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Sophie Freud
Sophie Freud, the last surviving granddaughter of Sigmund Freud, has died. Currently her article is a redirect, but I think her NY Times obit demonstrates her notability. Thriley (talk) 04:23, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- Great work! FloridaArmy (talk) 23:23, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
Keri Blakinger, journalist
Journalist Keri Blakinger just released a memoir. She is the first formerly incarcerated reporter at The Marshall Project. There’s been a lot of coverage of her over the last few years. I think she may meet GNG. Any thoughts? Thriley (talk) 04:14, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
- Looks like a good start User:Thriley. A little fleshing out and I think it’s a welcome addition. FloridaArmy (talk) 23:22, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
50 years of Title IX legislation
June 23rd 2022 will be the 50 year anniversary of Title IX which is the legal case that prevents discrimination based on sex for institutions in the United States receiving federal funds. Has there been any discussions or thoughts within Women in Red to highlight this event? And/or is there a better place to see where this type of activity might occur within Wikipedia? DaffodilOcean (talk) 19:19, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
- At 50 minutes past midnight @wikiwomeninred will tweet that fact with a picture of Patsy Mink is whose memory the law is now named.... but her picture isnt in the article. Victuallers (talk) 19:28, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
- Nice. I have nominated Chris Ernst as a potential DYK for that date. She led a protest at Yale in 1976 in which the participants wrote 'TITLE IX' across their (naked) chests as part of a protest on the discrepancy in sporting facilities for men versus women. Hopefully it will be reviewed in time. DaffodilOcean (talk) 03:35, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
Cecilia Hansen
Hey all! I translated the Russian article for Cecilia Hansen, but it was rather lacking in information on her violin playing beyond she toured here and there. If anyone is good at writing up this type of information and is so inclined, I would greatly appreciate the help :) She is also underlinked from other articles. (BTW loving our three-month translation event!) -Yupik (talk) 15:35, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks, Yupik, for your informative article. I was interested to see that you presented her as Danish while many of the other language versions say she was Russian. I'm afraid I haven't been able to find much more on her violin playing.--Ipigott (talk) 07:07, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
Brilliant Work Recognition for Cielquiparle
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Women in Red's Inspirer Award |
Did You Know that Cielquiparle's article about Olympic diver Millie Hudson, who attempted to swim across the Strait of Gibraltar in 1928, inspired an article about the Hammersmith Ladies Swimming Club and it complemented the article about Belle White, the first British diver to win an Olympic medal? More than this Cielquiparle's work has hinted that history needs to be corrected and our editor's are. Victuallers (talk) 18:09, 11 June 2022 (UTC) |
- Humbled. Thanks @Victuallers and Women in Red. We all stand on the shoulders of others, especially on Wikipedia. I wanted to take a moment to call out the Woman in Red who inspired *me* the most during my first few months on Wikipedia. She is probably completely unaware, but it's @PamD, whom I met virtually and whose User page taught me so much about what it's like to be a content creator. It's how I found Women in Red in the first place and I just wanted her to know that she has made a big difference in ways she probably never imagined. Thank you PamD. Cielquiparle (talk) 22:43, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Cielquiparle: Wow, thanks! I'm so glad to have been helpful. I think my User Page probably shows my rather random pattern of article creation, but they're mostly just solid little well-sourced stubs with all necessary incoming redirects but not a lot of content. (And I'm so glad that I've kept that record of why I created each one, as I'm sometimes surprised to find myself as the creating editor!) I'm impressed by editors who create serious substantial articles. We all contribute in different ways. PamD 23:34, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
- You are not the only one to appreciate the work of PamD. She has guided many of us into the importance of wikilinking, disambiguation and the inclusion of redirects, especially on variants of women's names.--Ipigott (talk) 07:21, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for those kind words, @Ipigott:. I know I bang on about redirects boringly often, but they really do help to make the connections which weave our web of articles together. And it's very satisfying to create a redirect from someone's full name, hit "What links here" and find she's been a red link for years in a list of prizewinners or something. Some of our women subjects are known by a great many different names during their lives, but any version of a name which turns up in any source is worth a redirect (plus likely variations thereof), because the next reader to look for it may be one who's seen that source and wants to know more about the person! PamD 18:01, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- I'll just add my thanks to PamD as well. I have a whole routine I go through when I finish writing an article and move it to mainspace. Run "dashes" and "date format"; add categories, project, and editathon banners; use the gadget to link/update wikidata; check "what links here"; and create alt name redirects. Although I often fail at adding articles to forename and surname lists, I always try to create alt name entries because PamD has shown us how important that is. It does take a village to integrate articles and I truly believe we all learn how to do that best from each other. SusunW (talk) 18:30, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks, @SusunW:: I'm sure DEFAULTSORT is in that list too, but I hope you and everyone else know the brilliant little template {{L}}, where
