FIRE cite, and partially supports the FIRE content used with regard to the hook? Please see the first line for the section '#Background and context' and the section cite Miller et al. 2018 with the quote parameter/field reading "... flurry of scholarship in student affairs in the 1990s followed judicial rebuke of colleges and universities that created rigid campus speech codes in the 1980s and early 1990s [...] Since campus speech codes began to be struck down..."
- Either way I think it may be better to shift to a new ALT, such as below:
- ALT1
... that bias response teams are not thought police?Source: Claims that bias response teams function as the thought police on campuses are false (Inside Higher Ed) - ALT1.1
... that bias response teams are not Orwellian?
- ALT1
- FacetsOfNonStickPans (talk)
- We aren't posting opinion-derived hooks as DYKs (I mean, we won't post hooks sourced to opinion pieces); besides, you've made the matter worse because you can't trump one opinion piece with another one you personally prefer, as you did in the criticism section (it's a clear violation of neutral point of view, whatever my opinion on the article subject). In particular, saying in WP-voice: "we have opinions 1,2,3,4,...,15, but THIS PARTICULAR PIECE says/explains they are bullshit" is not the way to go. If you have opinion pieces that say that the critical point of view is exaggerated or relies on falsehoods, you may show the debate as "proponents (name) say XYZ, opponents (name) say ABC/disagree with proponent's X, arguing that...", in proportion to the weight of the argument. But this version is untenable. Szmenderowiecki (talk) 13:06, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- Szmenderowiecki; thank you for this explanation.
- ALT2...
that reports to bias response systems in American universities have included an incident of insults shouted from a car, denial of leave for a cultural holiday and a drawing in the snow? Source: Please see section "#Reporting examples" for sources to back up the hook.
- ALT2...
- I do have some doubts that the hook now picks up routine news. However, I will leave this to the discretion of the validity of the hook to the reviewer. FacetsOfNonStickPans (talk) 10:29, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
- Szmenderowiecki; thank you for this explanation.
- We aren't posting opinion-derived hooks as DYKs (I mean, we won't post hooks sourced to opinion pieces); besides, you've made the matter worse because you can't trump one opinion piece with another one you personally prefer, as you did in the criticism section (it's a clear violation of neutral point of view, whatever my opinion on the article subject). In particular, saying in WP-voice: "we have opinions 1,2,3,4,...,15, but THIS PARTICULAR PIECE says/explains they are bullshit" is not the way to go. If you have opinion pieces that say that the critical point of view is exaggerated or relies on falsehoods, you may show the debate as "proponents (name) say XYZ, opponents (name) say ABC/disagree with proponent's X, arguing that...", in proportion to the weight of the argument. But this version is untenable. Szmenderowiecki (talk) 13:06, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- Striking ALT0. Looking for an alternative. FacetsOfNonStickPans (talk) 07:01, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
Full review needed. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:28, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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- Adequate sourcing:
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- Neutral:
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- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
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Overall: The sourcing and POV seems mostly solid but the FIRE article is obviously an opinion piece, so it shouldn't be quoted directly as a source for basic info in the "Background and context" section. As you mention above, the second source only partially supports the FIRE cite. This should be removed for the same reason that the first hook was rejected. The hook is cited, but I'm also unsure of whether a series of reported incidents from UMass is interesting enough.(On that note, I'm not even sure if the article needs a section listing incidents reported to various campus response teams.) Are there any alternate hook options? BuySomeApples (talk) 06:01, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you for the comments. I will make some changes. FacetsOfNonStickPans (talk) 11:08, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
- While there are more changes to be made, and new hooks to be found... my intention for the section listing incidents reported to various campus response teams was to provide some examples of incidents that have actually been reported. For now, I have removed all the names of the colleges and universities, and have merged the remaining text into another section. If this particular content still doesn't seem to suit the article, it can be removed. The article will still carry the formal explanations of bias incidents. FacetsOfNonStickPans (talk) 06:10, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- BuySomeApples, I don't have an interesting hook for this. This is my last attempt at a hook... :D
- ALT3... that bias response teams are part of a balancing act to improve campus climate? Bias response teams... There are a range of expectations or key functions for these entities beyond report response, which commonly include: ... Creating and promoting educational initiatives to foster an inclusive campus climate, On the one hand, a university needs to have mechanisms in place to respond to discrimination, hate, and bias to ensure an equitable learning environment for its students. On the other hand, bias response systems can all too easily become a kind of speech police that stifle open dialogue and freedom of expression.
- ALT3.1... that bias response teams are part of a balancing act between campus diversity and free speech?
- FacetsOfNonStickPans (talk) 13:18, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- BuySomeApples, I don't have an interesting hook for this. This is my last attempt at a hook... :D
- While there are more changes to be made, and new hooks to be found... my intention for the section listing incidents reported to various campus response teams was to provide some examples of incidents that have actually been reported. For now, I have removed all the names of the colleges and universities, and have merged the remaining text into another section. If this particular content still doesn't seem to suit the article, it can be removed. The article will still carry the formal explanations of bias incidents. FacetsOfNonStickPans (talk) 06:10, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
That works @FacetsOfNonStickPans: thanks for bearing with me on this! Approving ALT3 and ALT3b. BuySomeApples (talk) 00:21, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 3
Kai Bumann
- ... that the German conductor Kai Bumann began his tenure as musical director of the Warsaw Chamber Opera with Verdi's Falstaff and toured with the company to Japan twice? Source: several
- Reviewed: List of songs recorded by Kyla
Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 22:14, 9 June 2022 (UTC).
- Reviewing. FacetsOfNonStickPans (talk) 11:48, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
New enough, long enough. Other basic DYK nom criteria seem to check out. There is an image over at commons which I was just about to say would go well with this but uncertain about its copyright status now. Hook is interesting and cited inline. QPQ done. gtg. FacetsOfNonStickPans (talk) 13:04, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you, and please hold on while I'll ask GRuban about the image licensing and possible cropping a bit, and straightening. It's nice but who is in position to take such a shot? The date can't be the date of taking it, just uploading. For the article, I'll just take it for now. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:41, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- Bad news about the photo, I'm afraid. First, as Gerda observes, this is clearly a professional quality image, taken from a great angle, which is wonderful, but from that I'd expect it to belong to a professional photographer and/or someone associated with the conductor or their orchestra, not an anonymous editor. Second, the uploader's history isn't great: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Lorak988 is covered with red deletion notices. Now image copyright is complex - anyone who uploads images from more than one source is almost certain to get their images challenged, I've got a number of those on my talk page myself, there are a number of images that well intentioned reasonably educated editors can disagree about the copyright status of. But the fact that not one of them was upheld (stayed blue links) is worrisome; he's only got 4 images that weren't challenged, he's had more than that deleted; and I looked at a few of the discussions, and he didn't even try to defend them. So I did an image search for the image, and besides different Wikipedias, I found it used in two places, https://www.ch-cultura.ch/de/archiv/musik-und-tanz/kai-bumann-chefdirigent-des-schweizer-jugendsinfonieorchesters-ist-gestorben where it says "Foto: © Sandra Krebs, https://sjso.ch/", and https://sjso.ch/ itself, where it says (automatic translation only, I'm afraid, my German is keine) "Since 1998, Mr. Bumann has been chief conductor of the SJSO." That seems to match the "someone associated with his orchestra" hypothesis. I think I'm going to nominate the image for deletion, and unless the uploader shows up and explains that's he's actually the official photographer of the SJSO or some other official thereof, I think it's going to get deleted. --GRuban (talk) 18:42, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks, sadly as expected. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:03, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- Thinking further: could be that the photographer passed rights to the orchestra, and orchestra would be willing to set it free, in order to show their former conductor in the best light? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:09, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- You can certainly ask. The SJSO contact page seems to be https://sjso.ch/kontakt/ If I were writing, I'd write:
- Bad news about the photo, I'm afraid. First, as Gerda observes, this is clearly a professional quality image, taken from a great angle, which is wonderful, but from that I'd expect it to belong to a professional photographer and/or someone associated with the conductor or their orchestra, not an anonymous editor. Second, the uploader's history isn't great: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Lorak988 is covered with red deletion notices. Now image copyright is complex - anyone who uploads images from more than one source is almost certain to get their images challenged, I've got a number of those on my talk page myself, there are a number of images that well intentioned reasonably educated editors can disagree about the copyright status of. But the fact that not one of them was upheld (stayed blue links) is worrisome; he's only got 4 images that weren't challenged, he's had more than that deleted; and I looked at a few of the discussions, and he didn't even try to defend them. So I did an image search for the image, and besides different Wikipedias, I found it used in two places, https://www.ch-cultura.ch/de/archiv/musik-und-tanz/kai-bumann-chefdirigent-des-schweizer-jugendsinfonieorchesters-ist-gestorben where it says "Foto: © Sandra Krebs, https://sjso.ch/", and https://sjso.ch/ itself, where it says (automatic translation only, I'm afraid, my German is keine) "Since 1998, Mr. Bumann has been chief conductor of the SJSO." That seems to match the "someone associated with his orchestra" hypothesis. I think I'm going to nominate the image for deletion, and unless the uploader shows up and explains that's he's actually the official photographer of the SJSO or some other official thereof, I think it's going to get deleted. --GRuban (talk) 18:42, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you, and please hold on while I'll ask GRuban about the image licensing and possible cropping a bit, and straightening. It's nice but who is in position to take such a shot? The date can't be the date of taking it, just uploading. For the article, I'll just take it for now. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:41, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
Hello, I'm a volunteer editor for Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia. I am working on an article, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kai_Bumann, that needs a free licensed image, an image free for everyone to reuse and edit, like the rest of the Wikipedia. Would you be able to release your excellent image of Kai Bumann at https://sjso.ch/? If you put "Released under https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/deed.de" next to it on https://sjso.ch/, we could use it. Thank you!
(My email address)
- I'd try to write it in German if possible, except I don't write German - but you do! You could also direct them to https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wikimedia_VRT_release_generator which they could fill out and send to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org, but that can take a few emails back and forth, as VRT might require that they get the photographer to send the email, or that they photocopy their contract, or their drivers' licenses, or do twenty push-ups, or find a shrubbery, or whatever else the responding VRT person feels like.
- When I do this sort of thing, I get a success rate of maybe 20% - which isn't great, but isn't 0. --GRuban (talk) 19:46, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you. If only I wasn't so overwhelmed with Recent deaths articles, yesterday Richard Taruskin, today Peter Brook. I'll see. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:58, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 4
Messe brève no. 7 (Gounod)
- ... that the Messe brève no. 7 by Charles Gounod (pictured) is a 1890 missa brevis that he derived from an earlier work for only two voices and organ? Source: several
- Reviewed: Katie Phang
- Comment: The mass is published under the French name. I wonder if the number should also be in the French fashion. I like that the pic is from the exact year, and shows a less known Gounod.
Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 06:41, 5 June 2022 (UTC).
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Overall:
does the hook citation count as "immediate", per the DYK rules? (also a qpq please!), thank you, (now addressed, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 21:18, 14 June 2022 (UTC)) Good to go, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 18:12, 6 June 2022 (UTC) Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 21:18, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- I don't believe so, no. Gerda, can you take care of this? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 06:30, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 5
There's a Honey
- ... that Pale Waves's debut single, "There's a Honey", was produced by Matthew Healy and George Daniel of the pop rock band the 1975? Source: "Pale Waves ... got [the 1975] band members Matty Healy and George Daniel to help produce debut single ‘There’s A Honey’" (NME)
Improved to Good Article status by Gen. Quon (talk). Self-nominated at 15:52, 5 June 2022 (UTC).
- Note: I can also work in a link to Heather Baron-Gracie if that would make this better.--Gen. Quon[Talk](I'm studying Wikipedia!) 16:30, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
Article has achieved Good Article status. No issues of copyvio or plagiarism. All sources appear reliable. QPQ is done. Hook is interesting and sourced. Does the official name of the song include quotation marks? Thriley (talk) 06:18, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
- Hi, Gen. Quon! And Thriley – I've got some ALTs for y'all to consider :) theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 09:48, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that no song in 2017 reportedly matched the debut single of Pale Waves "in terms of sky-kissing '90s-style alt-rock majesty"?
- theleekycauldron These are good! What about ALT1a: ... that no song in 2017 reportedly matched the "sky-kissing '90s-style alt-rock majesty" of Pale Waves's debut single, "There's a Honey"?
- @Theleekycauldron: Was there anything else I need to do for this? I'm still a newbie when it comes to the intricacies of DYK, haha. Fwiw, I think that my tweaked Alt1a (inspired by your idea) is better than my initial suggestion.--Gen. Quon[Talk](I'm studying Wikipedia!) 16:46, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
- Hey, Gen. Quon! Sorry this fell off of my radar... We'll need a reviewer back here (possibly Thriley, and I'll ping Narutolovehinata5 as well) to approve ALT1 and ALT1a (I agree, quite good :D), and then we'll be good for promotion! theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 00:57, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
- theleekycauldron Was there anything else i needed to do here? I personally like this hook better than my original of 2a, but that's just me.--Gen. Quon[Talk](I'm studying Wikipedia!) 16:55, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Gen. Quon: I'm pretty sure we're good on this... (sorry I've been putting off your follow-ups, I promise I've got a response in the works!) I'll ping Z1720 to see if they can sneak this into a set. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 01:03, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Theleekycauldron: responding to the above ping: I already filled an image hook in the prep set I'm creating, so I can't give a slot for this. However, it is still on the approved list so it will be placed in a prep set in due course. Z1720 (talk) 01:12, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Gen. Quon: I'm pretty sure we're good on this... (sorry I've been putting off your follow-ups, I promise I've got a response in the works!) I'll ping Z1720 to see if they can sneak this into a set. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 01:03, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- theleekycauldron Was there anything else i needed to do here? I personally like this hook better than my original of 2a, but that's just me.--Gen. Quon[Talk](I'm studying Wikipedia!) 16:55, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
- Hey, Gen. Quon! Sorry this fell off of my radar... We'll need a reviewer back here (possibly Thriley, and I'll ping Narutolovehinata5 as well) to approve ALT1 and ALT1a (I agree, quite good :D), and then we'll be good for promotion! theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 00:57, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Theleekycauldron: Was there anything else I need to do for this? I'm still a newbie when it comes to the intricacies of DYK, haha. Fwiw, I think that my tweaked Alt1a (inspired by your idea) is better than my initial suggestion.--Gen. Quon[Talk](I'm studying Wikipedia!) 16:46, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
- theleekycauldron These are good! What about ALT1a: ... that no song in 2017 reportedly matched the "sky-kissing '90s-style alt-rock majesty" of Pale Waves's debut single, "There's a Honey"?
- ALT2: ... that Matthew Healy and George Daniel of the 1975 helped produce Pale Waves's debut single, "There's a Honey", and made it "sonically bigger"?
- ALT2a: ... that Matthew Healy and George Daniel of the 1975 helped make Pale Waves's debut single, "There's a Honey", "sonically bigger"?
- As Thriley is the original reviewer I'll leave the final approval to them, but I think ALT2a has a better punch than the other proposals. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:02, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
Since Thriley gave their go-ahead, I'm approving ALT2a. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:12, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 6
Six-Bid Solo
... that the American card game of Six-Bid Solo, sometimes called Salt Lake Solo, originated in the south German game of Tapp?Source: Dummett, Michael (1980). The Game of Tarot. London: Duckworth.p. 569 ISBN 0715610147, _ (1924). Hoyle's Standard Games. Cincinnati: USPC, pp. 185-186 and https://www.pagat.com/aceten/solo.html#six-bid.- Reviewed: Corner chair
Created by Bermicourt (talk). Self-nominated at 16:07, 13 June 2022 (UTC).
- Bermicourt, it's been over a week since the nomination was made, and the QPQ is yet to be supplied. Please do so within the next seven days if you wish the nomination to proceed. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:35, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
- @BlueMoonset: my apologies, I've been away. That's now done. Bermicourt (talk) 13:24, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
Full review needed now that QPQ has been supplied. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:15, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
- @BlueMoonset: my apologies, I've been away. That's now done. Bermicourt (talk) 13:24, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
The hook is more on the niche side of things and won't make much sense to those who aren't familiar with card games. Can something else be proposed here? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 16:01, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
- Narutolovehinata5 Maybe just remove part of the hook to say that the game originated in south Germany? SL93 (talk) 20:01, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
- ALT1 ... that the American card game of Six-Bid Solo originated in south Germany? SL93 (talk) 20:03, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
- I think that hook is much better. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:26, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
Full review still needed. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:32, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
The article was created just in time and is long enough. It is free from close paraphrasing, and a QPQ has been provide. I prefer SL93's hook to the original; it is cited inline to an offline source so AGF. My concern is that most paragraphs in the "Rules" section do not have a footnote. Technically they're all cited according to the sentence that goes "The following rules are based on HSG supplemented by the other sources cited.", but DYK suggests that every paragraph have at least footnote even when it is otherwise not required. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:29, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
- That's done. I've added the source to each paragraph separately. Bermicourt (talk) 07:14, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
Thank you. Approving ALT1 only. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:02, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Bermicourt: Please respond to the QPQ review, Template:Did you know nominations/Corner chair, so that it can continue moving forward. Z1720 (talk) 01:34, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, done that. It needs to include the hook somewhere in the article. Bermicourt (talk) 11:57, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Bermicourt: Please respond to the QPQ review, Template:Did you know nominations/Corner chair, so that it can continue moving forward. Z1720 (talk) 01:34, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- That's done. I've added the source to each paragraph separately. Bermicourt (talk) 07:14, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
Love Story (Kyuhyun EP)
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that Super Junior's Kyuhyun created a whole music album and structured it like a novel?Source: https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/art/2022/05/732_322884.html- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Let's Go Karaoke!
Created by Moonchildkyu (talk). Self-nominated at 17:07, 6 June 2022 (UTC).
@Moonchildkyu As the AFC reviewer that accepted this article, I believe it is ready. However, the hook isn't imo.
- I think: ALT0a ... that Super Junior member Kyuhyun's EP Love Story is structured like a novel?
- would be better. Haiiya (talk) (contribs) 02:59, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
Haiiya, the article needs to be reviewed based on the DYK criteria; see the reviewing guide for more information. Thanks! (keep an eye on tone issues) theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 06:24, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
I had passed it according to the DYK criteria. Thanks for checking! Haiiya (talk) (contribs) 17:08, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
- * Suggestion for @Haiiya: use the DYK checklist or enumerate the different criteria that matter in a nomination. Take a look at some of the reviews by experienced contributors to get a sense for what yours should include. (My DYK nominations tend to do this with the fewest words possible—that's what 500+ of them does to you!) Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 07:26, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
hmm, well, then it would seem that I simply disagree with your assessment, Haiiya. Several sentences contain unencyclopedic prose, and the sentence cited to genius.com is original research. I'm also concerned about the reliability of Soompi. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 19:06, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- Pinging Moonchildkyu as nominator to fix the issues. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 19:07, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
theleekycauldron When I reviewed the article, I requested that User:moonchildkyu include additional sources next to the Soompi sources, so those sentences are fine. I see your point about original research, so I hope the creator will provide an alternate hook. I don't see any issues regarding encyclopedic tone, though. Haiiya (talk) (contribs) 19:42, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
Final ping to User:Moonchildkyu, as it's been over 13 days since the ping and they haven't been active since June 9. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 10:00, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
Hi all, thank you for the comments. What am I supposed to edit exactly? Sorry, I'm still new to this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Moonchildkyu (talk • contribs)
- @Moonchildkyu:
The sentence cited to genius.com is original research and needs to be either re-cited or removed. In addition, the following sentences are unencyclopedic and need to be rewritten (underlines where it needs to be fixed):
He stated in the video uploaded via Twitter Media Studio that the track "Love Story" would conclude the series and aims to stimulate the emotions within a relationship during winter
For this project, Kyuhyun wanted the listener to experience the different moods of love and genres representing each season.
