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Emelia Jackson
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Fails WP:BIO basics, mostly a WP:BIO1E person only known for being a winner of a reality show, which generally fails GNG guidelines. Suggest redirect to MasterChef Australia (series 12) instead. SanAnMan (talk) 21:55, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
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Larissa Takchi
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Fails WP:BIO basics, mostly a WP:BIO1E person only known for being a winner of a reality show, which generally fails GNG guidelines. Suggest redirect to MasterChef Australia (series 11) instead. SanAnMan (talk) 21:53, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
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Diana Chan
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Fails WP:BIO basics, mostly a WP:BIO1E person only known for being a winner of a reality show, which generally fails GNG guidelines. Suggest redirect to MasterChef Australia (series 9) instead. SanAnMan (talk) 21:48, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
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Billie McKay
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Fails WP:BIO basics, mostly a WP:BIO1E person only known for being a winner of a reality show, which generally fails GNG guidelines. Suggest redirect to MasterChef Australia (series 7) instead. SanAnMan (talk) 21:45, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
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Chanile Butterfield
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Fails WP:GNG and lacks WP:SIGCOV. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 20:10, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Draftify.--MonFrontieres (talk) 20:11, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
Kate Bracks
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Fails WP:BIO basics, mostly a WP:BIO1E person only known for being a winner of a reality show, which generally fails GNG guidelines. Suggest redirect to MasterChef Australia (series 3) instead. SanAnMan (talk) 18:52, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Keep per WP:ANYBIO #1 as a national Masterchef winner. Also passes WP:GNG as already demonstrated in the article. StAnselm (talk) 18:55, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
- Comment Winning a reality show is far from "a well-known and significant award or honor". - SanAnMan (talk) 19:03, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
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Ann-Karin Müller
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WP:NBIO huge problems; little reliable sources or general notability of the person. Morpho achilles (talk) 15:55, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Delete. Not notable. Bookworm857158367 (talk) 16:57, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
- Comment: The name is wrong. Ann-Katrin Müller (note the t in Katrin) is the editor for Der Spiegel. https://www.spiegel.de/impressum/autor-67c446b9-0001-0003-0000-000000018273. Vexations (talk) 20:37, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
Cathy Adengo
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This is a cv of a non-notable businessperson. "Head of Sustainability" is not a major position. The references are not truly independent, (Ref 1 is a promotional cv, r. 2 is just social media, r.3 is no longer in existence, and r. 4 is a press release. There is no reason to think there would be any better, for the subject is "Not Yet Notable".
- I shall be looking at other articles from this long-term contributor. Idon;t think its coi, but just poor judgement. DGG ( talk ) 04:57, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
- Strong Delete Some lady doing her job. Is it the same chancer hoping to get an article on his/her paid contacts. That is beyond belief, how poorly notable that article is. Some random person. scope_creepTalk 07:19, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
- I thought might be drive by editor, some kind of chancer like that, but its not. The editor has 178k edits. I'm just wondering if they are burnt out a bit, went off the beam. I know the feeling. scope_creepTalk 07:29, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
- Delete Wikipedia is not LinkedIn. Mccapra (talk) 14:54, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
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Catherine Kitandwe
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non-notable aviator. The first women to be a flight instructor is a given country might be reason for an article, but she's just the third. the refs are PR. Even the infobox gives as "known for:, merely "professional competence". This is not an encyclopedic subject, and it is not encyclopedic writing DGG ( talk ) 05:00, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
- Delete I think it is some chancer who is looking for an article on evidence that is most tenuous I've seen. Non-notable. scope_creepTalk 07:16, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Weak delete She seems to be one of a few females in her field in Uganda, almost notable. Xinhua is debatable as a reliable source, but I feel it's not much of a propagandistic element for the Central Chinese Gov't to cover a pilot in Uganda. With better sourcing, could be kept. Unable to find any at this time, a deep dive perhaps later might turn up more. Oaktree b (talk) 14:03, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
Michaela Metallidou
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Not a notable player Emery Cool21 (talk) 00:44, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Delete as she was not a medalist, meaning she isn't notable. versacespaceleave a message! 21:28, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- Not winning a medal doesn't mean someone is non-notable. BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:16, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- what i meant was that she (likely) doesn't meet WP:GYMNAST as she didn't win a medal. In fact she was eliminated in the qualifiers, which imv strengthens my rationale. it's very unlikely for there to be coverage on a non-qualifier. versacespaceleave a message! 17:44, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
- Not winning a medal doesn't mean someone is non-notable. BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:16, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- Comment, there seems to be a lot of matches on google with the Greek spelling of her name (Μιχαέλα Μεταλλίδου), but I don't speak that language so I can't tell if its significant enough. BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:16, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- Delete No effective refencing.Unable to verify WP:V or WP:SIGCOV. scope_creepTalk 07:21, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
Trady
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Reviewed during new page patrol. No indication of notability under GNG or SNG. The small amount of prose in the article is not what it appears in places. It says " She released her single titled "Dare to Live" as Promotional Song for 2021 Summer World University Games." and linked to Dare to live and referenced and reference the promo album. However the song at the link was the original which hers was only a cover of, and she is not even mentioned at that article. Also she is not even mentioned at that album reference. The award she won was "Music Pioneer Awards" is flagged for notability and is one issued by a single radio station. Nothing even approaching a GNG type source. There is no material on her on album and the reference for it is a link to Spotify. Tagged by others for notability since April. North8000 (talk) 22:13, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Weak Delete The Chinese wiki article is about as long as this one and appears to have a track listing. Try as I might, I find no English sources for the singer. Delete unless other sources are found. Oaktree b (talk) 02:38, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- Delete Looks like a UPE article. No streaming evidence, no social media coverage. Nothing comes on cse or before search on web. Fails WP:NSINGER, WP:SIGCOV. scope_creepTalk 07:24, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
- Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources. Wikipedia:Notability (people)#Basic criteria says:
People are presumed notable if they have received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject.
- If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability; trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources is not usually sufficient to establish notability.
Sources
- Hu, Minjuan 胡敏娟 (2021-11-12). "和金牌制作人崔迪一起,从成都大运会创造"生命奇迹"" [Create a "miracle of life" from the Chengdu Universiade with gold medal producer Cui Di]. 红星新闻 (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 2022-06-20. Retrieved 2022-06-20 – via Sohu.
The article notes from Google Translate: "This rhythm is bright and warm, full of vigor and vitality of the song, from the global Chinese song annual golden song producer Cui Di hand. ... In Cui Di's creative career, it is one of her few experiences to create with sports as an element, and it is her "first time" to create for an international sports event such as the Chengdu Universiade. ... In her spare time, Cui Di, who likes sports, also invites three or five friends to exercise together. While exercising, music also accompanies her. Tweedy believes that the relationship between music and sports has never been separated, and the two are a whole that promotes and promotes each other. ... International expression and Chinese culture and power are the two parts that Cui Di wanted to express in the process of creating "Dare to Live"."
- Robert 罗伯特 (2022-01-17). "崔迪首获唱工委奖项提名,揭秘金牌唱作女声首专幕后" [Cui Di was nominated for the Singing Work Committee Award, revealing the behind-the-scenes of the gold medal singing female vocal debut]. Toutiao (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 2022-06-20. Retrieved 2022-06-20 – via 吉祥日历.