{{subst:L|1952|2022|Smith, Jane}}
adds the DEFAULTSORT and the birth and death categories ( or "living people" if no death date) for minimal typing. Sorry to hijack Cielquiparle's thread, but it seemed a useful place to remind people of this efficient little shortcut. PamD 05:39, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks, @SusunW:: I'm sure DEFAULTSORT is in that list too, but I hope you and everyone else know the brilliant little template {{L}}, where
- I'll just add my thanks to PamD as well. I have a whole routine I go through when I finish writing an article and move it to mainspace. Run "dashes" and "date format"; add categories, project, and editathon banners; use the gadget to link/update wikidata; check "what links here"; and create alt name redirects. Although I often fail at adding articles to forename and surname lists, I always try to create alt name entries because PamD has shown us how important that is. It does take a village to integrate articles and I truly believe we all learn how to do that best from each other. SusunW (talk) 18:30, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for those kind words, @Ipigott:. I know I bang on about redirects boringly often, but they really do help to make the connections which weave our web of articles together. And it's very satisfying to create a redirect from someone's full name, hit "What links here" and find she's been a red link for years in a list of prizewinners or something. Some of our women subjects are known by a great many different names during their lives, but any version of a name which turns up in any source is worth a redirect (plus likely variations thereof), because the next reader to look for it may be one who's seen that source and wants to know more about the person! PamD 18:01, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- You are not the only one to appreciate the work of PamD. She has guided many of us into the importance of wikilinking, disambiguation and the inclusion of redirects, especially on variants of women's names.--Ipigott (talk) 07:21, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Cielquiparle: Wow, thanks! I'm so glad to have been helpful. I think my User Page probably shows my rather random pattern of article creation, but they're mostly just solid little well-sourced stubs with all necessary incoming redirects but not a lot of content. (And I'm so glad that I've kept that record of why I created each one, as I'm sometimes surprised to find myself as the creating editor!) I'm impressed by editors who create serious substantial articles. We all contribute in different ways. PamD 23:34, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
Journalist, anyone?
While stub-sorting (and, OK, falling down a rabbit-hole on) Laura Bradley Park I made a redirect from Laura Bradley, the deceased child whose mother donated the land in her memory ... but we have a lot of en.wiki articles citing a different Laura Bradley, Hollywood journalist for Vanity Fair etc. Not sure whether she's notable - someone at home in that sort of area might like to look at her. Probably not the same person as this Laura Bradley. PamD 11:55, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
- I think we too often focus on “Notability”, a Wikipediacentric concept. Certainly the park is notable, the donor has an existing article, and if it is a substantial 100 acre resource with history. The real question is how best to cover it. Given its significance to the donor, it’s locality, and as a subject of historical and recreational significance in its own right I think it is best handled as an independent stand alone subject and It honk this is what our various guidelines indicate. It can be expanded and improved over time. FloridaArmy (talk) 23:17, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
- @FloridaArmy: I wasn't querying the park's notability: I was suggesting that someone might like to write about the other "Laura Park", the journalist. PamD 06:52, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
- I see. Well, according to this she writes for the Daily Beast and formerly wrote for Vanity Fair and Slate. I think unless she has notable works (wrote books?) or won some awards she wouldn’t be considered notable just for writing articles for these publications. FloridaArmy (talk) 12:56, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
- @FloridaArmy: I wasn't querying the park's notability: I was suggesting that someone might like to write about the other "Laura Park", the journalist. PamD 06:52, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
HOT – Tweet request
Hey Twitter team for WikiWomeninRed, do you think you could tweet huge Congratulations to both Lucy Moss and Toby Marlow for winning the Tony Award for Best Original Score for Six (musical)? They both have pictures on their bios now (thanks to Wiki contributors) and as background FYI, they share the award and Marlow has also set his own record as first out nonbinary composer-lyricist to win a Tony Award! Cielquiparle (talk) 18:53, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
- Ooo! Tweeted! I spotted this request. Suggest DM tweets to @wikiwomeninred... always like to get more ideas. Victuallers (talk) 07:27, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
Notable?