The EP opens with "Love Story". It is a ballad song about yearning for a lover though the relationship is already part of the past. The lyrics speak about reminiscing the memories of a past relationship, as if flipping through a novel. Each track has an epilogue, in which all six tracks string together a storyline, in line with the title of the EP Love Story.
- If the issues can't be fixed within a week, the nomination should most likely be closed. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 20:53, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 8
Marguerite Vaillant-Couturier
- ... that French soprano Marguerite Vaillant-Couturier created the role of Micaëla in the world premiere of Lecocq's Le coeur et la main (pictured) in Paris in 1882? Source: several
- Reviewed: George Mann Niedecken
Created by Ipigott (talk) and Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 14:53, 13 June 2022 (UTC).
- Created on 8 June, nom on 13, new enough; 2712 char, long enough; neutral; cited; no apparent copyvios. QPQ done. Hook at 150 char, under maximum; interesting and cited in the article.
I'm confused about the licensing on the photo. It says it was taken in 1882 by Atelier Nadar. Can't really tell if it was actually published in the Théâtre des Nouveautés program or not, but in any case, that studio was operated by Gaspard-Félix Tournachon who died in 1910. It is in the PD because 70 years past 1910 would have been 1980-81 and thus it was in the public domain prior to the URAA date January 1, 1996 and not eligible for a copyright extension. Even if it was not published, it would have fallen into US public domain after 120 years. For it to be eligible for an image on DYK, it must be transferred to commons with the correct licensing information. If you want to run it without the photo it's GTG just let me know. SusunW (talk) 22:55, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
- We could run it with the other image, but I like that this is connected to the role. Calling GRuban and Tim riley for help. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 04:55, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- I'm afraid I'm no expert on copyright. It's been on Commons for years and has been beautifully improved. Susun, you are the expert on copyright. If you think the current license in incorrect, would it not be possible to find another license which would be acceptable for such an old image. Perhaps L'Ange au Sourire who originally uploaded it would like to comment?
- Hi, The BNF (French National Library) has determined that this file is in the public domain in France. This work is also in the public domain in all countries where copyright has a lifespan of 100 years or less after the death of the author. Nadar's death 1910. Best Regards L'Ange au Sourire (talk)
- If not, I agree with Gerda that we could substitute another image from Gallica, for example this one or even this if you see no copyright problems with them.--Ipigott (talk) 06:21, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- I think you speak about the alternate (lead) image. This is the image in the role, uploaded by Tim riley, and not yet on the commons. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:28, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- I see you are referring to File:Vaillant-Couturier Nouveautés Le coeur.jpeg which is now on Wikipedia. Does it not face the same problem as other images from Atelier Nadar? Perhaps Susun could comment.--Ipigott (talk) 06:50, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- I am not sure that I understand your question Ipigott. The photo is not on commons and is marked "Do not copy this file to Wikimedia Commons" and was uploaded as Gerda noted by Tim Riley. I have done a brief scanning and all other images I can find by Atelier Nadar are on commons. So my question is now and was, why is it marked as it is? The licensing appears to be incorrect and I do not understand why it isn't on commons. What problem do images from Atelier Nadar face and why would they have different copyright status than other similar photos? SusunW (talk) 12:46, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- SusunW: I think there is some confusion here as a result of subsequent comments. As the image we originally had is now back, there don't seem to be any further copyright problems. Thanks for your additional edits on the article.--Ipigott (talk) 13:41, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- I am still confused Ipigott. I have never seen any image associated with this nomination other than the one that is still on the nomination. It is titled "File:Vaillant-Couturier Nouveautés Le coeur.jpeg" and was uploaded by Tim Riley. (I did not examine any photograph in the article except the one in this nomination.) In my opinion, it definitely has a licensing issue for appearing at DYK. Perhaps Buidhe, who usually focuses on FA would be willing to look at it and advise if my analysis of this particular image is incorrect. If I am wrong, I am certainly willing to accept that and I have no desire to hold up the DYK, but I want to be sure that we have followed the "rules". SusunW (talk) 14:03, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- As you can see, SusunW, I'm hopeless at DYK discussions. Now I have just realized what your problem is. When Gerda Arendt nominated the article for DYK, she included a new image, namely File:Vaillant-Couturier Nouveautés Le coeur.jpeg, the one which is now causing problems. As the reason I created the article in the first place was because I found the image File:Vaillant Couturier Atelier Nadar btv1b531468626.jpg particularly well restored, I assumed it would be used for the DYK. I now see that Gerda, whom I admire for her wide experience of biographies of musicians and singers, prefers another image as it depicts a specific role. If the image which was originally behind the article is to be used instead (and I see it is still the main image on the article), it will be necessary to change the hook. I apologize for causing such confusion. I think it may be better if in future for me to steer clear of encouraging DYKs on my creations as I find it difficult to concentrate on new articles while having to deal with problems like this. I think we should now leave it to Gerda whether to continue with this one or not. I can see it has also been demanding a lot of her time and attention and I don't want to create any more difficulties.--Ipigott (talk) 14:31, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- No problem for me at all. We can use the lead image, just moving (pictured) in the hook. It fascinated me that the other image is more directly related to the hook, and I didn't even look at its licensing because I was sure that such an old photograph is out of copyright. I'd like to know what Adam thinks. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:18, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- As you can see, SusunW, I'm hopeless at DYK discussions. Now I have just realized what your problem is. When Gerda Arendt nominated the article for DYK, she included a new image, namely File:Vaillant-Couturier Nouveautés Le coeur.jpeg, the one which is now causing problems. As the reason I created the article in the first place was because I found the image File:Vaillant Couturier Atelier Nadar btv1b531468626.jpg particularly well restored, I assumed it would be used for the DYK. I now see that Gerda, whom I admire for her wide experience of biographies of musicians and singers, prefers another image as it depicts a specific role. If the image which was originally behind the article is to be used instead (and I see it is still the main image on the article), it will be necessary to change the hook. I apologize for causing such confusion. I think it may be better if in future for me to steer clear of encouraging DYKs on my creations as I find it difficult to concentrate on new articles while having to deal with problems like this. I think we should now leave it to Gerda whether to continue with this one or not. I can see it has also been demanding a lot of her time and attention and I don't want to create any more difficulties.--Ipigott (talk) 14:31, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- I am still confused Ipigott. I have never seen any image associated with this nomination other than the one that is still on the nomination. It is titled "File:Vaillant-Couturier Nouveautés Le coeur.jpeg" and was uploaded by Tim Riley. (I did not examine any photograph in the article except the one in this nomination.) In my opinion, it definitely has a licensing issue for appearing at DYK. Perhaps Buidhe, who usually focuses on FA would be willing to look at it and advise if my analysis of this particular image is incorrect. If I am wrong, I am certainly willing to accept that and I have no desire to hold up the DYK, but I want to be sure that we have followed the "rules". SusunW (talk) 14:03, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- SusunW: I think there is some confusion here as a result of subsequent comments. As the image we originally had is now back, there don't seem to be any further copyright problems. Thanks for your additional edits on the article.--Ipigott (talk) 13:41, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- I am not sure that I understand your question Ipigott. The photo is not on commons and is marked "Do not copy this file to Wikimedia Commons" and was uploaded as Gerda noted by Tim Riley. I have done a brief scanning and all other images I can find by Atelier Nadar are on commons. So my question is now and was, why is it marked as it is? The licensing appears to be incorrect and I do not understand why it isn't on commons. What problem do images from Atelier Nadar face and why would they have different copyright status than other similar photos? SusunW (talk) 12:46, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- I see you are referring to File:Vaillant-Couturier Nouveautés Le coeur.jpeg which is now on Wikipedia. Does it not face the same problem as other images from Atelier Nadar? Perhaps Susun could comment.--Ipigott (talk) 06:50, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- I'm afraid I'm no expert on copyright. It's been on Commons for years and has been beautifully improved. Susun, you are the expert on copyright. If you think the current license in incorrect, would it not be possible to find another license which would be acceptable for such an old image. Perhaps L'Ange au Sourire who originally uploaded it would like to comment?
- We could run it with the other image, but I like that this is connected to the role. Calling GRuban and Tim riley for help. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 04:55, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- Image is fine to use on enwiki as it was publicly distributed in the 1880s, and is also ok to upload to commons since the author died in 1910. (t · c) buidhe 17:16, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you buidhe. I will try to figure out how to move it. Never done it, so be patient with me Gerda. SusunW (talk) 17:27, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- Apparently tim riley does not like Commons but you should use {{PD-France}} (exists on Commons), remove the incorrect "do not copy to Commons" notice, use the feature "Export to Wikimedia Commons", and tag the local file for speedy deletion. (t · c) buidhe 17:38, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- Buidhe it wouldn't take PD-France, kept showing up in red, and wouldn't let me transfer it, so I used the EU tag 70+ years. I have no clue how to tag anything for speedy deletion. Sorry. I am so appreciative of your help. Wiki-technology is baffling to me. Gerda Arendt, I think you are now GTG.
SusunW (talk) 17:46, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- Note to whoever moves this, I have no clue if the link to the commons image needs to be updated in this nomination or in the article. When I push on the photo, I am still getting the en.wp image. SusunW (talk) 17:57, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- That will continue to happen until an admin gets around to deleting the enwiki page (t · c) buidhe 20:20, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- I'm late to this show, but I was pinged; I also agree that this image is public domain for all the reasons stated above. It's very rare that a 140 year old image would not be; we even have https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:PD-old-assumed for 120 year old images. --GRuban (talk) 23:53, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- Buidhe it wouldn't take PD-France, kept showing up in red, and wouldn't let me transfer it, so I used the EU tag 70+ years. I have no clue how to tag anything for speedy deletion. Sorry. I am so appreciative of your help. Wiki-technology is baffling to me. Gerda Arendt, I think you are now GTG.
- Apparently tim riley does not like Commons but you should use {{PD-France}} (exists on Commons), remove the incorrect "do not copy to Commons" notice, use the feature "Export to Wikimedia Commons", and tag the local file for speedy deletion. (t · c) buidhe 17:38, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you buidhe. I will try to figure out how to move it. Never done it, so be patient with me Gerda. SusunW (talk) 17:27, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
Erasmus Schöfer
- ... that Erasmus Schöfer (pictured) was a chronicler of resistance in Germany in his main work, a tetralogy of novels based on recent history from the protests of 1968 up to German reunification? Source: several
- Reviewed: Everywhere We Go (ballet)
Created by Thriley (talk), Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) and Grimes2 (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk)at 15:17, 13 June 2022 (UTC).
QPQ done. I think we pass WP:DYKCRITd because the article appeared on "In the News" but not in bold. The article has the correct citations and no copyright problems. It is new enough and long enough. The hook is not incredibly interesting but it is verified and I cannot think of another. Bruxton (talk) 23:14, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
Ishūretsuzō
![Ikotoi, chieftain of Akkeshi, by Kakizaki Hakyō (1790)](https://web.archive.org/web/20220707071735im_/https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/ca/Ishuretsuzo_%28Ikotoi%29_by_Kakizaki_Hakyo_%28MBAA_Besancon%29.jpg/122px-Ishuretsuzo_%28Ikotoi%29_by_Kakizaki_Hakyo_%28MBAA_Besancon%29.jpg)
- ... that Ishūretsuzō depicts Ainu chieftains (Ikotoi pictured) in Qing robes and Russian military coats as well as an "Ininkari bear" (white brown bear)? Source: Qing robes & Russian military coats: the cited book Ishuretsuzo, the Image of Ezo, p. 121; white brown bears: [6]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Action bias
- Comment: Nominating now, but I shall expand today/tomorrow, thank you.
Created by Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk). Self-nominated at 13:31, 15 June 2022 (UTC).
I'd do an alt hook clarifying that Ishūretsuzō is a series of painted portraits. New, long and neutral enough, well-written. Pic is ok for main page. AGF on hook pt1, pt2 checks out (but I note they date the bear painting to 1791). Earwig picks up nothing (except to confirm hook pt1). QPQ done. Johnbod (talk) 21:20, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
- ALT 1: ... that the painted portrait series Ishūretsuzō features Ainu chieftains (Ikotoi pictured) in Qing robes and Russian military coats as well as an "Ininkari bear" (white brown bear)?
Articles created/expanded on June 11
Jacopo da Trezzo
![Jacopo da Trezzo by Antonis Mor, 1550s](https://web.archive.org/web/20220707071735im_/https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/65/Antonio_moro-retrato_de_jacopo_da_trezzo.jpg/123px-Antonio_moro-retrato_de_jacopo_da_trezzo.jpg)
- ... that the Italian medallist Jacopo da Trezzo (portrait, right) travelled to London to make his medal commemorating the marriage of Mary I of England and the future Philip II of Spain in 1554? Source: "he entered the service of the Holy Roman Emperor Charles V (1500–1558) and his son Philip of Spain (1527–1598), a major step in his career that would take him first to England and later to Spain. His portrait medals of Philip and his second wife Mary Tudor, Queen of England (1516–1558), dated 1554–55, bear allegories of the utmost refinement on the reverse and are justly famous.....Indeed it was during his stay in London that the formal appointment of Jacopo da Trezzo as escultor to Philip of Spain took place under the same terms as the royal order commanding Anthonis Mor to his salaried position as court painter. On 20 December 1554, in London, Philip signed a royal order for Mor to enter his service at a salary of three hundred escudos per annum; the same for Jacopo da Trezzo on New Year's day 1555." from Portrait of Jacopo da Trezzo (c. 1514–1589) by Anthonis Mor, Sotheby's, Lot 22, Old Masters Evening Sale, London, 4 December, 2019 (sold, £1.93 million)
- ALT1: ... that the Italian medallist Jacopo da Trezzo (portrait, right) trained two slaves belonging to Don Carlos in his workshop in Madrid in the 1550s? Source: Jordan, Annemarie, Chapter 7 in Black Africans in Renaissance Europe, K. J. P. Lowe, T. F. Earle eds, 2005, Cambridge University Press, ISBN 9780521815826, pp, 174-175
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Ishūretsuzō
Moved to mainspace by Johnbod (talk). Self-nominated at 22:06, 16 June 2022 (UTC).
Interesting article, I hadn't thought people specialized in making medals. It was newly created and is plenty large and sourced throughout. I assume good faith on the Italian and Spanish texts in the article, but I can read Sotheby's. It's neutrally written. I don't think ALT1 is focusing on overly negative aspects of the person, it's acknowledging the role of slaves, but YMMV. I approve both hooks. QPQ is provided. The portrait looks great at that size and is freely licensed in the public domain. Ciao. – Muboshgu (talk) 04:11, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 12
Roman Bunka
- ... that the German guitarist Roman Bunka studied the Arabic oud (pictured playing) mainly in Cairo and played in the band of Mohamed Mounir, for example at the New Year's concert 2000 at the Pyramids of Giza? Source: several
- Reviewed: KRNV-FM
5x expanded by Munfarid1 (talk) and Grimes2 (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 21:38, 17 June 2022 (UTC).
Article looks good. 5x expansion was performed when the subject died. The article was posted to ITN but as a "Recent Death", not a bolded news article, and therefore it retains its DYK eligibility. Article is well sourced but with German-language sources that I AGF for. Article appears to be written neutrally. All of the info presented in the hook is in the article and supported with inline citations. Is there a reason you used the spelling "Gizeh"? Not a significant matter. QPQ is provided. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:21, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
- I fixed the spelling mistake, sorry about that. Thank you for the review! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:11, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 13
Amund Dietzel
- ... that Amund Dietzel, the first professional tattoo artist in Milwaukee, learned to tattoo after he went to sea at age 14? Source: Shepherd Express, 2010: "After his father’s death, Dietzel joined one of Norway’s merchant fleets at the age of 14." + OnMilwaukee, 2013: "Finding no one tattooing here, the man a newspaper dubbed the "Rembrandt of the rind" saw an opportunity and set up shop in a number of Downtown locations over the years"
Created by Dreamyshade (talk). Self-nominated at 01:32, 19 June 2022 (UTC).
Thank you for writing the article on an interesting bloke. The image is super and I would like to see it run with the article. I am asking for a license check with another editor but it is now labeled as public domain. The QPQ is done, the article is new and long enough. The hook is interesting and verified. The article uses the correct inline citations and there are no copyright issues. We have to work (pictured) into the hook, but that comma is holding me back from inserting it. Bruxton (talk) 20:54, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Dreamyshade and Bruxton:
out of an abundance of caution, I'm going to raise concerns with ALT0 – we've had a lot of hooks claiming that something was the "first" or "only" erroneously. First, exceptional claims require exceptional sources, and I don't think that onmilwaukee.com is really reputable enough to make that claim to my satisfaction. It does cite a published book, but I can't access it – I can't say I trust it completely, but I'd be interested to see what it says. More broadly, though, getting to a city and finding no tattoo artists doesn't mean that he was the first. Either he didn't himself find any, which could well mean that there were tattoo artists out of his sight, or there actually weren't any at the time, which still means that it's possible there was a tattoo artist in milwaukee who just closed up shop before he got there. Either way, the phrasing doesn't imply that he was first. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 03:57, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
- Fair! Unfortunately the authoritative books about Dietzel by Jon Reitel are not easy to find; I don't have access to them myself. Here are a couple alts for consideration. Dreamyshade (talk) 06:10, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Dreamyshade and Bruxton:
- ALT1: ... that Amund Dietzel, sometimes called the "Rembrandt of the Rind", learned to tattoo after he went to sea at age 14?
- ALT2: ... that Amund Dietzel, a tattoo artist who worked in Milwaukee from 1913–1967, influenced the American traditional tattoo style?
Coolcool! Happy to tick ALT1 as cited and interesting, but ALT2 is both a little dryer and cited to researchgate (which sometimes does preprints). theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 08:44, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks! ALT1 is my preference too - gives a better hint of the colorful life Dietzel led. I'll update that citation with the ResearchGate link though, since I checked again and it looks like there's a better PDF link straight from the publisher. Dreamyshade (talk) 15:20, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
Shanti Devi (social worker)
- ...
that Shanti Devi was awarded the Padma Shri award in 2021 for her social work in the Maoist-affected regions of Odisha?Source: https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bhubaneswar/padma-shri-awardee-shanti-devi-passes-away-in-odisha/articleshow/88946751.cms- Reviewed:
Created by Baggaet (talk). Self-nominated at 02:30, 15 June 2022 (UTC).
- @Baggaet:. Its long enough and new enough and based on good refs. The citation offered above doesnt cover the hook fact, but reference 3 in the article does. Victuallers (talk) 21:03, 17 June 2022 (UTC) The neutral article doesnt have a clear lede but that isnt essential for a DYK nom. I discovered that she was also noticed for fixing a disease so I have boldly added an alt below. I cannot approve my own alt, but I'm quite happy to approve the first alt if that is your choice. Victuallers (talk) 07:08, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
- Victuallers, thanks for improving the article further. Can we just mix the original hook and the alt1 as
... that Shanti Devi was awarded the Padma Shri Award for her social work and eradicating the Yaws disease (pictured) in a Village in Odisha?
