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The Bete Amhara dispute
I am not removing the translation the translation is in the Wikipedia page why don’t you get that. I should be saying the same thing with you, both your logic and understanding is weak King Solomon is an Abrahamic figure, so for you to say “of the bible” seems inconsiderate. Second, like I said before you might as well change the Amhara people’s wiki page to “Free people” people. Honestly, just leave it as Bete Amhara. English Wikipedia or not, leave it as Bete Amhara, the translation is in the Bete Amhara page. Rogeman123 (talk) 12:23, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
The Solomonic dynasty were christian rulers of a Christian kingdom, can you acknowledge this fact? If so, in the context of the Solomonic dynasty, there's nothing wrong referring to Solomon as a biblicial figure, it is the correct context to put them in. Source back it up as House of Amhara. It is the literal translation, english wikipedia. You for some reason are removing the Bold translation of Bete Amhara, as if you don't want people to know it is translated as House of Amhara. Wikipedia is to inform, not to conceal information. I will keep reverting it back because your reasoning is poor and can't or won't contextualize Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 19:06, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
Yes the Solomonic dynasty were Christians rulers, and yes Solomon is a biblical figure. But you need to understand that Solomon is an Islamic and Jewish figure too. “King Solomon of the bible” why does anyone ever mention that phrase rather then “King Solomon”. No one says “King Solomon of the bible” because he isn’t just a biblical figure, so why don’t you get that? Show some respect to the other Abrahamic faiths. Bete Amhara means “House of Amhara” so why are you changing that? I am correcting your mistake not concealing. I told you this before if people would like to know the translation they can go to the Bete Amhara page. I have added the translation beside it. Rogeman123 (talk) 14:00, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
I responded to you on the Amhara people talk page, let's stick to one avenue where others can join.
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- Hello @Fuhghettaboutit: thank you for reviewing the page! Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 17:37, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
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Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 18:44, 20 May 2021 (UTC)- Hello @Fuhghettaboutit: great that the page is accepted, but i have a better title in mind. title: List of musicians using Amharic vocals. That way you remove in their music which is unnecessary, since musicians is already in the title. Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 20:28, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
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Amhara people
Thanks for providing a source on Yekuno Amlak's claim on Solomonic descent. But the way you provided this source, we only know that someone said in 1986 in the journal Northeastafrican Studies on p. 11 that he indeed made that claim. That isn't quite enough for an inline citation. Please go to the trouble to find out who (author) said this in which article, and give us proper citation instead of a link to a dutch Google Books page. If you don't do that, you risk that this source (and the claim) will be removed again. This is your responsibility. LandLing 18:54, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
@LandLing First of all i reject you dictating what my responbility is. I added mulitple sources, there are a dozen of them. If you removed a multi-sourced statement, i will open a content dispute against you. Have a good day. Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 19:16, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
- I'm not dictating anything to you, I'm making you aware of the rules of Wikipedia. I will proceed according to these rules. LandLing 21:33, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
@LandLing if you suspect something nefarious open a section in a talk page, if not search the sources for yourself. Otherwise we could involve the Wikpedia community in a dispute resolution regarding the statement, remove it again, i will open a content dispute to resolve the matter. Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 22:29, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
- Now I've done your homework for you. You really need to learn how to cite sources in Wikipedia in order to avoid this kind of situation in the future. In case you didn't notice - there never was a dispute between us on content, just on form. LandLing 22:50, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
WP:BRD
I suggested on the Teahouse to Honestly, just try it. It's definitely an ambiguous case. If someone reverts it, then follow WP:BRD. If you like, you can point them back here and I'll take the blame :)
(section bolded). By the time you added the image back today [1], it had already been reverted twice [2] [3]. Per WP:BRD: Discuss the contribution, and the reasons for the contribution, on the article's talk page with the person who reverted your contribution. Don't restore your changes or engage in back-and-forth reverting.
