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Women in Red in July 2022
Women in Red July 2022, Vol 8, Issue 7, Nos 214, 217, 234, 235
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--Lajmmoore (talk) 15:49, 27 June 2022 (UTC) via MassMessaging
Re: Birth dates
Hi, can politics.co.uk be cited for their year of birth?[1][2]--Mike Rohsopht (talk) 05:54, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Mike Rohsopht: I'm not familiar with politics.co.uk, and there were previous discussions at Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_334#Politics.co.uk and Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_337#Politics.co.uk last year on that exact question, which were heated but inconclusive. It looks to me as if it would probably be fine for year of birth, which is much less sensitive than the exact date of birth. I certainly wouldn't revert if you added exact years sourced to it, much tidier than the this-or-that years we can deduce from stated ages. PamD 07:22, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
- Also, can this be cited?--Mike Rohsopht (talk) 14:06, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Mike Rohsopht: Sorry not to get back to you. I don't know what that parliamentary site is, but it doesn't look like "published" info just because you've managed to find it. It doesn't look to me as if it would be a usable source for BLP data like DoB. Who needs to know, anyway? Year of birth indicates an age range, whether they're near pension age or fresh out of uni, and distinguishes them from someone else of same name born in 1789; exact day and month of birth is only useful for astrologers and ... not sure who else. PamD 07:25, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
- Also, can this be cited?--Mike Rohsopht (talk) 14:06, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
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Jeanne Socrates
Hi Pam,
Do you still see a need for that warning template on the top of the article? It seems fairly balanced and well sourced now, thanks in large to your efforts.
Thanks, Crum375 (talk) 22:22, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
Sorry about the spelling issue, I actually switched it myself a couple of times back and forth while working on that paragraph, and somehow ended up leaving it in the US style (Victoria is actually just a few miles across the bay from Seattle, where the reverse spelling would be used :) ). Anyway, thanks for catching and correcting it. Crum375 (talk) 22:36, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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The Brilliant Idea Barnstar |
I saw your article for the Red Dress sadly too late to get it to DYK but its a great project.... and then the bike laser lady. Another intriguing article but maybe needs a pic for DYK but another fine contribution. (I have asked for some pics of the lights to be released on Flickr but I usually get a low success rate.) However I can always just give you a barnstar to recognise the great ideas you are highlighting. Thanks Pam Victuallers (talk) 09:57, 13 July 2022 (UTC) |
- Thanks, @Victuallers:: as you can see from my user page, the articles I create tend to be inspired by all sorts of things (and I'm so glad that I've always kept that record). Someone in my weekly "Academic Archers" Zoom chat was enthusing about the Red Dress and it seemed wiki-worthy; someone else created the article on Emily Brooke a while ago and I stub-sorted it, created the talk page (thus adding it to my watchlist by default), then created a redirect from Beryl (company) so noticed when someone recently upgraded that redirect to an article, then found they both needed a bit of improvement ... and so it goes on. An endless jigsaw, and rather more constructive than the cardboard/wooden variety. PamD 11:24, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
Vikings
Hi Pam,
The problem being fixed here is that the article is about a seafaring people, and the lead sentence as currently written makes it about the name. This is addressed in WP:UMD, with the closest example of misuse being either "is the name of" or "is a term for". This is also covered in WP:ISAWORDFOR.
If left as-is, then MOS:WAW would apply, and it should be styled:
Vikings is the modern name given to seafaring people...
But I think the more correct fix is to have the lead sentence address the primary topic (the seafaring people) and leave the etymology of the term to its own section -- or, a brief mention in the lead might say something as an aside, such as "(Vikings is a modern term, not used contemporaneously.)"
Regards, NapoliRoma (talk) 17:50, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
- @NapoliRoma: I'm not an expert on the subject area - I was alerted to the change when someone commented that the lead sentence had changed while they were trying to solve yesterday's "Redactle" puzzle (Hmm, it might be wiser if the puzzle linked to a single frozen version of the article for its 24 hours, as otherwise we are shooting at a moving target). But looking at the article history and the acrimonious previous discussions on the talk page I get the impression that the lead sentence to which I reverted had consensus and that previous discussions had been so lengthy that the lead shouldn't be changed without talking it through on the talk page. So you were Bold, I Reverted, and there's scope for another round of Discussion if you have the stomach for it. I see what you're saying, but it doesn't feel like that sort of an issue. Yes, in general, the "X is the name of " leads need to be trimmed, but here we seem to be dealing with something more nuanced. Over to you. PamD 18:06, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
Song titles
Pam, can you give me a Wikipedia reference for your statement in your edit to Are You Havin' Any Fun? that song titles are in quotes not italics. Now that you have brought it to my attention is see that is the standard but I cannot find a reference to it in WP:music. Thanks BuffaloBob (talk) 16:49, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
- Found it: Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Music#Popular music Thanks againBuffaloBob (talk) 16:56, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
- @BuffaloBob Ah, I've found it at WP:SONG - am on phone so didn't find it for original edit summary, hoped you wouldn't ask! But I see the quotes shouldn't be bold, will go back and fix. Always something new to learn about editing. Poems and short stories get the same styling. PamD 17:00, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
- @BuffaloBob See MOS:TITLE for the full list of things which have titles and are italicised, in quotes, or not! PamD 17:11, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
Sarah Ejiama
Thanks for the review and update. Noted! I added the misconduct area to the article - Sarah Ejiama because the investigation was on the whole Molecular Oncology team lab in 2019 which Richard Marais led and I thought it will look otherwise if its not mentioned. Appreciate the correction :) Oceanview1590 (talk) 15:38, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Oceanview1590: As the conclusion seemed to be that any misconduct was only by one person, who was not Ejiama, it seems completely irrelevant to an article on her. PamD 15:40, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Oceanview1590: But as you are online, please answer the question I have asked on your user talk page. Thanks. PamD 15:41, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
- I already answered your question on talk page :) maybe this message was crossed. Thanks Oceanview1590 (talk) 15:49, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Oceanview1590: But as you are online, please answer the question I have asked on your user talk page. Thanks. PamD 15:41, 18 July 2022 (UTC)