Legislation
Hello. I have noticed that you have been replacing the twenty year lists of Acts of Parliament with yearly lists. The pre-1880 lists are already in the process of being corrected and improved. I think those lists should be left intact until that process is completed. If the footnotes in those lists were deleted or orphaned, it would negate months of effort to correct the errors in those lists, to ensure that articles and redirects are located at appropriate page names, and to identify the status and origins of short titles and popular titles. (Template:Legislationuk does not seem to have provision for footnotes, popular titles, or Acts that have multiple names, as far as I can see). Best regards. James500 (talk) 23:18, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
- Hi James - the template has provision for footnotes (and other features) via optional parameters, and I will be implementing additional options such as popular titles and Acts with multiple names in time with more, although the most logical implementation won't be clear until I've had a look at specific Acts and worked out what would make most sense. As such, I've been doing this as I go along in reverse chronological order - you can see that I have (for example) included provision for Provisional Order confirmations in local Acts where the long title to the Act itself is unhelpful. This will become more relevant in Acts confirming multiple unrelated Orders. I have also been converting it into Lua and working on increasing the efficiency so as to not run up against some of WP's limitations. If you want to see module code behind the template you can do so here, though it's still a work in progress (albeit nearing completion). Citations are automatically generated by date and chapter number using a database accessed by the Lua module, which will become more relevant pre-1963.
- In any event, I anticipate that it will be quite a while before I would be intending to work on 19th century legislation, but please be assured that I have not been whole-sale deleting the information that is there, and I have been working from primary sources throughout. For example, I have been manually typing out long titles and cross-checking against OCRs of scans so as to catch any errors in both. --Theknightwho (talk) 23:23, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for the thanks, even though it seems from the above that my assumption was incorrect. What I was really lookiy for was the infobox. I use it so rarely that I misremembered it as a template. So it would be good if you could add a least some skeleton doc for other editors if I was wrong. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 09:47, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, I realised just after that it wasn't quite correct. I've been meaning to do some documentation for a while, but real life has got in the way! I've actually decided that the best approach is to upload the relevant data onto Wikidata and to then port that over onto Wikipedia - it's logistically neater, more flexible, and ensures consistency where information is duplicated (e.g. lists of legislation by topic; and I have also been contemplating a UK legislation citation template which would draw down the relevant info and format it correctly based on a simple input). Implementing that will require a total rewrite of much of the template, and so I'm reluctant to do much in detail until then. When I get the chance, I'll put something up, though, as it'd be good to have skeleton documentation in the meantime. Theknightwho (talk) 15:26, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
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Reginald Poole
You might want to add that book reference to New Year's Day? --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 13:21, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
- Good shout - have done. Theknightwho (talk) 13:36, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
- Btw, I think you have the wrong publisher? It should be British Academy. Also, I believe we should recognise the Hathi Trust? --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 13:37, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
- Poole, Reginald L. (1921). The Beginning of the Year in the Middle Ages. Procedings of the British Academy. Vol. X. London: British Academy. Archived from the original on 23 November 2021. Retrieved 24 November 2021 – via Hathi Trust.
- So I was a little confused, as the cover to that edition cites OUP, though I think it wasn't published in volume X until later. I don't think the page numbers line up if we use that citation, though I'm about to rush off somewhere so will have a look later. Theknightwho (talk) 13:39, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
- Odd, surely we are looking at the same book on the Hathi Trust site? --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 17:00, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
- I assume so - if you look at what Hathi calls page 3, the bottom half of the page mentions OUP. The page numbers for the Proceedings seem to be pp. 113-137, going by this source Theknightwho (talk) 18:55, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
- Ah, I see. published for by the British Academy by the OUP. My mistake. Somehow I read it first time as printed'. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 20:43, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
- No problem. I've also added a second new source by Pollard, which adds some further clarifications. The more I read into it, the more confusing it gets! Theknightwho (talk) 21:44, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
- Ah, I see. published for by the British Academy by the OUP. My mistake. Somehow I read it first time as printed'. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 20:43, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
- I assume so - if you look at what Hathi calls page 3, the bottom half of the page mentions OUP. The page numbers for the Proceedings seem to be pp. 113-137, going by this source Theknightwho (talk) 18:55, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
- Odd, surely we are looking at the same book on the Hathi Trust site? --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 17:00, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
Pepys's diary
Did you have a particular reason to replace the Wikisource version in favour of PepysDiary.com? --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 23:10, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
- It shows the point being demonstrated (that Pepys celebrated New Year on 1 January, despite not actually writing a different year until 25 March), whereas Wikisource appears to only show the modified year, which I assume is an editorial decision. Theknightwho (talk) 23:12, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
- D'oh!!! © Homer Simpson
- I KNEW THAT! I KNEW THAT! ©1998-2001 Goodness Gracious Me'. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 23:16, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
- No worries - I think we are both reliving some of the frustration that led to the passing of the Act... Theknightwho (talk) 23:19, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
Typeface and font introduction dates
Hi, thanks for your additions here. However, I have found that it's often best to be clear that precision is not possible, especially in the metal type period. Often a lack of surviving archives makes it hard to date when exactly typefaces appeared, you often only know which specimens include types but they were not released annually, or there are dates in reference works with no source or explanation which are hard to trust. I explain this in the Semplicità and Albertus articles for example. With very very few exceptions (like Clarendon, which was registered) I would not give dates of introduction for any pre-1950 typeface, certainly not unless you've personally verified it in a very, very reliable reference book.
You seem to be categorising a lot of redirects taking them from the names of typefaces on the Stephenson Blake article. I don't think that article is very good, it was created by an editor who threw in a lot of information I don't believe is reliable. (It's one of the things I just haven't got around to checking and cleaning up.) In particular now I look at it, I suspect that "Doric 12" is a confusion of Caslon's first sans-serif, which first appears in 1816 but is probably earlier (and isn't 12pt size), with Caslon's later sans-serifs named Doric, introduced about 70 years later. I would not use it as a source for creating redirects and categories, they could confuse people. Blythwood (talk) 21:22, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
- Hiya - that's fair enough! I have categorised the redirects under the Stephenson Blake category in any event (or whichever was appropriate for the others), so they are easy to track down and sort out if necessary. Two pre-1950 typefaces that I know for certain have the correct dates are Doves type (1900) and Record type (1774), as I'm familiar with the histories of both. I get the impression that a lot of this also comes down to the ambiguity of the term "introduced", which seems to be a generic WP term for "came about". It seems to be variously used to mean "first cut" and "first used in a published work" in this context, which isn't helpful. Theknightwho (talk) 21:30, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
Co-operative and Community Benefit Societies and Credit Unions Act 1965
Hi. Based on your edit summary for your page move of Co-operative and Community Benefit Societies and Credit Unions Act 1965, the text of Co-operative and Community Benefit Societies and Credit Unions Act 2010 seems to be outdated. Can you correct it to say what the current status is, if this was repealed? Thanks, wbm1058 (talk) 15:42, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, no problem. I'll do that later on today. Theknightwho (talk) 15:44, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
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- This is fine to delete, though I’m not aware that it’s copyright infringement. The RuneScape wiki states at the bottom that everything is shared under the CC-BY-NC-SA 3.0 licence. Theknightwho (talk) 10:54, 30 January 2022 (UTC)
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- Many thanks! Theknightwho (talk) 01:10, 7 February 2022 (UTC)