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July 11
Edits to Rege Jean Page entry
Hello, I am making a constructive Edit to a Wikipedia page and I am being told by another editor that it is not appropriate. I have explained my reasoning, and think it's in the rules and scope of Wikipedia. Can you please help me understand why these are called inappropriate? I am looking at other biography entries and see similar information being provide.d Teachr332 (talk) 01:36, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
- Teachr332, you seem to keep trying to add a recent dating relationship to the article, which you think is notable. Another editor thinks it is not, and that type of information belongs on a fansite and not an encyclopedia. There is no discussion on the talkpage of the article (Talk:Regé-Jean Page). This is a content dispute and if an agreement cannot be reached on the TP, then there are methods for WP:DISPUTE RESOLUTION. Do not continue to WP:EDITWAR, Wikipedia works by reaching WP:CONSENSUS. MB 01:56, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
- Teachr332, in my opinion, you are trying hard to add gossipy content to this article. Plus, you are pretty close to edit warring, which is behavior that can result in a block. So, I advise you to rethink your approach, and gain consensus for your proposed changes at Talk: Regé-Jean Page. Cullen328 (talk) 02:50, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
- Hi -- I am sorry, I am new to Wikipedia editing and do not wish to start a war. So thanks for letting me know how to dispute. I tried to defend my points, but it seems it needs to be done on the page. I will do that, because I believe my edits are appropriate information for a biography of a living person. Thanks. Teachr332 (talk) 02:55, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Teachr332: See also the Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle essay, which reinforces the advice you received above. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 03:22, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
- Teachr332, in my opinion, you are trying hard to add gossipy content to this article. Plus, you are pretty close to edit warring, which is behavior that can result in a block. So, I advise you to rethink your approach, and gain consensus for your proposed changes at Talk: Regé-Jean Page. Cullen328 (talk) 02:50, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
My godson wants to help edit Australian Football pages
Hi, hope you can help. My 14 yo autistic grandchild has a total passion for Australian Rules Football statistics and obscure details relating to this sport. He has an almost total photographic recall of all data relating to all past game. A few months ago, he informed me he was editing data on pages where the details e.g. the scores of a game had been incorrectly reported by the producer of the entry. I was encouraging of his efforts but quite surprised he had been able to figure out how to do the edits by himself because he still struggles with literacy skills. Anyway, this was seemingly going along well for a few months until he informed me one day he had been banned from doing any more editing but was not sure why. I told him I'd look into it and help him get over this hurdle if its possible. I have some idea to continue in this role he probably needs to be registered with the Wiki community. By the way, I cross checked a few of the statistical corrections he had made and they were always correct. Can you please advise how to proceed? I myself am an oldy but Wiki is something very precious to me and, although a pensioner, I provide a small amount of funding to this critical project every year. John Quelch Geelong, Australia 58.179.176.196 (talk) 04:38, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
- The problem is that your grandson is using his own memory, which can't be verified, a key component of Wikipedia. Other people need to know where that information comes from, and that is given by reliable sources. This means that even if what your grandson recalls is the truth, that's not how Wikipedia works. See Wikipedia:Verifiability, not truth. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 05:43, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
- Hello John, I have two blindingly intelligent and detail-focused (excuse the inadequate term!) grandchildren aged 17 and 19, so I am fully aware of the scenario. (I well remember, when our grandson lived with my wife and me, our then 12 or 13-year-old saying "Can't wait till tomorrow when we can discuss string theory, Pappa" -- and being relived that I had 20 hours to swot!). I support Tenryuu's remarks but I can envisage the day when your grandson develops more advanced research skills that will allow him to contribute verifiable material. So my advice is: encourage him to come back in say three years. And in the meantime, speaking from personal experience, you'll need to become rather familiar with the editing process in Wikipedia so you can guide him. Open an account, which makes it easier for communication, including allowing people to catch your attention -- see the clickable elements in this signature? At the Help Desk you'll find plenty of really helpful people who can guide you along the way. Suggestion: look up pre-1950s newspaper articles in Trove, the National Library of Australia's digital newspaper repository, and search for -- say -- Geelong, wait till you see something interesting then add your findings to an existing article. I'd be very interested to find any newspaper articles about industrial action and other measures that contributed to Ford's departure. :-) Cheers, Simon – SCHolar44 (talk) 07:58, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
- The advice above is excellent, but it presupposes that your grandson was actually blocked for making edits without references. If your grandson edited without having registered an account, he might have been blocked through no fault of his own: non-registered users are blocked by IP address, and IP addresses are rotated between subscribers of the same internet service provider, so a block of some IP address might have been caused by person A’s actions but fall on person B. If you can point us to an article your grandson edited (assuming it is not too high-traffic) we can check out who edited it and see if any of those editors have been blocked.