The article notes from Google Translate: "Bel Rumore's female vocalist Cui Di was nominated for the "Best Electronic Music Album" award with her first solo album "TRADY 1.0". Following her nomination for the "Best Mandarin Female Newcomer Award" at the 13th Chinese Golden Melody Awards, she received another affirmation from the awards. ... Before appearing as a singer-songwriter, Cui Di won the reputation of "Gold Medal Female Producer" by creating many popular hits for singers such as Zhang Liangying, Han Geng, Yao Beina, Yu Kewei and so on. She has always dreamed of being a singer. Before the release of her first solo album "TRADY 1.0", she was invited to record Zhou Huajian's music album "Water Margin Trilogy", and also wrote for the animated film "Sidu" with the theme of the Revolutionary War. Chishui sang the theme song "Summoning". Her splendid performances in many musical works made her colleagues in the music circle sigh with emotion that Cui Di is not only a professional songwriter and music producer, but also a composer, arranger, performer and singer. , Production as one of the all-round female singer-songwriter. In 2018, with the encouragement of her musician husband Wan Jiaming, Cui Di began the preparations for this music album."
- "崔迪个人首张唱作专辑《TRADY 1.0》 先行曲《挣脱》全球同步发行" [Trady's first solo album "TRADY 1.0", the prelude song "Break Free", was released simultaneously worldwide]. 南方娱乐网 (in Chinese). 2020-01-06. Archived from the original on 2022-06-20. Retrieved 2022-06-20.
The article notes from Google Translate: "At 0:00 on January 6, 2020, at the beginning of the past year, music producer Trady (TRADY)'s first solo album "TRADY 1.0", the prelude song "Break Free", was released simultaneously at home and abroad. ... The song incorporates a large number of modern retro synth sounds, and the Synthwave synth wave is strong and impactful, giving people a sense of power from the inside out. The rhythm of the whole song is dominated by the use of Roland drum machines and bass bass synthesizers, and the solid bass interprets a firm strength and confidence to break free from the injustice of fate."
- Qian, Hong 钱虹 (2020-07-30). "音乐制作人崔迪首张专辑《TRADY 1.0》正式上线" [Music producer Trady's debut album "TRADY 1.0" officially launched]. 中国娱乐时报 (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 2022-06-20. Retrieved 2022-06-20.
The article notes: "Music producer Cui Di, the first official album "TRADY 1.0" released as a singer, was released online at 0:00 on July 30, 2020. This is an album that has been carefully produced for two and a half years, and is personally written by Tweedy's husband, Wan Wan ..."
- "崔迪联手三大音乐人共同创作音乐先锋厂牌" [Cui Di teamed up with three major musicians to create a music pioneer label] (in Chinese). Sina Corporation. 2011-01-26. Archived from the original on 2022-06-20. Retrieved 2022-06-20.
The article notes: "Cui Di has produced many artist albums, including Han Geng's "Umbrella", Zhang Jingying's "Light" and many other excellent works. She and her friends Wan Jiaming, Li Zhiwei and Wang Zitong jointly established the cutting-edge music label "Making Sound". Cui Di also hopes to create a new music production label in the mainland to make a little contribution to the original music in the mainland, and also hopes that his works can be loved by more people."
- "制作人崔迪携陈楚生尚雯婕大玩韩流风(图)" [Producer Cui Di and Chen Chusheng and Shang Wenjie play Hallyu (Photo)] (in Chinese). Sina Corporation. 2010-08-16. Archived from the original on 2022-06-20. Retrieved 2022-06-20.
The article notes from Google Translate: "The albums that Cui Di has collaborated with and produced by domestic gold medal female producers include Han Geng's 2010 album "Geng. "Heart" title song "Umbrella" Producer:"
- Comment: I added these sources to the article and expanded the article. Cunard (talk) 09:04, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
- Keep: Just based on the awards it meets WP:MUSICBIO, but also Cunard has added more citations that would add to the notability. Zeddedm (talk) 09:13, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
Priya Anand (voice actress)
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The first two references provided here are passing mentions of the subject, not in-depth discussion of her, and the other two references are 1) to another Wikipedia article, and 2.) to Youtube, neither of which establishes notability. Does not qualify as notable per any subject-specific guideline, has not won any national or international awards for her work. A loose necktie (talk) 21:24, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
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Aparna Rajeev
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Fails WP:SINGER. The singer has released around 20 songs in their 16-year career. Most references are focused on poet ONV Kurup, the subject's grandfather.
- Delete - The subject doesn't meet the notability criteria as per WP:SINGER. Slowvansz (talk) 16:16, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Delete Lacks independent coverage for GNG. Aoyoigian (talk) 05:31, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- Keep Contributions seems not negligible and her awards are considerable Onmyway22 talk 09:28, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
Chandni Wattley
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Fails WP:GNG and lacks WP:SIGCOV. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 15:16, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Drafity.--MonFrontieres (talk) 17:53, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
- Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me. GiantSnowman 08:14, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
Kara Lewis
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Fails WP:GNG and lacks WP:SIGCOV. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 15:14, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me. GiantSnowman 08:14, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
Támar
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She appears to have worked with notable artists, but that alone is not enough to warrant her own article; and redirecting her article to either Prince (musician) or Destiny's Child (of which she was apparently an early member of) seems like a stretch. Speaking of the latter point, that information (as well as virtually all of the historical sections of the article) is unsourced and was added by IPs. (Speaking of that, I didn't notify anyone on a talk page because it doesn't appear that there are any regular editors for the article.) Erpert blah, blah, blah... 12:37, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Keep. Grammy nominee with coverage in independent reliable sources. What more do you want? duffbeerforme (talk) 07:21, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
- If you're referring to "Beautiful, Loved and Blessed", that technically isn't her song; it's Prince featuring her. Erpert blah, blah, blah... 13:47, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
- Weak Keep - As noted above she is not "Grammy nominated" because she was only a guest on someone else's nominated song, but she describes herself as such at every opportunity. She has performed professionally under at least four different names: Ashley Tamar, Ashley Tamar Davis, Tamar Davis, and simply Tamar, which probably has not helped her career. She also regularly exaggerates herself as an early member of Destiny's Child (false, she was in their predecessor group) and "protege" of Prince (false, she was a guest singer on that one song). Alas, after decades of self-aggrandizement and occasional achievements she has attracted a little in-depth media notice, including the two sources already in the article, plus these and a few others: [3], [4], [5]. Per WP policy on minor celebrities there seems to be enough to not delete the article, which is not exactly a ringing endorsement but we might be stuck with it. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 16:48, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
Sanne Wohlenberg
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This article was created in 2012 with the edit summary saying: Page created - source IMDB
. No sources have been added since in those ten years. Even if sourcing was added for the very little current info, they still seems unnotable by Wikipedia's standards for WP:BLP. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 00:21, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
- Comment First hit is someone with the same name in Variety, that worked on Chernobyl and Vikings. Might be notable, I'd have to really look to confirm. Oaktree b (talk) 02:28, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Comment I have added citations to indicate her role in producing a mini-series, upcoming TV show, and Dr. Who episodes. Since the article is no longer solely sourced to IMDB, I removed that notice. DaffodilOcean (talk) 12:53, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
- Comment The subject meets the notability criteria by virtue of her producership of Doctor Who. Even if she had done no other work in television and film, this would be sufficient. Note there is an article for this specific job: List_of_Doctor_Who_producers DavidFarmbrough (talk) 15:15, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
