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Name changes
If anyone wants to move this article - please go through the proper procedure at Wikipedia:Requested moves. Where it will fail, because Alsace wine is universally the WP:COMMONNAME of wine from this area, even if technically it "should" be Alsatian wine. FlagSteward (talk) 17:57, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
- Well, in the US, Alsatian wine is more common but Alsace wine is sometimes heard. I have no problem with the article staying at Alsace wine since it is more consistent with the other French wine articles like Bordeaux wine, Burgundy wine, etc. AgneCheese/Wine 05:48, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
- "Two countries separated by a common language"? :-) I just noticed that in his recent Alsace article in US publication The Wine Advocate, David Schildknecht uses the term "Alsace wine". Tomas e (talk) 11:52, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah it is not unheard of to see Alsace wine, it is just more common (especially in conversation) to hear people talk of Alsatian wine, Alsatian Riesling, Alsatian Pinot gris, etc. Some wine shops will even have their section labeled as "Alsatian wine", others (like mine) will be simply labeled "Alsace" with no wine-suffix. Again, I have no problem with Alsace wine because of the general consistency with regional French article. I just wanted to note that WP:COMMONNAME doesn't really have a clear cut usage in this regard. AgneCheese/Wine 16:14, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
Also, shouldn't we spell Gewurztraminer without the umlaut above the u? This is the accepted French spelling and as we're talking about French wine, it makes sense.82.68.32.94 (talk) 09:00, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
Elsasser?
In Steppenwolf, the protagonist drinks "Elsasser," which appears (based on jumping to the German Wikipedia) to refer to Alsace wine. Can anyone confirm this? Wakablogger2 (talk) 23:55, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
- Alsace is Elsaß in German, and Alsace wine is Elsäßer Wein, which indeed colloquially can be written "Elsäßer" = Elsässer = Elsaesser or Elsasser to the diacritically challenged :-). I see that Steppenwolf was written in 1927 and is set in the 1920s. In this era, Alsace was not at all as focussed on "noble" grape varieties and quality wines as the region has been for the last couple of decades, so most Alsace wine would have been of rather simple quality, but still probably a food-friendly if a little robust dry white wine. It was probably less elegant in style, and cheaper, than better versions of domestic German wines such as Mosel wine and Rheingau wine, which in this era was in something of their heyday. Tomas e (talk) 17:38, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
- Thank you for that German trace. Essentially that's what it looked like to me using the German Wikipedia, but I don't read German. I will get the book and the page for a citation and then add in a redirect and a short explanation for anyone else (like me) searching for the term. The book was written in 1927, so the occurrence of this term might be due to it being an older translation. Wakablogger2 (talk) 07:01, 24 November 2009 (UTC)