- It is not mandatory to register an account to edit Wikipedia, and edits from non-registered users ("IP users") are not supposed to be treated differently than edits from registered users. Registering does have some other advantages, such as being able to be granted some advanced permissions, easier communication with other editors, better attribution of edits, and the avoidance of IP-based blocks.
- Finally, please do not give any more money than you can safely contribute. Wikipedia (or more accurately the Wikimedia Foundation, the organization behind it) is not at any risk of folding soon; if anything, the (unpaid) editors think it raises too much money for its own good, and that the alarmist fundraising banners ("Wikipedia needs you" etc.) are deceptive. TigraanClick here for my talk page ("private" contact) 10:00, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
- Your grandchild may very well be right in the errors he finds. When he does find something that doesn't match his amazing memory, he just needs to find a published, reliable source that agrees with him. I hope that some of the published sources will be "correct". If he finds a published source, he can correct the article and cite (click here) the source. (He can't make corrections for cases where he can't find a source.) That will be the best outcome for him, and for Wikipedia's readers. 71.228.112.175 (talk) 09:22, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
Colorado Mesa University Student Trustee page deleted?
At one time there was a Wiki page that listed all of the Colorado Mesa University Student Trustees, I was using this for research, but it seems to have been deleted. I wondered if you might have a snap shot that you could send or re-create the page. Thank you. 2600:6C67:2C7F:D3F3:517F:ECA2:6C6A:AB2C (talk) 05:08, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
- The page was redirected to Colorado Mesa University after the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Colorado Mesa University Student Trustee, so it is unlikely to be re-created, but all of the content is still available in the page history – for example, see Special:Permalink/976174770. DanCherek (talk) 05:11, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
Horrified by a search suggestion
I was looking for "Prime Number Theorem" and I accidentally typed "Prime Nimber Theorem".
I was horrified by the Not Found: did you mean this suggestion. Please fix. 161.168.148.43 (talk) 09:09, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
- I'm not sure how that issue can be fixed. It is a close spelling to what you typed(albeit accidentally). There are legitimate reasons someone might search for that word. Wikipedia is not censored for any reason whatsoever. 331dot (talk) 09:11, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
- In particular, the N-word is used in several article titles. It's an unfortunate suggestion here but hard to do something about without making it more difficult to actually find those articles. I think it would be too much censorship to make a list of offensive words the search suggestion may not suggest. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:39, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
- Every mathematician knows that nimbers are never prime, hence there is no theorem. Clarityfiend (talk) 11:10, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
- Clarityfiend Does the concept of division even exist on nimbers?Naraht (talk) 14:48, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is not censored, but that still looks like an algorithm failure. The suggested search isn't an article title, and the suggested egregiously-offensive term isn't the closest match to a Wikipedia article title or to any real word. (The proposed n-word is two letters away from nimber, whereas the correct 'guess' number is only one letter different.) TenOfAllTrades(talk) 15:45, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- It appears to no longer happen [1]. Bazza (talk) 15:50, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- I don't know the algorithm but the N-word search does give two non-title results. Maybe the algorithm checks that the suggestion does give at least one result but doesn't want to spend time testing whether other suggestions give better results. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:49, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- I never saw it happen for the "Nimber" version, but it does if you use an "n" for the "m": "prime ninber theorem" - R. S. Shaw (talk) 03:27, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
Talk page archive
Hello there, when will cluebot archive my talk page? I have been having lots of issues with it but I think I have sorted it now. I set it to 1 only archive if at least 1 discussion I think, although do you know when this will be? I originally took this to the bot operator although it seems they haven’t been around since January. Thanks! Blanchey 💬 • 📝 17:53, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Blanchey: Archiving bots usually run once a day. After you reduced minkeepthreads today [2] there should be something to archive in the next run. The time of day for a specific page can vary. You can come back if it hasn't archived in two days. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:09, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
- You can also perform the archiving manually if required. You may wish to enquire about how to do that. Pablothepenguin (talk) 19:14, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
Wikipedia Library