- Notability is determined by sourcing and coverage by reliable sources not by actual credits. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 17:40, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
Tomiko Yoshikawa
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According to the stats never won anything. Notability tenuous at best. Fails WP:NSPORTS and WP:BIO. scope_creepTalk 13:10, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
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- While I can't find much, I did find this article in a potentially reliable source [6] which could count as substantial coverage, but more importantly in mentions an article in Chunichi Shimbun about the subject which I believe is citation number 2 in the article (found at [7]), and also provides substantial coverage. It seems her being a female racing driver at that time, even without much success, made her at least stand out, and potentially there would be much more coverage, in particular in Japanese print magazines and newspapers from the time (the one I've mentioned above is from 2005). So for now I think weak keep. A7V2 (talk) 07:55, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
- Weak keep - I agree with A7V2. This really needs someone who can read Japanese to go over sourcing, but the sources that are already in the article seem to indicate that the subject likely passes the WP:GNG. HumanBodyPiloter5 (talk) 08:19, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
- Comment It is most mediocre article as the women, hasn't won one race. scope_creepTalk 09:48, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
- Keep in 1991 she was on the first all-female team at LeMans, and this was covered in USA Today and other media (now in article). This also resulted in coverage in a sports psychology textbook. While USA Today did not do an extended story on her, as noted above, citation #2 appears to be extended coverage. DaffodilOcean (talk) 12:37, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
- Keep In addition to the coverage given above, I also found some coverage in a Japanese magazine (Diet library has the title for this piece). Seems she is notable for the first Japanese women to participate in the races she raced in & there is enough for WP:BASIC. Jumpytoo Talk 19:25, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
Chityala Suhasini Reddy
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Fails WP:NPOL and the GNG. Party officials and unsuccessful candidates aren't presumed notable under NPOL or any other guideline, and the sources cited in the article, which merely quote Reddy or mention her in passing, don't provide significant coverage, in my view. My WP:BEFORE search in both English and Telugu didn't find any sigcov either, so Reddy does not appear to be notable at this time. (NPP action) Extraordinary Writ (talk) 06:24, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Delete: per nom. Doesn't meet NPOL or GNG yet. -- Ab207 (talk) 09:25, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
- Delete unsuccessful candidate who is not otherwise notable. Mccapra (talk) 10:42, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
Jeanie Roland
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No credible claim to notability, just another of the thousands of contestants on cooking reality shows. valereee (talk) 17:18, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Mild Keep Not a ton of sources, but mostly from New England media, confirming/discussing her time on the Bobby Flay chef show. [8] or here: [9] and a few others, nothing substantial, but enough to pass notability. She's also published a few cookbooks. Oaktree b (talk) 19:18, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
Weak Keep The Day, the Providence Journal, and The Tampa Bay Times are all reliable, independent, secondary sources. Reference 2 in particular [10] provides significant coverage of the subject. I have removed the "Personal Life" section as being uncited and promo, but the rest of the article is fine.Trainsandotherthings (talk) 01:53, 18 June 2022 (UTC)- Delete as creation by a blocked or banned user evading their block. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 23:01, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- Speedy delete WP:G5. MarioGom (talk) 18:48, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- Comment Creator of this article and the others all blocked for socking by LTA. valereee (talk) 20:24, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- Speedy delete: criteria G5. ––FormalDude talk 23:20, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- Strong Delete Sock UPE creation. G5 scope_creepTalk 05:46, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
- Speedy delete as G5. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 17:02, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
- Speedy delete G5. BubbaJoe123456 (talk) 21:52, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
Venus Faiq
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Refs are profiles. Fails WP:SIGCOV. Potentially notable. scope_creepTalk 14:44, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
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Harriet Hageman
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WP:BLP of a person notable only as an as yet non-winning candidate in a political party primary. As always, candidates do not get Wikipedia articles just for being candidates per se (even candidates on the general election ballot don't get articles for that, let alone primary candidates) -- the notability test at WP:NPOL is holding a notable political office, not just running for one, while a candidate must demonstrate either preexisting notability for other reasons that would already have gotten her an article anyway (the Cynthia Nixon test), or a credible reason why her candidacy should be seen as so much more special than everybody else's candidacies that even if she loses the election she would still pass the ten year test for enduring significance anyway (the Christine O'Donnell test). But this demonstrates neither of those things.
Obviously no prejudice against recreation in November if she wins the general election, but just running in a party primary is not sufficient grounds for a Wikipedia article at all. Bearcat (talk) 12:18, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
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Delete Per nom., no prejudice against re-creation if she wins the general election, but the subject presently fails WP:NPOL and WP:GNG.Sal2100 (talk) 16:59, 17 June 2022 (UTC)- Redirect to 2022 United States House of Representatives election in Wyoming, per Curbon7's comments below. Per nom., no prejudice against re-creation if/when she wins the general election. Sal2100 (talk) 17:43, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
- Restore redirect: I think having this go to AfD was pointless as you could've just reverted the IP lol. Either way, as Hageman is practically guaranteed to win at this point, just restore the redirect until she actually wins the primary. This maintains the page history and makes it easy to have an already written version that can quickly be retrieved. Curbon7 (talk) 21:17, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
- Redirect >2022 United States House of Representatives election in Wyoming. Djflem (talk) 06:26, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
- Redirect per Curbon7. —Carter (Tcr25) (talk) 10:52, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
- Redirect as WP:ATD. Is perhaps WP:TOOSOON. -Kj cheetham (talk) 16:25, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
- Restore redirect to 2022 United States House of Representatives election in Wyoming. She is very likely going to win the Republican primary in August, so for now we can just restore the redirect, instead of deleting. LefcentrerightDiscuss 17:31, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
Caroline Cherotich
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No evidence found of any notability, nothing in GNews and very little in Google in general, and sources in article are one source not about her but about the company, one source that doesn't seem to work, and one not independent source. Fram (talk) 08:01, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Delete no sources found, one mention of an AK-47 going off. Assume un-related. Oaktree b (talk) 11:58, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
- Delete. As per the nom, this fails WP:GNG --Rabbiweiner (talk) 14:45, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
Warina Hussain
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Warina Hussain
Actress with one major role, who therefore does not meet acting notability guidelines. This title has been cut down to a redirect to Loveyatri, her major role, and expanded to an article several times, most recently by a sockpuppet. A review of the references shows that she also does not satisfy general notability, because they are mostly puff pieces promoting her.