(emphasis mine). Looking back I probably should not have suggested you do that to begin with. I feel bad for leading you astray a bit. While in general "just try it" is a Wikipedia guideline (WP:BOLD), I shouldn't have said to in this particular case, that was reckless of me and I should have looked further at the context behind it. Sorry. Leijurv (talk) 02:47, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Leijurv No need to apologize. I'm not starting a revert competition or a edit war xd. It was good it's get the conversation moving on a vague guideline, thanks for showing me the discussion. Instead of reverting i just went to User talk:Kolya Butternut talk page and pointing out that there was a ongoing discussion, that there's no consensus on collages, and he(and others) expands photomontages to collages in general, when that's no clear term in WP:NOETHNICGALLERIES. I find the Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Images#MOS guidelines for a collage as the lead image / infobox image more appropriate to discuss it because this clearly moved beyond a single article. Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 03:21, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
Amhara people source from WP:RX
Hi Dawit! Back in April, I sent you an email with a seven-page PDF from Source Encyclopaedia Aethiopica: Volume 1 about the Amhara people, after your request at the Resource Exchange. Did you happen to download that to your own computer and if so, would you mind emailing it back to me? I've unfortunately deleted it on my end and another editor is interested in it as well. Thanks, DanCherek (talk) 19:13, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
- Hello Dan! Yes it's part of my collection now :) I have sent you the pages via mail! Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 19:38, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
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Concern regarding Draft:List of Amhara organizations
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- @Dawit S Gondaria: In order to keep the draft there, you only need to edit it once in every six months. Platonk (talk) 16:05, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
- @Platonk: thnx for the reminder. Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 00:14, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
Note on pings
You need {{U|力}} to ping me. [[U|力]] just creates a link to the article on the letter U. User:力 (powera, π, ν) 20:30, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
- 力 Oops my bad, thanks for the note. Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 20:32, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
Redirects rather than AfDs
Dawit S Gondaria: As an example of what I have suggested before, my last two edits show how to change a individual event article to a redirect into the timeline article. This edit sets an anchor (landing spot) in the timeline page directly above the material covering the event. And this edit blanks the individual event article and makes a redirect pointing to the new anchor in the timeline article. It is important that the two match up text-wise; I opted to use the old article title as the anchor name.
In this case, there was no material from the old article needing to be moved/copied/merged into the target article. If there was, I would have made a separate edit in the timeline article. And if I had copied content, I would note it in the edit summary.
The reason I did not use this method for Shimelba massacres and instead AfD'd it was because after evaluating it, there were no reliable sources saying it happened. I wound up deleting the information from both the timeline article and the casualty article, effectively removing anything to which I could have pointed a redirect. Hence, the AfD method.
I know you'll probably still find other articles to AfD, but I wanted to show you the method for using redirects when it is the more appropriate method. Platonk (talk) 22:48, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
- @Platonk. Thank you very much for the suggestion and the examples! i will look into it Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 21:20, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
Inch by inch
We're getting it cleaned up bit by bit. Good job on recognizing the problems in Amhara Region. I'm slowly working my way through the massacre articles a few at a time and, where appropriate, I'm turning them into redirects to the timeline article. Eventually we'll be able to clean up the timeline and casualty articles, and any remaining references to atlas and tghat. I wonder if we need to call for a close on that RfC re Tghat; the discussion seems to have run its course and no one has commented in 9 days. I'm finding WP more calm since the sock was removed; I couldn't keep up with his speed of creations. Platonk (talk) 05:38, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Platonk thanks, i'm actually so done reading about massacres, but for a times a day/week i will be going to Rastakwere contributions and see where else he vandalized. Yesah a decision on Tghat would be nice. Yes it's too much, and goodriddance. I salute your tenacity and endurance. Thank you! Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 08:08, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
- This tool is helpful to identify which articles Rasta created and haven't yet been deleted. It doesn't, however, show redirects Rasta created, nor does it tell you which ones have been changed from articles to redirects. My best source of finding more of these is to scroll through the timeline articles looking for the "main article" section hatnotes. When I convert a spam-article to a redirect, I re-purpose the 'main article' hatnote (visible) into an anchor (invisible), therefore any main-article hatnote still visible is ripe for my next target. Platonk (talk) 08:25, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
- Platonk Timesaving measure nice!! I lost you after that anchor, hatnote :P but yeah go get it Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 15:00, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
Invitation to WikiProject Ethiopia
If you haven't already done so, you might want to add Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ethiopia to your watchlist. Platonk (talk) 21:20, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
- Added to my watch, thanks! Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 21:43, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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Thank you for your fight against vandalism on Wikipedia. Keep up the good work. ― Kaleeb18Talk 03:32, 10 December 2021 (UTC) |
- Kaleeb18 Thanks! Question, how do you give barnstars? Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 04:05, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Kaleeb18: Never mind found it, thanks again! Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 04:06, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
Tips on brackets and braces
Just some tips to improve your talk-page edits.