Since I've been a user on Wikipedia for about 6 months, I'm now elegible for the wikipedia library. Can anybody of you please tell me what is it about and what is its use? ~~~~ ♡Shenshouting♡talk and talk 18:09, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Shenshouting: The Wikipedia Library lets you access sources in certain databases on websites like JSTOR, ProQuest, De Gruyter, and much more. This can be really helpful if you are trying to locate or access sources for an article, because they would otherwise be behind a paywall. Wikipedia:The Wikipedia Library has more information about it, so I recommend trying it out and seeing the available databases for yourself. (There are some collections that automatically come with TWL, and others that you can apply for if you want to access them.) DanCherek (talk) 18:15, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
Thanks ♡Shenshouting♡talk and talk 18:30, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
Is this a CopyVio?
On the page for Montcuq, there was an external link to a DailyMotion video, which I'm pretty sure was not properly licenced from the copyright holders. I removed it already
Was this a copyright violaion? QuickQuokka [talk • contribs] 20:28, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
- @QuickQuokka: Yes. Linking to copyright violations is no different from adding them to the article directly. (See also WP:ELNEVER.) —Jéské Couriano v^_^v a little blue Bori 21:42, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
July 12
Syntax highlighting for editor on mobile view
I have enabled syntax highlighting for the 2017 wikitext editor. However, when I open the mobile edit screen, it does not have syntax highlighting. How can I enable it? I don't see any button for that. weeklyd3 (message me | my contributions) 04:16, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
- If you want to use the 2017 wikitext editor, you'll have to edit through https://en.wikipedia.org instead of through https://en.m.wikipedia.org. The mobile editor is not the same as the 2017 wikitext editor. Rummskartoffel 16:04, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
Rollback question
If one has twinkle, why would they ever need the rollback user right—how different is it from the twinkle version? Aza24 (talk) 04:51, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
- If I'm not wrong, Twinkle rollback looks at the history and then uses undo to revert. This results in two requests. Rollback uses one request only. When I was granted Rollback, it wasn't very different from Twinkle, except it doesn't let you un-mark it as a minor edit.
- However, Rollback is required to use some tools like SWViewer and Wikipedia:Huggle. weeklyd3 (message me | my contributions) 05:29, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
Faulty article
Hi, there seems to be a faulty statement at the beginning of the page Domestic, it seems to summarize the definition in a problematic way.
Kind regards. Murky debate 990 (talk) 11:43, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
- I'm not sure what you think is "faulty", Murky debate 990 but whatever it is you should specify it in more detail at Talk:Domestic violence against men and see if other editors can reach a WP:CONSENSUS with you to change the text. You could WP:PING a few of the others who have made recent contributions to that article. It has 139 page watchers, so plenty of other editors are interested in it. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:52, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
Can you ask for a undelete after somebody has recreated the page with a redirect
Can you do a Requests for undeletion request if somebody has recreated the page you want to restore again and added a redirect? Does that mean the 2nd last version I would like to go back to is wiped permanently. Aaron106 (talk) 13:02, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, REFUND is willing to handle this kind of request. I have no idea what your second sentence means. * Pppery * it has begun... 13:30, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
- Aaron106 It would be helpful if you provided a link to the name of the article that has become a redirect. Then we could look at its page history, where the older version may well be present. Very little in Wikipedia is gone forever if you know where to look (although stuff like WP:COPYVIO may well be WP:REVDEL). Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:43, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
- And, indeed, what you are looking for seems to be here Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:46, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
- Aaron106 It would be helpful if you provided a link to the name of the article that has become a redirect. Then we could look at its page history, where the older version may well be present. Very little in Wikipedia is gone forever if you know where to look (although stuff like WP:COPYVIO may well be WP:REVDEL). Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:43, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
Mike Turnbull Kinda, but I forgot to go through Requests for undeletion page first. The page has been deleted since 2019 with somebody recreating with a redirect in 2020 but that's basically what it showed. --Aaron106 (talk) 13:49, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
Mike Turnbull My question is it is possible to restore 2019 version of the page after it got deleted with somebody recreating the page in 2020. If you were a administrator, is this possible to do --Aaron106 (talk) 14:09, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, it should be according to the deletion logs here (I am not an admin). Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:13, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
What to do if you think someone is targeting an article maliciously ?
