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Old stuff to resolve eventually
Cueless billiards
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Categories are not my thing but do you think there are enough articles now or will be ever to make this necessary? Other than Finger billiards and possibly Carrom, what else is there?--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 11:12, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
Sad...How well forgotten some very well known people are. The more I read about Yank Adams, the more I realize he was world famous. Yet, he's almost completely unknown today and barely mentioned even in modern billiard texts.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 13:47, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
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Some more notes on Crystalate
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Some more notes: they bought Royal Worcester in 1983 and sold it the next year, keeping some of the electronics part.[3]; info about making records:[4]; the chair in 1989 was Lord Jenkin of Roding:[5]; "In 1880, crystalate balls made of nitrocellulose, camphor, and alcohol began to appear. In 1926, they were made obligatory by the Billiards Association and Control Council, the London-based governing body." Amazing Facts: The Indispensable Collection of True Life Facts and Feats. Richard B. Manchester - 1991wGtDHsgbtltnpBg&ct=result&id=v0m-h4YgKVYC&dq=%2BCrystalate; a website about crystalate and other materials used for billiard balls:No5 Balls.html. Fences&Windows 23:37, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
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No one has actually objected to the idea that it's really pointless for WP:SAL to contain any style information at all, other than in summary form and citing MOS:LIST, which is where all of WP:SAL's style advice should go, and SAL page should move back to WP:Stand-alone lists with a content guideline tag. Everyone who's commented for 7 months or so has been in favor of it. I'd say we have consensus to start doing it. — SMcCandlish Talk⇒ ɖ∘¿¤þ Contrib. 13:13, 2 March 2012 (UTC) |
You post at Wikipedia talk:FAQ/Copyright
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That page looks like a hinterland (you go back two users in the history and you're in August). Are you familiar with WP:MCQ? By the way, did you see my response on the balkline averages?--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 15:54, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
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Hee Haw
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Yeah, we did get along on Donkeys. And probably will get along on some other stuff again later. Best way to handle WP is to take it issue by issue and then let bygones be bygones. I'm finding some interesting debates over things like the line between a subspecies, a landrace and a breed. Just almost saw someone else's GA derailed over a "breed versus species" debate that was completely bogus, we just removed the word "adapt" and life would have been fine. I'd actually be interested in seeing actual scholarly articles that discuss these differences, particularly the landrace/breed issue in general, but in livestock in particular, and particularly as applied to truly feral/landrace populations (if, in livestock, there is such a thing, people inevitably will do a bit of culling, sorting and other interference these days). I'm willing to stick to my guns on the WPEQ naming issue, but AGF in all respects. Truce? Montanabw(talk) 22:40, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
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Redundant sentence?
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The sentence at MOS:LIFE "General names for groups or types of organisms are not capitalized except where they contain a proper name (oak, Bryde's whales, rove beetle, Van cat)" is a bit odd, since the capitalization would (now) be exactly the same if they were the names of individual species. Can it simply be removed? There is an issue, covered at Wikipedia:PLANTS#The use of botanical names as common names for plants, which may or may not be worth putting in the main MOS, namely cases where the same word is used as the scientific genus name and as the English name, when it should be de-capitalized. I think this is rare for animals, but more common for plants and fungi (although I have seen "tyrannosauruses" and similar uses of dinosaur names). Peter coxhead (talk) 09:17, 3 May 2014 (UTC)
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Note to self on WP:WikiProject English language
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Finish patching up WP:WikiProject English language with the stuff from User:SMcCandlish/WikiProject English Language, and otherwise get the ball rolling. — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼ 20:22, 17 August 2016 (UTC) |
Excellent mini-tutorial
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Somehow, I forget quite how, I came across this - that is an excellent summary of the distinctions. I often get confused over those, and your examples were very clear. Is something like that in the general MoS/citation documentation? Oh, and while I am here, what is the best way to format a citation to a page of a document where the pages are not numbered? All the guidance I have found says not to invent your own numbering by counting the pages (which makes sense), but I am wondering if I can use the 'numbering' used by the digitised form of the book. I'll point you to an example of what I mean: the 'book' in question is catalogued here (note that is volume 2) and the digitised version is accessed through a viewer, with an example of a 'page' being here, which the viewer calls page 116, but there are no numbers on the actual book pages (to confuse things further, if you switch between single-page and double-page view, funny things happen to the URLs, and if you create and click on a single-page URL the viewer seems to relocate you one page back for some reason). Carcharoth (talk) 19:10, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
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You had previously asked that protection be lowered on WP:MEDMOS which was not done at that time. I have just unprotected the page and so if you have routine update edits to make you should now be able to do so. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 06:42, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
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Ooh...potential WikiGnoming activity...