I don't have any issues with the Alt1 either and I'm fine with it too. Baggaet (talk) 10:00, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
- Victuallers, thanks for improving the article further. Can we just mix the original hook and the alt1 as
- Alt1... that Shanti Devi was awarded the Padma Shri Award for her social work and eradicating Yaws disease (pictured) in a village in Odisha?
Changed alt1 as suggested - all agreed and good to go. Thanks Baggaet Victuallers (talk) 10:25, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Victuallers and Baggaet:
Sorry, but just to be cautious here. For a a claim as exceptional as being responsible for a complete disease eradication, I'd expect a better source than a tweet, even if said tweet's from the president of India – is such a source available? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 04:24, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
- theleekycauldron The article states, "She was awarded the Padma Shri award on 9 November 2021 by the President, Ram Nath Kovind at the Civil Investiture Ceremony-IV, at Rashtrapati Bhavan for her social works and efforts to bring peace in the Maoist-affected Rayagada region of Odisha." That is not receiving the award for eradicating Yaws disease. An article in Google Scholar here makes me doubt the claim - "A number of Sorvoday activists - Gunanidhi Mohanty, Monmohan Chaudhury, Ramadevi, Ratan Das, Shanti Devi, Brundaban Jena, Alekh Patra, Nishakar Das, Baji Mahammad and Bishwanath Pattanayak worked for the success of Bhoodan/Gramdan movement in the Koraput district. While working for this movement they strove for the eradication of a dreadful disease, called ‘Yaws’. For this purpose the Sarvoday and Navajivan Mandal workers had to receive special training." So, it would be multiple people who worked on if it was true, but the 2014 article doesn't mention the village or say anything about Yaws being eradicated anywhere. I found nothing outside of recent Indian press for the claim. SL93 (talk) 04:55, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
- I need proof that Sankhalapadar actually exists. I can only find the village mentioned in relation to Shanti Devi. SL93 (talk) 05:15, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
- Theleekycauldron, I've added another source other than the tweet from the President which claims that she successfully cured 4000 people from Yaws in the Sankhalapadar village and another which supports that she is also known for eradication of the same disease is already present in the article. --Bears (talk) 05:36, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
- The Indian Express article seems to claim that she eradicated the disease entirely, which any number of sources would contradict. Is there a firmer source, or should we just go with the 4,000? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 05:37, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
- theleekycauldron I am thinking of posting this on the Wikiproject India noticeboard. There are only three recent sources for the claim, for work that would have happened decades ago. I found no proof that the village exists. How does this not sound like fake news? SL93 (talk) 05:41, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
- Noticeboard's not a bad idea, SL93 – perhaps there's some kind of misspelling in recent sources, because I'm also coming up suspiciously blank. Hopefully, those with more expertise than us can help out. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 05:46, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
- I posted it at Wikipedia talk:Noticeboard for India-related topics#Looking for proof that this India village exists. It all just looks so wrong to me. The 2014 article makes it clear that such similar work would have happened around the 1950s with nine other people. We even have the article Fake news in India. SL93 (talk) 05:49, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
- Noticeboard's not a bad idea, SL93 – perhaps there's some kind of misspelling in recent sources, because I'm also coming up suspiciously blank. Hopefully, those with more expertise than us can help out. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 05:46, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
- theleekycauldron I am thinking of posting this on the Wikiproject India noticeboard. There are only three recent sources for the claim, for work that would have happened decades ago. I found no proof that the village exists. How does this not sound like fake news? SL93 (talk) 05:41, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
- The Indian Express article seems to claim that she eradicated the disease entirely, which any number of sources would contradict. Is there a firmer source, or should we just go with the 4,000? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 05:37, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Victuallers and Baggaet:
- theleekycauldron I wrote User:SL93/Contradictions. Pinging Narutolovehinata5 for their thoughts - I have seen his work with contradictory sources at a DYK nomination of mine. SL93 (talk) 06:40, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
- I am admittedly not an expert on Indian topics so I would rather defer to either Indians or experts on India, but for what it's worth I saw the noticeboard message and one of the replies is that news articles may have been basing information on a press release. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 06:58, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
- There is no doubt some odd claims here. It is claimed above that this DYK claims she is "responsible for a complete disease eradication" which is clearly not the claim. Discussing that claim is off the subject here and there are thousands of villages in India that do not have articles (Ive added a few) and some that may not even be on a map (article written anyway). Does anyone have a reliable source that this village does not exist, because we would need very strong evidence to counter a reliable source. It could be that other people cleared up the disease locally and she was just randomly creditted with clearing it up - we don't know and supposition is not important. The hook doesnt say she cleared it up, it says that she was given an award for doing it. "news articles may have been basing information on a press release" - umm? thats how the news works, if NASA issues a press release to say that the moon a new crater, then newspapers report it, and Wikipedia uses one of those as a source. Victuallers (talk) 11:42, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
- Victuallers The village existing issue has been voided for a while now. The issue now is that four sources contradict each other. In regard to the article, it says, "Due to her efforts the disease was eradicated from the village". So the article does "say she cleared it up". There is a source clearly mentioning nine other people and another one mentioning that it was with her husband. We can't ignore the discrepancies in the article and they do need to be mentioned there. The article still doesn't say that she was awarded for doing it. The article says, "for her social works and efforts to bring peace in the Maoist-affected Rayagada region of Odisha." I might add the contradictions to the article myself after work as per standard Wikipedia practice for such things. SL93 (talk) 12:24, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
- The hook appears to be original research. The New Indian Express says, "Shanti was conferred the Padma Shri-2021 for serving the poor in the undivided Koraput district for the last six decades." That could include her yaws work, but that would be original research. The Indian Express says, "She is also known for the eradication of Yaws, a chronic bacterial infection." two sentences after the award is even mentioned. SL93 (talk) 12:37, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
- Its quite frequent that sources contradict each other. Good idea to add it to the article. I would be wary of alleging original research when a reliable source says "She eradicated yaws disease successfully in Sankhalapadar village near Rayagada." Personally I think the President of India is a reliable source, he may be mistaken, but there is
clearlyno evidence of "original research". This remains a good faith article based on reliable references. There is no source "clearly mentioning" .... there maybe a source that mentions something and you may have found it. I'm not sure that "discrepancies", "original research" and "clearly mentioning" are very inspiring. Victuallers (talk) 14:55, 6 July 2022 (UTC)- I don't doubt the award, but there is currently no reference stating that the president of India gave it because of the disease. I will start a discussion on the DYK talk page later today. From what I can see, the award references don't explicitly state it. SL93 (talk) 17:13, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
- Victuallers I was operating on no sleep before. I misread the tweet from the President of India. I now see, "She is the President of Seva Samaj at Rayagada, Odisha. She eradicated yaws disease successfully in Sankhalapadar village near Rayagada." after the mention of the award for her social work. I will suggest a tweak below though. I'm so sorry that I didn't realize that I was having an issue. I hope that you can forgive me. I will still work on adding two other bits of info from reliable sources per the contradictions. SL93 (talk) 22:01, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
- ALTa ... that Shanti Devi was awarded the Padma Shri Award for her social work including eradicating the Yaws disease (pictured) in a village in Odisha? SL93 (talk) 22:01, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
- Its quite frequent that sources contradict each other. Good idea to add it to the article. I would be wary of alleging original research when a reliable source says "She eradicated yaws disease successfully in Sankhalapadar village near Rayagada." Personally I think the President of India is a reliable source, he may be mistaken, but there is
- There is no doubt some odd claims here. It is claimed above that this DYK claims she is "responsible for a complete disease eradication" which is clearly not the claim. Discussing that claim is off the subject here and there are thousands of villages in India that do not have articles (Ive added a few) and some that may not even be on a map (article written anyway). Does anyone have a reliable source that this village does not exist, because we would need very strong evidence to counter a reliable source. It could be that other people cleared up the disease locally and she was just randomly creditted with clearing it up - we don't know and supposition is not important. The hook doesnt say she cleared it up, it says that she was given an award for doing it. "news articles may have been basing information on a press release" - umm? thats how the news works, if NASA issues a press release to say that the moon a new crater, then newspapers report it, and Wikipedia uses one of those as a source. Victuallers (talk) 11:42, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
- I am admittedly not an expert on Indian topics so I would rather defer to either Indians or experts on India, but for what it's worth I saw the noticeboard message and one of the replies is that news articles may have been basing information on a press release. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 06:58, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
the new alt is identical to alt1 (written and approved three weeks ago), but I can approve this one as I'm not the author now. Victuallers (talk) 23:05, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
- Theleekycauldron This can be promoted. SL93 (talk) 23:19, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
Everywhere We Go (ballet)
... that in the ballet Everywhere We Go, choreographed by Justin Peck and scored by Sufjan Stevens, a motif features dancers falling but caught by others?Source: [7][8], pp. 331-332
Created by Corachow (talk). Self-nominated at 20:55, 13 June 2022 (UTC).
This is only a preliminary review for now but I would suggest dropping the mentions of Peck and Stevens. They don't really add to the main hook fact about the dancers falling. I would also suggest proposing additional hooks because the current one is kind of on the borderline side of broad interest in my opinion. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:05, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- I just reviewed the ballet independently, sorry.
Substantial ballet story, on fine sources, no copyvio obvious. I find the collaboration of the two people fascinating, + Peck being the second person ever to be Resident Choreographer makes him worth introducing to our readers. What I miss is a time (for those who won't look up the people) and the NYCB. In the article, I suggest to have images of the two. I am not completely happy about much of reception already in the description, but understand. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:15, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- I forgot: please check the grammar of "conceptual conversation about the score would be" and "as Peck usually choreograph abstract ballets". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:42, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you both for your reviews.
- @Narutolovehinata5: As a rule of thumb I always mention the choreographer in the hook for ballets from 1909 onwards, for reasons that will take a long time to explain. Stevens is an indie singer-songwriter, not someone you'd associate with ballet, so I thought it is worth mentioning in the hook. This article took a very long time write, to the point where most things I normally find interesting enough for DYK becomes boring so I'm open to hook ideas. I did add an ALT per Gerda's suggestions below.
- @Gerda Arendt: I put the fact that he's the second choreographer in the article. I'll add photos for both in the article. The description of the ballet and the reception are sometimes very difficult to separate. None of the sources I used for the description are actually reviews, despite written by critics. I'll chop the reception section a bit. I didn't want a hook focused on the Peck-Stevens collaboration because I had a hook about that for their earlier work, Year of the Rabbit (ballet), but I just realised it was in 2020, so I included an ALT below. I thought using the server thing but I find it difficult to simplify it to a hook. I rephrased both sentences you pointed out. Added year and NYCB for the dancers falling hook below.
- ALT0a: ... that in the 2014 ballet Everywhere We Go, choreographed by Justin Peck and scored by Sufjan Stevens for the New York City Ballet, a motif features dancers falling but caught by others?
- ALT1: ... that indie musician Sufjan Stevens composed the score for the 2014 ballet Everywhere We Go, choreographed by Justin Peck for the New York City Ballet? Corachow (talk) 13:54, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
I like them both, ALT1 even better than ALT0a, - up to the prep builders. Thank you also for changes to the article which is a great gift! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:04, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
@Corachow: (edit conflict) I would still like to hear those reasons (particularly why 1909 in particular) as honestly I remain unconvinced that the mentions of the choreographers are necessary in most cases. With that said, I do think ALT1 is a better hook than the original and I think Stevens being mentioned is necessary for it to work, but I am not convinced that Peck needs to be mentioned as his mention doesn't add to the hook fact. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:04, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- I note that Gerda has already approved the nomination (and edit conflicted with the comment I was writing); however, as I still have some concerns about the hook, I would suggest that the nomination not move forward yet until Corachow elaborates on the choreographer point. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:06, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- This is my opinion and observations as a ballet audience member and it is not a policy in Wikipedia or the ballet world. First point, you don't have a ballet without a choreographer. Similarly, you don't have music without composer/songwriter, that's why they are often mentioned in hooks. Second point, 1909 is when I consider choreographer having much stronger links with their works. 1909 is when Ballet Russe was founded. 1910 is when Marius Petipa, the most important choreographer in the classical ballet era, died. Not only is this a turning point in ballet history, starting from works created around the Ballet Russe founded is when ballets are copyrighted. You can't perform it or make any changes unless the choreographer or whoever owns the rights give you permission, and whoever owns the right often send someone to make sure you dance the ballets properly. Whereas older ballets, like Swan Lake, since it is not copyrighted, you don't need permission to dance it.
- I actually haven't nominate any article about ballets before 1909 to DYK so I might change this rule if it happens. So far if I mention a ballet in an article or a hook about dancers, for the ones before 1909 I just say Swan Lake, and after I specify the choreographer, such as Robbins' The Cage.
- Also, regarding this nomination. I don't know exactly how well-known Peck is to the general public, but he won a Tony for choreographing the 2018 Broadway revival of Carousel, and recently choreograph the Steven Spielberg West Side Story, so I believe enough people knows who Peck is and finds it interesting. Corachow (talk) 15:28, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- I understand your point but I'm still not convinced that the mention of the choreographer is necessary. In addition, the 1909 cut-off seems rather arbitrary since you say it is your opinion and not something decided on by experts. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 15:44, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
repeating approval. None of the discussion convinces me that the hook would be more interesting without mentioning the choreographer. It's a great collaboration, so why would we mention only one? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:55, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- I just think it makes the hook longer than it should be, and it feels unnecessary considering the part about the indie musician writing for a ballet is already a good hook fact by itself. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 16:04, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- But it was the chorographer who initiated that, and it would not have happened without him, - he was the key person in charge. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:15, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- Again, you don't have a ballet without a choreographer. Stevens would not write a ballet score without Peck. I don't have a problem with longer hooks under 200 characters. Corachow (talk) 16:26, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- I just think it makes the hook longer than it should be, and it feels unnecessary considering the part about the indie musician writing for a ballet is already a good hook fact by itself. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 16:04, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- I understand your point but I'm still not convinced that the mention of the choreographer is necessary. In addition, the 1909 cut-off seems rather arbitrary since you say it is your opinion and not something decided on by experts. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 15:44, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- I note that Gerda has already approved the nomination (and edit conflicted with the comment I was writing); however, as I still have some concerns about the hook, I would suggest that the nomination not move forward yet until Corachow elaborates on the choreographer point. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:06, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- Sigh – normally, I'd cut some of this in prep, but ALT1a seems like a good compromise. If Sufjan Stevens bit is up front and already luring in otherwise-uninterested readers, and Justin Peck is there for the ballet heads at the back, I don't think it unnecessarily distracts. Omitting it might even make the hook feel punchy to the point of a little insubstantial (words I can't believe i'm writing). theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 16:34, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- Fair enough. I don't really agree with the mention but if there's consensus to keep it in I won't oppose. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 16:36, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 14
Messe modale en septuor
- ... that Jehan Alain composed the Messe modale en septuor as a mass for Saint-Nicolas in Maisons-Laffitte (pictured) where he was organist, for a septet of soprano, alto, flute and string quartet? Source: several
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Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 10:56, 21 June 2022 (UTC).
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Overall: New enough, long enough, neutral, sourced. Hook is interesting and picture is clear. Article is free from plagiarism (Earwig's Copyvio Detector score 13.8%, violation unlikely). QPQ has been done. JIP | Talk 16:14, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you for the review, and the patience. I reviewed now Template:Did you know nominations/Candler Building (New York City). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:02, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
Adalgisa Gabbi
- ... that soprano Adalgisa Gabbi (pictured) was successful in Poland and South America before she appeared at La Scala in Milan as Eva in the Italian premiere of Wagner's Die Meistersinger von Nürnberg? Source: several
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Created by Ipigott (talk) and Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 13:49, 20 June 2022 (UTC).
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Awaiting qpq; what are the credentials of "Casa della Musica"? thank you, Good to go, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 07:24, 22 June 2022 (UTC)Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 08:46, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you. I reviewed now Template:Did you know nominations/Stegodon aurorae. The ref is used mostly together with some other. The tour which it supports alone is also mentioned by gls, just not the exact duration. Perhaps Ipigott could add the gls source to those bits it also has. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:00, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 15
Julia Dawson
- ... that Julia Dawson's first Clarion Van (pictured) was named for Scottish socialist Caroline Martyn? Source: mentions Martyn and of course her name is in the photo
- ALT1: ... that journalist Julia Dawson's Clarion Vans spread the socialist word to British women? Source: as above
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/National Women's Day (Pakistan)
- Comment: QPQ = 2 of 2 part hook. If you see an error fix it. All changes welcome... but if you can see how the hook might be tweeked (to fit with how you would have written it) when its in the queues for the main page then please look for a more constructive edit.
Created by Madeleineog (talk). Nominated by Victuallers (talk) at 11:33, 16 June 2022 (UTC).
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Overall: @Madeleineog and Victuallers: A very nice article! Good to go with a couple of minor changes. 1st, see above. 2nd, Wikipedia's manual of style recommends using double quotes around quotations, so it would be desirable to change from single quotes to double quotes throughout the article. My preference would be for the ALT as more hooky, as it leaves the reader wondering just what the vans were for. Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 13:24, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Mary Mark Ockerbloom and Victuallers: Thanks for the review Mary. Your points are useful, but obviously neither of these are essential for DYK approval and and I think this is important to note as we will make DYK more inaccessible if new articles have to comply not only with DYK requirements but every "nice to have" in an article. I notice that you don't make the changes, this is allowed, but I've made them anyway. She seems like an interesting woman so nice to see that she now has an article and the vans are now mentioned more widely. Thx again. Victuallers (talk) 15:27, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
All issues resolved, Very Nice! Thank you. Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 18:51, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 16
Kommt her, ihr Kreaturen all
- ... that "Kommt her, ihr Kreaturen all", translated as "Come all ye creatures of the Lord", was published in Regensburg in 1687 (pictured) and is still a common hymn during Corpus Christi processions? Source: several
- Reviewed: The Vertiginous Thrill of Exactitude
Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 21:04, 23 June 2022 (UTC).
Article is long enough, was created recently and is within policy. The hook is interesting and is cited with several foreign (German) sources, but I was able to verify it since I speak the language. QPQ was done, but the hook's length is at 227 characters (not including ... or (pictured)), exceeding the requisite 200 characters. FrB.TG (talk) 15:45, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you for the review! I don't arrive at an excessive length but we can shorten:
- ... that "Kommt her, ihr Kreaturen all", published in 1687 (pictured) and translated as "Come all ye creatures of the Lord", is still a common hymn during Corpus Christi processions? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:57, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- Still at 205 characters. How about something like:
... that 1687's "Kommt her, ihr Kreaturen all" (pictured), translated as "Come all ye creatures of the Lord", is still a common hymn during Corpus Christi processions?FrB.TG (talk) 16:19, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- I don't know how you count. My DYK check has 172 for the shortened version. With pictured after the hymn, it would read as if that version was still used which is nonsense of course. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:26, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- My guess is you didn't count the Wiki-markup symbols, but WP:DYKHOOK only excludes "the ..., the space immediately following the ..., or any (pictured)" and nothing else. So using this tool, I arrived at 210 characters. I counted the following:
that "'''[[Kommt her, ihr Kreaturen all]]'''", published in 1687 and translated as "Come all ye creatures of the Lord", is still a common hymn during [[Feast of Corpus Christi|Corpus Christi]] processions?