Hello,
I am the subject of a wikipedia article - Nicola Green
Much of the information is incorrect or out of date. I intend to follow wikipedia’s guidelines and I will not directly edit this article. I have been advised to make suggestions on the talk page in order to improve the overall quality of this article and help (if I can) to ensure there are no factual errors.
I have followed all of wikipedia's guidelines and protocols, and yet a single editor continues to remove any edits made (despite them being approved by other editors on the talk page).
They constantly target this article, and yet, when other editors make incorrect changes to this article, this editor does not remove the factual inaccuracies. They seem to monitor my edits with such tenacity that I believe they have malicious intentions. Could someone please advise me how to proceed? Is there anyway I can stop this person from constantly removing all the changes to this article? Or perhaps there is more advice I can follow in order to have this page updated. Once the necessary changes are made is it possible to protect this page from the malicious editor?
Thank you so much NicolaGreen72 (talk) 13:08, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
- Follow up at Wikipedia:Teahouse#What_to_do_if_you_think_someone_is_targeting_an_article_maliciously_? to keep all replies in one place. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:22, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
- Thank so much. Sorry for double posting, I wasn't sure which page to use. NicolaGreen72 (talk) 13:29, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
- @NicolaGreen72: I see the discussion you are having on the talk page with @Justlettersandnumbers:. He is a very experienced editor and is not a vandal. I haven't read the edit requests and have no opinion as to what you are asking, but there's probably a good reason they were not implemented. You either need to find better corroborating sources, or change the requests. One thing you should never do is edit yourself. It can be frustrating, but these policies are in place to keep anyone from doing whatever they want to change their articles, including whitewashing and removing reliable content that might be seen as negative. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 01:02, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- Thank so much. Sorry for double posting, I wasn't sure which page to use. NicolaGreen72 (talk) 13:29, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
whats missing here
please tell which droneship mission till starlink 3-1 is missing on Autonomous spaceport drone ship page's vessel mission section. This https://spacexfleet.com/droneship-data tells us till 94 attempts, remove 2 cancelled attempts form 92 but my count says 91 for starlink 4-11. Please help out. Chinakpradhan (talk) 15:32, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
- There is already a section about this at Talk:Autonomous spaceport drone ship. I'm not quite sure what all of this involves, so maybe other users can have a look at the relevant talk page.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 15:57, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
- ok Chinakpradhan (talk) 16:22, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
A few errors in a PDF file
File:Gauge Chart.pdf contains (at least) a couple of errors, probably typos. As I cannot seem to access any of the originals, I can't find if the errors were introduced by 'quoting' the table, or are actually errors in the original. I've no idea how to proceed here. (even the ISBN mentioned doesn't seem to exist 0-9720525-0-X)
Errors:
AWG 39 (first column):
Columns 3 and 4 are equal (one should be the other converted to metric)
SWG 0 (column 7):
Column 3 states 0.82296, should be 8.2296
Johncc330 (talk) 15:36, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Johncc330: Maybe delete the file on commons completely as a probable copyvio. See this. -Arch dude (talk) 19:55, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
- See also User:Rafti Institute. -Arch dude (talk) 20:00, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
- Mmmm. I would rather look for a less violent solution. The file does not show any intentional malice, and is quite useful. It also combines several more wire gauge systems, which is of educational value. I'll see if I can get the definition of the other systems and generate correct version of the table. Johncc330 (talk) 04:20, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Johncc330:That would be ideal. Please provide references to reliable sources when you do this. I'm not sure that a PDF on Commons is the best place for your work. Maybe create a very short Wikibook? I almost think this should be an actual Wikipedia article, but it doesn't quite feel like an encyclopedia article. What we really need is a WMF project to create an Open Source version of the "Handbook of Chemistry and Physics." -Arch dude (talk) 06:02, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
- Mmmm. I would rather look for a less violent solution. The file does not show any intentional malice, and is quite useful. It also combines several more wire gauge systems, which is of educational value. I'll see if I can get the definition of the other systems and generate correct version of the table. Johncc330 (talk) 04:20, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
Convert template of MPH to KM per hour?