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I stumbled upon Category:Editnotices whose targets are redirects and there are ~100 pages whose pages have been moved, but the editnotices are still targeted to the redirect page. Seems like a great, and sort of fun, WikiGnoming activity for a template editor such as yourself. I'd do it, but I'm not a template editor. Not sure if that's really your thing, though. ;-) Cheers,
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Don't forget to deal with: Template talk:Cquote#Template-protected edit request on 19 April 2020. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 14:48, 20 April 2020 (UTC) |
Now this
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Not sure the ping went through, so noting here. Just spotted where a now-blocked user moved a bunch of animal breed articles back to parenthetical disambiguation from natural disambiguation. As they did it in October and I'm only catching it now, I only moved back two just in case there was some kind of consensus change. The equine ones are definitely against project consensus, the rest are not my wheelhouse but I'm glad to comment. Talk:Campine_chicken#Here_we_go_again. Montanabw(talk) 20:14, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
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McCandless surname page
Can you explain to me were you are getting your information from that McCandless is a name of Scottish origin? The first recorded instance of the surname McCandless I can find in the Scottish census records is from 1861. And it is one single instance. The name McCandless and its derivatives have been in use from 1000 years prior in Ireland. The only places I can find online that claims it to be a name of Scottish origin are the kinds of websites that sell Scottish tat and fake tartans and coats of arms to Americans. The earliest form of McCandless available in the Irish census records is from the 1831 census and there's 12 recorded instances, mostly from the Coleraine area. I'm descended from those McCandless's. With the earliest example of the name being an Irish abbot, how is it a name of Scottish origin? If anything, it was a name taken to Scotland with the movement of people between the kingdom of Dal Riada and onwards (and I still live in a place that was part of Dal Riada). I have found absolutely no evidence to confirm that the name is in anyway a name of Scottish origin. Its.bjallenby (talk) 12:18, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
- @Its.bjallenby: This is a whole lot of stuff to cover. I'm going to break it down into numbered points.
- I don't consider the McCandless (surname) article to be "finished". It needs a lot of work on both Scottish and Irish sourcing (including sources mentioned below). That is mostly done in libraries (and genealogy libraries at that), not online. Most of the sources are not going to be found online. However, the fact that you can find weak sources online doesn't tell us anything about the strength of other sources, online or not, nor about the nature of the claim. Anyway, I will get to it over time, but have been working on the Ó Cuindlis article first.
- The main source for this sort of thing on the Scottish side is Black, George F. (1946). The Surnames of Scotland: Their Origin, Meaning, and History. New York Public Library. pp. 131, 464. It uses much more than census records. The name, under numerous anglicized spellings, is common to at least as early as the 17th century in Wigtownshire and thereabouts. This was during the extended Plantation of Ulster, leading into the Lowland Clearances, and pre-dating the Jacobite Risings and the Highland Clearances, all of which are events that pushed Scots into Ulster (mostly what is now Northern Ireland).
- The exact spelling McCandless and close variants like McCandles, McCanless, McAndless are best regarded as Scots-Irish, i.e. as both Scottish and Northern Irish. We don't have any reason to think the Gaelic patronymic form wasn't in use throughout this whole area going back to Dál Riata (I think that's a point we agree on), since the given name dates back to at least the 8th century. However, we don't have any secondary sources making this point explicitly. The closest we get is Black saying that the Gaelic patronymic forms like mac Cuindlis and mac Cuindleas would have first been used in Ireland. Black's point doesn't in any way prove continual use of it in the exact McCandless form in Ireland. It's probable but not proven. It's also certain that McCandless in particular was re-imported to N. Ir. from Scotland, whether it had already been in use in N. Ir. or not.