- If you're linking to a Wikipedia article title, use 2 square brackets on each end. Example: [[Coca-Cola]]
- If you're linking to a URL (in or out of Wikipedia), use 1 square bracket on each end. Example: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coca-Cola] or [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Coca-Cola&diff=1059381163&oldid=1058271469] or [https://www.coca-cola.com/]
- If you're quoting something and using Template:Tq, use 2 curly braces on each end. Example: {{Tq|The sky is blue.}}
Platonk (talk) 08:53, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
- Platonk thanks for the tips, keep that in mind. Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 09:27, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
December 2021
Hello, I'm Ue3lman. Wikipedia is written by people who have a wide diversity of opinions, but we try hard to make sure articles have a neutral point of view. Your recent edit to Lalibela seemed less than neutral and has been removed. If you think this was a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. User:67.185.158.250 is right. Just because the Ethiopian government calls them terrorists does that mean that they are. Adding biased sourcing (like Borkena) to push your pov is not allowed. Reuters is good enough. Ue3lman (talk) 06:00, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
- Hello @Ue3lman: you are mistaken so is the IP, clarify why you think Borkena source is biased according to you, does that include the Israeli source which says Tigrayan forces invaded Amhara region? It's not driven my pov as you and the ip claim, but stating the obvious. Reuters or American media don't get to decide who is or who is not a terrorist. Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 06:09, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
- I don't think I need to clarify. It's pretty obvious just by looking at any article they make about the war. You say "stating the obvious". How is it? Because the Ethiopian government said so? If you're able to say tghat is a biased source, I don't see how you can't say Borkena is too. You're going to have to be more clearer on what Israeli source you're talking about because I don't see it. Ue3lman (talk) 07:01, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Ue3lman: you should clarify instead of cherry picking terms. Fxempire is a Israeli news source and they basically repeating what Reuters reported in more clear terms, equating Borkena with Tghat is a bridge too far, but you can take that source out, i can also find other non Ethiopian sources that calls the TPLF for what it is, a terrorist group. Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 07:26, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
Your recent editing history at Lalibela shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See the bold, revert, discuss cycle for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.
Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you do not violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.
Habesha peoples
Hey! I hope you're well. I just wanted to touch base on a couple of edits over on Habesha peoples. The lead paragraph has been extremely contentious, so we've ironed it out quite a lot on the Talk page. Basically, there's no one meaning of "Habesha" that we can consider basic. There's a historical development. We've tried to express the range of usage. I don't imagine that the paragraph is the best possible version, but because this has been so contentious it would probably be best to hash out an improved version on the Talk page.
With regard to the other edit, I manually reverted because the sentence cited an actual source. The info we provide shouldn't be different from the source that we cite. If you want to change it, you should probably replace it with another reliable source. However, given that you disagree with what the cited source says, the new version would probably need to reflect the existence of multiple points of view. Unless, that is, there are reliable sources that should lead us to believe that the current version reflects a fringe usage.
Take care! Pathawi (talk) 03:57, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
- @Pathawi: Hello i responded to you on the talk page, and the Gerard Prunier source is clear, i have read it, and it's not correctly used as it is, so i suggest you revert your manuel revert, or we have a content dispute to settle. Take care! Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 04:12, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
Requests for protection
I'm not going to decline them, but it's unlikely anyone is going to protect 9 articles for sporadic sock activity. If another sock appears, simply report it to WP:AIV. OhNoitsJamie Talk 15:45, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
- @Ohnoitsjamie: Okay thnx, i'll just report to the ANI, it's the same sock doing it every few weeks. Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 16:53, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
Your submission at Articles for creation: Abate Mekuria has been accepted
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Rusalkii (talk) 17:26, 22 January 2022 (UTC)Invitation to WikiProject Ethiopia
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Yeshaq I
I simply don't care, I simply dislike that Magherbin guy. He follows me around to every page reverting my edits. I'll leave the page how it is but if I'm reverting his edits don't step in. 2601:280:CB02:1AA2:A414:EDC4:17BD:F4D4 (talk) 14:38, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
- Fadge's book also really does only say he was killed by Muslims so thank you. 2601:280:CB02:1AA2:A414:EDC4:17BD:F4D4 (talk) 14:41, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
- Hello @2601:280:CB02:1AA2:A414:EDC4:17BD:F4D4 that's not how it works here, if you believe there's a serious issue against a user, you could try WP:ANI or other relevant noticeboards, but first you may want to try to resolve your issue(s) with the editor on respective talkpage(s) and dispute resolution WP:DR if consensus can't be reached (Third opinion for example). However, in Yeshaq I case, you'll get in an unnecessary dispute which could lead to you being blocked, more on this on the appropriate avenue Talk:Yeshaq I. Furthermore i'll verify sources in articles regardless of your disputes with other users. You also might want to consider in creating an Wikipedia account. Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 16:19, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