I recently created Arthur P. Yates and want to convert the 112.5 miles per hour to km per hour. Can someone put that in. Thanks.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:55, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
- Done * Pppery * it has begun... 21:07, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
Question about importing and the abuse filter (cross post from Wikiquote, Meta)
Can using the import
or importupload
user rights ever trip the abuse filter? – Ilovemydoodle (talk) 21:58, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Ilovemydoodle The list of actions that an abuse filter can check against are given at mw:Extension:AbuseFilter/Rules format#Built-in variables. From the documentation it doesn't appear that the "import" action is available to check against, presumably because it's a restricted right given only to admins/importers so it shouldn't be available for disruption. 192.76.8.85 (talk) 10:47, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
My edits are removed - Please help
Dear Sir, I have made some edits but they have disappeared.(Redacted) and I have added an accurate edit to the Atlanta airport Wikipedia site and after a few hours, the edits have disappeared.In the airlines and destinations chapter of the Wikipedia page, I added Delhi to Delta Airlines and delta airlines does fly to Delhi via Amsterdam and delta airlines flies both legs and I have proof below https://www.delta.com/complete-purchase/trip-summary?cacheKeySuffix=a47644e6-be5c-49c3-9921-030ec1180f8f&cartId=da56b037-d248-4859-b398-94e74b723017&app=sl-sho
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hartsfield%E2%80%93Jackson_Atlanta_International_Airport Please help in allowing me to update the wikipedia artice. Sincerely From, SpongBob1230 SpongBob1230 (talk) 22:18, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
- Delta does not fly to anywhere in India and booking engines are not reliable sources. They are not bookable and only operated by codeshare partners VS and KLM via AMS/LHR. Rzxz0839 (talk) 01:08, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
July 13
Add to a profile
My dad Bernard Toone has passed away and he does not have anyone listed on is Wilipedia as family. He has a Sister Kim Toone and a Brother Christopher Toone along with he two twin daughters JeNelle Watkins and JeNette Watkins. How can we get this added to his Wikipedia? 2601:5C1:8201:7010:D84F:EE1F:5AF7:D8C6 (talk) 00:44, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- Courtesy link: Bernard Toone --Orange Mike | Talk 00:57, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- @2601:5C1:8201:7010:D84F:EE1F:5AF7:D8C6: Sorry to hear about your dad. For his article, we can only add information that is properly sourced with independent coverage. Since you are related to him, you have what we call a conflict of interest, and we request that you not edit the article yourself. If you can identify a reliable source with the info you'd like to have added, you can put a connected edit request on the article's talk page. See Wikipedia:Simple conflict of interest edit request. If you get stuck, please come back here. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 00:53, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
Table
Hi, today I published my draft here. I made a table for its charts, but I'd like it to look more like the one here. Can you guys show me how to do this? I've been having difficulty implementing it without a direct copy-paste. —VersaceSpace 🌃 00:59, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- @VersaceSpace I don't think you can do this using the visual editor - it still doesn't support adding custom CSS to tables. To get the custom shading in the first column you need to add
! scope="row"
before each cell containing the chart name. 192.76.8.85 (talk) 10:41, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
Date formatting in citations
When editing an article, sometimes when writing dates in citations as "2022-07-12" they appear as "12 July 2022" after publishing/inserting, other times it doesn't and just stays as "2022-07-12". Am I doing something wrong? Is it advisable to just write out dates instead? DannyC55 (Talk) 02:49, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- See:
{{use dmy dates}}
and/or{{use mdy dates}}
and Help:Citation Style 1 § Auto-formatting citation template dates. - —Trappist the monk (talk) 02:51, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
edits mysteriously undone
About a month ago I made several additions to the Wikipedia stub about myself (Andrew Carstairs-McCarthy). But I find today (13 July) that these changes have all disappeared; the article has reverted to the 'stub' version. Why? Damerell (talk) 03:37, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Damerell: If you check the page's history, your edits were undone because they were not cited when such information must be verifiable. I would also strongly suggest you refrain from writing about yourself, as it is very difficult to write neutrally on such a subject. Please use the article's talk page to make edit requests. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 04:15, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
Opening AfD