- Aside: None of these "Mc" shenanigans appear to relate in any way to the history of Ó Cuindlis and its anglicized derivates (Conlisk, Cundlish, Quinlisk, etc.) in Connacht. After 30-odd years of researching this stuff I can't find a single shred of proof they are the same family. They're unrelated families that both had progenitors named Cuindles or some variant of it. (And for that matter, there's no proof all the McCandless, McCandlish, McAndless, McCanleis, etc., etc. families are directly related either; for all we know there might have been 5 or more Cuindlis fellows whose mac Cuindlis patronymic sons later gave rise to Mc[Something] surnames, but this isn't a discussion for Wikipedia.)
- The main sources on the Irish side for surname stuff are:
MacLysaght, Edward (1997) [1957]. The Surnames of Ireland (6th ed.). Dublin: Irish Academic Press. pp. 35, 36, 252.
Woulfe, Patrick (1922). Sloinnte Gaedheal is Gall – Irish Names and Surnames. Vol. II. Dublin: M. H. Gill & Son. pp. 68, 91, 93. (The 1923 edition would be better, but I have yet to get my hands on it.)
They both record the existence of McCandless in Ulster without any dating of it historically. By contrast, the history of Ó Cuindlis is well known to the 14th century. Neither source precludes McCandless having been largely imported to N. Ir. from Scotland (nor it having pre-existed in N. Ir.; we simply don't know). - To the extent you're trying to come up with an "origin theory" based on your own census-record digging, you are engaging in WP:Original research (as well as just repeating a fraction of research already done by Black, MacLysaght, and Woulfe). FWIW, my own theory is that the name was in use in both Scotland and Ireland in some overlapping anglicized forms like "McCandless" since anglicisation began, but it will take more research, and may just be unprovable. It's also pretty well-established by genealogy projects that many of the North American McCandlesses (the largest extant group of them) are from N. Ir. yet trace back further to Scotland, some in great detail. I'm skeptical these are good enough sources for WP, however, even those published in book form.
- Your 1831 is long after the Plantantion of Ulster and all those other events, so is not evidentiary of origin.
- You are mixing up old Gaelic patronymics and modern anglicised surnames. The statement "The name McCandless and its derivatives have been in use from 1000 years prior in Ireland" is just patently false. Gaelic patronymics like mac Cuindlis and dynastics like Ó Cuindlis have been in use throughout the Gaelic-speaking world for 1000+ years, inclucing Ireland, Scotland, and the Isle of Man. This tells us nothing about where and when particular anglicised spellings (which have only been around for a few hundred years, and which were often treated as interchangable for several centuries) arose, and what the relationships between them are.
- You are also mixing up personal and family names. The existence of the Gaelic given name Cuindles in Ireland since the 8th c. is meaningless in this discussion. All Gaelic names first arose in Ireland, by definition, since Gaelic spread from Ireland to Scotland and IoM, not the other way around. (Names unique to Scotland and unattested in Ireland are of Norse, Anglo-Saxon, or other origin and are not natively Gaelic.) This tells us nothing about when and where a particular anglicisation of a post-patronymics surname appeared.
- Coleraine doesn't even faintly surprise me. It's firmly within the area of the Plantion of Ulster, and is right on the cusp of early private colonisation efforts and subsequent official plantation, so it may well have been Scot-colonized twice back-to-back. That said, none of the major sources on surnames in Ireland say anything about Coleraine in particular, so you again appear to be engaging in original research. (It may well be entirely correct in finding a family cluster of McCandlesses in Coleraine, but reliable secondary sources are not telling us this.)
- In short, you are confusing "McCandless is a surname of Scotland and Northern Ireland" for a claim that "Cuindles is a name of Scottish origin", but those two claims have nothing in common, and the second cannot logically be derived from the first (and is not correct, while the first clearly is).
- — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 22:18, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
The existence of the name Cuindles in Ireland since the 8th century is highly relevant when "Mac Cuindleas" is derived from it. Monastery towns were population centres and abbots were marrying and having children during those times. Relatives and descendants of Cuindles would have used his and variations of his name. Clonmacnoise was just one of many large Monastery settlements across Ireland. Unless you've got a Scottish Cuindlis spiderman meme pointing at the Irish one, the name and all the derivatives of it, regardless of what you claim, with the evidence we do actually have is of Irish origin. But clearly I've pissed in a pot I shouldn't have and I really couldn't be bothered arguing the fucking toss about it. Its.bjallenby (talk) 22:44, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
- I've already addressed all this above. In short, we know that Cuindles and variants of this given name were used among Gaelic speakers since the 8th century. We also know that patronymics were used since before that time and up to the early modern era (throughout Gaeldom, including both Ireland and Scotland). And we also know that these were rather randomly anglicized over the last several hundred years and became non-patronymic surnames. We have no idea where the specific anglicization "McCandless" first appeared or when. We have reliable sources putting it in Ulster and in Scotland from the early modern period onward, and we have earlier data for Scotland than for N. Ir., plus what amounted to a long-term Scottish invasion of N. Ir. Our article doesn't even go into that, nor the fact that we actually have no evidence of "McCandless" as a specific spelling existing in Ireland at all until after the Plantation. Rather than go in circles with you again, I'm going to just address the elephant in the room: you're clearly bothered by Scotland being mentioned at the article at all, yet Black (1946) establishes that it's correct, just as MacLysaght and Woulfe show it also correct for N. Ir. The matter has simply been sourced beyond anyone's ability to sweep Scotland under the rug or otherwise engage in a false dichtomy. The article itself needs all these sources directly in it, and I'll get to it when I'm done with Ó Cuindlis. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 23:24, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
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- You've create also Template:Taxobox/Status sandbox, is it not needed anymore? Gonnym (talk) 16:21, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
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Hi SMcCandlish, hope you've been well since we last spoke. I've created a userspace draft for Kelly Zhang, the CEO of ByteDance China, and was hoping you could take a look and move the draft to mainspace if it looks ready to you. I'm fairly certain she passes WP:GNG, and I avoided using promotional language, but just to be safe, I would rather an uninvolved editor like you be the one performing the move. Thank you! JatBD (talk) 21:51, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
- @JatBD: I did minor cleanup on it, but someone who reads Chinese should give it a once-over to make sure the sources agree with what's being said in the article. Maybe ask at WP:WikiProject China. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 00:18, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
- Hi again SMcCandlish. Since CWH has vetted the Chinese sources, would you mind moving the draft to mainspace when you get a chance? Thanks, JatBD (talk) 20:57, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
- @JatBD: Needs appropriate categories added first. Can be done inside an HTML-comment block to prevent live categorization of a userspace draft. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 21:13, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
- @JatBD: I added some core categories but some additional would be good, if more information can be found (city, university, etc.). I moved the article to mainspace, as Kelly Zhang, and made her name a link in the ByteDance infobox. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 04:21, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you! I've added one more category, though I was unable to find any more information on Zhang's hometown or university. I'm also checking internally to see if there is a suitable image owned by ByteDance that can be published under a free license. Thanks for your help, JatBD (talk) 03:56, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
- @JatBD: I added some core categories but some additional would be good, if more information can be found (city, university, etc.). I moved the article to mainspace, as Kelly Zhang, and made her name a link in the ByteDance infobox. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 04:21, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
- @JatBD: Needs appropriate categories added first. Can be done inside an HTML-comment block to prevent live categorization of a userspace draft. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 21:13, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
- Hi again SMcCandlish. Since CWH has vetted the Chinese sources, would you mind moving the draft to mainspace when you get a chance? Thanks, JatBD (talk) 20:57, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
Books & Bytes – Issue 48
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Issue 48, November – December 2021
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Hey there! Thought I'd message you about some concerns of mine regarding the lack of neutrality on the be-tarask Wikipedia. I noticed you'd been active on the Belarus WikiProject relatively recently so thought this may be of interest to you.
Currently, its article on Alexander Lukashenko says in part:
- Alexander Lukashenko ... is the head of the Russian occupation administration, a puppet, pro-Russian, authoritarian leader of Belarus who holds power by rigging elections and terrorizing Belarusians with financial, military, and informational support from Russia. ... On April 21, Russian President Vladimir Putin mentioned Belarus in the context of an alleged FSB attempt to overthrow the Lukashenko regime as a Russian-controlled territory in which Russia would determine what was a coup and what was not.
(At least, according to Google Translate). A similar descriptor is given on the "Lukashenko regime" article (which also exists in Ukrainian, but seems to use more neutral language).