FrB.TG (talk) 16:36, 3 July 2022 (UTC)- Do you realise that character count is a feature of every nomination? See top right, toolbox. Please use it, and indeed without mark-up and piped links, just the prose as shown. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:53, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- My bad, WP:DYKHOOK recommends another tool for counting, and the guideline does not talk about excluding Wiki-markups or piped links. The contradiction confused me. I haven‘t nominated/reviewed a DYK in five years so apologies for the mix-up.
The original hook‘s length as per this should be good to go. FrB.TG (talk) 17:05, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- Do you realise that character count is a feature of every nomination? See top right, toolbox. Please use it, and indeed without mark-up and piped links, just the prose as shown. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:53, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- My guess is you didn't count the Wiki-markup symbols, but WP:DYKHOOK only excludes "the ..., the space immediately following the ..., or any (pictured)" and nothing else. So using this tool, I arrived at 210 characters. I counted the following:
Montauk Cutoff
- ... that a community garden was legally established atop an abandoned railroad in Long Island City? Source: https://ny.curbed.com/2015/12/3/9894666/in-long-island-city-a-community-seeks-to-reclaim-an-urban-wilderness, https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/queens/guerilla-gardeners-legit-article-1.1514689
- ALT1: ... that a guerrilla garden established atop an abandoned railroad in Long Island City became legally recognized by the MTA? Source: https://ny.curbed.com/2015/12/3/9894666/in-long-island-city-a-community-seeks-to-reclaim-an-urban-wilderness, https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/queens/guerilla-gardeners-legit-article-1.1514689
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Nanfeng County
- Comment: ALT1 is a rewording of the original that I prefer, open to other ideas as well.
Created by ComplexRational (talk). Self-nominated at 12:31, 17 June 2022 (UTC).
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Overall: Article is long enough and was new enough at the time of creation. No copyvio and good sourcing throughout. Normally blogs aren't reliable enough to include as a source, but it looks like the author Derek Stadler is a respected researcher on the subject. Both hooks are cited and interesting. This one's ready! BuySomeApples (talk) 02:33, 25 June 2022 (UTC) BuySomeApples (talk) 02:33, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
- @BuySomeApples: Thanks for the review!
- I saw that Derek Stadler's blog is itself well-referenced to reliable sources (indeed reading more like a research report than a typical blog), so felt comfortable including it here. Additionally, I'll make another note here that I slightly prefer ALT1 (as it sheds more light on legally), though I'll let the coordinators decide. ComplexRational (talk) 00:20, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
Evgenia Debryanskaya
- ... that Evgenia Debryanskaya, the lesbian activist who co-founded the gay rights movement in Russia, was the first wife of Alexandr Dugin, Vladimir Putin's "Rasputin"? Source: "the creepy, enigmatic guru who has been called “Putin’s brain” or, irresistibly, “Putin’s Rasputin”: maverick “political philosopher” Aleksandr Dugin... Dugin’s first wife and the mother of his son, Evgeniya Debryanskaya, is an out lesbian who started Russia’s first gay-rights group in 1990" (Source: The Bulwark)
- ALT1: ... that Evgenia Debryanskaya, the lesbian activist who was part of the establishment of the gay rights movement in Russia, was the first wife of Alexandr Dugin, Vladimir Putin's "Rasputin"? Source: "the creepy, enigmatic guru who has been called “Putin’s brain” or, irresistibly, “Putin’s Rasputin”: maverick “political philosopher” Aleksandr Dugin... Dugin’s first wife and the mother of his son, Evgeniya Debryanskaya, is an out lesbian who started Russia’s first gay-rights group in 1990" (Source: The Bulwark)
- ALT2: ... that Evgenia Debryanskaya, the lesbian activist who co-founded Russia's first gay rights organization, was the first wife of Aleksandr Dugin, Vladimir Putin's "Rasputin"?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Mozartiana (ballet)
Created by Darwin Naz (talk). Self-nominated at 23:02, 16 June 2022 (UTC).
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Overall: Interesting article and a hook with appropriate sourcing. Passed. — Golden call me maybe? 11:54, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks! Darwin Naz (talk) 23:25, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
I'm surprised this passed as it is, certainly the hooks are not compliant as they stand. The statement that she "started the gay rights movement in Russia" is not in the article, and a claim like that requires strong sourcing. The source has the slightly different claim that she "started Russia’s first gay-rights group", not that she started the whole movement. And even that overemphasises her role, as the article states, the group was founded by 10 people, of which she was one. I'd recommend replacing "who started the gay rights movement in Russia" with an abridged version of the wording in the article - "was part of the establishment of the gay rights movement in Russia". The second hook is also ambiguous with potential subject/object confusion - was it the landlord or Evgenia who was the activist? Spokoyni (talk) 03:03, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
- Updated the first hook in response to the above comment. Darwin Naz (talk) 01:46, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
- Spokoyni, have your concerns been addressed? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 11:52, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
- Not really, only one of the two hooks has been altered, "co-founded" is not in the article, and still overemphasises her role. The article has "was part of the establishment of the gay and lesbian rights movement" - so what is wrong with "was part of the establishment of the gay rights movement in Russia"? The second hook has not been altered and the ambiguity remains. Spokoyni (talk) 11:58, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
- Only one hook is needed and I am partial to the first hook. I stand by "co-founded" as she was part of the movement and not a mere participant or hanger-on. Your suggestion is a bit wordy and I think it muddles the focus of the DYK, which was her being the wife of Dugin, Putin's Rasputin. So to cut everything short, I included your suggestion as Alt1. Let a third party decide, which hook to publish. Darwin Naz (talk) 00:55, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
- I strongly oppose the first hook as written. "Co-founded the gay rights movement in Russia" is not in the source or the article and is Wikipedia:SYNTHESIS. There is a difference between co-founding an entire movement, and co-founding a group within that movement. You accept that she was part of the movement yet oppose the wording of "was part of the establishment of the gay rights movement"? How is being "part of the movement" different to being a "participant". If the focus of the hook is to be on Dugin, then why mention her connection to the gay rights movement at all? I'd also strongly oppose a hook that focuses on her being the wife of Dugin, as it conceals her own notability and achievements. I concur on letting a third party select the hook, but I stand by my objections and would bring this up at WP:ERRORS as a inaccuaracy in the hook if it were to make it on the main page with the first hook. Spokoyni (talk) 05:54, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
- As to being a participant, somebody who shows up and holds a placard is a participant. The subject is one of the leaders, contributing to the movement not only as a leader of a gay rights group but as a leader in initiatives such as the first pride parade in Russia, film exhibitions, discussions, etc. This is a DYK and I have created a hook that would be interesting so that the page is read. You talk about the hook concealing her notability and achievement yet you object to the word "co-founder" as it over emphasizes her role. As I said, your suggestion is already written as alternative. We have stated our case, so, yes, let the third-party decide which hook to publish. Darwin Naz (talk) 00:50, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
- I strongly oppose the first hook as written. "Co-founded the gay rights movement in Russia" is not in the source or the article and is Wikipedia:SYNTHESIS. There is a difference between co-founding an entire movement, and co-founding a group within that movement. You accept that she was part of the movement yet oppose the wording of "was part of the establishment of the gay rights movement"? How is being "part of the movement" different to being a "participant". If the focus of the hook is to be on Dugin, then why mention her connection to the gay rights movement at all? I'd also strongly oppose a hook that focuses on her being the wife of Dugin, as it conceals her own notability and achievements. I concur on letting a third party select the hook, but I stand by my objections and would bring this up at WP:ERRORS as a inaccuaracy in the hook if it were to make it on the main page with the first hook. Spokoyni (talk) 05:54, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
- Only one hook is needed and I am partial to the first hook. I stand by "co-founded" as she was part of the movement and not a mere participant or hanger-on. Your suggestion is a bit wordy and I think it muddles the focus of the DYK, which was her being the wife of Dugin, Putin's Rasputin. So to cut everything short, I included your suggestion as Alt1. Let a third party decide, which hook to publish. Darwin Naz (talk) 00:55, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
- Not really, only one of the two hooks has been altered, "co-founded" is not in the article, and still overemphasises her role. The article has "was part of the establishment of the gay and lesbian rights movement" - so what is wrong with "was part of the establishment of the gay rights movement in Russia"? The second hook has not been altered and the ambiguity remains. Spokoyni (talk) 11:58, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
- Spokoyni, have your concerns been addressed? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 11:52, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
- Updated the first hook in response to the above comment. Darwin Naz (talk) 01:46, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Darwin Naz and Spokoyni: what would y'all think about ALT2? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 05:41, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
- Hey, theleekycauldron. I also like it. The link to Putin and his Rasputin makes the article current as she is no longer an activist. Thanks for contributing! Best regards, Darwin Naz (talk) 07:00, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
- If you put "co-founded" instead of "founded" (she was one of 10 people who founded that organization) then that hook is fine with me. Please note that the name and link is to Aleksandr Dugin, and not Alexandr Dugin, per no redirects on the main page. Alexandr Dugin is a half transliteration of Александр Дугин. Spokoyni (talk) 07:41, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
- Coolio!
we'll move forward with the modified ALT2. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 08:46, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
@Darwin Naz: in the article, the only mention of Alexandr Dugin being referred to as Rasputin is cited to an NPR article, but the NPR source, but the source doesn't mention this comparison. Can you supply a source for this in the article? Thanks, Z1720 (talk) 19:01, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
- Coolio!
- If you put "co-founded" instead of "founded" (she was one of 10 people who founded that organization) then that hook is fine with me. Please note that the name and link is to Aleksandr Dugin, and not Alexandr Dugin, per no redirects on the main page. Alexandr Dugin is a half transliteration of Александр Дугин. Spokoyni (talk) 07:41, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
- Hey, theleekycauldron. I also like it. The link to Putin and his Rasputin makes the article current as she is no longer an activist. Thanks for contributing! Best regards, Darwin Naz (talk) 07:00, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 17
Orrin Hatch 2000 presidential campaign
- ... that during Orrin Hatch's presidential campaign in 2000, his wife told him that his poor performance in the Iowa caucuses was a "sign from God" to end his campaign? Source: The New York Times
Created by JJonahJackalope (talk). Self-nominated at 21:00, 17 June 2022 (UTC).
The article was new enough and long enough at the time of the nomination, and is adequately sourced. The hook is interesting to a broad audience, cited inline, and verified, and no close paraphrasing was found. A QPQ has been done. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 05:51, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
The Great Wave off Kanagawa
- ... that The Great Wave off Kanagawa (pictured) is one of the most reproduced and instantly recognizable artworks in the world? Source: "This is something that can be challenged, but interestingly it's become possibly the most reproduced image in the history of all art [...] It is an instantly recognisable image" Source
Created by Golden (talk). Self-nominated at 11:58, 17 June 2022 (UTC).
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Overall: Good to go. Iskandar323 (talk) 16:57, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 18
María Chiquinquirá
- ... that María Chiquinquirá is a hero in Ecuador, because in 1794 she went to court to argue that she was not a slave – and she won? Source: Maria’s legal battles for freedom started in May 1794. She presented her case to the local court stating that even though she was a slave...
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Shanti Devi (social worker)
- Comment: Unusually no image of this Ecuadorian hero. She was one of those Women in Red but now she has an article. Please resist tweeking when its in the queues. You have your chance now to improve the hook and the article. Have a go!
Created by Victuallers (talk). Self-nominated at 23:34, 18 June 2022 (UTC).
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Overall: This article looks great! It's a very interesting biography and the sourcing, length, newness is all good. The hook is cited and interesting. IMO this one's ready. BuySomeApples (talk) 03:25, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
The hook was pulled per Wikipedia talk:Did you know#Queue 1: María Chiquinquirá. SL93 (talk) 21:52, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
- Suggest:
- ALT1 ... that María Chiquinquirá was allowed to remain free until a court heard her case, but since it never did she died a free woman?
- EEng 14:43, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
ALT1 is now cited and verified, so this can go forward again. Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 04:07, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
Bruno Pereira
- ... that Bruno Pereira, an expert in the indigenous people of Brazil, and journalist Dom Phillips, were killed while on a trip in the Vale do Javari? Source: "Bruno Araújo Pereira, a Brazilian expert on isolated Indigenous communities who led grueling expeditions into remote corners of the Amazon rainforest, was killed in an attack in the Javari Valley of western Brazil, authorities confirmed on Saturday. He was 41"
"Authorities announced that human remains retrieved from an isolated forest location belonged to Mr. Pereira and Dom Phillips, a Brazil-based contributor to the Guardian and former contract writer for The Washington Post. A fisherman this week had confessed to killing the two men as they traveled on an uninhabited stretch of river leading to the city of Atalaia do Norte, police said. The fishermen led investigators to the location where the remains were buried." The Washington Post
- Reviewed: To come
Created by Thriley (talk), Erick Soares3 (talk), and InedibleHulk (talk). Nominated by Thriley (talk) at 03:20, 24 June 2022 (UTC).
- BLPCRIME "murder" concern(s) The article should be retitled to "killings" before a conviction is reached, per the presumption of innocence, confession or not. This would better reflect such news outlets that still subscribe to such ethical principles. At the very least, tweaking "believed" to "alleged" would seem less prejudicial. InedibleHulk (talk) 06:12, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
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Overall: Article and hook looks good, and the hook phrasing has been altered to meet BLPCRIME. This one looks ready. BuySomeApples (talk) 02:42, 25 June 2022 (UTC) BuySomeApples (talk) 02:42, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
@BuySomeApples: Do you think the one word link to the murder article should be expanded to include a few more words so readers may be more likely to click it? Thriley (talk) 03:28, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
- That's a good idea @Thriley: would something like "murdered while on a trip in the Vale do Javari" work? It loses the link to Vale do Javari, but makes it more clear that it's not a generic page about murder. BuySomeApples (talk) 03:45, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
@Thriley: Please supply a QPQ. Z1720 (talk) 19:11, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
Arthur Gray (philatelist)
- ... that in 2007, Arthur Gray's £2 kangaroo and map stamp (pictured) sold for a world record price for a single Australian stamp? Source: "Kangaroo stamps bring record prices at Shreves auction of Arthur Gray collection", Glen Stephens, Linn's Stamp News, 26 March 2007, pp. 1 & 43.
- Reviewed: Olga Rudenko
5x expanded by Philafrenzy (talk) and Whispyhistory (talk). Nominated by Philafrenzy (talk) at 22:05, 18 June 2022 (UTC).
- I'll review this one.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 18:29, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
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Overall: interesting DYK on a not as much well known area (philately auctions) for the readership. The article had been 5x expanded by the nominator. QPQ is done and Copyvio unlikely per Earwig. Pic is clear and in public domain. Good to go. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 18:49, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
RateMyCop.com
- ... that a Florida resident was arrested after posting on RateMyCop.com, and prosecuted under a 1972 statute that made it illegal to publish the personal information of police officers? Source: Wired (2010)
- ALT1: ... that a bill was proposed in the Utah State Senate to hide police misconduct reports from the public after RateMyCop.com requested reports on every police officer in the state? Source: KUTV
- ALT2: ... that GoDaddy stopped hosting RateMyCop.com due to "suspicious activity", before later stating that the website reached a bandwidth limit? Source: Wired (2008)
- Reviewed: None needed (less than 5 nominations)
Improved to Good Article status by ArcticSeeress (talk). Self-nominated at 06:45, 18 June 2022 (UTC).
An interesting article, ArcticSeeress and interesting hooks to choose from! Formalities: QPQ not required, Earwig only picks up direct quotes, article appears to be reliably cited throughout, within policy, hooks directly cited in the article. ALT0 piqued my interest the most - and it's correct, because he was prosecuted, just never convicted, per source and article. As for the other two, I can confirm from the sources. I think ALT0 and ALT1 are more interesting than the ALT2 and prefer them, but I leave it to the promoter. Good to go, and thanks for working this to GA! Urve (talk) 08:24, 22 June 2022 (UTC) PS: I'm (genuinely) unsure on the image licensing on File:RateMyCop.com logo.gif because it contains a fingerprint and may meet the threshold of originality. It's been looked at by others, so I assume OK, but leaving this note.
- Revisiting this, I think a shorter hook might be better, so here's a new one:
- ALT0a: ... that a Florida resident was arrested after posting on RateMyCop.com?
- ArcticSeeress (talk) 09:22, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- Revisiting this, I think a shorter hook might be better, so here's a new one:
Assassination of Wade Perrin
... that Wade Perrin (pictured) was assassinated by members of the Ku Klux Klan the day after being re-elected? Source: "Whites in Laurensville killed at least a dozen Republicans on 20 October...among the victims was Wade Perrin, whom the vote count showed to have been re-elected to a second term in the state house of representatives.- ALT1: ... that South Carolina legislator Wade Perrin (pictured) was assassinated by members of the Ku Klux Klan the day after being re-elected? Source: Same as ALT0.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Kwaku Ohene-Frempong
Created by PCN02WPS (talk). Self-nominated at 03:12, 20 June 2022 (UTC).
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Overall: After a good look through, I think ALT1 is better as most people are likely to not know who Perrin is, so having a description is helpful. Hook is interesting and everything looks good. Happy to pass. – zmbro (talk) (cont) 00:38, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 19
Fausta Labia
- ... that after the Italian soprano Fausta Labia (pictured) worked at the Royal Swedish Opera, she appeared as Mascagni's Iris at La Fenice in Venice and as Wagner's Sieglinde at La Scala in Milan? Source: several
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Created by Ipigott (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 21:58, 25 June 2022 (UTC).
Article new enough, long enough. Hook is interesting, with two facts, both cited in the article; sources AGF in Italian and Swedish. No copyvio detected, but the Iris link is a DAB, easily corrected to Iris (opera). The restored image is provided by Swedish Performing Arts Agency as part of a cooperation project with Wikimedia Sverige. Once DAB is fixed and QPQ is completed, GTG. Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 23:07, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
- thank you, and both fixed, I reviewed Template:Did you know nominations/Natacha Aguilar de Soto. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:40, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 20
MicroOffice RoadRunner
- ... that the RoadRunner (pictured), a laptop from 1983, loaded and stored data from cartridges? Source: Ahl 1984
- ALT1: ... that the RoadRunner (pictured), a laptop from 1983, had a battery rated for eight hours of usage? Source: Ahl 1984
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Electronic Arrays 9002
Created by DigitalIceAge (talk). Self-nominated at 05:19, 20 June 2022 (UTC).
ALT2: ... that the RoadRunner (pictured), a laptop from 1983, stored data on removable RAM cartridges?