Are there guidelines or policies concerning the opening of an AfD for an article that you've previously opened AfDs for? Is it discouraged? Is there a recommend timeframe between when one should avoid opening a new AfD (i.e. wait a minimum of six months)? A few examples for me personally, might include Level 3 (TV series) which had no consensus (looks like maybe speedy re-nomination was an option but I didn't see the note at the time), MacBreak which had no consensus over a year ago, Trash Taste which had no consensus almost a year ago, or Bald Move which had the consensus to keep but I'm still very confident that the company doesn't pass WP:NCORP. TipsyElephant (talk) 14:23, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- Policy only refers to a "reasonable amount of time", "to give editors time to improve the page". I would say six months is a good minimum, but it may depend on the specific article. 331dot (talk) 14:44, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
Need help
I had requested to undelete an article and request was accepted. I improved it, added content and gave references. I much improved it. Then some weeks ago I submitted it in AFC submition process. But still it isn't reviewed. I think so because it was deleted three times so it isn't being reviewed. But in real I improved it a lot and totally changed it. So someone please check why it isn't being reviewed. The name of article is Draft:Sahito.FAAHS (talk) 15:47, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- Read the big notice at the top of Draft:Sahito. Bazza (talk) 15:52, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- I took a quick look at this and declined the submission due to sourcing issues. Most of the sources are not reliable, and also do not support the prose they are cited for. Details were left at the draft. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:57, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- @FAAHS: I also clicked on all the sources, and the word Sahito appears briefly in only two, with almost no context. Very little that you wrote is substantiated, as pointed out above. You will need better sourcing to demonstrate that this tribe is noteworthy. Please read WP:GNG. There are also distracting formatting issues, but those can wait until the content sourcing is improved. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 18:19, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
Status of a requested page for Firoz Lalji
Dear Wikipedia help desk,
I am working with a company called WikiSpecialists LLC to create a Wikipedia page for Firoz Lalji. This has been in progress since 2021, and I am not getting any information back from them other than it has been submitted to Wikipedia for review and approval. Is there a way to get an update on this page submission? Tquintus (talk) 16:38, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- It's been deleted multiple times as promotional spam created by a banned group. Draft:Firoz Lalji ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:40, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- Courtesy ping: Tquintus —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 21:30, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
I seek to ask a language question about the Satyress page on the Wiki
Is it possible to make a copy of the entire page into Japanese? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satyress Timeus778 (talk) 17:00, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- Hello, Timeus778. Yes, you can do that. Please follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Translate us. Cullen328 (talk) 17:05, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Cullen328 ..I can't do that though, as I am not fluent in Japanese.(yet). But I was requesting if someone else can. Timeus778 (talk) 17:58, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- Try asking at Wikipedia talk:Translation ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 18:11, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- No, don't ask at Wikipedia talk:Translation: it's not a forum about translations; instead, it's a place to discuss the content of Wikipedia:Translation, a page that's about translations into English. -- Hoary (talk) 02:56, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
- Timeus778, a translation from en:Wikipedia to ja:Wikipedia must satisfy Wikipedia:Translate us (as pointed out above) and also Wikipedia:翻訳のガイドライン. Why do you hope for a translation? -- Hoary (talk) 02:56, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
- Try asking at Wikipedia talk:Translation ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 18:11, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Cullen328 ..I can't do that though, as I am not fluent in Japanese.(yet). But I was requesting if someone else can. Timeus778 (talk) 17:58, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
Question about 3RR policy