There also appears to be a "Russian occupation of Belarus" article (does not exist in any other language, including standard Belarusian), which says:
- The Russian occupation of Belarus is the de facto Russian occupation of Belarus, an open demonstration of which took place on February 24, 2022, when the Russian invasion of Ukraine took place, including from the territory of Belarus. The Russian occupation administration is a puppet regime of Lukashenko, its head is the proclaimed "president" Alexander Lukashenko. One of the main measures taken by the Russian authorities (the Russian Empire, the USSR, the Russian Federation) and its occupation administrations at different times is the continuous violent Russification of Belarusians. The term "Russian occupation of Belarus" first appeared in the autumn of 1917.
This seems to be promoting false histories and original research (Lukashenko is pro-Russian and democracy doesn't really exist in the country, but it is not an "occupation" in the conventional sense, and the link to 1917 appears novel).
These are just two that caught my eye. I don't know whether this is limited to a few articles, or whether it is a more ingrained issue of ideological bias on the Taraškievica wiki in a similar vein to the Croatian Wikipedia situation. Notably, Taraškievica is spoken by the Belarusian diaspora, who I suspect are statistically more likely to be anti-regime. —AFreshStart (talk) 14:59, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
- I don't speak any of the relevant languages, and am not in position to help "police" the content over there. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 21:27, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
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The Prayer is on the Main page, finally + new flowers, and btw: the TFA is a young writer's first --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:38, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
Azov Battalion
I have started a discussion in which you may care to comment at [[9]] Cheers Elinruby (talk) 02:19, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
- I don't have anything to add that's not been said by others, from what I can tell. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 22:09, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
Huzzah!
Portal:Cue sports is back, new and improved compared to the old version. The Portal:Cue sports/Selected articles page could use more entries, so if you're into it, feel free to add articles there. Cheers, North America1000 09:43, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
- @Northamerica1000: What sort of criteria do you have in mind? I see that GA and FA pages already have their own sections in the portal. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 19:37, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
- It may be all right now. I added more articles, including many more bio articles to the Selected article section. At any rate, if you know of something that must be there, but isn't, then you could add to the Selected articles page. After all, you're the hustler, not me. North America1000 22:04, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
- Also, hey Saint McCandlish, long live the Cue sports portal. May it exist FOREVER. Hurrah, hurrah, hurrah! North America1000 13:36, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
- Looks good. I think this version will do well. Thanks for putting the work into it. :-) — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 19:47, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you kindly. North America1000 01:31, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
- Hi! Great work on this - I'm completely unsure how portals work (I think I'm a little too new for that), but I saw today that Parapivot showed up on the Did you know lists. Not really a cue sports thing - any idea why it appeared? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 21:52, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
- If you mean it showed up in the DYK part of the portal, no idea. It's not in any cue sports categories, so I'm not sure what would get it into the portal's list. If you mean on the front page DKY, that's controlled by the WP:DYK process. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 00:00, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
- Hi! Great work on this - I'm completely unsure how portals work (I think I'm a little too new for that), but I saw today that Parapivot showed up on the Did you know lists. Not really a cue sports thing - any idea why it appeared? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 21:52, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
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Issue 49, January – February 2022
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Help with new infobox.
Hi! I'm trying to make an infobox, and the Wikiproject infobox doesn't seem terribly active. Looking through the list of members, you seemed a reasonable person to bug at random. Sorry. :)
My draft infobox is here: User:PianoDan/Infobox particle accelerator
I've posted it for comment at the Physics wikiproject, and made some changes based on feedback there, but I'm unsure of next steps. WP:IB/Proposed seems to be defunct.
So, assuming the general concept of a particle accelerator infobox makes sense, (it does to ME, but that may not be dispositive) I need to figure out how to do the following, and in what order:
- Add categories to the infobox, without accidentally adding something in my personal space to lists of categories before moving it into general space.
- Add coordinates to the examples and the template, without causing the same problem. (cough, again, cough)
- Move the thing into the general space.
- Other things that I don't even know I don't know.