- Logic: lots of machines of the era used cartridges and that's not terribly interesting. But a RAM cart? I can't recall any other machine of the era offering that kind of thing - some game carts stored high scores and such, but even that is relatively rare. Maury Markowitz (talk) 13:43, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
- To my knowledge the only other laptop of the time that employed cartridges for data storage and software was the Sharp PC-5000, and that only had a paltry one. Cartridges were certainly common for games consoles and home computers, but for a business laptop (ostensibly all laptops back then were business laptops) I think it was quite the novelty. DigitalIceAge (talk) 17:34, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
- Indeed, point taken, comment stricken. Maury Markowitz (talk) 13:55, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
- To my knowledge the only other laptop of the time that employed cartridges for data storage and software was the Sharp PC-5000, and that only had a paltry one. Cartridges were certainly common for games consoles and home computers, but for a business laptop (ostensibly all laptops back then were business laptops) I think it was quite the novelty. DigitalIceAge (talk) 17:34, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
- Logic: lots of machines of the era used cartridges and that's not terribly interesting. But a RAM cart? I can't recall any other machine of the era offering that kind of thing - some game carts stored high scores and such, but even that is relatively rare. Maury Markowitz (talk) 13:43, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
As far as I can tell this nomination meets all requirements except for the required review of another nomination. Graearms (talk) 02:44, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Graearms: QPQ now done. DigitalIceAge (talk) 06:43, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
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Alright then, this nomination meets all of the criteria. Graearms (talk) 16:01, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
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- @Graearms: QPQ now done. DigitalIceAge (talk) 06:43, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
LaMDA
- ALT0: ... that Google engineer Blake Lemoine claims that the LaMDA neural language model has become sentient? Source: The Guardian
- ALT1: ... that the LaMDA neural language model was declared to be sentient by Google engineer Blake Lemoine? Source: The Guardian
- Reviewed: 3rd DYK nomination, exempt from QPQ
Moved to mainspace by InfiniteNexus (talk) and Jrincayc (talk). Nominated by InfiniteNexus (talk) at 06:00, 20 June 2022 (UTC).
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Overall: Very interesting article, it seems balanced in favor of the scientific consensus and is well sourced. Hooks are cited and interesting. I'm in favor of ALT0 because it's careful not to endorse the claim that LaMDA is sentient while ALT1 might be more ambiguous. Otherwise, this nom is a-go! BuySomeApples (talk) 04:08, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
- Even so, @BuySomeApples and InfiniteNexus, a Google engineer appears to be an inherently trustworthy source for those who wouldn't deign to click through. It would be like if we said:
- ... that renowned geologist theleekycauldron claims that the earth is actually in the shape of a giant DYK prep set?
- Without mentioning that I would immediately be fired from any prestigious academic posts I held, were I to spout something like that (except this claim is actually somewhat believable). Could we find a way to work in that scientific consensus opposes the claim as stated? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 11:37, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Theleekycauldron: Hmm. How about:
- ALT2: ... that Google engineer Blake Lemoine claims that the LaMDA neural language model has become sentient, though his claims have largely been rejected by the scientific community? Source: The Guardian
- It's a little less hooky IMO, but it would address your concern. InfiniteNexus (talk) 16:53, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
- Well, how about:
- ALT3:... that Google engineer Blake Lemoine was suspended after he erroneously claimed that the LaMDA neural language model is sentient?
- A little rough around the edges, but we can hedge where we need to. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 03:43, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Theleekycauldron: I guess that would work too. InfiniteNexus (talk) 00:37, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
- Well, how about:
- @Theleekycauldron and InfiniteNexus: Could we maybe try a different hook, maybe something about how the scientific community reacted to erroneous claims that LaMDA was sentient - or about how that made scientists rethink the Turing Test? BuySomeApples (talk) 21:25, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
- Here are a bunch of different options:
- ALT4: ... that scientists have widely rejected Google engineer Blake Lemoine's claims that the LaMDA neural language model is sentient? Source: The Guardian
- ALT5: ... that Google engineer Blake Lemoine's erroneous claims that the LaMDA neural language model is sentient have generated conversations on the efficacy of the Turing test? Source: Fortune
- ALT6: ... that former New York University psychology professor Gary Marcus denounced claims that Google's LaMDA neural language model is sentient as "nonsense on stilts"? Source: CNN
- ALT7: ... that Google engineer Blake Lemoine was placed on administrative leave after hiring an attorney by neural language model LaMDA's request? Source: Business Insider
- Unfortunately, the source used in ALT5 is locked behind a paywall, and I'm having difficulty finding an alternate RS. I'm not sure whether it would be appropriate to use an archived link to bypass the paywall, should that hook be selected. InfiniteNexus (talk) 22:14, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
- @InfiniteNexus: Using paywalled sources on Wikipedia is fine, and the citation template actually has a special feature to add archived links just in case they become redirects or victims to link rot in the future. The WaPo article [9] already on the page also works as an RS. I think changing the beginning of ALT5 from "Google engineer Blake Lemoine's claims" to "erroneous claims" would also solve @Theleekycauldron:'s concerns about the hook. I'd be ready to approve ALT5 once that change is made. BuySomeApples (talk) 22:41, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
- We aren't using citation templates here, so
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- @BuySomeApples: Yes, I would be fine with that removak. So the final hook would be:
- ALT8: ... that an erroneous claim that the LaMDA neural language model is sentient has generated conversations on the efficacy of the Turing test? Source: Fortune
- Thanks for the note about WaPo, I guess that was probably the case. The archived links to both sources are already in the article, FYI. InfiniteNexus (talk) 03:34, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
- @BuySomeApples: Yes, I would be fine with that removak. So the final hook would be:
- @InfiniteNexus: thank you for making that change! Although the citation template isn't used on the nomination page, it can be used in the article. (Technically it's fine anyway per WP:PAYWALL). Weirdly, the WaPo article isn't paywalled for me, but you might have reached your free article limit. Since I can access both articles to verify, I think it's fine. I wonder if we can shorten the hook a little more, right now it's 167 characters and the hard limit is 200. Are you OK with removing the "Google engineer Blake Lemoine" part and replacing it with just "an erroneous claim"? BuySomeApples (talk) 01:49, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
- We aren't using citation templates here, so
- @InfiniteNexus: Using paywalled sources on Wikipedia is fine, and the citation template actually has a special feature to add archived links just in case they become redirects or victims to link rot in the future. The WaPo article [9] already on the page also works as an RS. I think changing the beginning of ALT5 from "Google engineer Blake Lemoine's claims" to "erroneous claims" would also solve @Theleekycauldron:'s concerns about the hook. I'd be ready to approve ALT5 once that change is made. BuySomeApples (talk) 22:41, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
- Here are a bunch of different options:
- @Theleekycauldron: Hmm. How about:
Thanks @InfiniteNexus: ALT8 is approved! BuySomeApples (talk) 00:07, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
My Last Wonderful Days
... that sales of the 1956 magazine article "My Last Wonderful Days", about an Iowa woman accepting dying from cancer, funded a journalism scholarship at Iowa State University?
Created by SL93 (talk). Self-nominated at 22:41, 20 June 2022 (UTC).
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Overall: Article looks good, and hook is cited and interesting. The hook is a little wordy, but meets length requirements. BuySomeApples (talk) 04:58, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
- BuySomeApples Maybe this can be used as a shorter hook - ALT0a ... that the 1956 article "My Last Wonderful Days", about an Iowa woman accepting dying from cancer, funded an Iowa State University scholarship? SL93 (talk) 12:01, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
@SL93: I like that very much, thanks for shortening the hook! Approving ALT0a. BuySomeApples (talk) 21:28, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 21
Brandenburg (ballet)
... that Jerome Robbins's final ballet, Brandenburg, is likened to a kaleidoscope?Source: [10][11]- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Beacon Theatre (New York City)
- Comment: For 29 July, the anniversary of Robbins' death
5x expanded by Corachow (talk). Self-nominated at 19:38, 21 June 2022 (UTC).
Interesting ballet, on fine sources, no copyvio obvious. I could approve the hook, but how about the quote with the "dazzling speed"? ... and/or mention the music, because I guess the average reader of the Main page will rather allude a region than Bach music? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:48, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
- I don't fine the "dazzling speed" quote particularly interesting, but I'm adding Bach to the hook as followed.
- ALT1: ... that Jerome Robbins's final ballet, Brandenburg, is likened to a kaleidoscope, and set to excerpts of Bach's Brandenburg Concertos? Corachow (talk) 12:25, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you. First set, then likened:
- ALT1a: ... that Jerome Robbins's final ballet, Brandenburg, set to excerpts from Bach's Brandenburg Concertos, is likened to a kaleidoscope?
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:31, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you. First set, then likened:
Articles created/expanded on June 22
Mather Byles Almon
- ... that three men resigned from the Executive Council of Nova Scotia upon Mather Byles Almon's appointment? Source: "Almon became the centre of a political controversy in Nova Scotia in 1843 when Lieutenant Governor Falkland...named him to the Legislative and Executive Councils...Joseph Howe and two supporters resigned their seats on the Executive Council accusing the governor...of weighting the council in favour of the Tories. [12]
- ALT1: ... that Mather Byles Almon, a founder of the Bank of Nova Scotia, was an anti-Confederate? Source: "In 1864 Almon broke with the Conservatives and their new leader, Charles Tupper*, over the issue of confederation and became a prominent anti-confederate." [13]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/George Bellamy Mackaness
5x expanded by Z1720 (talk). Self-nominated at 23:37, 22 June 2022 (UTC).
Recently and adequately expanded, well referenced, neutral, hook facts cited. As an Australian who knows the bare minimum about Canadian history, ALT1 means very little to me in terms of significance, so I would prefer the original hook. 97198 (talk) 13:32, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
Reactive Scientific Research Institute
- ... that the Reactive Scientific Research Institute developed the Katyusha rocket launcher (pictured)? Source: [1]
- Reviewed:
- Comment: could also use “created” rather than “developed”
Created by Ilenart626 (talk). Self-nominated at 06:26, 28 June 2022 (UTC).
The page is well-referenced, long and new enough. No copyvio was observed. The prose is generally good though I made some minor edits. The hook is very interesting and supported by a reliable source but '(pictured)' should be inserted at the end (in Italic). However, the last sentence of the lead is just a bit baffling; "...and its research and development were very important for later achievements of the Soviet rocket and space programs." In what terms was it "very important"? I mean this line is just vague and even maybe POVish. --Mhhossein talk 13:18, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
- Hi @Mhhossein: and thanks for carrying out the review. Adding '(pictured)' sound fine. The last sentence of the lead is supported by the two quotations from Siddiqi and Chertok in the "Legacy" section. During my research for this article I found a number of comments on how important RNII was to the Soviet space program, so I thought it was worthwhile to include this detail in the lead. Note that I used "very important" as Siddiqi used "extremely important". What do you think? Ilenart626 (talk)
Hi Ilenart626, Ah I just noticed the quotes in the "Legacy" section which I think are compelling enough. We can go ahead with the nomination after '(pictured)' is added. --Mhhossein talk 06:12, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- Already added (pictured) see above Ilenart626 (talk)
- Hi @Mhhossein: and thanks for carrying out the review. Adding '(pictured)' sound fine. The last sentence of the lead is supported by the two quotations from Siddiqi and Chertok in the "Legacy" section. During my research for this article I found a number of comments on how important RNII was to the Soviet space program, so I thought it was worthwhile to include this detail in the lead. Note that I used "very important" as Siddiqi used "extremely important". What do you think? Ilenart626 (talk)
References
- ^ Chertok, Boris (31 January 2005). Rockets and People (Volume 1 ed.). National Aeronautics and Space Administration. p. 167. Retrieved 29 May 2022.
KFYI
- ... that a Phoenix radio station served as the springboard for future Arizona governor Jack Williams and comedian Steve Allen? Source: https://www.jstor.org/stable/41696916 and https://www.newspapers.com/clip/90942064/quirky-steve-allen-filled-local/
Improved to Good Article status by Sammi Brie (talk). Self-nominated at 17:53, 22 June 2022 (UTC).
Article long enough, and new enough as acquired GA status within time proscribed. Neutrally written, with a plethora of inline citations. No copyvio detected by myself or Earwig's tool (the lone hit is a wikipedia theft site I wouldn't be brave enough to click on). Hook is within format and is compelling, facts in hook are in article (if severely truncated) and directly supported by inline citations. QPQ complete, no image. Deserving of mainpage exposure. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 23:46, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
Eileen Collins
- ... that Eileen Collins (pictured) was the first woman pilot of the Space Shuttle and the first woman to command a Space Shuttle Mission? Source: https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/atoms/files/collins_eileen.pdf
5x expanded by Hawkeye7 (talk). Self-nominated at 05:53, 22 June 2022 (UTC).
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Overall: Article was recently expanded 5x and looks generally great. Picture is public domain and looks good. Hook is cited (straight to NASA no less) and interesting, so this one's ready. BuySomeApples (talk) 04:29, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
Lately (Divine song)
- ... that when Divine's song "Lately" topped the Billboard Hot 100 in 1998, it became the first number-one single for the performers, the songwriters, the producers, and the record labels? Source: https://books.google.com/books?id=MAoEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA76
- Reviewed: Exempt (second time nominating)
- Comment: I'm having trouble comprehending the Fivefold rule, so if I didn't meet the appropriate requirements, I'll understand.
5x expanded by ResolutionsPerMinute (talk). Self-nominated at 18:35, 22 June 2022 (UTC).
Hi ResolutionsPerMinute, you should use the DYKCHECK script to identify readable prose size. However, it does not quite work with articles that shrank a long time ago and then grew, and this is one of them. The last revision before your work starting June 15 was 1235 bytes RPS. The current version is 6801 bytes RPS (5.5x), so you satisfy this criterion. Second nomination, so no QPQ required. The hook fact checks out and there are no issues apart from the following that require repair before this page is promoted. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 00:55, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
- The paragraph starting
Irish singer Samantha Mumba
needs to end in an inline citation, as does the description of the music video. - There is a citation needed template in the Release history table.
- @Sammi Brie: Thank you for directing me to the script. Yes, I admit I may have snubbed Mumba's subsection completely, but I've taken care of the issues you've pointed out to the best of my ability. I also removed that uncited date in the release history table. ResPM (T🔈🎵C) 01:15, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
@ResolutionsPerMinute: One down, one to go. Thanks for the prompt reply. I meant that that first paragraph needed to end in a citation, not specifically that sentence. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 01:18, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Sammi Brie: Okay, I've added the proper sources. Any other comments? ResPM (T🔈🎵C) 01:25, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
It's now good! Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 01:36, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
- The paragraph starting
Cotton Blossom Singers
- ... that up to 13 groups of the Cotton Blossom Singers (a 1920s group pictured) toured through the United States at a time?
Converted from a redirect by SL93 (talk). Self-nominated at 03:59, 22 June 2022 (UTC).
Converted redirect on 21 June, nom 22 June - new enough; 3086 char - long enough; neutral; cited; no apparent copyvios. QPQ done. Photo appears to be freely distributable. Hook at 119 char is below maximum, interesting, and cited in the article. Appears to me to be GTG. SusunW (talk) 18:33, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 23
Duckport Canal
- ... that only one boat successfully made it through the Duckport Canal? Source: [14]
- ALT1: ... that the construction of the Duckport Canal was plagued by fewer insects than expected, but instead had to deal with poisonous snakes? Source: Two offline sources - Brady 2012 and Winters 1991
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Mormons vs. Mullets
Brought to GA by Hog Farm (talk). Self-nominated at 19:11, 23 June 2022 (UTC).
Article nominated on same day as successful good article review; needless to say it is within policy and sufficiently long. First hook is interesting and in the source. Normsupon (talk) 06:19, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
Oey Tiang Tjoei
- ... that Oey Tiang Tjoei once physically assaulted a competing newspaper's editor? Source: [15]: "Oey was very offended and he physically attacked the editor of Keng Po." (p567)
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Mujh Se Pehli Si Mohabbat Mere Mehboob Na Maang
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Moved to mainspace by Juxlos (talk). Self-nominated at 13:33, 23 June 2022 (UTC).
QPQ ok, Earwig and DYK Check turned out fine and article is new, hook is interesting. Good as usual. Good to go~ Nyanardsan (talk) 08:39, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 24
Discrimination based on nationality
- ... that discrimination based on nationality is an exception to anti-discrimination laws in many countries? Source: https://doi.org/10.1177%2F09240519211055648
Created by Buidhe (talk). Self-nominated at 08:14, 24 June 2022 (UTC).
Pass: article is fully eligible—itself well-written, free of copyright violations or plagiarism, and adequately cited. QPQ done. Hook strikes me as super interesting, and is also verified by source. I do wish to note however that the article is presently involved in a merge discussion, so perhaps that would have to be cleared up before this gets queued. 𓃦LunaEatsTuna (💬) 02:37, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
Adele Nicoll
- ... that Welsh shot putter Adele Nicoll was approached about taking up bobsleigh based on a social media video of her exercising? Source: [16]
Created by Joseph2302 (talk). Self-nominated at 16:39, 24 June 2022 (UTC).
- Date request: can this run during the 2022 Commonwealth Games (28 July- 8 August)? Joseph2302 (talk) 07:05, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
Meets length and newness requirements, well sourced, and an interesting hook/fact! JamieF (talk) 21:38, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
Queers Read This
- ... that roughly 15,000 copies of the anonymously published essay "Queers Read This" were distributed at the June 1990 New York Gay Pride Parade?
- ALT1: ... that Queer Nation, a group focused on combating violence against LGBT people through direct action, established its reputation by distributing the anonymously published essay "Queers Read This"?
- Reviewed: Mr. Ratburn and the Special Someone
Created by Ezlev (talk). Self-nominated at 16:31, 26 June 2022 (UTC).
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Overall: A solid article about an interesting topic. Either hook would work; personally I think the first one is more interesting. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 22:05, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
Chrysina limbata
- ... that Chrysina limbata (pictured) has a reflective silver color because of layers of chitin coating which are also chirped? Source: Regarding chitin. "Visible light reflection spectra from cuticle layered materials" and The structure that results in the gold and silver metallic color is called a chirped multilayer. Page 48
5x expanded by Bruxton (talk). Self-nominated at 22:34, 24 June 2022 (UTC).
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Overall: Article 5x expansion confirmed. Passes earwig and is adequately sourced. No close paraphrasing was found, and the hook is interesting, cited inline, and verified. QPQ done. Minor edit, as Chrysina limbata "is" not being referred to as the color, rather the beetle "has" a reflective color, otherwise nom good to go. Pseud 14 (talk) 16:33, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
William S. Messervy
- ... that in a war with the Jicarilla in 1854, acting Governor of the New Mexico Territory William S. Messervy (pictured) considered that either "their extinction or their settlement in pueblos" was called for?
Source: Leo E. Oliva, Fort Union and the Frontier Army in the Southwest: Southwest Cultural Resources Center Professional Papers No. 41 (Santa Fe: Division of History, National Park Service, 1993), p. 127, note 54- Reviewed: Broadway Theatre (53rd Street)
Created by Moonraker (talk). Self-nominated at 20:44, 25 June 2022 (UTC).
New article that was created on 24 June 2022 is 3,670 characters and nominated one day later. No copyvios detected. Article is well-sourced. Hook is 194 characters long (under 200 character max.) and is interesting. Ref 6 (verifying the hook) is a reliable source. QPQ done. Image is free and in the public domain. Looks good to go! —Bloom6132 (talk) 01:18, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
Broadway Theatre (53rd Street)
- ... that the Broadway Theatre is one of Broadway's few Broadway theaters? Source: "How To Tell Broadway From Off-Broadway From..." Playbill. January 13, 2019.
- ALT1: ... that unlike most Broadway theaters, the Broadway Theatre is actually on Broadway? Source: "How To Tell Broadway From Off-Broadway From..." Playbill. January 13, 2019.
- ALT2: ... that the Broadway Theatre has always been on Broadway, but it has not always been Broadway? Source: Bloom, Ken (2007). The Routledge Guide to Broadway (1st ed.). pp. 38-39.