Reference Number | Reference | Comments | Independent | Significant | Reliable | Secondary |
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1 | news18.com | Wishing Happy Birthday to subject, but deleted as 404 | ? | No | No | No |
2 | anandabazar.com | A promotional interview | No | Yes | N/A | No |
3 | indianexpress.com | Announcement about the subject | No | Yes | Probably | No |
4 | TimesofIndia.com | A puff piece about a video, promoting her | No | Yes | No | No |
5 | siasat.com | Announcement that she will make a Tollywood debut | No | Yes | Probably | No |
6 | koimoi.com | A puff piece about an upcoming film | No | Yes | Probably | No |
7 | zeenews.india.com | Another puff piece about another upcoming film | No | Yes | Probably | No |
8 | ndtv.com | Pre-announcement of her major 2018 film | Yes | Yes | Yes | No |
As an Alternative to Deletion, the article should be cut down to a redirect to Loveyatri again, and the redirect should be given extended-confirmed protection so that a neutral editor can create an article when one of her films in progress is released. Until then, the title should be redirected. (Cutting the article down to a redirect by normal editing would only result in edit-warring.) Robert McClenon (talk) 20:59, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Redirect as per nom. Not enough in-depth coverage to meet GNG. And then salt. Onel5969 TT me 21:54, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
- Delete and redirect First the entire history of this article needs to be deleted. It encourages drive-by editors to restore it. It can be then redirected to Loveyatri after the history is deleted. Captain Jack Sparrow (talk) 08:10, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
- redirect and 500/30 protect: as explained by nominator, the subject fails general notability guideline because of lack of significant coverage. Notability guideline for actors requires multiple significant roles in released films or TV shows, the subject fails this as well. Given the log history of this page, the newly created redirect should be extended-confirmed protected. —usernamekiran (talk) 09:52, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
Nairisha
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No reliable sources in the article, BLP prod objected with no reliable sources (restored and removed again). Search returned no reliable English language sources, non English sources may exist but seems unlikely. WP:NACTOR does not seem to apply in this situation. Analysis of sources currently in article being 1, 2, 4-9, 14, 15, 21. appears to be user generated. 3, 10, 17-20 does not seem reliable. Rest seems to be primary or has an COI with the subject. Justiyaya 09:51, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Delete per nom. Osarius 10:32, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. Non-notable. --Baggaet (talk) 12:39, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
Ann Hamilton (American actress)
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Lacks notability; soap opera roles were brief guest appearances only. Bgsu98 (talk) 22:37, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Comment I found a lengthy article in the New York Times on Annie Hamilton [11], not the same person, in case anyone wants to follow up there. DaffodilOcean (talk) 09:55, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
Grace Chinga
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Non-notable musician, fail of WP:GNG/WP:NMUSICIAN nearlyevil665 12:00, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Delete does not pass WP:MUSIC and the article uses puffy language. Oaktree b (talk) 15:58, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
Batya Ungar-Sargon
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Fails WP:GNG; WP:AUTHOR. Journalism career unremarkable, writing for a number of titles doesn't make you notable. Book 'Bad News' has a limited number reviews by book review websites but no major media. Sourcing problematic (The Daily Beast is a contribution from her etc etc) - including her dissertation, for some reason. Alexandermcnabb (talk) 12:17, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Delete we lack any truly indepedent sources giving coverage of this person.John Pack Lambert (talk) 12:42, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
Victoire of France (1556)
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No idea why we would have a separate article for a child who died less than 2 months old. Should be a redirect to either of the parents. Fram (talk) 07:25, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Delete per nom. Athel cb (talk) 09:05, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- Delete could be a small subsection in the article about the king. Oaktree b (talk) 12:12, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- Delete Wikipedia is not a royal biographical dictionary. We do not have articles just to fill in complete family trees. I suspect we have a lot more similar articles that need to go.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:17, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Merge and redirect to Catherine_de'_Medici#Issue, because the information about her birth seems worth including there. PamD 07:45, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
- Agreed Unlimitedlead (talk) 12:07, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
- Merge and redirect to Catherine_de'_Medici#Issue, per PamD. 𝕱𝖎𝖈𝖆𝖎𝖆 (talk) 11:08, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
- REdirect or merge as suggested by the last two contributors. An infant who lived less than two months is inevitably NN. Peterkingiron (talk)
- Delete Non-notable article about 2 months born child--Onetimememorial (talk) 18:13, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
Mony Marc
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Very little information about the subject appear to be available. Article fails WP:GNG and WP:MUSICBIO and the subject falls under WP:ONEEVENT. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 07:46, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Redirect to Eurovision Song Contest 1956. Nearly every search result using the "find sources" tool above is related to their Eurovision appearance. Appears to be a WP:ONEEVENT subject. Grk1011 (talk) 13:03, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- Redirect to Eurovision Song Contest 1956. Unless someone can find dedicated coverage of the singer in old hardcopy sources, there is nothing to be found about her except brief listings of her presence at the 1956 event. Does not pass WP:ONEEVENT. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 13:55, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
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Paule Desjardins
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Very little information about the subject appear to be available. Article fails WP:GNG and WP:MUSICBIO and the subject falls under WP:ONEEVENT. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 07:47, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Redirect to Eurovision Song Contest 1957. Nearly every search result using the "find sources" tool above is related to their Eurovision appearance, which is covered in greater detail in that article. The target also includes additional context. Appears to be a WP:ONEEVENT subject. Grk1011 (talk) 13:06, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- Redirect to Eurovision Song Contest 1957, in complete agreement with the nominator and previous voter. Unless someone can find dedicated coverage of the singer in old hardcopy sources, this does not pass the WP:ONEEVENT hurdle. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 13:53, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- Redirect as suggested. All I can find are videos of the performance and a record track list. She had a memorable second place finish apparently, but nothing else shows that. Even in French the sources are thin... Oaktree b (talk) 14:32, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
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Solange Berry
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Very little information about the subject appear to be available. Article fails WP:GNG and WP:MUSICBIO and the subject falls under WP:ONEEVENT. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 17:46, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Weak Delete all I find is this article, where they comment on notable performances [12]. I imagine there are more sources, I can't see any. French wiki article has Eurovision and what appears to be a blog as sources. not much help there either. Oaktree b (talk) 18:08, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
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Priyanka Meher
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Was deleted a couple of months ago: see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Priyanka Meher for details. Since then, has collaborated with others and has new references. But the new references only name-check her, nothing in-depth. Still fails notability even with the new information. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 02:15, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Delete The situation has not changed enough to change from not being notable enough for an article.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:10, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- Delete Agree, it's still not meeting notability standards. Oaktree b (talk) 13:36, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- Speedy delete - still falls under G4. No real developments in the last two-months.-KH-1 (talk) 06:02, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
Hamdi Mohamed
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This is a biography of someone most known for being elected as one of five commissioners of the Port of Seattle. That is a not a highly significant position, not a state-wide office, not the head of the commission. Sources in the article do cover her and the election, but all are routine local coverage that occurs for every local election. (There is a sentence in Bloomberg which is not local, but is about local candidates across the country running on climate change issues). Does not meet GNG. MB 03:09, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
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- delete nonnotable local politician Loew Galitz (talk) 03:28, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Delete. Seattle Port Commission is not a level of political office that confers an automatic free pass over WP:NPOL, and the article is sourced to the purely run of the mill level of local election campaign coverage that anybody running for any local political office anywhere can always show — but at this level of significance, a person would have to show a credible reason why she was of nationalized significance that exceeded the significance of other members of other local government committees, which has not been demonstrated at all. Bearcat (talk) 14:54, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
Kelsey Phelps Finch
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WP:NOTINHERITED, non-notable entrepreneur. Ari T. Benchaim (talk) 03:13, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