- Draft:Constance Porter Uzelac FloridaArmy (talk) 23:13, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
New article on Indonesian women's rights activist and a source request
Hello! I've just created Nani Soewondo-Soerasno; she's an Indonesian lawyer and women's rights activist. If anyone wants to contribute more content, please come along and help.
One request; if anyone can get access to The Indonesian Woman: Struggles and Achievements, a 1960 book by Cora Vreede-de Stuers, I suspect there's a good deal more information about Soewondo in there. A number of the later sources cite the Vreede book when talking about her, but I cannot access it online. I tried the Wikipedia Library and several other places - no luck. Happy editing! —Ganesha811 (talk) 01:59, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
Mary Lou Spiess
Please could editors on this project help me tidy up the details on the article on Mary Lou Spiess? She has been on my "Must Do" article list for over a decade since I first saw her on Wikipedia:Requested articles/Arts and entertainment/Fashion, but until recently, the only source for her was the Lawrence Journal piece, and I was worried that the deletionists would swiftly sweep her away for being "single source" even though she was obviously noteworthy. I am sure that she is no longer with us, mainly because there are only two people still alive today that use iron lungs (plus if she were, she would be 92 years old - pretty good going for a polio survivor), but I have not had much joy finding more than a few additional sources about her. Along the same note, I do need to try and pull something together about Hollynn Fuller Boies, the focus of the Lawrence Journal piece, and clearly someone else who did important and pioneering things in the field of disabled fashion, but all in good time - I just wanted to make sure that Spiess got her article first, and as someone who is themselves disabled, I would be SO grateful if anyone can help make it even better and not only improve the representation of women, but also of disabled people. Mabalu (talk) 01:14, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- Predictably my Newspapers.com account has expired and has to be renewed just when I need it, but I do see articles discussing Spiess. I’ll try to remember to circle back when next I have a chance after my account is renewed. Innisfree987 (talk) 02:00, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- I had a look on Newspaperarchive.com but there wasn't too much there other than what I used in the article. Hopefully Newspapers.com have some! Most of what I did find was references to (possibly) someone else with the same name in the late 40s and early 50s, which I wasn't really convinced was the same person. It does kind of seem as if there isn't much from California on the Newspaperarchive so maybe there will be more on Newspapers.com. Mabalu (talk) 19:02, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
Talk:Women Divers Hall of Fame
There's a discussion about listing inductees as redlinks based on the org itself. Your input is welcome. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:15, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
Guidance on improving poorly sourced article: Susy Schultz
This article on Susy Schultz is up for deletion. The discussion so far supports keeping but I'm trying to improve the sourcing so it doesn’t end back there. The subject does seem to meet notability guidelines but some of the information is not sourced and I have not yet been able to verify. There are sections that read like a resume or professional bio and are similar to her public LinkedIn profile (I'm not suggesting this has been used as a source though). My dilemma:
- How do editors decide when to remove unverifiable information?
- How to strike the balance between ensuring a biography is properly sourced and therefore preventing deletion due to unverified information, and including enough information in an article to support notability?
- To what extent does one consider the fact that information on women and information from the early days of the internet can be more difficult to source?
