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Split the page into seasons
I have begin to work in season drafts of the series. They still need improvements but I thinks that the show is very important with enough information to do so. But I don’t know very well the baseline is for splitting pages. Ulises1126 (talk) 6:30, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- Please see MOS:TVSPLIT before you think about proceeding. There would need to be 50 to 60 episodes before splitting to even a "list of episodes" page would be appropriate. So far there are only 16. Separate season articles require a higher bar, more like 70 to 80. —Joeyconnick (talk) 19:46, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
- Note that article splits Draft:The Boys (season 1), Draft:The Boys (season 2) and Draft:The Boys (season 3) where submitted to AfC and declined as consensus should be gained first. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 13:55, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
Hi guys. I thinks it's time to talk about the independent seasons articles of the series. Ulises1126 (talk) 07:01, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
- Given the quality of the drafts, I would approve of them being moved to the mainspace, and the parent article being updated accordingly. -- Alex_21 TALK 23:23, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
- It's not about quality: it's about whether there is enough content to meet WP:SPLIT and MOS:TVSPLIT, which there is not. —Joeyconnick (talk) 01:15, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
- While I agree that the article does not have enough content to warrant splits yet, I would say the drafts are still worth editing. After all, notability is based on the existence of suitable sources, not on the state of sourcing in an article. — Painting17 (talk) 15:08, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
- It's not about quality: it's about whether there is enough content to meet WP:SPLIT and MOS:TVSPLIT, which there is not. —Joeyconnick (talk) 01:15, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
I'm gonna start to improve the drafts then. Ulises1126 (talk) 04:21, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
The draft articles have been improved considerably. The drafts have deep information about each one of the seasons about every section including the development, writing and everything. The season drafts includes information that is not included in the series main article to give you the potential that these articles can get. The season 3 will have more content but it will be as the season progress. Just check the drafts and see it by yourself but I really hope it's enough to make this true: Draft:The Boys (season 1), Draft:The Boys (season 2) and Draft:The Boys (season 3). The drafts have already been submitted to be checked, so I just hope we can get into an agreement about this. Ulises1126 (talk) 04:43, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
Article episodes
Hi besides of the season articles, I would like to begin with episodes articles. I think it's time to give the series it's own episode articles. I'm gonna try to go deeper to improve the season articles, but I would go deeper for the article episodes. I would also like to start with episodes articles from other Prime Video series. I think it would be easier than Netflix shows considering that the episodes are released weekly. Just hope we can come to an agreement and I would start to create the articles immediately.Ulises1126 (talk) 07:06, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
- Episode articles most definitely fail WP:GNG, please see WP:NTVEP. — YoungForever(talk) 09:19, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
Requested move 17 January 2022
- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Extraordinary Writ (talk) 18:19, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
The Boys (2019 TV series) → The Boys (TV series) – WP:INCDAB states that In individual cases consensus may determine that a parenthetically disambiguated title that is still ambiguous has a primary topic, but the threshold for identifying a primary topic for such titles is higher than for a title without parenthetical disambiguation.
I believe that this threshold is in this case easily met. The 2019 series is a critically acclaimed hit series, whereas The Boys (1993 TV series) is an obscure sitcom cancelled after 5 episodes which had no lasting cultural impact; sufficiently obscure that one of the first results when searching for it is a website called TV Obscurities. Yes, the 2019 series is ongoing so there is certainly some recency bias, but pageviews show that even at its lowest offseason pageviews dip it dominates with roughly a 1000:1 ratio. There is no chance that the 1993 series could ever come close to the 2019 series' popularity or significance, even long after the latter series ends. Lennart97 (talk) 12:48, 17 January 2022 (UTC) Lennart97 (talk) 12:48, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support per nom. The example given at the linked WP:INCDAB for a show is
The Office (American TV series) (NBC sitcom from 2005 to 2013) – also The Office (1995 TV series) (see also WP:TWODABS; 60:1 pageview ratio)
, which shows a very similar graph. --Cerebral726 (talk) 14:17, 17 January 2022 (UTC)- Thanks for citing that example; these cases seem to be very similar. For those interested, Talk:The Office (American TV series)/Archive 5 shows two separate discussions reaching consensus in favour of partial disambiguation for that article. Lennart97 (talk) 14:28, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support A very sound argument, can’t really fight it. Now if My Boys was The Boys I might have put up something, but obviously it’s not--CreecregofLife (talk) 17:10, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support per nom. The difference really is overwhelming enough to qualify for the base title. SnowFire (talk) 20:52, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support - Nobody even really knows of any other The Boys show than this one. Saimcheeda (talk) 00:00, 23 January 2022 (UTC)