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- delete nonnotable. Loew Galitz (talk) 03:27, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Delete. I can see no notability here. --Bduke (talk) 08:40, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
Annociate Nshimirimana
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This Burundian footballer article fails WP:GNG, as the subject is completely lacking in WP:SIGCOV from independent WP:RS. WP:NFOOTY no longer exists. My WP:BEFORE is showing only WP:ROUTINE soccer match coverage of Nshimirimana (and not to be confused with a government official who shares the name). No hits from Burundi's sole private national newspaper, Iwacu. No hits from the government newspaper Le Renouveau. No hits from Jimbere Magazine, a Burundian magazine which focuses on women's issues. The only source provided in the article is a database entry, which doesn't count towards notability per WP:SPORTCRIT. Indy beetle (talk) 17:02, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Delete - no evidence of notability. GiantSnowman 18:34, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
Kelli Stavast
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It is now almost 8 months since the first nomination and while there have been a few additional passing mentions in association with "Let's Go Brandon," there is a total lack of additional WP:SIGCOV. The sources which exist do not meet the GNG as they are either not independent of the subject (either from being press releases by an employer or being interviews) or are passing mentions related to the meme. What exists may warrant a redirect to NASCAR on NBC or possibly Let's Go Brandon (though I do not support the latter), but GNG is not met therefore an article on this subject is inappropriate. Wikipedia is not a tabloid of "who said what?" or a database of NASCAR personnel. -"Ghost of Dan Gurney" 17:35, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Keep leaving aside the Let's Go Brandon stuff, I see significant coverage in Chapman News and Frontstretch Mujinga (talk) 17:52, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- Comment Chapman News is not independent - it is a university news outlet reporting on her (an alumni), with many quotes from her, e.g. "Part of the reason I chose Chapman over other schools...". The Frontstretch post is about pit reporting generally, with quotes from Stavast based on an interview, and the limited prose about her work does not appear independent, because it summarizes her descriptions of her work. Beccaynr (talk) 19:18, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- Keep per Mujinga. NASCARfan0548 ↗ 18:47, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- Keep Yup, she's still notable minus Brandon; no change in my previous rationale, and that's all I have to say. Nate • (chatter) 20:19, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- Speedy Keep for the same reasons found in the previous nomination, which was withdrawn after an overwhelming consensus to keep. Very little has changed since then. Stavast is notable even without the “LGB” misspeak, and there was and still is significant coverage making her a clear pass of WP:GNG Frank Anchor 22:32, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- "Which was withdrawn in order to give time for the meme nonsense to die down, after the first discussion closed with no consensus because of the aformentioned nonsense"** Fixed that for you. -"Ghost of Dan Gurney" 22:50, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- And it is clear that she is notable even without what you call “meme nonsense,” as was overwhelmingly demonstrated by the two prior AFDs. Frank Anchor 22:53, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- (EC) I agree that very little has changed; the sources still are not both independent or significant and this article should be deleted for that reason. -"Ghost of Dan Gurney" 22:54, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- Unfortunately almost 100% of the others in the
prior AFDssecond AFD did not see it the way you do and bring up several reliable sources that you (and only you) claim to be invalid. Frank Anchor 23:00, 14 June 2022 (UTC) (minor modification as I inadvertently misrepresented the first AFD Frank Anchor 01:49, 15 June 2022 (UTC))- Except that's not how the closer of the first AfD saw things. They clearly saw a significant number of delete !votes and likely also discounted the numerous SPAs and socks who popped up in that discussion. -"Ghost of Dan Gurney" 23:05, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- Unfortunately almost 100% of the others in the
- Delete - Per nominator; a clear case of someone who is only notable for WP:ONEEVENT and given that one event involves mishearing people shouting a profane political slogan there are broader WP:BLP concerns for me here about keeping this article online with the potential for defamatory vandalism or the like. HumanBodyPiloter5 (talk) 00:30, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- Keep. I don't see a real reason to delete this article. Arguing WP:BLP1E doesn't hold up, as this article was created 10 months prior to the LGB incident; additionally there is an entire article about her on Frontstretch that was published well before the incident. See WP:NOT1E#"One dominant event". Additionally, keep in mind that someone reaching this article through its main sources of linked traffic (Let's Go Brandon and Brandon Brown (racing driver)), likely would be doing so to find out more about Kelli's career as a reporter, which this article covers. ~XyNqtc 17:07, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
- I would say that the article was created in a good faith attempt to make a complete database on the NASCAR pit reporters, as can be evidenced in the first edit summary of the article (
"...Now, all the major/notable TV analysts for NASCAR have articles. Both of them were the only two that didn't have articles until today."
) and even Frontstretch, the only source which comes close to sniffing GNG acceptability, is still mostly based on an interview with the subject. -"Ghost of Dan Gurney" 19:00, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
- I would say that the article was created in a good faith attempt to make a complete database on the NASCAR pit reporters, as can be evidenced in the first edit summary of the article (
- Keep per comments above. Third pointless nomination of the same article in less than a year. She was already notable before and without the "Let's Go Brandon" incident. While it made her go viral worldwide for some time, associating all her fame with it is absurd. Her career as a reporter goes so much further than that and there is WP:SIGCOV to prove it. MSport1005 (talk) 18:33, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
- Anything significant is not independent and anything independent is not significant. The only source that comes close to being both is Frontstretch, so even if you want to count it, that's still only a single source. So how is this meeting GNG requirements? -"Ghost of Dan Gurney" 19:06, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
- Keep. I don't get why this article keeps getting pointlessly nominated for deletion, she's notable enough even without the "Let's Go Brandon" fiasco. Nascar9919 (talk) 19:03, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
- Comment - I just want to reply generally to anyone giving the argument of "It existed for 10 months before LBG" Okay? And? The sourcing, as can be seen in the history, was inadequate then, too and if I had come across the article sooner (really, 10 months is a very brief window), I would have nominated at that time as well. Literally the only additional references since the meme blew up have been passing mentions related to it. GNG was not met then, it's still not after LGB. I am not arguing BLP1E, but I am arguing that GNG has never been met for this person. -"Ghost of Dan Gurney" 15:31, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
- Ten months is not at all a brief window. Even if the article was created ten minutes before LGB became a thing, it invalidates any BLP1E argument. And there several sourced articles in the page dated well before September 2021 which the vast majority of editors in this AFD and the last AFD consider to be reliable and independent. Obviously longevity of an article alone is not a reason to keep an article, but it shows notability independent of the LGB event. Frank Anchor 01:16, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- Please stop using weasel words such as "vast majority" and "very small minority" as this is simply not true. -"Ghost of Dan Gurney" 01:35, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- I will most certainly not be doing so, because it is 100% true that a "vast majority" of contributors make some indication that there are reliable and independent sources. Between the 2nd nomination and this nomination, 12 of 15 users who made references to the sources either directly or indirectly via another user's rationale [e.g. "keep per User:X"] find the sources to be acceptable. That's 80%, which is certainly a vast majority. (nothing in this post is meant to suggest this AFD is a vote. I am simply pointing out where all of the participants have stood on this one issue). Frank Anchor 02:45, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- Please stop using weasel words such as "vast majority" and "very small minority" as this is simply not true. -"Ghost of Dan Gurney" 01:35, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- Ten months is not at all a brief window. Even if the article was created ten minutes before LGB became a thing, it invalidates any BLP1E argument. And there several sourced articles in the page dated well before September 2021 which the vast majority of editors in this AFD and the last AFD consider to be reliable and independent. Obviously longevity of an article alone is not a reason to keep an article, but it shows notability independent of the LGB event. Frank Anchor 01:16, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
Lavern Francis
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Fails WP:GNG and lacks WP:SIGCOV. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 22:21, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Delete this article does not meet GNG.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:01, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Delete - no evidence of notability. GiantSnowman 13:54, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
Craivecia Sutton
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Fails WP:GNG and lacks WP:SIGCOV. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 22:18, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Draftify.--MonFrontieres (talk) 23:41, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Delete - no evidence of notability. GiantSnowman 13:54, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- Draftify - young player who has just burst onto the international scene. Not notable yet but could plausibly be notable soon Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 19:05, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
Caroline Springer