- ALT3: ... that the Broadway Theatre, built as a movie theater, was rebuilt as a Broadway theater less than a decade after its opening? Source: "Mr. Moss Develops a Favorite Idea". The New York Times. March 8, 1931.
- ALT4: ... that in addition to being a Broadway theater, the Broadway Theatre has screened Italian films and Cinerama movies? Source: Multiple; see article
- ALT5: ... that prior to a 1980s renovation, the color scheme of the Broadway Theatre was compared to a coal mine? Source: Bennetts, Leslie (April 22, 1986). "Theater Gets Raves for Decor". The New York Times.
- Reviewed: The White Paper (novel)
5x expanded by Epicgenius (talk). Self-nominated at 15:15, 24 June 2022 (UTC).
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Overall: More than 5 x expanded, mostly on 23 June. Image is licensed. All points check out, and all hooks are cited. I like ALT1 and ALT2 best, but we can leave that to whoever promotes this. Quite by chance, I used a photo of this theatre when I began an article on its architect, Eugene De Rosa, ten years ago. This would be ready to go, except that I do not see a QPQ link yet, Epicgenius. Please ping me when ready. Moonraker (talk) 21:01, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Moonraker: Thanks for the review. I have done a QPQ now. On a side note, it's a nice coincidence that you created the page about De Rosa. I've taken some pictures of the Broadway Theatre, but I'm not sure if they're any better than the one on De Rosa's page. Epicgenius (talk) 00:41, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
Kiyoe Yoshioka
... that Kiyoe Yoshioka, the vocalist of the band Ikimonogakari, voiced an Eevee in the film Pokémon: Zoroark: Master of Illusions? Source: [17]ALT1: ... that singer Kiyoe Yoshioka had a voice acting role in Pokémon: Zoroark: Master of Illusions? Source: Same as the original hook- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/RockyNoHands
- Comment: Special thanks to Theleekycauldron for suggesting ALT1 over at Discord. Although somewhat longer, I have a slight preference for the original hook as it has more context (in particular, the fact that she's the lead vocalist of a band).
Converted from a redirect by Narutolovehinata5 (talk). Self-nominated at 02:26, 24 June 2022 (UTC).
... expanded, not stub, no copyvio issues, hooks in article and followed by citations to non-English sources. Both hooks okay. QPQ provided. Hook lengths okay. Could reword a little of the text to make the flow of reading better, but it seems good generally. AGF on what's in sources. Thank you. Whispyhistory (talk) 07:46, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
@Whispyhistory: Really sorry about this, but I only just now realized that I got the movie she was in wrong (it was actually Pokémon the Movie: Genesect and the Legend Awakened). I've struck the above hooks and am re-proposing them below. Is it okay if you take another look at this? Mea culpa. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:47, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
- ALT0 ... ... that Kiyoe Yoshioka, the vocalist of the band Ikimonogakari, voiced an Eevee in the film Pokémon the Movie: Genesect and the Legend Awakened?
- ALT1: ... that singer Kiyoe Yoshioka had a voice acting role in Pokémon the Movie: Genesect and the Legend Awakened?
... No worries @Narutolovehinata5:. I see you have adjusted the article. Approving ALT0 and ALT1. Whispyhistory (talk) 15:17, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 25
Deep fried egg
- ... that deep fried balut is a deep fried egg dish consisting of a fertilized developing egg embryo that is boiled with the shell on and then deep fried? Source: 1
- ALT1: ... that deep fried eggs can be dangerous? Sources: 1, p2
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Wayne Cryts
Created by Northamerica1000 (talk). Self-nominated at 00:40, 26 June 2022 (UTC).
- I am not going to review this; it looks to me like this is another overdeveloped article, really a nothing-burger. But here is the thing: scrap ALT1. Northamerica, scrap it. You know as well as I do that there is nothing extra dangerous about deep-frying eggs compared to other things. Your one source says "be careful", your other sources also says nothing about danger. Drmies (talk) 01:04, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
- Regarding
"your other sources also says nothing about danger"
above, this source used in the article, and also included in the Alt nomination sources atop as "p2", directly states, "rather than adding the eggs directly into the hot deep oil, which can be rather dangerous..." (underline emphasis mine). North America1000 01:22, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
- Regarding
- ALT0a: ... that deep fried balut is a dish consisting of a fertilized developing egg embryo that is boiled with the shell on and then deep fried?
- The original hook has "deep fried" three times and "egg" two. ALT0a reduces that to two and one. Some people may amusingly think the link is a little WP:EGGy, but I think it's fine. MANdARAX XAЯAbИAM 02:08, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
- Added another alt below. I like this one. North America1000 05:17, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
- Alt0b: ... that balut, a food consisting of a fertilized developing egg embryo that is boiled with the shell on, can be prepared as a deep fried egg dish?
- Below is a new Alt2. I think this may be the best one in terms of "hookiness". Alt2 is now my favorite choice. North America1000 12:33, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
- Alt 2: ... that in Thai folklore some sources state that the deep fried egg dish "son-in-law eggs" is served as a warning? Sources: 1, 2
I agree with the nom that ALT2 is probably the most eye-catching thing here. However, the wording feels off to me. Shouldn't it be something like "Some sources state that, in Thai folklore..." or something like that? It seems that the "some sources" here are referring to the claims about Thai folklore. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:59, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: Alt 2 is worded the way it is per the referenced note in the article, which states, "As the story goes (and, like most stories of this type, its origins and authenticity are often disputed...". As proposed in the comment directly above, the hook would then have two instances of the word "that" in it, reading as, "...that in Thai folklore some sources state that..." I view this as unnecessary wordiness, and Alt 2 is perfectly comprehensible; it's only referring to one point, not two. Yes, some sources refer to the claim about Thai folklore. I'm not seeing a problem in Alt 2, and making it more wordy and ambiguous is less intriguing. North America1000 12:51, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
- Here's Alt 3 below. North America1000 12:54, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
- Alt 3: ... that in Thai folklore some sources state that "son-in-law eggs", a deep fried egg dish, is served as a warning? Sources: 1, 2
- (edit conflict) The wording sounds really off to me. I understand that it's how it's written in the article, but it doesn't seem to match the sources I checked. ALT3 doesn't allay my concerns either. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:54, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: Seems like you don't like the "some sources state that" part. North America1000 13:00, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) The wording sounds really off to me. I understand that it's how it's written in the article, but it doesn't seem to match the sources I checked. ALT3 doesn't allay my concerns either. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:54, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
- Here's a new take:
- Alt 4: ... that in Thai folklore "son-in-law eggs", a deep fried egg dish, may be served as a warning?
- Now that's a bit imprecise, since the article and its sources claim that the practice was according to some sources and it was an alleged origin. Maybe just start the hook with some variant of "According to..."? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:54, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: Hooks are typically supposed to be a bit ambiguous, to create intrigue and "hook" readers to then read the article. That's why they're called hooks here. Here's more alts below. North America1000 06:06, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
- Alt 5: ... that according to some accounts, in Thai folklore "son-in-law eggs", a deep fried egg dish, may be served as a warning?
- Alt 6: ... that per some accounts, in Thai folklore "son-in-law eggs", a deep fried egg dish, may be served as a warning?
- As for the nomination itself, the article meets guidelines and a QPQ has been done. The hook fact is mentioned in the article and verified in the sources. The issue here isn't the hook fact (I think the fact is soid), it's really the wording. With that said, I think either ALT5 or ALT6 might work but both need a bit of copyediting to make them flow better (missing commas and all that). Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:49, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: Another alt below. I like Alt6 above, and in my opinion the commas are fine in it, but perhaps this is what you are looking for. North America1000 12:05, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
- Alt7: ... that per some accounts, in Thai folklore, "son-in-law eggs", a deep fried egg dish, may be served as a warning?
Yes, I think ALT7 is what I had closest to what I was thinking of. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:58, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
Esperanza Casteleiro
- ... that counterterrorism expert Esperanza Casteleiro used to work in human resources? Source: "La actual mano derecha de Robles se considera una experta en contraterrorismo"; "hasta ocupar la Jefatura del Área de Gestión de Recursos Humanos del CNI."
Created by Mx. Granger (talk). Self-nominated at 10:31, 27 June 2022 (UTC).
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Overall: Article is new enough and long enough. Passes earwig and is adequately sourced. No close paraphrasing was found, and the hook is interesting, straightforward, cited inline, and verified. QPQ done. Nom good to go. Pseud 14 (talk) 16:25, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
WVGB
- ... that a Federal Communications Commission examiner found that billing fraud at a South Carolina radio station "merited the severest sanctions"? Source: https://www.newspapers.com/clip/104341398/station-plans-appeal-wsib-license/
5x expanded by Sammi Brie (talk). Self-nominated at 00:59, 25 June 2022 (UTC).
Verified that the article is long enough, that there are no plagiarism concerns through the Copyvios tool and spotchecking, and that the hook is sourced in the article. Cunard (talk) 09:33, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
Burns & McDonnell
- ... that the Engineer and Architectural company Burns & McDonnell is owned 100% by its employees? Source: Burns & McDonnell’s ESOP currently owns 98% of the company – with the remaining 2% allocated to the company’s board and executive team. https://www.forbes.com/sites/darrendahl/2016/06/17/how-do-you-build-companies-that-last-hundreds-of-years-make-them-employee-owned/
- ALT1 ... that since the Engineer and Architectural company Burns & McDonnell was sold to an ESOP in 1985, it is owned 100% by its employees? as above
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Arthur Gray (philatelist)
Created by Paradise Chronicle (talk). Self-nominated at 04:35, 26 June 2022 (UTC).
Interesting company, on fine sources, no copyvio obvious. I believe that the ALT provides more context. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:37, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
Mr. Ratburn and the Special Someone
- ... that an episode of the children's TV show Arthur featuring a same-sex wedding was not aired on Alabama's PBS network? Source: Crain 2019: "Alabama Public Television chose not to air PBS’s Arthur episode that included a same-sex marriage."
- Reviewed: The Turbulent Term of Tyke Tiler
Converted from a redirect by Bobamnertiopsis (talk). Self-nominated at 20:47, 25 June 2022 (UTC).
- The article is new and long enough, sourced and neutral, and meets DYK-relevant policies – Earwig finds only quotes and titles. The hook is clear, sourced, neutral, and interesting.
This is good to go! ezlev (user/tlk/ctrbs) 16:41, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
Wayne Cryts
- ... that American farmer Wayne Cryts being arrested for removing his soybeans from a bankrupt grain elevator led to a change in legislation by Congress?
Created by SL93 (talk). Self-nominated at 23:57, 25 June 2022 (UTC).
New and long enough, QPQ done, all non-lead ¶ with citations, a copyvio check reveals no problems, hook content is interesting and is verified with a citation to a reliable source in the article. North America1000 00:35, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 26
WMXX-FM
- ... that a founder of a Tennessee radio station bought it back from the same group he had sold it to, who in turn had bought it back themselves? Source: Various (there are 4 different transactions. Hunt et al. -> Glassman (Community Service) -> CR -> Glassman -> Hunt)
- ALT1: ... that a Tennessee radio station was repurchased by one of its founders 10 years to the day after he sold it? Source: https://www.newspapers.com/clip/104046331/business-of-broadcasting-format/
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Paul Chadick
5x expanded by Sammi Brie (talk). Self-nominated at 21:49, 30 June 2022 (UTC).
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Overall: I prefer the original hook. (Sources are indeed in the article.) But ALT1 is OK too. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 10:46, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
Paix
- ... that Catherine Ribeiro's 1972 album Paix contains a nearly 25-minute-long song about meeting a female personification of death? Source: The lyrics of "Un jour... la mort", which takes up the entire second side of the album, describe "meeting" "a female Death".
Improved to Good Article status by PianoUpMyNose (talk). Self-nominated at 13:12, 27 June 2022 (UTC).
Interesting good article, on fine sources, no copyvio obvious. The hook works for me. I trust that you'll fix ref 12. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:17, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
- @PianoUpMyNose and Gerda Arendt:
I'm going to be a stickler on this one, and invoke WP:DYKSG#C6 – I think that in general, a hook about a song that only details the story the song tells falls afoul of the rule. Is there a more real-world hook to be found? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 09:04, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
I don't accept that, sorry. I think the key information is the enormous duration, wile the information duration of what is extra. Also, the female death is not "story" but telling what kind of story. - Didn't you say you wanted to go to bed? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:14, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
- As I've just added to the article, the song was inspired by a real-world suicide attempt. How's that? PianoUpMyNose (talk) 16:13, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
- @PianoUpMyNose and Gerda Arendt:
Akron Baptist Temple
- ... that Akron Baptist Temple at one point held the largest Sunday school in North America? Source: Towns, Elmer L. (1969). The Ten Largest Sunday Schools. Baker Book House. p9. "America's Largest Sunday School Akron Baptist Temple, Akron, Ohio"
- ALT1 = ... that Akron Baptist Temple repented? Source: Conn, Jennifer (May 21, 2018). "Once-segregated Akron Baptist Temple sold to The Word Church". Cleveland.com. ""It's something our church has repented of," Holland said." (referring to previous paragraph talking about segregation)
- ALT2 = ... that Akron Baptist Temple featured 6-foot tall red lettering that flashed? Source: Towns, Elmer L. (1969). The Ten Largest Sunday Schools. Baker Book House. p9. "America's Largest Sunday School Akron Baptist Temple, Akron, Ohio"
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/KFYI
Created by 78.26 (talk). Self-nominated at 00:04, 29 June 2022 (UTC).
New article that was created on 26 June 2022 is 4,165 characters and nominated three days later. No copyvios detected. Article is well-sourced. Main hook is 87 characters long (ALT1 is 35 characters; ALT2 is 74 characters); all three are under 200 character max. and are interesting. Refs 5 and 17 (verifying the main and ALT2 hooks, and ALT1, respectively) are reliable sources. QPQ done. Image is free and in the public domain. Looks good to go! —Bloom6132 (talk) 05:54, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
Death of Wishma Sandamali
- ... that in 2021 Wishma Sandamali, who was detained for overstaying her visa after seeking police protection for domestic abuse, became the 17th to die in Japanese immigration detention since 2007? Source: Asahi Shimbun, Kyodo
Created by Nardog (talk). Self-nominated at 12:25, 27 June 2022 (UTC).
New enough and long enough. Well cited. I checked a few English and Japanese sources, and I didn't find any copyright issues. I think the article is reasonably neutral, though I'll make some suggestions on the talk page about structure. The article doesn't depict the detention center in a very positive light, but neither do the facts according to the official government and media reports so there's not much that can be done. The official report is given prominent coverage and presented alongside criticism of it, and the timeline has multiple sources supporting it. With all that in mind, I don't have serious neutrality concerns. I do think the hook can be improved, partly for neutrality but mostly for readability and interest. I think the original hook can be condensed:
- Alt 1 * ... that after the death of Wishma Sandamali in 2021, 17 people have died in Japanese immigration detention in the last 16 years?
- One worry I have is that both state a fact that treats the article subject (a woman's death) as a statistic rather than as a historical event in its own right. Having read through the article, I actually think there are some really interesting facts worth pointing out that highlight the event as being worth the reader's time. One idea is:
- Alt 2 * ... that the National Diet withdrew an immigration bill after protests over the death of Wishma Sandamali in a Japanese immigration detention facility?
- — Wug·a·po·des 03:19, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for the review! Alt 1 is a garden-path sentence to me. It reads like 17 people have died in the past year or so until you reach the end. I think the same could be achieved better by simply removing the relative clause from my hook, but I wanted to include the background, which renders her fate particularly devastating.
- I wouldn't mention the bill as I'm not sure how much of a factor her death was to the withdrawal, and AFAICT the government hasn't given up on the revision (also it was withdrawn from the Diet, by the ruling coalition). What I find significant about her death isn't what changed because of it but what hasn't despite it. Nardog (talk) 05:59, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
Flag of Norfolk Island
- ... that the green on the flag of Norfolk Island (pictured) represents the territory's plentiful vegetation and fertile land? Source: The Complete Guide to National Symbols and Emblems; CIA World Factbook
- ALT1: ... that the pine tree on the flag of Norfolk Island (pictured) is native to the territory and is its official tree? Source: The Complete Guide to National Symbols and Emblems
- Reviewed: Walkeria tuberosa
5x expanded by Bloom6132 (talk). Self-nominated at 01:00, 26 June 2022 (UTC).
- NOTE: This is my first DYK review, so I would like a second opinion for this article nomination. With that being said:
Article is 2813 characters long, hook citations are good, and Earwig copyvio check found no major violations. Out of the two hooks, I find ALT1 to be more appealing, but that's just my opinion! Both hooks are good (ALT0 is 116 characters long, ALT1 is 107). Image seems good, I think flags are allowed for DYK, but if someone can clarify this, that would be appreciated! Looks ready, but a second opinion will be needed. Thank you! ActuallyNeverHappened02 (a place to chalk | a list of stuff i've done) 14:55, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
- Second opinion: hardly needs one, but since you insisted—I concur with everything said by ActuallyNeverHappaned02. Article is problem-free (as are the hooks), well-cited and QPQ done. I recommend ALT1 as the most fascinating. 𓃦LunaEatsTuna (💬) 16:08, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 27
Gaius Antius Restio
- ... that in 68 BC, the tribune of the plebs Gaius Antius Restio passed a law forbidding Roman magistrates from attending banquets? Source: Ronald Syme, "Ten Tribunes", The Journal of Roman Studies, 1963, Vol. 53, Parts 1 and 2 (1963), p. 59.
- Reviewed:
- Comment: Perhaps the lede picture can be used. No QPQ: I have nominated fewer than five articles
Improved to Good Article status by T8612 (talk). Self-nominated at 14:28, 29 June 2022 (UTC).
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Overall: Nice work @T8612:! Ancient history facts are always pretty fun, and this is a great article. I added the photo per your comment, it's free, clear and in the article, so it meets all the criteria. BuySomeApples (talk) 01:05, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
Promethean gap
- ... that the concept of the Promethean gap concerns an asynchronization between man and technology? Source: he ... terms the Promethean gap, an asynchronicity of humans and products.
- ALT1: ... that the Promethean gap concerns an asynchronization between man and technology?
- ALT2: ... that the Promethean gap was part of an attempt by Gunther Andres to conceptualize Hiroshima and Auschwitz? Source: For Anders, the U.S. service members tasked with dropping the atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki were the prime example of people caught in the Promethean gap., he was one of the few who considered Auschwitz and Hiroshima —for all their differences— within a single context".
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Chris (Friday the 13th)
Created by FacetsOfNonStickPans (talk). Self-nominated at 12:13, 2 July 2022 (UTC).
Nominated within a week of creation, long enough, everything is cited and sources look good. No copyright violations found. All three hooks are short, cited and interesting. QPQ done. Can't find any issues here! Ffranc (talk) 12:05, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
Regine at the Movies
- ... that the 2001 concert residency Regine at the Movies was re-staged seventeen years later
in 2018? Source: Regine sings movie themes Regine sings film themes
Created by Pseud 14 (talk). Self-nominated at 16:30, 3 July 2022 (UTC).
- Comments by Tbhotch
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The hook should drop the "in 2018" as it is redundant. A new and long-enough article. Earwig marks Violation Unlikely 37.5% but it's just a quote. QPQ done. I couldn't see any major issue. Good to go. (CC) Tbhotch™ 21:53, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
Flag of Saint Helena
- ... that the wirebird on the flag of Saint Helena (pictured) is the last species of bird that is endemic to the island? Source: St Helena: Ascension, Tristan Da Cunha
- Reviewed: Ge rum i Bröllopsgåln din hund!