I’m still learning the ropes of Wikipedia so appreciate any advice folks can provide. Thanks BLELicaN (talk) 14:33, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
- Hi and welcome @BLELicaN! As far as notability is concerned, unverified information doesn’t help and if the person is still living, WP:BLP mostly discourages including it. To find more sources that may not be googleable, you could apply for a free Newspapers.com account through WP:Library (NB: there may be a minimum edit count requirement; I can’t recall). I see this subject mentioned in that database but my account renewal is currently pending or I would clip them for you now. Hope this general direction helps tho! Innisfree987 (talk) 04:48, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
Done Closed as keep. Innisfree987 (talk) 07:58, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
Training: Writing LGBTIQ+ biographies in Wikipedia
Some of our members might be interested in attending this training, facilitated by m:Wikimedia Argentina, on June 28th at 16:00 UTC; registration required to get the Zoom link. The event is a part of a series of open skill-share events organized by the m:Volunteer Supporters Network. See upcoming events here: m:Volunteer Supporters Network/Meetings. --Rosiestep (talk) 17:00, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
Draft:Lou Falkner Williams
Notable? FloridaArmy (talk) 10:22, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
Draft:Abby Ann Arthur Johnson
Would anyone be able to help me with this subject? FloridaArmy (talk) 11:28, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
- Has been accepted to mainspace. FloridaArmy (talk) 21:59, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
Draft:Calanthe (character)
I think this is an interesting subject. She is part of a Greek legend and her name appears as a genus of orchid Calanthe and for the Draft:Grand Court Order of Calanthe social and beneficial organization of African American women. Not sure if she’s independently notable but at the very least she could be merged to Damon and Pythias? Any mythology aficionados with expertise on her? FloridaArmy (talk) 12:51, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
Draft:Vanessa Lapa
Appears to be a notable subject. Well-developed article. Needs one more reliable source (in addition to [4]). Anyone interested in adopting? ~Kvng (talk) 17:46, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
- Google News gives quite a few hits for her name, amongst which https://forward.com/culture/479143/ophir-award-albert-speer-goes-to-hollywood-nazis-vanessa-lapa-andrew/ in which "The man who provided the source material for an Ophir-award winning documentary about Nazi architect Albert Speer is challenging the film’s accuracy, claiming the filmmakers put words in his — and Speer’s — mouth." --Tagishsimon (talk) 22:05, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
Missing articles by nationality not generating
I've had some issues with the automatically generated list at Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Missing articles by nationality/New Zealand not displaying people that I've made Wikidata entries for, such as Claire Regnault (Q112644152) and Kuni Kaa Jenkins (Q112640198), even though they have the WikiData items 'human' 'female' and 'New Zealand'. Does anyone know why they're not being displayed? --Prosperosity (talk) 02:45, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
- Main issue was the SPARQL underlying the report being limited to 1000 rows (and after deduplication of those rows, yielded about 870 table rows). I've removed the limit from the report, which now produces ~2200 rows in the table, including Claire Regnault and Kuni Kaa Jenkins. Whether or not wikidata redlists should be limited in length, and what those limits should be, is discussed here from time to time; the balance, roughly, is between comprehensive versus usable lists ... browsers don't work too well with multi-thousand row tables. Besides all that, the tool which generates redlists is defective in several respects, including just not getting around to refreshing pages; the tool owner not interested in acknowleding nor fixing the issues. So there we are. --Tagishsimon (talk) 03:00, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you! That there were 870 entries on a 1,000 person list confused me, making me think it wasn't the article limit. --Prosperosity (talk) 03:44, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
- Agreed, it looked odd. The SPARQL uses
?item wdt:P27|wdt:P17|wdt:P495|wdt:P1532 wd:Q664 .
which translates to any item that has 'country of citizenship', 'country', 'country of origin' or 'country for sport' set to New Zealand. A single item can have a couple of those - citizenship, sport - and if so will forms two rows in the initial select, one for each property statement; both counted against the limit. After selecting 1000 rows, Listeria deduplicates the items b/c it's designed to emit a single row per item table, and voila, 870 or howevermany items. --Tagishsimon (talk) 11:05, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
- Agreed, it looked odd. The SPARQL uses
- Thank you! That there were 870 entries on a 1,000 person list confused me, making me think it wasn't the article limit. --Prosperosity (talk) 03:44, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
WiR priorities for July
We are in the process of preparing our WiR events for July. As there didn't seem to be any strong new priorities, I have suggested "Award winners" (for which can draw on various redlists) and a geofocus on the "Baltic states" (Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania). Up to now, there have been no responses on our Ideas page but I would welcome reactions or other suggestions on how we should proceed.--Ipigott (talk) 06:12, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
Pipaluk Freuchen - concerns about WP:Synth
Hello all, I nominated Pipaluk Freuchen for a DYK recently, and during the review @Vladimir.copic kindly shared their concerns that the article might be a bit close to WP:Synth and perhaps notability, I would really welcome other people's views, particularly if they support @Vladimir.copic - we're all always learning! Link the DYK nomination is here Lajmmoore (talk) 10:58, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
- Lajmmoore: Looks to me as if you're doing a pretty good job on this. I see you've already linked to Vejen Kunstmuseum but there seem to be a few interesting items towards the end of the article.--Ipigott (talk) 09:46, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
- Lajmmoore, I think Vladimir.copic's concerns about notability were reasonable, as DYK articles are required to comply with Wikipedia policies. I didn’t see any synthesis, except "During a career as a children's writer", which I don’t think is supported by the references.