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Fails WP:GNG and lacks WP:SIGCOV. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 22:15, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Delete Who does she play for? At what level does she play? Olympics? Friendly match in some dude's back yard? I find no sources on her. Oaktree b (talk) 23:00, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
- Delete the sourcing does not meet GNG. If a new soccer notability guideline is approved, it does not look likely she will meet the resulting guidelines, and that would still not overcome the GNG problem.John Pack Lambert (talk) 12:56, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Delete - no evidence of notability. GiantSnowman 13:54, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
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The result was keep. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 20:14, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
Heloísa Maranhão
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Fails WP:NOTABILITY; article fails to establish why she is notable – there are millions of writers and not every one merits a Wikipedia page. Just a single source listed on the page, and hardly any other mentions online Jkaharper (talk) 19:03, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Strong keep. A search of Google Scholar turns up dozens of scholarly works about Maranhão. Most of them are in Portuguese, which I can't read, but she's clearly an important Brazilian writer. pburka (talk) 20:28, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
- Keep per WP:AUTHOR#3, it appears she has a collection of works with multiple periodical articles analyzing her work. e.g. via GScholar: A trajetória de Rosa Maria Egipcíaca e o silenciamento cultural dos africanos no romance de Heloisa Maranhão Letrônica. jan-mar2020, Vol. 13 Issue 1, p1-11. 11p. (translation via WPLibrary: "The trajectory of Rosa Maria Egpcíaca and the cultural silencing of Africans in Heloisa Maranhão's novel."); "Tempo e Espaço no palco giratório do romance histórico de Heloísa Maranhão" interFACES (from the abstract: "In the historical fiction of Heloísa Maranhão (Lucrécia-1979, Dona Leonor Teles-1985 and A Rainha de Navarra-1986)..."; "O que é um lar? Revisão do conceito histórico de nação em Paradise (1997), de Toni Morrison, e em Rosa Maria Egipcíaca da Vera Cruz (1997), de Heloisa Maranhão" (a doctoral thesis; from the abstract: "The comparison between Toni Morrison's Paradise (1997) and Heloisa Maranhão's Rosa Maria Egipcíaca da Vera Cruz (1997) shows how these two novels create metaphorical images of home as a way of revising the official history of national formation."); later published; História e literatura: Rosa Maria Egipcíaca da Vera Cruz (re)escrita no romance histórico contemporâneo História e Cultura (abstract: "This article is inserted in the debate on the relations between History and Literature, departing from the critical reading of some fictional and historical elements permeating Rosa Maria Egipcíaca da Vera Cruz: the amazing story of a black princess between prostitution and sanctity, a contemporary historical novel by Heloisa Maranhão."); CORPO NEGRO: ENTRE A HISTÓRIA E A FICÇÃO. O CASO DE ROSA MARIA EGIPCÍACA DA VERA CRUZ, Em Tese; and per WP:AUTHOR#1, she appears to be widely-cited, e.g. LA BARCA DE LOS MARGINADOS NAVEGA HACIA UN PUERTO CENTRAL: LA NOVELA HISTÓRICA CONTEMPORÁNEAY LA BÚSQUEDA DE LA INTEGRACIÓN DE LOS EXCÉNTRICOS, Revista Iberoamericana; at 5 pages into a GScholar search there are still further results to review. Beccaynr (talk) 20:54, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
- Keep My Portuguese is minimal, but I did notice that she won the 1982 Prêmio APCA de Literatura. A google search in Portuguese yields many results that don't show up in an English langauge search. Vexations (talk) 22:38, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
- How does one "do a Google search in Portuguese"? Google is Google. If you hit in a person's name, articles of all languages appear (unless you're using a different alphabet e.g. Arabic). The results that come up for her on a standard Google search are minimal at best. Mostly just carbon copies of her Wiki page. --Jkaharper (talk) 12:15, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- Keep. There was another source, the Dictionary of Women Worldwide which the nom removed claiming it was not a RS. I don't understand the rationale for that, or for this nomination. I have reinstated the reference.Dsp13 (talk) 10:11, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- I deleted that. The url just linked to the front page of encyclopedia.com, so it looked like someone had made a source up. Jkaharper (talk) 10:20, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- The link works for me. In the future, I think it's important to disclose that you removed sources when you nominate pages for deletion. pburka (talk) 16:01, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- I deleted that. The url just linked to the front page of encyclopedia.com, so it looked like someone had made a source up. Jkaharper (talk) 10:20, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- Keep. Per WP: AUTHOR. Bookworm857158367 (talk) 19:10, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
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Farah Alhaddad
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All the awards and nominations are insignificant. There are paid and promotional sources in the article sucs as "hashtag-iq". Fails to Wikipedia:Notability (people). Also, This article has also been deleted from the Arabic Wikipedia.-- فيصل (talk) 23:07, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Delete I only find a link to a student from Syria who graduated in the USA with the same name. Oaktree b (talk) 23:05, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
- Keep, removed the "hashtag-IQ" website which was a blog. The other sites are all news outlets or TV channels. Granted little is known because they are not Western Sources it does seem like this individual is notable in the Arab world. There's a difference between a stub and not being notable. This is is the former. Some work could done to expand the information. Given the awards, it is plausible that someone would search for this individual. I've cleaned up the references. ≫ Lil-Unique1 -{ Talk }- 21:16, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Lil-unique1: Hi, Thank you for your opinion, as an Arab, I can assure you that reliable Arabic sources for "Farah Alhaddad" are very scarce, and all the prizes mentioned are not important or famous, there are just a play with words to make the reader think that the character achieves notability. For example, can you provide me the website for the "Miss Middle East award"? I'm sure you won't be able to, because the award is not important and doesn't even have an official website. As I explained to you earlier that the sources are very scarce in Arabic, I searched for her name on Google specifically in the news section, and the sources are almost non-existent.--فيصل (talk) 06:07, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
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Megan Huntsman
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Patent WP:BLP1E. ––FormalDude talk 03:56, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Merge or improve. I think BLP1E is primarily concerned about if we should have an article about the event or the person behind the event. So the main conclusion we can draw here is that there should be an article about the murders. And therefore we should vote merge to that article. If there is not one, the answer is to edit this article into an event article. ie. improve, rather than delete.
- Read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(people)#People_notable_for_only_one_event carefully if you doubt my analysis please. CT55555 (talk) 04:50, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
- A deletion discussion should not have an outcome of "improve". If the article can be improved, you should improve it yourself. And we cannot merge it to an article that does not exist. These are separate topics, this one clearly violates BLP1E. A deletion of this article does not prevent someone from creating an article about the event, it stops them from creating them about the person, which is inline with Wikipedia policy. ––FormalDude talk 12:55, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
- It doesn't "violate" BLP1E, BLP1E just says it would be better to have an article about the event. Article improvement is a great outcome of AfD. If you are unwilling to make any improvements and somehow think only others should be compelled to do that, then that is your choice, but the AfD trows urgency into the mix and forces action on your timeline. Suggest you withdraw the AfD and drafity and then I actually will work on it without the rush. CT55555 (talk) 13:05, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
- Article improvement is often a good result of AfD, but it should never be an outcome that the AfD is closed as. At this point, another editor has already commented on the merits of a potential event article, so I'm not comfortable withdrawing it. ––FormalDude talk 13:23, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
- To clarify my comment below, I favor deletion because in addition to WP:BLP1E, based on my research, it does not appear that an article about the event can be supported at this time, per the WP:EVENT guideline, which is designed to help evaluate topics per the WP:NOTNEWS policy. For example, I have not found WP:INDEPTH coverage in reliable sources, only listicles of similar events generally, and I have not found indications of WP:LASTING effects or a demonstrable long-term impact since the initial burst of 2014/2015 news published during or immediately after the event. The apparent lack of sufficient WP:CONTINUEDCOVERAGE to support the development of an event article also seems to weigh against draftifying the article. Beccaynr (talk) 14:00, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
- We aren't here to force someone to improve the article, only stating why it should or should not be deleted. Oaktree b (talk) 13:52, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
- It doesn't "violate" BLP1E, BLP1E just says it would be better to have an article about the event. Article improvement is a great outcome of AfD. If you are unwilling to make any improvements and somehow think only others should be compelled to do that, then that is your choice, but the AfD trows urgency into the mix and forces action on your timeline. Suggest you withdraw the AfD and drafity and then I actually will work on it without the rush. CT55555 (talk) 13:05, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
- A deletion discussion should not have an outcome of "improve". If the article can be improved, you should improve it yourself. And we cannot merge it to an article that does not exist. These are separate topics, this one clearly violates BLP1E. A deletion of this article does not prevent someone from creating an article about the event, it stops them from creating them about the person, which is inline with Wikipedia policy. ––FormalDude talk 12:55, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Delete per WP:BLP1E and WP:NOTNEWS, e.g.