Images
Do you get paid to nominate random pictures for deletion? Because that was uploaded 11 years ago and nobody cares about these "copyright laws," I'm just trying to add as much information onto here as possible and learn along the way. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BeteAmora (talk • contribs) 03:57, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
@BeteAmora: I'm going to ignore your baseless insinuation only this time . There are alot of images missing source information, it's because it's used in a article, that it becomes more visible and scrutiny arise regarding copyright status only now, as it did in [[4]], the appropriate avenue to discuss this is on the nomination page discussing deletion at Wiki Commons, not on my talkpage. Secondly next time you message me on my talkpage, start a new topic at the bottom like everyone else WP:TALKHEADING, next time i regard this as deliberate disruption. Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 08:19, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
Reversing Content
If you read my edit summary, "RV" indicates reversion hence I wasnt the one to add the content originally, the IP is heavily disruptive across various articles. Use the warning template properly next time. Magherbin (talk) 06:22, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Magherbin: I read it, and when you are the one reversing content, you still have to make sure it's correct [5]. Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 06:26, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
Same as in reversing content in Tewodros I [6], make sure what you revert is accurate with the sources. Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 06:31, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- The onus is on the editor to start a discussion and change the status quo not me, secondly you falsely claimed I introduced incorrect content into the article hence you need to acknowledge your mistake. On tewdros, we dont copy paste word for word what the reference states, we use our own words. Is there a difference between the Adal sultanate, and the Walasma princes who ruled the state? Magherbin (talk) 06:41, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Magherbin: I did not make a mistake, the avenue is now in Talk:Tewodros I, or do you want to continue on my talkpage? It's a direct quote from the source, Tewodros I died in 1414 during transition of Ifat to Adal. The source say Walashma princes which covers both of the dynasty of Ifat and Adal. Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 06:47, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
Werjih people
It seems you've developed some sort of obsession with my edits. You continually reverted my edits on the Amharas page despite me properly linking to the section on the Caste systems in africa page that mentioned Amharas, and you nominated a picture for deletion on the page for absolutely no reason. Before insulting me for a "juvenile edit description," or not reading the source, YOU need to properly read the source. The source states that the Werjih were one group that were affected by the Semetization of the region by Arabian migrants crossing the Bab al-mandab into the harar plateau. Afterwars, they would cross over into eastern Shewa. The Tigrayans and Amhras both were affected by another migration, not the one from the Harar plateau. Likewise, the Werjih are not said to have affected eastern Shewa themselves, nor are Amharas or Amhara region mentioned. Do you even know the motivation behind his inclusion of Amharas on the Werjih page despite Amharas not being mentioned in relation to them, or their Harari nationalist "Am"-"Harla" conspiracy? He's been doing this since early 2020 you so called Gondere. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BeteAmora (talk • contribs) 11:05, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- @BeteAmora: please sign after you post a comment. You seem to have a barrage of issues besides Werjih people (for which Talk:Werjih people is the avenue for discussion, not my talk page). I don't know who you mean by he? If it involves another editor, or content dispute, bring this forward at the talkpage.
- If you mean this [7] Amharas are at beginning of Caste systems in Africa article, not somewhere midway or below in the article, so yes pointless edit.
- As i told you earlier under subsection: Images, the file was missing essential source information, and the right avenue is on the page where it's up for deletion at Wiki Commons, not my talkpage. Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 11:35, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
Tewodros
Notice of Fringe Theories Noticeboard discussion
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Fringe theories/Noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Magherbin (talk) 05:16, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
My talk page
Stop saying I'm being disruptive, that warning doesn't scare me and won't do anything. I didn't blank anything, I moved the picture down to a better location, so stop reverting my edits and edit warring too. If you continue to do so and leave stuff on my talk page I'll start sending those "warnings" back and well see if that means anything. ZKDemelash (talk) 14:18, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
- @ZKDemelash: If you continue to be disruptive instead of reaching consensus, you will be reported as such, those warnings are part of a process. Now stop messaging my talkpage for your behaviour, for content disputes use the article's talkpage. Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 05:24, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
- Hehe ZKDemelash (talk) 07:24, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
- @ZKDemelash: If you continue to be disruptive instead of reaching consensus, you will be reported as such, those warnings are part of a process. Now stop messaging my talkpage for your behaviour, for content disputes use the article's talkpage. Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 05:24, 2 July 2022 (UTC)