- There should be more information available via Scandinavian newspapers.
- https://www2.statsbiblioteket.dk/mediestream/avis/search/Pipaluk%20Freuchen Danish newspaper search 1,449 hits, without snippets
- https://www.nb.no/search?q=%22Pipaluk%20Freuchen%22&mediatype=aviser Norwegian newspaper search 164 hits, with snippets
- https://tidningar.kb.se/?q=Pipaluk%20Freuchen Swedish newspaper search 190 hits, with snippets
- For example, there was a short obituary in Dagens Nyheter at https://www.dn.se/arkiv/familj/dodsfall-utlandet-1999-04-15-2/
- The Berlingske Tidende article dated 10 April 1999 is presumably an obituary as well.
- Sign and ping Lajmmoore. TSventon (talk) 18:28, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
- TSventon Thanks so much for doing such a thorough search - I've added these sources to the article's talk page, since the review is OK to go, and hopefully they will help visitors in the future (until I get round to adding them at least)! It's been a good lesson for me! Lajmmoore (talk) 08:33, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
"Digital activists are using Wikipedia to change the narrative around women and climate work"
Shout-out to our year-long climate initiative: "Digital activists are using Wikipedia to change the narrative around women and climate work" by Jessica Kutz at The 19th. --Rosiestep (talk) 23:19, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks, Rosiestep, for linking to this interesting article. Unfortunately, we seem to be adding less than 15 new articles a month under "Climate". We should all try to spend more time on this important area if we are to have real impact. Nevertheless, I see Wikipedia already has 92 listed in Category:Women climatologists, 286 in Category:Women ecologists, as well as quite a number under Category:Women earth scientists and its various subcategories. We have a List of climate scientists but it might help if we developed a List of women climate scientists where we could also add pertinent women from all the related areas. If there is interest in this, I could make a start on it myself, perhaps working on a country-by-country basis as in similar lists. This could, for instance, help to encourage coverage of more women from some of the African countries lacking visibility.--Ipigott (talk) 09:15, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Marylize Biubwa
Project members may wish to comment at this AFD.4meter4 (talk) 01:53, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
- Maybe those interested in her story could expand the article on the basis of the many additional sources at AfD.--Ipigott (talk) 06:13, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
Looking for sports WikiProjects
Possibly an out-of-subject matter but I'm wondering if there are any sport WikiProjects on judo, table tennis and tennis as I am mostly making women's biographies in these sports. If somebody knows of any then is it possible if you could either send me an invite or link me to one of the WikiProjects. Thanks! SarahTHunter (talk) 15:51, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
- SarahTHunter Wikipedia:WikiProject Tennis exists, Wikipedia:WikiProject Table tennis is semi active and Wikipedia:WikiProject Martial arts should cover judo. Generally, if you want to join a WP, you just add your name to a list like Wikipedia:WikiProject Martial arts/Participants. TSventon (talk) 18:01, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
Bulgarian Women Scientists - useful list found
Looking around at a woman from one of the lists of red links led me to a useful-looking source (cited in her Bulgarian Wiki article): "Women in the History of the Academic Science in Bulgaria" It's a 354-page pdf, with the introduction in English as well as Bulgarian, and the names are transliterated although the main text is in Bulgarian but should be carefully translatable as they follow a standard layout. Such a long list that inclusion in it probably doesn't imply notability, but could be useful factual info to support any Bulgarian scientific bios. PamD 10:11, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
Women in Red in July 2022
Women in Red July 2022, Vol 8, Issue 7, Nos 214, 217, 234, 235
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--Lajmmoore (talk) 15:45, 27 June 2022 (UTC) via MassMessaging
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ann-Karin Müller
Project members may wish to comment here. Her name is spelled incorrectly in the AFD title because the article itself was titled incorrectly. (I just moved it). This may have impacted source searches by commenters at this discussion. All opinions welcome. Best.4meter4 (talk) 21:25, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
Can anyone who knows how to search Polish sources verify Anna Potok facts please?