Wikipedia considers the enduring notability of persons and events. While news coverage can be useful source material for encyclopedic topics, most newsworthy events do not qualify for inclusion and Wikipedia is not written in news style.
Coverage does not appear to be WP:SUSTAINED, and there appear to be no WP:LASTING effects from the event, international coverage is not a sufficent basis on its own to support notability, particularly without a demonstrable long-term impact, WP:INDEPTH coverage does not appear to be available, becauseMedia sources sometimes report on events because of their similarity (or contrast, or comparison) to another widely reported incident. Editors should not rely on such sources to afford notability to the new event, since the main purpose of such articles is to highlight either the old event or such types of events generally
, and per the WP:CONTINUEDCOVERAGE guideline,Events that are only covered in sources published during or immediately after an event, without further analysis or discussion, are likely not suitable for an encyclopedia article
, so there also does not appear to be sufficient support for an WP:EVENT article. Beccaynr (talk) 22:00, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
- Do not delete Do not delete Megan Huntsman as the article is better put together than other existing articles about serial killers and her case is notable and infamous with a YouTube video about her having 1.3 million views.--Shktriib1 (talk) 00:09, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Shktriib1: It doesn't matter how well put together it is if it violates Wikipedia's notability policy. ––FormalDude talk 12:50, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
And what about her case being infamous with a YouTube video about her having 1.3 million views doesn’t that count as notable? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shktriib1 (talk • contribs) 00:20, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- Fame may be considered, but according to our policies and guidelines, we also need sources to help us develop an encyclopedic article. According to the notability guideline,
Determining notability does not necessarily depend on things such as fame, importance, or popularity—although those may enhance the acceptability of a subject that meets the guidelines
. The guidelines are explained on that page, which also references the What Wikipedia is not policy. For this article, the WP:NOTNEWS policy appears to favor deletion of the article, because according to the WP:BLP1E policy (which applies to people notable only for one event) and the WP:EVENT guideline, there does not appear to be enough coverage in independent and reliable sources to write an encyclopedia article about the person or the event. Beccaynr (talk) 15:29, 19 June 2022 (UTC) Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- Weak keep better need of sources. Oaktree b (talk) 12:10, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
- Did you even read the above discussion? Better sources do not exist. ––FormalDude talk 12:20, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
- I find Global News, the Independent, an NPR report. Lots of sources. Oaktree b (talk) 13:40, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
- None of which overcome WP:BLP1E. ––FormalDude talk 13:42, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
- We have plenty of sources, it even passes WP:GNG, tons of media coverage as a serial killer. More than notable here. Reliable sources, sustained coverage in multiple languages (English, Spanish, Norwegian, French). We have articles on other serial killers, how is this one different? A series of sustained events over the course of a decade, coverage in multiple language sources. Oaktree b (talk) 13:48, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
- Also mentioned in books and peer-reviewed journals. We've kept articles with less sourcing, this is almost a slam-dunk notability case. "Sustained coverage" being the idea here. She's cited as a "case study" in this scholarly work: [13]. That's more than WP:BLP1E, you're well into an academic review of her life. Oaktree b (talk) 13:54, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
- She's also got four feature articles in the New York Times, I'm not sure how much more sourcing you need? Oaktree b (talk) 13:59, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
- The "case study" mentioned above is presented as a prompt for discussion along with 3 other cases, without context or analysis about Huntsman or the event, and all of the information is cited to a 2014 HuffPost article [14]. On GBooks, there is Serial Murderers and their Victims, also citing her as a case study at p. 309, telling the reader to "Google this case" and then asking a series of questions, not offering analysis. This type of superficial coverage appears to be insufficient per WP:NOTNEWS, including as discussed in greater detail in the WP:BLP1E policy as well as the WP:SUSTAINED and WP:EVENT guidelines. Beccaynr (talk) 14:15, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
- Four feature articles in the NYT and sustained media coverage over 10 yrs in at least 4 different languages, are notable. ~~ Oaktree b (talk) 21:09, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
- Over ten years? I'm not seeing any reliable significant sources that aren't from 2014 or 2015. That's two years, and it's strictly in the context of one single event. And I'm not seeing any sources at all that are from before 2014, which is eight years. ––FormalDude talk 21:15, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
- Oaktree b, if you could link to the four feature articles in the NYT and sustained media coverage over ten years, that would be appreciated. I would like to review the sources according to our policies and guidelines. Thank you, Beccaynr (talk) 21:15, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
- Four feature articles in the NYT and sustained media coverage over 10 yrs in at least 4 different languages, are notable. ~~ Oaktree b (talk) 21:09, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
- Also mentioned in books and peer-reviewed journals. We've kept articles with less sourcing, this is almost a slam-dunk notability case. "Sustained coverage" being the idea here. She's cited as a "case study" in this scholarly work: [13]. That's more than WP:BLP1E, you're well into an academic review of her life. Oaktree b (talk) 13:54, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
- We have plenty of sources, it even passes WP:GNG, tons of media coverage as a serial killer. More than notable here. Reliable sources, sustained coverage in multiple languages (English, Spanish, Norwegian, French). We have articles on other serial killers, how is this one different? A series of sustained events over the course of a decade, coverage in multiple language sources. Oaktree b (talk) 13:48, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
- None of which overcome WP:BLP1E. ––FormalDude talk 13:42, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
- I find Global News, the Independent, an NPR report. Lots of sources. Oaktree b (talk) 13:40, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
- Did you even read the above discussion? Better sources do not exist. ––FormalDude talk 12:20, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
Laurie Spicer-Bourdon
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No evidence that she is notable (i.e. meets the WP:GNG and has actual independent reliable sources about her). Very few sources in general[15], nothing in GNews. Perhaps known under another name back then? Fram (talk) 16:12, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
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- The article meets Wikipedia:WikiProject Rugby union/Notability criteria. Tamariki (talk) 16:19, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
- Delete the sourcing does not meet GNG, which is required of all sports related articles.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:01, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- Redirect to 1994 Women's Rugby World Cup squads#United States There's not enough here for a GNG pass in my opinion, although there could be some written coverage in a deeper search. The subject would have also failed the old WP:NRU guidelines as she didn't play in a semi-final. Redirect is a suitable WP:ATD though. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 20:27, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
Gunjan Menon
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(sorry if I messed up the formatting, the page curation tool failed to create the AfD page for some reason, so I am renominating with Twinkle)
I feel like there ought to be sources rising to the level of WP:GNG, but I just have not found them despite searching.
First of all, there is decent-ish coverage related to The Firefox Guardian such as this review or that PR from Jackson Wild who gave it an award. I think the film is notable (if you disagree, go nominate it separately), but WP:NARTIST requires more than one notable film.
There’s a lot of interviews (example) or podcast invitations (example). Also, she wrote [that piece](https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/the-red-panda-lives-in-mountainous-himalayan-trees-yet-it-is-endangered/articleshow/80712399.cms) for the Times of India. None of those count because they are not independent coverage, but at the same time it’s still more than the average photographer, hence my feeling that there should be something around the corner. TigraanClick here for my talk page ("private" contact) 14:39, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
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*Redirect to the Firefox Guardian. No sources for her other than picture captions. Oaktree b (talk) 14:51, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
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The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work.