5x expanded by Bloom6132 (talk). Self-nominated at 00:03, 27 June 2022 (UTC).
Expanded 5x and DYK-nominated simultaneously. Long enough, referenced, neutral, and no issues with copyright or close paraphrasing. Hook is sourced and interesting. The image (flag of St. Helena) displays beautifully and is in the public domain. QPQ done. Impeccable work. This is good to go. Topshelver (talk) 03:35, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
2022 British Athletics Championships
![Daryll Neita in 2018](https://web.archive.org/web/20220707071735im_/https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e7/2018_European_Athletics_Championships_Day_1_%2817%29_%28cropped%29.jpg/100px-2018_European_Athletics_Championships_Day_1_%2817%29_%28cropped%29.jpg)
- ... that at the 2022 British Athletics Championships, Daryll Neita (pictured) became the first woman since 2010 to win both the 100 and 200 metres events? Source: [18]
- ALT1: ... that at the 2022 British Athletics Championships, Daryll Neita (pictured) won the 100 and 200 metres events, but she failed to qualify for the World Championships as it was too windy? Source: Events: [19], Too windy: [20] "Sadly the raging tailwind in both races – 3.8m/s for the women and 2.5m/s for the men – was above the legal limit of 2.0m/s and so the times will not qualify for personal bests or national records."
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/TBA
Created by Joseph2302 (talk). Self-nominated at 16:17, 28 June 2022 (UTC).
QPQ not done. Article long enough and new enough, complies with core policies and has no copyvio issues.[[21]] Hooks are interesting, cited and correctly formatted. I think Alt1 is the more interesting of the two. --Ykraps (talk) 06:47, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
- Ykraps QPQ now done: Template:Did you know nominations/Columbia University sundial. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:38, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
Ruth L. Trufant
- ... that Ruth L. Trufant (pictured) sued a man for not following through on a promise to marry her? Source: She sued Williams for 50,000 after he made promises to marry her for 7 years. Finally he admitted that he had been decieveing her and was married - so could not marry her. and Lost her appeal - "Breach of Promise" suit and Suicide Bichloride of mercury poisoning on 26 April 1914.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/1982 World's Fair
- Comment: Such a sad story. Wide eyed 17 year old goes to the big city and gets wooed by a 50+ year old married man. I am open to other hooks. The newspapers had fun with it, calling her 50k law suit "Balm for the heart" And even after her death. ""Actress Dies of Poisoning When Heart Balm is Denied". This hook does not need the image to be effective IMO. There is also an alternative image here File:Ruth L. Trufant 1912.jpg Both images are free.
Created by Bruxton (talk) and Animalparty (talk). Self-nominated at 18:43, 27 June 2022 (UTC).
Interesting story, on fine sources, no copyvio obvious. I think your best bet for a hook would be to quote the headline about the $ heart balm. The image is licensed and would be a good illustration of the period. In the article, how is she an opera singer when there's no evidence of any performance? I suggest that you repeat her name for each section, because readers may come from the TOC without context. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:43, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
- One more: why is the poison capital? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:48, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Gerda Arendt: I made the changes you suggested, and per the reference I called her an "aspiring" opera singer. Regarding the heart balm - I feel bad because it feels like I am mocking her to say she needed balm/ointment for her heart. Hopefully someone can come up with a hook. Perhaps @Theleekycauldron: can be called upon to massage out a hook? Bruxton (talk) 17:56, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
- I'll wait a bit. To mention suing only seems not much nicer than heart balm, imho. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:25, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
- I think Bruxton did a great job with ALT0; simple, devoid of quirk, yet inviting and hooky. We could even not mention that he promised. I'd be iffy about a "heart balm" hook; quotes are nice because it enables us to use catchy language unavailable to wikivoice, but I think it's worth pointing out that calling the lawsuit "heart balm" strikes me as sexist, and it's not very catchy in the first place. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 19:44, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
What that man did was sexist, but as you like it.What do you think of adding "actress". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:51, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
- I think Bruxton did a great job with ALT0; simple, devoid of quirk, yet inviting and hooky. We could even not mention that he promised. I'd be iffy about a "heart balm" hook; quotes are nice because it enables us to use catchy language unavailable to wikivoice, but I think it's worth pointing out that calling the lawsuit "heart balm" strikes me as sexist, and it's not very catchy in the first place. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 19:44, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
- I'll wait a bit. To mention suing only seems not much nicer than heart balm, imho. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:25, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Gerda Arendt: I made the changes you suggested, and per the reference I called her an "aspiring" opera singer. Regarding the heart balm - I feel bad because it feels like I am mocking her to say she needed balm/ointment for her heart. Hopefully someone can come up with a hook. Perhaps @Theleekycauldron: can be called upon to massage out a hook? Bruxton (talk) 17:56, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 28
Woolly hair
- ... that woolly hair is difficult to brush? Source: "it is often impossible to brush the hair [wooly hair]...[22]
- ALT1 ... that black people don't have woolly hair?
- ALT2 ... that afro-hair is not the same as woolly hair?
- ALT3 ... that people with woolly hair may also have tooth decay?
- Reviewed: Kiyoe Yoshioka
- Comment: No hurry, still have to tidy a few parts
Converted from a redirect by Whispyhistory (talk) and Philafrenzy (talk). Nominated by Whispyhistory (talk) at 18:48, 5 July 2022 (UTC).
Meets length and newness requirements, well sourced and the included citation is adequate for all options. Personally, ALT2 or ALT3 is preferred - ALT 2 is similar to ALT1 but I think it makes the point in an understandable way, ALT 3 is interesting. Thanks for submitting!JamieF (talk) 21:52, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
Lance McCullers
- ... that doctors told Lance McCullers that he should not continue to pitch in 1990, but he returned to Major League Baseball in 1992? Source: Doctors told him not to pitch anymore: [23][24]; made it back to the majors: [25]
5x expanded by Muboshgu (talk). Self-nominated at 18:35, 30 June 2022 (UTC).
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Overall: @Muboshgu: Recently expanded, interesting hook (although I did make a minor change from and to but), no major grammatical or spelling problems in the article, and I can't really see any problems preventing this from going through. Jon698 (talk) 18:23, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
West Street Foundry, Wilson Small, Daniel Webster (steamboat)
- ... that Brooklyn's West Street Foundry, owned by Wilson Small, built the engine for Daniel Webster (pictured), which on debut in 1853 was the largest and fastest steamboat in Maine coastal service?
Created by Gatoclass (talk). Self-nominated at 12:05, 30 June 2022 (UTC).
- that the steamer was the largest and fastest on the Maine coast - sourced at the end of the Construction and design section in the Daniel Webster article.
- that the engine was built by the West Street Foundry - same section as above, third paragraph.
- that Wilson Small owned the foundry - either the Wilson Small or Foundry articles, should be easy to find.
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Overall: Nice work on all three articles. I was able to verify Small's ownership in this source, while the rest of the info is sourced to this news article. Epicgenius (talk) 18:11, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
Flag of Sint Maarten
- ... that the main colours of the flag of Sint Maarten (pictured) allude to the flag of the Netherlands, its mother country? Source: Encyclopedia Britannica
- ALT1: ... that the flag of Sint Maarten (pictured) depicts the friendship monument delineating the boundary between the Dutch and French sections of the island? Source: CIA World Factbook
- Reviewed: Walkeria uva
5x expanded by Bloom6132 (talk). Self-nominated at 01:08, 28 June 2022 (UTC).
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Overall: Recently expanded 5x, adequately sourced, passes all other criteria. Both hooks are fine, although I prefer ALT1 hook as it's more interesting than the original one. Passed. — Golden call me maybe? 14:56, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 29
Cerro Bola
... that the Cerro Bola mountain summit is the location of the television station XHDTV's transmitter?
Created by Toyonbro (talk). Nominated by SL93 (talk) at 21:57, 3 July 2022 (UTC).
- @Toyonbro and SL93:
New enough and long enough. QPQ present. This hook needs a geographic clue badly. Before I saw "XHDTV", I thought we were headed to Ciudad Juárez, and I'm a topic expert on Mexican broadcasting! A reader with no background might be extra doubly lost.
- A note to Toyonbro: Most of the short references were broken because of incorrect or nonexistent SFN keys. Note the edits I've made to fix this. See WP:SRF.
- There's one more station up there, XHPRS-FM. I've added the citation for this fact. Proposing an ALT1 which might get better views (a call sign could send people scurrying!): Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 21:30, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
- ALT1: that the westernmost population of California fan palms is found on the slopes of Cerro Bola in Baja California, Mexico?
Chiming in for SL93. Nomination is new enough, long enough, no copyvio or neutrality issues, appropriately cited. QPQ done. ALT1 hook is clear, interesting, and ready to go! Topshelver (talk) 03:30, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
Rahmah el Yunusiyah
- ... that Rahmah el Yunusiyah founded four Islamic schools for women in Indonesia despite herself being made to leave school at age 16? Source: Vreede-De Stuers, Cora (1960). The Indonesian Woman: Struggles and Achievements. Gravenhage: Mouton & Co. p. 183. ISBN 9789027910448.
- ALT1: ... that unlike some other modernizing women in colonial Indonesia, Rahmah el Yunusiyah disdained the Dutch and had no European friends? Source: Gelman Taylor, Jean (2017). "10. Breaking Dependence on Foreign Powers". Indonesia. Yale University Press. p. 297. doi:10.12987/9780300128086-014. ISBN 978-0-300-12808-6. S2CID 246152772.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Wilma Schmidt
- Comment: Very open to other hook suggestions; she was also the first woman to be made a Syeikah of Al-Azhar University and was imprisoned by the Dutch for seven months.
Created by Ganesha811 (talk) and Dan Carkner (talk). Nominated by Ganesha811 (talk) at 12:30, 6 July 2022 (UTC).
- Comment: Yes, "being" is what I intended, not "beyond", thanks for checking! —Ganesha811 (talk) 14:26, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
Pass: passes eligibility criteria, QPQ done and both hooks are within policy. Article itself is fantastic, well-written, adequately cited, and very expansive. Can confirm source via a free preview for the page on Google Books. Recommend ALT0 as I find it ironic that she was essentially forced to leave school then founded four herself. Great work! 𓃦LunaEatsTuna (💬) 02:08, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
Wilma Schmidt
- ... that the favourite role of Wilma Schmidt, who performed at the Staatsoper Hannover for more than five decades in German, Italian and Slavic repertoire, was the Marschallin in Der Rosenkavalier? Source: several
- Reviewed: Paix
Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 13:58, 29 June 2022 (UTC).
- New article, eligible per criteria 1. 3200 prose characters, so long enough to meet Criteria #2. "Several" isn't the best for source, but in the article it's cited to Staatstheater Hanover which seems reliable and fine. No policy violations, QPQ done. No problems to go ahead for DYK.
—Ganesha811 (talk) 11:59, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you for the review! The fav role and duration are sourced to Hannover, but the "nationalities" of operas to Kutsch, and I don't like to blow up the review page when a reviewer has to check sourcing - not only for the hook - anyway. Next time I'll add "in German" in such a case, as a warning. We'll se if the bot will find the hidden tick box ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:55, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
One More Cup of Coffee (Valley Below)
- ... that Bob Dylan poked Emmylou Harris when he wanted her to start singing during the recording of "One More Cup of Coffee (Valley Below)"? Source: Margotin, Philippe; Guedson, Jean-Michel (2022). Bob Dylan All the Songs: The Story Behind Every Track (Expanded ed.), p.432
- ALT1: ... that Bob Dylan wrote "One More Cup of Coffee (Valley Below)" after he visited a gypsy celebration at Saintes-Maries-de-la-Mer? Source: Margotin, Philippe; Guedson, Jean-Michel (2022). Bob Dylan All the Songs: The Story Behind Every Track (Expanded ed.), p.440
- ALT2: ... that Allen Ginsberg described Bob Dylan's vocals on "One More Cup of Coffee (Valley Below)" as "Hebraic cantillation never heard before in U.S. song, ancient blood singing."? Source: Cutler, Hugh (January 25, 1976). "Dylan offers new sound". The Morning News. Wilmington. p. H11.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/The Majestic (apartment building)
- Comment: Always open to ALT hook suggestions.
Created by BennyOnTheLoose (talk). Self-nominated at 10:56, 3 July 2022 (UTC).
New article, requisite length, neutral, fully cited, no evidence of paraphrasing. All three hooks are AGF verified, but I prefer ALT2 as I just had to go and listen to the song after reading about "Hebraic cantillation" :) Other than that, a well written and well presented article. Gatoclass (talk) 03:25, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
Statue of James Cook, Hyde Park
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that the statue of explorer James Cook in Sydney's Hyde Park is larger than Cook was himself? Source: https://www.cityartsydney.com.au/artwork/captain-cook/
Created by Thorpewilliam (talk). Self-nominated at 07:28, 29 June 2022 (UTC).
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Overall: Close paraphrasing hits at [26]. The text needs a little massaging to remove them. Gatoclass (talk) 03:11, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
- Lots of statues are larger than life, what is interesting about that? Gatoclass (talk) 12:12, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
- Afraid I don't have an answer, other than perhaps it looks relatively life-sized. thorpewilliam (talk) 02:19, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
Suggested alt:
- ALT1: ... that the unveiling of the statue of Captain Cook in Hyde Park, Sydney, in 1879 was declared a public holiday, with an estimated 60,000 in attendance? Gatoclass (talk) 02:51, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
- Gatoclass This I would also support. Please let me know if there's anything I can do particularly in terms of article improvement to enhance its chances. Also, must I now submit a new nomination using this instead? Regards, thorpewilliam (talk) 04:27, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
- No Thorpewilliam, you don't need to submit a new nomination. However, please take note of my comment above regarding close paraphrasing. There are a few clauses in the article directly copied from the source that probably need a little work. To be specific: "Interest in erecting a statue ... had been expressed for over a decade." "An estimated 12,000 joined the procession to Hyde Park and 60,000 attended ..." and "... a telescope in his left hand with his right hand extended upward". Thanks, Gatoclass (talk) 05:02, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
- I have just amended these sentences. Thanks, thorpewilliam (talk) 05:10, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
- No Thorpewilliam, you don't need to submit a new nomination. However, please take note of my comment above regarding close paraphrasing. There are a few clauses in the article directly copied from the source that probably need a little work. To be specific: "Interest in erecting a statue ... had been expressed for over a decade." "An estimated 12,000 joined the procession to Hyde Park and 60,000 attended ..." and "... a telescope in his left hand with his right hand extended upward". Thanks, Gatoclass (talk) 05:02, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
I have now completed this review, with the exception of verifying the hook for accuracy and interest, which I am unable to do as the hook was authored by me. If somebody would be kind enough to review the hook and wrap up the nomination, that would be very much appreciated - thanks, Gatoclass (talk) 09:11, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
As per the request by Gatoclass for an independent reviewer, I've had a look at the hook and it's cited in the article and interesting. As this was the only open issue, this is now good to go. Schwede66 23:58, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
HMS Chichester (1785)
- ... that HMS Chichester was designed to carry 44 guns but never carried more than 22? Source: *Winfield, Rif (2008). British Warships in the Age of Sail 1793–1817: Design, Construction, Careers and Fates. Barnsley: Seaforth. p. 183. ISBN 1-86176-246-1.
Created by Ykraps (talk). Self-nominated at 06:49, 29 June 2022 (UTC).
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Overall: Article was moved to mainspace on 29 June and nominated the same day, it is also easily long enough. Earwig looks good, and the hook is interesting but part of it is not directly included in the body of the article with a source (see above). QPQ has been completed, so this will be good to go when the above minor issue is resolved. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 17:07, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
Mary Mara
- ... that Mary Mara felt the writers of Nash Bridges "started to write for me really well about halfway through the season"? Source: The New York Times
- Reviewed: Walter Bassett
- Comment: Eligible per Rule 1d, because it is only appeared in the "Recent Deaths" section of ITN and not as a bold link.
5x expanded by Bloom6132 (talk). Self-nominated at 02:15, 30 June 2022 (UTC).
- Reviewing. FacetsOfNonStickPans (talk) 10:25, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
5x expansion checks out, new enough and long enough as well. Earwigs copyvio does pick up some content; some seem to be a clear case of content having been taken from Wikipedia; the NYT source used to cite the hook does throw up some matches in content including the hook content which seems to be valid use of the text in quotes. QPQ done. gtg FacetsOfNonStickPans (talk) 11:29, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
Hermann Gutzmann
... that Hermann Gutzmann died of sepsis after suffering a stab wound from a gramophone needle?Source: [27]- ALT1: ... that Hermann Gutzmann ran a treatment centre for soldiers with speech and voice disorders during World War I? Source: [28]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Flag of Azerbaijan
Created by Ploni (talk). Self-nominated at 20:48, 29 June 2022 (UTC).
Interesting life and work, on fine sources, and I can read the German. No copyvio obvious. I like the ALT - about his merits - much more than the quirky death. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:50, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
The Vertiginous Thrill of Exactitude
- ... that William Forsythe's ballet The Vertiginous Thrill of Exactitude is so difficult to dance that a ballerina said she would rather give birth again? Source: [29], p. 298
Created by Corachow (talk). Self-nominated at 21:28, 29 June 2022 (UTC).
Interesting ballet, on good sources, no copyvio obvious. The hook is fine as a bit sensation-grabbing. There really should be an article on the historic Frankfurt Ballet, because not every reader will position Forsythe in time and region. The article Oper Frankfurt is almost more the company than the building. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:12, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
- I agreed that Frankfurt Ballet should have an article. However, writing an article about a dance company takes a lot of time, and I'm too busy, and somehow, I never worked on an article about a dance company. I know that the Oper Frankfurt article is about the opera company, but there isn't an article about the building, so it's the best I can do, or I can just put Frankfurt as the location. I'm trying to see whether I can get an image for the ballet so would you mind putting this nom on hold for now. Sorry, forgot about that when I nominated this. Corachow (talk) 12:13, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
- No problem, prep builder, please wait! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:33, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
- I agreed that Frankfurt Ballet should have an article. However, writing an article about a dance company takes a lot of time, and I'm too busy, and somehow, I never worked on an article about a dance company. I know that the Oper Frankfurt article is about the opera company, but there isn't an article about the building, so it's the best I can do, or I can just put Frankfurt as the location. I'm trying to see whether I can get an image for the ballet so would you mind putting this nom on hold for now. Sorry, forgot about that when I nominated this. Corachow (talk) 12:13, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
Flag of Azerbaijan
- ... that the blue stripe in the Azerbaijani flag (pictured) reflects the country's Turkic heritage? Source: CIA World Factbook
Created by Golden (talk). Self-nominated at 14:58, 29 June 2022 (UTC).
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Overall: Recently promoted to GA, well-sourced and -written. Good to go! –Ploni (talk) 19:36, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
Flag of Montserrat
- ... that the flag of Montserrat (pictured) depicts Erin embracing a cross, signifying the Montserratians' love of Christ? Source: Caribbean Court of Justice
- Reviewed: Dutch invasion of Saint Helena
5x expanded by Bloom6132 (talk). Self-nominated at 00:10, 29 June 2022 (UTC).