Thanks for any help you may have time to provide! PianoDan (talk) 16:57, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
- Commenting here based on this edit summary (the diff itself fixed your coord issue) - I've moved the ib to the template space (I agree that it's pretty much good to go). As far as cats go, they should be added to the /doc (as it says in the commented-out note) - at the bottom you'll see a {{sandbox other}} call - categories go in there. Primefac (talk) 18:04, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
- Another talk page stalker adding my two cents - The example shows that it displays well and correctly, so looks pretty good. Some thoughts on infobox classification are Category:Physics infobox templates and Category:Buildings and structures infobox templates. Once you start rolling out, you'll probably get a few people who watchlist the accelerator pages to start adding in some functionality and other fields to the infobox. In some ways, just putting out a functional infobox into articles can be the best way of optimizing it. VanIsaac, MPLL contWpWS 18:35, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you both for your help! Much appreciated! PianoDan (talk) 19:13, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
- Argh, something is broken. Specifically the first value after each header (type, energy, and length) do not display, even if given a value. Turning off autoheaders (by blanking the value, not by changing y to n) does not seem to fix the problem. What have I missed? (Template has been added to the Large Hadron Collider and Relativistic Heavy Ion Collider pages. Maybe I shouldn't have gone straight for the biggest one in the world, but I already had the example.) PianoDan (talk) 19:54, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you both for your help! Much appreciated! PianoDan (talk) 19:13, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
- Glad I have talk page stalkers. :-) This all seems to be well in hand. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 12:08, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
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Plural vs singular article names
Hey, is there a guideline about singular vs plural article titles? I'm pretty sure Gusans should just be 'Gusan' since it was a role (like Troubadour). I don't know that this would even be controversial, so perhaps a formal RM isn't necessary? Not sure. Best – Aza24 (talk) 00:03, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
- @Aza24: Yes, it should be singular, per WP:SINGULAR. We use plurals for things that are almost exclusively named plural in format (scissors, trousers), and for certain other classes of things, like ethnicities and nationalities (when "Foo people" doesn't work), because the article is about them en masse (Semitic people, Aztecs); and in such a case we prefer the singular form when it is also more commonly used as the plural than a -s or -es plural that is also attested (thus Navajo even though "Navajos" is also found in sources). This plurality does not generalize to other things, like occupations and the like (troubadour, astronomer, hero, viscount), or plants/animals (Douglas fir, cougar, Siamese cat). Anyway, gusans is clearly against WP:SINGULAR so should be proposed for a move to something like gusan (occupation) – Gusan being a disambiguation page already, and this topic not being the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for that name (doesn't look like there is one, or that page would be at Gusan (disambiguation)). — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 10:29, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for all of this. I'm not even sure if 'gusan' is the most common spelling. I didn't even know the article existed because I was so used to the "gosan" spelling. It appears that in Persia it is referred to as 'gosan' but is 'gusan' in Armenia. Hmm... I will have to look further. Aza24 (talk) 22:45, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
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dance and singing, peace doves and icecream the composer looks better than when I wrote last. I wonder if you might be the right person to question the 2010 ban of infoboxes by one project which was cited in the discussion. I'm too involved. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:04, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
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"This is not LeftistsOnlyPedia"
Fully agree; thanks for such a concise comment. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 15:15, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
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University of Wisconsin System dashes
Any thoughts on the en-dashes used in University of Wisconsin System, and in the titles of the linked articles? (I also wonder if "System" should be lowercase.) — BarrelProof (talk) 20:02, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
- @BarrelProof: Better dashes than hyphens, I would think. "University of Wisconsin System" seems to be its statorily-determined proper name, and "System" for this strongly dominates in the source material [10]. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 20:20, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
- I agree about hyphens, but I would be more inclined to spaced en dashes than unspaced ones, or a comma or space instead, as with the University of California or University of Washington campuses. An unspaced en dash seems like a conjoining, which is not what these are. — BarrelProof (talk) 20:26, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
- Universities are all over the map on how they do this: University of Foo, Bar; University of Foo Bar; University of Foo–Bar; University of Foo - Bar; University of Foo at Bar; University of Foo, Bar Campus; etc., etc. 'Snot a hill I would die on. There's no way to ngrams-test this, since Google's ngram viewer doesn't handle dashes. But I guess you could look through news materials and try to see whether space-dash-space is common, and if so propose a move to that format for clarity's sake. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 20:35, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
- Dicklyon may have already looked into this before. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 20:37, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for the responses. I was just looking around for examples of dashed and hyphenated university/college names for purposes of the ongoing discussion at Talk:Heriot-Watt University #Requested move 8 May 2022, and I bumped into these unusual ones. Two similar examples have already been mentioned in that discussion – Lenoir–Rhyne University and Randolph–Macon College. — BarrelProof (talk) 20:42, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