The specific facts for Anna Potok that need a RS to confirm as someone just pulled their source as being self-created. - I have no reason to query their veracity because the other facts on Prabook have been confirmed correct via other sources, but was the only source that gave these (which I'm guessing must have been input by family given that everything else matches up perfectly with data in RS).
- Wedding date of 7 July 1930 (must be a marriage record in Poland, although I guess maybe destroyed during the War?)
- Received the Order of Polonia Restituta in 1934 (this is a big deal, if Prabook is correct. There MUST be official records of the recipents, I'm assuming in Poland/Polish texts? Even with a year to search, Google isn't much use.)
- Buried in Plainfield, Vermont (Her son lives in Vermont, so that's very credible).
I suspect I need someone who knows how to search Polish records to confirm the first two, but I have no reason to query any of these statements. Thank you so much! Mabalu (talk) 22:50, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
#ChangeTheStory
After a long pregnancy .... WikimediaUK and CareInternational are partnering with us to try and assist our prime objective and to raise our profile in the UK. They are intending to have a changing theme over the next few months and they will imminently be running a banner on the en:Wiki in the UK.
The partnership has been quiet since an abortive run for International Women's Day (March 8) was cancelled by "Ukraine" becoming CARE International's main priority. We are trying to encourage the project to discuss their ideas at our ideas page so that we better co-ordinate. The banner looks like this:
One of Wikimedia UK's leads is @Richard Nevell (WMUK): and we anticipate that this will lead to even more volunteers, more articles and the needle pushing towards 20%. It is worth remembering that there have been over 60 editathons organised by WMUK in Edinburgh - I went to a virtual one last Friday and I hope to attend another (about diversity as well as WiR) in person tomorrow. Victuallers (talk) 17:10, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
- Hi folks! Pretty much what Victuallers says, and it will also be an opportunity to draw some attention to the good work WiR have already done. Richard Nevell (WMUK) (talk) 18:03, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
@Victuallers and Richard Nevell (WMUK): I am excited to see this! Not sure of the scope of what y'all are talking about, but we have a woeful gap in our knowledge even of women, i.e. Black women, specifically those who worked in Brixton, Moss Side, and Paddington in the 1950s-1970s period. If there was a way establish connections with the Black Cultural Archives or other such groups in the UK like the Windrush Foundation, that might help address the problem. It isn't just that there aren't articles, there are also virtually no photographs on commons that deal with the community or the social movements surrounding them. Victuallers is aware of the issues experienced on taking Olive Morris to FA, but recently published Gerlin Bean has no, zip, zero nada photographs. Though we had a group of people looking for images of Bean, Abeng Centre (7 Gresham Road, is now called Karibu Center), 70s Coffee Bar (70 Harrow Road), Afiwe School (held in Santley School, which closed in 1997), 7 Canterbury Crescent, 3 & 5 Gresham Road, 61 Golborne Road, Ansel Wong, Reverend Anthony Ottey, Gloria Cameron, Mabel Carter, Lu Garvey, Tony Soares, Olive Morris, Zainab Abbas, Beverley Bryan, Liz Obi, Gail Lewis, or Stella Dadzie absolutely nothing was found that could be used on commons. We need more access to both resource materials and photographs. SusunW (talk) 19:46, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
- Thats timely SusunW, I've been accused (with humour) of being obsessed with "getting more images". Your message above justifies (some of) my weird behaviour. People are not going to see more black women until we add more pictures of them.. and that goes equally for those with disabilities including those who lack a Y chromosome. (A fairly frequest condition I understand that affects over 50% of the population at large but less that 20% on wiki :-).) I think this is something we should consider paying for. I'd like to find the funding to send a photographer to an awards evening, to a graduate show, to a women's football match, to Brixton, a pride event ... to just take photos and load them to commons. Not arty well posed photos that take an hour to pose, but just well framed snaps with well written licences delivered on a piece rate. We do have Wikipedians who know how to do this (esp. WMUK) and we have others I know who are horns of (photographic) plenty. US gov are very good at this but we need to find a university and a learned society, a football club etc who are willing to experiment with this change. Victuallers (talk) 20:31, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