QPQ done, article long enough, hook interesting and sourced reliably, image is free of copyright, 5x expansion happened today. Good to go! ~ Pbritti (talk) 18:22, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 30
Christchurch Wastewater Treatment Plant
- ... that Christchurch smells? Source: Visitors don't come, residents need to check the wind direction before hanging out washing and one couple can't enjoy the $8000 deck they've installed. Kurt Bayer meets locals suffering from a powerful, sickening stench. And further: "But it's not just the people of Bromley who are suffering. Sister eastern suburbs Aranui, Linwood, South New Brighton, Southshore, Dallington and on some days – depending on the prevailing winds – people right across the sprawling Garden City are all wrinkling their noses."
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Greymouth railway station
- Comment: Well, there are photos available and I've nominated one – just in case. But if this hook is accepted, it would take the quirky spot (i.e. the last one; without a photo).
Created by Schwede66 (talk). Self-nominated at 09:28, 3 July 2022 (UTC).
Article is new and of requisite length, fully cited, neutral and free of paraphrasing. I can't help thinking though, that perhaps "New Zealand" should be included in the hook, given that there are quite a few Christchurches? Gatoclass (talk) 04:39, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
- Gatoclass, thanks for the review – it's much appreciated. My thinking is that by leaving off the country, it adds to the intrigue. Yes, we'd normally include the country but for the quirky hook, I suggest that we should be a bit looser in our approach (and we very often are). Part of what makes the hook great, in my view, is that it's so short. What do you reckon? Schwede66 07:48, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
Arrival (soundtrack)
- ... that Jóhann Jóhannsson used human vocals in his soundtrack for the 2016 film Arrival to reflect the importance of language and communication in the film's story? Source: https://lrmonline.com/news/the-lrm-interview-with-arrival-composer-johann-johannsson/
- ALT1: ... that Jóhann Jóhannsson's soundtrack for the 2016 film Arrival was ruled ineligible for contention at the 89th Academy Awards due to the film's prominent inclusion of a Max Richter piece? Source: https://variety.com/2016/film/in-contention/oscars-academy-disqualifies-arrival-manchester-by-the-sea-silence-1201941479/
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/List of roles and awards of Oscar Isaac
Created by MikeOwen (talk). Self-nominated at 14:31, 2 July 2022 (UTC).
The article is new enough, long enough, referenced, neutral and no copyvio obvious. The hooks are sourced and interesting. The image in the article is fair use. Just waiting for QPQ. Corachow (talk) 19:07, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
Motion Pictures in Education
- ... that the 1923 book Motion Pictures in Education is among the first major works about using films to teach students? Source: "In the summer of 1923, Laura Thornborough and Don Carlos Ellis published Motion Pictures in Education, a book instructing teachers in how to use films in their classrooms. The book is cited by scholars of educational film as one of the first major works focused on the subject." - The Unwritten Record
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Mess L
Created by SL93 (talk). Self-nominated at 20:51, 30 June 2022 (UTC).
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Overall: Straightforward, trouble-free nomination about an obscure but notable work. I have however tweaked the hook to add the word "major" to conform appropriately with the sources. Gatoclass (talk) 03:11, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
Leo Posada
- ... that before his Major League Baseball career, Leo Posada (pictured) represented Cuba internationally in cycling? Source: [30]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Ex parte Yarbrough
- Comment: Note that this appeared in the "Recent Deaths" section of ITN, but not as a bold link, and therefore this article remains eligible for DYK per Rule 1d.
5x expanded by Muboshgu (talk). Self-nominated at 04:57, 30 June 2022 (UTC).
- Hi @Muboshgu: I hope you are well. Baseball is not my area of expertise but let's give this a try:
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Overall: Per my calculations, the article has just barely meets the five-fold expansion. The only suggestion I would make is to maybe specify in the hook where he competed (e.g., The Pan American Games) but I'm not gonna hold this DYK up over that. This is GTG. Dr. Swag Lord (talk) 06:01, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on July 1
Carver Court
- ... that Carver Court (pictured) in Coatesville, Pennsylvania, was built to house African American steelworkers during World War II? Source: National Register of Historic Places Registration Form, 2016: https://steelmuseum.org/uploads/NRHP%20Registration%20Form%2016000310.pdf
Created by Topshelver (talk). Self-nominated at 03:44, 3 July 2022 (UTC).
Created three days ago, no copyvio, 2680 characters, and cited in source. Good job! CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 02:34, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
Funk Wav Bounces Vol. 2
- ... that Calvin Harris' upcoming 2022 album Funk Wav Bounces Vol. 2 is set to include nearly 20 collaborators, including Justin Timberlake, Snoop Dogg, and Busta Rhymes? Source: Variety
- ALT1: ... that Calvin Harris' upcoming album Funk Wav Bounces Vol. 2 will be his first in five years? Source: Rolling Stone
- Reviewed: None, third nomination.
Moved to mainspace by VersaceSpace (talk). Self-nominated at 20:49, 1 July 2022 (UTC).
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Overall: Article was moved to mainspace 1 July and nominated the same day, and is long enough. Article is well-sourced and Earwig doesn't raise concerns. I prefer ALT1, as it is more interesting to me, but the Rolling Stone link above is not found in the article (as far as I can tell), so this would have to be added. No QPQ is required so this should be good to go as soon as that one issue is resolved. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 03:34, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- PCN02WPS, I've addressed your main concern. I felt that the collaborators hook was more interesting, but that can be left up to you. --VersaceSpace 🌃 13:54, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
Concern addressed so we're good to go. I'll leave it up to the prep builder as to which hook should get the nod. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 00:33, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
- It might be prudent to hold this hook until after the album's release date in August? That way, we don't seem like we're promoting it... theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 08:57, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
Supermodel (Måneskin song)
- ... that "Supermodel" by Italian rock band Måneskin is their first song done in collaboration with mainstream producers such as Max Martin? Source: https://variety.com/2022/music/news/maneskin-max-martin-supermodel-1235265647/
- ALT1: ... that "Supermodel" is about a fictional character inspired by people Måneskin met in Los Angeles? Source: https://www.nylon.com/entertainment/maneskin-supermodel-lyrics-meaning-explained
- Reviewed:
Improved to Good Article status by Infsai (talk). Self-nominated at 03:20, 1 July 2022 (UTC).
No copyright issues, reliably sourced, nominated in time, interesting hook. No QPQ required since nominator only has three prior credits. Good to go.--NØ 20:00, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Infsai and MaranoFan: I can't find the source for the idea that this song is the first collaboration between Måneskin and any kind of mainstream producer? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 08:55, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Theleekycauldron: The source is somewhere in the article, I'll link it here after I'll comeback home after 7 PM CET. infsai (talkie? UwU) 09:19, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Infsai and MaranoFan: I can't find the source for the idea that this song is the first collaboration between Måneskin and any kind of mainstream producer? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 08:55, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on July 2
Kenny Motsamai
- ... that South African MP Kenny Motsamai was a commander of the military wing of the Pan Africanist Congress during apartheid? Source: PAC veteran Kenny Motsamai joins EFF
- ALT1: ... that South African MP Kenny Motsamai was denied amnesty by the Truth and Reconciliation Commission (TRC) because his crime was not of a political nature? Source: PAC veteran Kenny Motsamai granted full parole, Electronic tag could be reason Motsamai refused parole conditions
- ALT2: ... that before the swearing-in of convicted murderer Kenny Motsamai and other MPs, the Chief Justice of South Africa, Mogoeng Mogoeng cited a constitutional requirement that prohibits convicted felons from becoming MPs? Source: Prisoner to parliamentarian: EFF's Kenny Motsamai sworn in
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- Comment: There is little to no/very limited information about Motsamai's early life. He became noteworthy for being imprisoned for killing a white traffic officer during apartheid. I managed to wangle out three hooks.
Created by Lefcentreright (talk). Self-nominated at 17:45, 2 July 2022 (UTC).
Review by LunaEatsTuna: article is problem-free, well-written, expansive—noting that little is known about his early life—free of plagiarism, and sourced with RS publications (Independent Online, News24, etc.). QPQ not required as third DYK nom. All hooks are factual and cited in article: I personally recommend ALT2 as it intrigued me the most. 𓃦LunaEatsTuna (💬) 15:54, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
Evangeline (1914 film)
- ... that the film Evangeline, based on Henry Wadsworth Longfellow's poem, was praised by Longfellow's daughter? Source: ""Evangeline" Joins Her Sisters". Boston Evening Transcript. March 3, 1914. p. 8. Archived from the original on June 30, 2022 – via Newspapers.com.
- ALT1: ... that Evangeline is the earliest recorded feature film in Canadian history? Source: Constantinides, Zoë (2014). "The Myth of Evangeline and the Origin of Canadian National Cinema". Indiana University Press.
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(help)"Evangeline". Toronto International Film Festival. Archived from the original on July 2, 2022. - Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Lance McCullers
- ALT1: ... that Evangeline is the earliest recorded feature film in Canadian history? Source: Constantinides, Zoë (2014). "The Myth of Evangeline and the Origin of Canadian National Cinema". Indiana University Press.
5x expanded by Jon698 (talk). Self-nominated at 18:31, 3 July 2022 (UTC).
More than 5x expanded, starting the day before the nomination. Sources look good and everything is cited. No copyright issues found. Both hooks are interesting, short enough and cited in the article; AGF for ALT1's paywalled source (which provides nuance in the article but doesn't really matter here). QPQ done. Everything looks good! Ffranc (talk) 12:00, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
Alexander Caulfield Anderson
- ... that Alexander Caulfield Anderson (pictured) was the first European to widen and use the Naches Pass? Source: "Anderson was the first white man to widen and then use Naches Pass, an old Indian trail, in the summer of 1841" [31]
- ALT1: ... that Alexander Caulfield Anderson (pictured), an early European explorer of British Columbia, was stranded on a sand bar for one night? Source: " In 1882, when travelling on fisheries business, he was forced by an accident to spend a night on a sand-bar." [32]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Surfing Santas
5x expanded by Z1720 (talk). Self-nominated at 17:49, 2 July 2022 (UTC).
Approve main hook and image The article had its prose 5x expanded today, making it long enough, and it is written neutrally with proper in-line citations. The Copvio Detector found no issues. The hook is short enough, interesting, and cited in-line. I think we should go with the main hook as the more interesting one. The QPQ has been done and the proposed image is in the public domain and will look fine at a smaller size presentation. Everything looks good to go! SilverserenC 22:14, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on July 3
La Maison Francaise (Rockefeller Center), British Empire Building
- ... that the British and French governments leased the British Empire Building and La Maison Francaise at Rockefeller Center after American tenants were reluctant to occupy these structures? Source: "Radio City Building Seen as Aid to Britain; Head of London Syndicate Says Offer Was Friendly Gesture by Rockefeller". The New York Times. January 8, 1932; "Rockefeller City Adds French Unit". The New York Times. March 31, 1932.
- ALT1: ... that British and French buildings at Rockefeller Center were leased to their respective governments after American tenants were reluctant to occupy these structures? Source: Same as above
- ALT2: ... that a plaza called the Channel Gardens was planted between British and French buildings at Rockefeller Center? Source: Kimmelman, Michael (April 15, 2020). "Rockefeller Center's Art Deco Marvel: A Virtual Tour". The New York Times.
- ALT3: ... that the British Empire Building and La Maison Francaise were developed as part of an international trade hub promoted by Rockefeller Center's managers? Source: Kimmelman, Michael (April 15, 2020). "Rockefeller Center's Art Deco Marvel: A Virtual Tour". The New York Times.
- ALT4: ... that the British government was the original tenant for Rockefeller Center's British Empire Building, but the French government did not rent its twin, La Maison Francaise? Source: "Radio City Building Seen as Aid to Britain; Head of London Syndicate Says Offer Was Friendly Gesture by Rockefeller". The New York Times. January 8, 1932; "France May Lease Rockefeller Space; Government Officials Studying Plans of Foreign Unit in Development Here". The New York Times. May 7, 1932
- Reviewed: Wilson Small, Daniel Webster (steamboat)
- Comment: More hooks later. I can propose individual hooks for both articles if none of these are satisfactory.
Improved to Good Article status by Epicgenius (talk). Self-nominated at 18:04, 3 July 2022 (UTC).
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Overall: Checks were all good. The original hook is may favourite of the selection, with ALT1 and ALT2 also fine. I'm less keen on ALT3 but that's OK too. ALT4 is alright, but it's much less interesting to me that "but the French government did not rent its twin" than the other hooks. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 12:51, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
Alaskapox virus
... that we are still not exactly sure how Alaskapox virus, a recently discovered relative of Monkeypox virus, has spread to humans from animals?... that public health authorities are still not exactly sure how Alaskapox virus, a recently discovered relative of Monkeypox virus, has spread to humans from animals? Source: Alaska Department of Health & Human Services Factsheet, also cited in article: "We believe that Alaskapox virus primarily occurs in small mammals. We are not sure how exactly the virus spreads from animals to people."- Reviewed:
Created by WhinyTheYounger (talk). Self-nominated at 01:22, 4 July 2022 (UTC).
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Overall: I've checked the usage of the two most cited sources and have not flagged any concerns about original research or plagiarism. Mr rnddude (talk) 03:09, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
Who's 'we'? It's certainly not us. Change '... we are still not exactly sure ...' to '... it remains unclear ...' or similar phrasing without usage of personal pronouns.- Concern addressed. Mr rnddude (talk) 03:01, 6 July 2022 (UTC)- Would it be possible to replace "we" with "public health authorities" (or just "scientists")? If not, the passive construction is fine. WhinyTheYounger (WtY)(talk, contribs)
- Yes, that works fine as well. Mr rnddude (talk) 03:34, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you. Struck through old wording. WhinyTheYounger (WtY)(talk, contribs) 19:00, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, that works fine as well. Mr rnddude (talk) 03:34, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- Minor issue resolved. Mr rnddude (talk) 03:01, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
Gentner Drummond
- ... that Gentner Drummond flew in the first combat mission of Operation Desert Storm? Source: [33]
Moved to mainspace by Muboshgu (talk). Self-nominated at 19:22, 4 July 2022 (UTC).
Verified that the article is long enough, that there are no plagiarism concerns through the Copyvios tool and spotchecking, and that the hook is sourced in the article. Cunard (talk) 09:10, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
List of roles and accolades of Oscar Isaac
- ... that in 2017, Oscar Isaac (pictured) possibly became the first Latino actor to play Hamlet in a major US production? Source: Román, David (2018). "Hamlet by William Shakespeare, and: Hamlet by William Shakespeare". Theatre Journal. 70 (4): 567. doi:10.1353/tj.2018.0113. S2CID 192052925.
- ALT1: ... that actor Oscar Isaac (pictured) contributed to the creation of his character's background history in the film A Most Violent Year (2014)? Source: Pomerance, Murray; Stevens, Kyle, eds. (2018). "Oscar Isaac in A Most Violent Year". Close-up: Great Cinematic Performances. Volume 1, American. Edinburgh University Press. p. 294. ISBN 978-1-474417-01-3.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Kommt her, ihr Kreaturen all
5x expanded by FrB.TG (talk). Self-nominated at 15:53, 3 July 2022 (UTC).
ALT2: ... that actor Oscar Isaac (pictured) appeared in over 40 films in 25 years?
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- First two yes (AGF), third no.
- Interesting:
- Other problems:
- ALT2 is not stated or sources in the article. I know it's obvious from the list itself but to use it you'd need to find a source that states it; I would just remove that hook since it's not as interesting as the other two anyway in my opinion.
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Overall: I like the first two hooks especially and there are otherwise no problems I can find. Using the copyvio detector one article did flag up with 50% but it seems to be lifting all its material from the Oscar Isaac Wikipedia page anyway. So if you can include hook three in the article with a source or if you're okay with just getting rid of it this should be good to go. mike•owen discuss 10:10, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- @MikeOwen:, we can just strike out ALT2 as the number of films an actor has done in a certain time period is not very interesting per se. Plus, it was suggested by another user. FrB.TG (talk) 10:21, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
Deja Vu (Olivia Rodrigo song)
- ... that Olivia Rodrigo and Dan Nigro wrote the song "Deja Vu" within one day? Source: Rolling Stone
- ALT1: ... that Taylor Swift received songwriting credits on Olivia Rodrigo's song "Deja Vu" after its release? Source: Rolling Stone
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Supermodel (Måneskin song)
Improved to Good Article status by MaranoFan (talk). Self-nominated at 19:55, 3 July 2022 (UTC).
- Hi MaranoFan! Nice to see you again. I'll take this review to ease the backlog.
- The article is long enough at around 12k characters, well written, and neutral. It was brought to GA quality yesterday. All sources used are of good quality; no obvious copyright violations jump out. Reviewer has done their QPQ.
- The hooks themselves are present in the article and are cited to a high-quality source. While I appreciate the Taylor Swift interpolation, I personally prefer ALT0, though I would trim down the "inspired by Notes app ideas" to make it shorter and punchier. The fact that Nigro and Rodrigo wrote the entire song in one day is interesting enough.
Good to go. elias. 🧣 💬reach out to me
📝see my work 02:57, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on July 4
KTPT
- ... that an Iowa rancher with no prior broadcasting experience decided to start a Christian radio station in Rapid City, South Dakota? Source: https://www.newspapers.com/clip/104961486/radio-station-offers-gospel-music/
- ALT1: ... that a South Dakota radio station once stunted by playing nothing but recordings of "Amazing Grace"? Source: https://www.newspapers.com/clip/104962638/how-sweet-the-sound-radio-station-to/
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Cerro Bola
5x expanded by Sammi Brie (talk). Self-nominated at 21:38, 4 July 2022 (UTC).
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Overall: --Billytanghh (talk) 18:52, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on July 5
Skirmish at Top Malo House
- ... that two Argentine commandos were awarded their nation's highest honour for the Skirmish at Top Malo House? Source: [34], [35]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Judith Ehrlich
- Comment: Sources are in Spanish.
Improved to Good Article status by Hawkeye7 (talk). Self-nominated at 23:44, 5 July 2022 (UTC).
Substantially expanded article, hook is appropriate, I believe this one is ready. WCMemail 12:52, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
Mario Salcedo
- ... that Mario Salcedo over a 20-year period spent about US$1.4 million to go on 1,000 cruises? Source: Andrews, Malcolm (2016-09-23). "US businessman Mario Salcedo runs his business aboard luxury liners". Port News. Archived from the original on 2016-09-25. Retrieved 2022-07-01.
The article notes: "For the past 20 years, Mario has run his investment company year-round from on board five start cruise ships, most of them from the luxury Royal Caribbean International. He reckons he's been on about 1000 cruises in that time, chalked-up some 6000 nights at sea, and spent in the vicinity of $1.4 million(US) doing so."
Created by Cunard (talk). Self-nominated at 09:11, 5 July 2022 (UTC).
- Article was made today, so is new enough, and is definitely long enough (impressive single edit drop). It reads neutrally, has proper in-line citations, and the copyvio detector doesn't find anything outside of the direct quotes used in the article. The hook is short enough, interesting, and cited in-line. The QPQ has been done and there's no image to review.
- Question: @Cunard: Would it be okay with you to remove the "had" from the hook? I feel like the sentence flows better without it. SilverserenC 01:32, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you for the review and the suggestion for improving the hook, Silver seren (talk · contribs)! I've removed the "had" from the hook as I agree that the hook flows better without the "had". Cunard (talk) 08:57, 6 July 2022 (UTC)