- That's a very different thing. In UW–Green Bay, it's not two parallel names, but some kind of "subtitle" relationship that colleges use for campuses. You almost always see it with spaced or unspaced hyphen, which suggests that unspaced dash might be OK in our style, but I agree that spaced dash might be more sensible. Personally, I'd prefer to just put a space and leave out the dash, as some do. But maybe it's better to let this one lie. And for lowercasing "System", maybe; depends on whether sources cap consistently, and I haven't looked. Dicklyon (talk) 20:53, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for the responses. I was just looking around for examples of dashed and hyphenated university/college names for purposes of the ongoing discussion at Talk:Heriot-Watt University #Requested move 8 May 2022, and I bumped into these unusual ones. Two similar examples have already been mentioned in that discussion – Lenoir–Rhyne University and Randolph–Macon College. — BarrelProof (talk) 20:42, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
- I agree about hyphens, but I would be more inclined to spaced en dashes than unspaced ones, or a comma or space instead, as with the University of California or University of Washington campuses. An unspaced en dash seems like a conjoining, which is not what these are. — BarrelProof (talk) 20:26, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
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Thank you for improving articles in May! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:03, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
I like my talk today (actually mostly from 29 May - I took the title pic), enjoy the music, two related videos worth watching! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:22, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
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New Page Patrol newsletter May 2022
Hello SMcCandlish,
At the time of the last newsletter (No.26, September 2021), the backlog was 'only' just over 6,000 articles. In the past six months, the backlog has reached nearly 16,000, a staggering level not seen in several years. A very small number of users had been doing the vast majority of the reviews. Due to "burn-out", we have recently lost most of this effort. Furthermore, several reviewers have been stripped of the user right for abuse of privilege and the articles they patrolled were put back in the queue.
Several discussions on the state of the process have taken place on the talk page, but there has been no action to make any changes. The project also lacks coordination since the "position" is vacant.
In the last 30 days, only 100 reviewers have made more than 8 patrols and only 50 have averaged one review a day. There are currently 738 New Page Reviewers, but about a third have not had any activity in the past month. All 1034 administrators have this permission, but only about a dozen significantly contribute to NPP.
This means we have an active pool of about 450 to address the backlog. We cannot rely on a few to do most of the work as that inevitably leads to burnout. A fairly experienced reviewer can usually do a review in a few minutes. If every active reviewer would patrol just one article per day, the backlog would very quickly disappear.
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The time goes fast and we're nearly halfway again to the next one. There's been some talk recently about non admins being on the committee. There might be several more such candidates this time. I hope you'll be among them. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 07:45, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
- Will think about it. It'll really come down to whether I'm certain I'll have the time for it, and I won't know that until closer to the election. Thanks for your early support, though. :-) — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 10:19, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
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Editing newsletter 2022 – #1
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The New topic tool helps editors create new ==Sections== on discussion pages. New editors are more successful with this new tool. You can read the report. Soon, the Editing team will offer this to all editors at most WMF-hosted wikis. You can join the discussion about this tool for the English Wikipedia is at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Enabling the New Topic Tool by default. You will be able to turn it off in the tool or at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing-discussion.
The Editing team plans to change the appearance of talk pages. These are separate from the changes made by the mw:Desktop improvements project and will appear in both Vector 2010 and Vector 2022. The goal is to add some information and make discussions look visibly different from encyclopedia articles. You can see some ideas at Wikipedia talk:Talk pages project#Prototype Ready for Feedback.
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Books & Bytes – Issue 50
Books & Bytes
Issue 50, March – April 2022
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Feedback request: Media, the arts, and architecture request for comment
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Category:Individual male horses has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 06:59, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
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Just stopping by to say hi
- Thankee. It's getting hot around here, too. I have a big fan on. :-) — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 22:14, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
- Hey Saint McCandlish, here's some chocolate sprinkles to put on that! North America1000 17:00, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
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June 2022
I've noticed that you are one of the participants on the Wikiprojects page for Popular culture. I've made a nomination for the popular culture music group BTS for featured article. Any interest in participating and maybe making some comments? ErnestKrause (talk) 15:48, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
- That ship was already sinking by the time I looked at it. The comments so far are good and should serve as a guide for getting it into FA shape. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 20:02, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
- Looks like a turn around... could you take a look if you see its now moving in a good direction? ErnestKrause (talk) 23:52, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
- It's already got multiple reviewers and multiple people implementing the reviewer suggestions. Seems well in-hand already. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 21:06, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
- Looks like a turn around... could you take a look if you see its now moving in a good direction? ErnestKrause (talk) 23:52, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
June songs
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Thank you for improving articles in June! My song collection is especially rich, look, and the hall where I first heard DFD, Pierre Boulez and Murray Perahia. Do you find the baby deer in the meadow (last row)? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:09, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
An RfC about PBS's status as a TV network...