- Yes to all of that! A picture is worth a thousand words, and gee, how you get around "illustrated with appropriate photographs" for a good article nomination when there are absolutely none, I have no clue. Current or historic photos of women are definitely lacking. I literally thought I should take my camera and just go take photos, for Bean's article, but figured it'd be a wee bit of a far walk from Mexico. SusunW (talk) 20:50, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
- Thats timely SusunW, I've been accused (with humour) of being obsessed with "getting more images". Your message above justifies (some of) my weird behaviour. People are not going to see more black women until we add more pictures of them.. and that goes equally for those with disabilities including those who lack a Y chromosome. (A fairly frequest condition I understand that affects over 50% of the population at large but less that 20% on wiki :-).) I think this is something we should consider paying for. I'd like to find the funding to send a photographer to an awards evening, to a graduate show, to a women's football match, to Brixton, a pride event ... to just take photos and load them to commons. Not arty well posed photos that take an hour to pose, but just well framed snaps with well written licences delivered on a piece rate. We do have Wikipedians who know how to do this (esp. WMUK) and we have others I know who are horns of (photographic) plenty. US gov are very good at this but we need to find a university and a learned society, a football club etc who are willing to experiment with this change. Victuallers (talk) 20:31, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
Anyone fancy working on Swedish female author bios with me?
I've been slowly working on this for a few months and only just got to the end of the A's. Now it's the B's and there's a good number to do. The subject matter's normally pretty interesting, and makes a change from the milhist stuff I've worked on elsewhere on this here wiki. My favourite so far was Lis Asklund. FOARP (talk) 19:05, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
- FOARP: I see you have adopted a very systematic approach to Swedish writers. I have contributed many biographies of Swedish women from a variety of fields (most recently opera) but I usually start by examining their coverage in biographical dictionaries or similar dependable resources. In the case of writers, I see there are still a few with names including A or B in Svenskt kvinnobiografiskt lexikon which usually includes coverage in English. If notability is reflected in at least two other reliable sources, I may well create biographies but will also be looking for women in areas such as art, music, dance and theatre. I'll keep and eye on your Bs and try to avoid duplication. Thanks for all your work on the As. Happy editing!--Ipigott (talk) 10:45, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks Ipigott! Yeah it's definitely not the case that every one of the women on that list is sufficiently notable for an article (at least based on the sources I've got access to) which is why I've been marking a lot of them as
Not done, though for some of them I'm pretty sure that someone with better sources than me could probably do something for them. Normally I would create articles more organically than this but this systemised approach does have the advantage of delivering more variety because each one may be a completely different person with different history. A number did not have NE articles but were still quite notable, so it did also give them coverage, others did have NE articles but I could not find any coverage in other sources for them. FOARP (talk) 10:54, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
- FOARP, I have had a look at Svenskt kvinnobiografiskt lexikon and merged 9 duplicate Wikidata items. I don't think any of them were authors. TSventon (talk) 15:15, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks Ipigott! Yeah it's definitely not the case that every one of the women on that list is sufficiently notable for an article (at least based on the sources I've got access to) which is why I've been marking a lot of them as
Women in Red Translation Contest | April-May-June 2022
The three month Women in Red Translation Contest ended on June 3oth. There were 26 active participants, with 455 articles translated. Translations were submitted from 45 languages from Afrikaans to Vietnamese. The list of articles can be found on the Translation Contest page
Competing for badges, barnstars and bragging rights; the Contest winners are:
- Winner: Dandilero with 92 new articles
- Second place: Roundtheworld with 72 new articles
- Third place: Fixer88 with 71 new articles
- Roundtheworld translated from 24 languages!
Thank you to everyone who participated. The final results tabulations can be veiwed at the Contest talk page
To those who participated, please feel free to self-report here on your translation experiences and share any tips or resources you discovered.
Congratulations for a great contest. WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 17:13, 2 July 2022 (UTC)