I proposed a policy change on Chinese Wikipedia recently: the original proposal on 3RR policy is "no limit on reverting unsourced and insufficiently sourced content" I proposed it to be both poorly sourced and violates BLP policy. A user disagree because they thought Wikipedia:Verifiability is also a policy. Somebody else brings the original text in English Wikipedia, which is also "Removing contentious material that is libelous, biased, unsourced, or poorly sourced according to Wikipedia's biographies of living persons (BLP) policy". Could someone explain to me which one is more reasonable to be a policy. QiuLiming1 (talk) 20:32, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- sorry for the bad grammar. QiuLiming1 (talk) 20:33, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- WP:V is a policy, not sure I understand what the conflict is. PRAXIDICAE🌈 20:36, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- Hello, QiuLiming1. You communicate just fine in English. Keep in mind that each language version of Wikipedia is an autonomous volunteer project that sets its own policies and guidelines through consensus. If Chinese editors want to get ideas from policy language here on English languags, that is fine. But in the end, the decision needs to be made by Chinese language Wikipedia editors. Cullen328 (talk) 20:40, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, I just want to get some ideas. QiuLiming1 (talk) 20:43, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- is reverting materiel that is just "not sufficiently sourced" an exception to 3RR policy? QiuLiming1 (talk) 20:42, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- Not unless it is clearly vandalism, or is contentious material about a WP:BLP. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:43, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- others disagree because they think WP:V says user is responsible for cite so it should be an exception. QiuLiming1 (talk) 20:47, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- Some user even said I am Wikipedia:Gaming the system by ignoring some policy. QiuLiming1 (talk) 20:49, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- WP:3RRNO outlines exactly what is exempt from 3RR. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:51, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- So is there some reason to not revert poorly sourced material (non-BLP) more than 3 times? QiuLiming1 (talk) 20:53, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- To avoid edit warring. If you find yourself in that situation there are plenty of avenues of dispute resolution available. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:56, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, the reason is that it is considered edit warring. WP:EW. In such cases, you should discuss on the talk page and if needed follow the guidance at WP:DR RudolfRed (talk) 20:57, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- OK. Thanks. QiuLiming1 (talk) 21:01, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- Just wants to clarify, did I game the system by propose this and ignore "user is responsible for citing". QiuLiming1 (talk) 21:04, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- So is there some reason to not revert poorly sourced material (non-BLP) more than 3 times? QiuLiming1 (talk) 20:53, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- WP:3RRNO outlines exactly what is exempt from 3RR. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:51, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- Some user even said I am Wikipedia:Gaming the system by ignoring some policy. QiuLiming1 (talk) 20:49, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- others disagree because they think WP:V says user is responsible for cite so it should be an exception. QiuLiming1 (talk) 20:47, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- Not unless it is clearly vandalism, or is contentious material about a WP:BLP. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:43, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- Hello, QiuLiming1. You communicate just fine in English. Keep in mind that each language version of Wikipedia is an autonomous volunteer project that sets its own policies and guidelines through consensus. If Chinese editors want to get ideas from policy language here on English languags, that is fine. But in the end, the decision needs to be made by Chinese language Wikipedia editors. Cullen328 (talk) 20:40, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- WP:V is a policy, not sure I understand what the conflict is. PRAXIDICAE🌈 20:36, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
add info to a page
to add to this page there was a mass murder in La Loche Saskatchewan a few yrs ago. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_Canada https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatoon/documents-account-la-loche-what-happened-1.5533215 192.64.61.155 (talk) 22:07, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- If you have a suggestion for "List of massacres in Canada", please make the suggestion at the foot of "Talk:List of massacres in Canada". -- Hoary (talk) 02:43, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
- It's not really a list of massacres. It's a list of Wikipedia articles about massacres. If the La Roche massacre has a Wikipedia article it should be added. If the massacre has no article and the event meets our notability requirements, then you may create one: see WP:YFA, and then add it to this list. -Arch dude (talk) 20:14, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
redirect tool not working having trouble creating redirects
The tool located here Wikipedia:How to make a redirect - Wikipedia is not properly responding to make a redirect, instead it just says that page does not exist and if you want to create a new page. I gave in and said yes make new page then followed the directions here Wikipedia:Redirect - Wikipedia which says to only put the following on the page #REDIRECT [[target page name here]] but fill in the bracket area with the name you want redirected, however then it just creates a regular page under review