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Because of your involvement in the RfC about PBS's status, not just as a US TV network, but as a major US TV network, I am inviting you to participate in a Request for comment about the status of the Public Broadcasting Service (PBS) as a TV network. 2600:1700:C960:2270:79B0:F220:B8D8:7E65 (talk) 22:21, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
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Hi, just notifying you of this ANI thread connected to a discussion on the MoS talkpage. Boynamedsue (talk) 17:13, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
New Page Patrol newsletter June 2022
Hello SMcCandlish,
- Backlog status
At the time of the last newsletter (No.27, May 2022), the backlog was approaching 16,000, having shot up rapidly from 6,000 over the prior two months. The attention the newsletter brought to the backlog sparked a flurry of activity. There was new discussion on process improvements, efforts to invite new editors to participate in NPP increased and more editors requested the NPP user right so they could help, and most importantly, the number of reviews picked up and the backlog decreased, dipping below 14,000[a] at the end of May.
Since then, the news has not been so good. The backlog is basically flat, hovering around 14,200. I wish I could report the number of reviews done and the number of new articles added to the queue. But the available statistics we have are woefully inadequate. The only real number we have is the net queue size.[b]
In the last 30 days, the top 100 reviewers have all made more than 16 patrols (up from 8 last month), and about 70 have averaged one review a day (up from 50 last month).
While there are more people doing more reviews, many of the ~730 with the NPP right are doing little. Most of the reviews are being done by the top 50 or 100 reviewers. They need your help. We appreciate every review done, but please aim to do one a day (on average, or 30 a month).
- Backlog drive
A backlog reduction drive, coordinated by buidhe and Zippybonzo, will be held from July 1 to July 31. Sign up here. Barnstars will be awarded.
- TIP – New school articles
Many new articles on schools are being created by new users in developing and/or non-English-speaking countries. The authors are probably not even aware of Wikipedia's projects and policy pages. WP:WPSCH/AG has some excellent advice and resources specifically written for these users. Reviewers could consider providing such first-time article creators with a link to it while also mentioning that not all schools pass the GNG and that elementary schools are almost certainly not notable.
- Misc
There is a new template available, {{NPP backlog}}
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Oath Keepers RfC
I know the discussion thread is very long, but the term "conservative" is at issue, not whether they are far-right, extreme right, or the other terms widely used both in sources and the article. The issue is whether "conservative", which relates to the Reagan-Scalia-Romney-Cheney legacy, should be applied to a group that is described in sources as violent right wing extremists. I wonder from your !vote whether that was clear from the talk page TLDR discussion? In a nutshell, there is no way to SOFIXIT because sources don't call them conservative, except for one or two that predate their recent overtly extremist posture. Thanks for participating. SPECIFICO talk 17:19, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) @SPECIFICO: See right-wing, specifically, the synonyms:
conservative (particularly US, Canada, and UK)
. Words and their meanings can change over time, and in so far as the US is concerned, right-wing and conservative are interchangeable. You should also keep replies like this as part of the discussion on Talk:Oath Keepers. —Locke Cole • t • c 18:19, 25 June 2022 (UTC)- I concur with Locke Cole. If we have an article anywhere that defines American conservatism only in terms of a "Reagan-Scalia-Romney-Cheney legacy" then that article is bad wrong. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 23:12, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
- PS: It takes only seconds to find "Oath Keepers" and "conservative" together in innumerable sources [11][12][13]. I cannot believe they're all going to be cases of "conservative" applying to some other subject and "Oath Keepers" not being under the "conservative" umbrella. I think this argument is basically ridiculous, like trying to split hairs in American politics between "leftist" and "progressive". — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 23:18, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
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