None of this seems to be working, any help would be much appreciated. Smootheater (talk) 22:37, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- It's because you are not autoconfirmed. PRAXIDICAE🌈 22:40, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- Courtesy ping: Smootheater —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 00:34, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
July 14
revert an article to previous version
hello, i want to revert an article to its previous version, how do i do that? InfiniteSword (talk) 05:02, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
- I am not very experienced neither, but I usually just copy and paste the source or use WP:Twinkle. QiuLiming1 (talk) 05:27, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
- @InfiniteSword:To revert to a previous version, go to the article's history and click on the version your wish to revert to. This will display it. you can then click the "restore this version" in the "this is an old version" box at teh top of the displayes article. Please make sure you really want to do this: all the later edits will no longer be there. Also make sure to leave a meaningful edit summary to explain why you did this. -Arch dude (talk) 05:36, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
- @InfiniteSword:But if you just want to undo the most recent edit, go to the article's history and click on the "undo" at the end of the most recent history entry. Again, please explain using a meaningful edit summary. -Arch dude (talk) 05:40, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
Would it be a good general idea to convert "audio" templates to "listen" templates?
Here's an example using the template {{audio}}:
Here's the same thing using {{listen}} instead:
The first example has a link which says "play", but it's irritating because it doesn't. For reasons explained at Help:Media (MIDI), it will download the midi file to your machine instead, which will then play when located and opened if the machine is set up to play midi, which Windows computers typically aren't. Android seems able to play midi files by default, but it's still annoying to leave the browser to do so. If you click on "info", that leads to a page with the file embedded a third way, using [[File:]], which works like {{listen}} without the decorations. I guess an argument could be made about server load, but other than that it seems to me really bad to present these frustrating non-functional links to the reader. I think the {{audio}} template is just out of date (by ten or twenty years). Card Zero (talk) 10:49, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Card Zero:I suggest you start a discussion on the talk page of {{audio}}, and add a pointer to your discussion at the talk page of {{listen}}. The folks who are watching those pages, if any, will be your best source of informed opinions. After a week or so, If nobody comments, change a few of the pages that use {{audio}} and wait another week or so to see if anyone objects. -Arch dude (talk) 20:08, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
Use of Wikipedia text content
Hi We have an educational website. In a free English vocabulary training course, we have used the text sections of Wikipedia. Of course, Wikipedia's name is mentioned in the course description in the sources section. This course is free, but to use this course and its information, you must become a member of our site. (Membership is free). Is this allowed? And there is no problem with copyright? Thank you in advance. MHE78 (talk) 12:24, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
- You can reuse Wikipedia text as long as you provide attribution. Images are more complicated. It doesn't matter if you charge for the course or not, Wikipedia's license allows reuse for any purpose(including commercial). 331dot (talk) 12:31, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
- @MHE78: See Wikipedia:Reusing Wikipedia content. You must give a url or list of authors for the specific pages you use. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:40, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
NUMBER OF USERS EDITING THE PAGE IN A SPECIFIC PERIOD OF TIME
Hello
In a specific page, I would like to know how many users edit it, in a period of time. How is the best form to extract this data? 190.144.212.54 (talk) 13:19, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
- You should be able to use Quarry to accomplish this. WelpThatWorked (talk) 13:34, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
- xtools has this functionality, e.g. https://xtools.wmflabs.org/articleinfo/en.wikipedia.org/Main_Page has the info for the main page. 163.1.15.238 (talk) 16:07, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
Economics
Duties of consumer rights — Preceding unsigned comment added by 45.252.79.10 (talk) 17:39, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
External Link
What are Wikipedia rules when I want to add a link to a book that resides on archieve.org? The book is not a reference but to list the literary work of a dead person. SULNOUR (talk) 17:58, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
- You can use Template:Cite book to add citations referencing books. Where you found the book shouldn't matter, as that's just where one copy of the book is from. You can see Wikipedia:Citing sources for more detailed information. WelpThatWorked (talk) 19:10, 14 July 2022 (UTC)