This does not necessarily require multiple works. ;; Maddy ♥︎(they/she)♥︎ :: talk 14:53, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
- Agree with Maddy that the nom's contention of
WP:NARTIST requires more than one notable film
is incorrect. Jay (talk) 13:53, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- You are correct that multiple films are not needed, but I doubt that the Firefox Guardian is
a significant or well-known work
. That is a higher bar than notable, which I do not think the film passes. TigraanClick here for my talk page ("private" contact) 15:47, 14 June 2022 (UTC)- Significant / Well-known / Notable - they are subject to interpretation. I tried to get some clarity here: WT:Notability (people)/Archive 2022#Well-known, significant and notable, but unless there is consensus, we'll have to go with our own interpretations. Jay (talk) 15:58, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for the link. I have not been active at AfD for at least five years, so I have not followed recent developments. I thought that "significant or well-known" was waaaay above notability. That seems out of the range of opinions shown in the discussion, which goes from "notable or even lower" for a minority to "a step above notable" for the majority (but only a step, not a Mona-Lisa-level of fame). TigraanClick here for my talk page ("private" contact) 16:16, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- Could be subjective, yes, but I feel getting shortlisted for a BAFTA and a mention by the UN and EU def counts as notable/well-known?! Sharonthomasr (talk) 06:13, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- Significant / Well-known / Notable - they are subject to interpretation. I tried to get some clarity here: WT:Notability (people)/Archive 2022#Well-known, significant and notable, but unless there is consensus, we'll have to go with our own interpretations. Jay (talk) 15:58, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- You are correct that multiple films are not needed, but I doubt that the Firefox Guardian is
- Agree with Maddy that the nom's contention of
- Strong Keep::Hey everyone, I argue the article should stay because, within the wildlife filmmaking niche, she's a notable personality. It's not a mainstream genre but in the context of Indian and International wildlife filmmaking industry itself, she is quite well known, has given a TEDx talk and was featured by BBC Earth in their series Close Encounters as well. Here are some other podcasts [16] [17] I came across which don't work as references in the main article itself but I used them as research to write and are useful for this discussion. I've heard one of her talks online and find her very inspiring. (Also, unrelated and playing the devil's advocate here but I don't think conservation filmmakers get enough time or money to do their PR so the articles seem quite genuine but I could be biased). (example) Also on the advisory board of a notable film festival and the description there also suggests she's worked on more than one films as per what someone else pointed out. Hope this helps. Sharonthomasr (talk) 22:52, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
- I found this article in a local newspaper (you might have to translate it) which can count as independent source. And another independent coverage in a South African news outlet - "Akanksha Sood Singh, Doel Trivedy, Gunjan Menon, and Malaika Vaz are four women reinventing the Wildlife Conservation filmmaking sector in India" Sharonthomasr (talk) 23:02, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
- documentarytelevision.com is a (very) passing mention. Anything interview-like (talks by her, exchanges on podcasts etc. etc.) is considered non-independent. So all that is worthless for WP:GNG, which requires that each qualifying source is at the same time (1) reliable, (2) independent, and (3) contains significant coverage. The fact that wildlife filmmaking is niche, that she does useful work, that her life story is inspiring etc. are not excuses to get out of GNG requirements either.
- That being said, patricka.com source is definitely on the better side. Maybe a bit routine, I guess ("the film director came through the village and did film stuff"), but still better than everything that was in the article before.
- I am not withdrawing the nomination (yet) because even if the patrika source counts toward GNG we still need multiple good sources and I do not see another one. If someone can search other sources in Hindi, which I cannot do (wink, wink), I would bet there’s other good stuff. TigraanClick here for my talk page ("private" contact) 16:08, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- Do these count as independent? (I'm really sorry, I've taken your feedback and explanation into account but still new to this...thanks for your patience! In the end if this helps make the article better than win-win for all!)
- 1. Independent, reliable and significant coverage article about a talk on a major platform...
- https://www.indiatoday.in/science/story/forest-laws-diluted-environment-global-priority-india-young-conservationists-1862985-2021-10-09
- 2. Box text in this article by someone else: https://sanctuarynaturefoundation.org/article/entangled-oceans
- 3. Not significant but considerable? " and India based award-winning wildlife filmmaker and writer, Gunjan Menon, The Firefox Guardians. Menon is a National Geographic Explorer, has won multiple accolades with over 40 international awards across 15 countries, and received the JACKSON WILD Rising Star 2020 award."
- https://www.broadwayworld.com/bwwtv/article/Independent-Streaming-Platform-EarthStream-to-Focus-On-Supporting-Non-Profits-Debuts-20211020
- 4. https://redpandanetwork.org/post/A-Photo-Within-A-Photo-Within-A-Photo-The-Cosmic-Side-of-Red-Panda-Conservation
- 5. Saw this today, to lighten up the mood ;) (It's a comic strip, in case you don't see the image, try opening in safari or incognito)
- https://www.greenhumour.com/search?q=red+panda
- 6. http://thevibe.asia/7-female-filmmakers-from-india-who-are-documenting-the-wild-on-lens/
- Sharonthomasr (talk) 07:31, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- Again, we need sources that are simultaneously (A) independent, (B) reliable, and (C) significant coverage. If you have one hundred interviews in big newspapers (failing "independent"), one hundred random blog posts (failing "reliable"), and one hundred entries in film listings (failing "significant coverage"), all those three hundred sources are worth nothing compared to one source that meets all three criteria.
- So from your sources, #1 fails A and maybe C (it only repeats what she said at that conference), #2 fails A and probably C (repeats what Beyond Premieres says about themselves), #3 fails C, #4 fails C and probably A (it is mostly about Menuka Bhattarai), #5 fails all three (yes, I know it was a joke :)), #6 fails C and possibly A (it uses the same picture as other articles, which hints that Menon provided material for the article).
- That’s short but I did not want to write a wall of text - if you disagree with any of those assessments, fine, let’s talk about that specific source. TigraanClick here for my talk page ("private" contact) 08:59, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- Well, I guess at this point we just disagree because of the subjectiveness and contextual importance of the topic and I feel there's not much I can do to convince you more if you've made up your mind. We've both put forth our points so we can let the community decide and vote and even though in this case, I don't agree, this breakdown will definitely help my future articles so thank you! :)
- Sharonthomasr (talk) 05:48, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
- Weak keep with the new sources given above. And I've stuck by vote with the proper wikicode too! lol Oaktree b (talk) 23:59, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
- keep She has worked on more than one film and has done other things too. Using the sources above I believe there is opportunity to improve and expand the article. Deletion would not improve the encyclopedia. Chronotime (talk) 15:33, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- Between Keep and redirect to The Firefox Guardian, I don't have a strong preference. The subject is notable per NARTIST, but there is debate on coverage in multiple independent sources. Agreed, that this is not a case of Subject notable only for one event, however, we also have to see what is currently available in the article. What does the article have that is already not available at The Firefox Guardian, or cannot be moved there? Probably, only the mention of an award from Jackson Wild Rising Star. Should the mention of this award be the deciding factor between having a standalone article vs a redirect? Per the essay WP:Semi-duplicate (which is the case now), it is better to have one redirect to the other. Personally, I have been part of the draft's restoration while in draftspace, and subsequent cleanup, and would have preferred the article to be a lot more about the person, than the 12 minute college thesis project which went on to have a life of its own. This version before the article was significantly trimmed was more like it. Also, I would not want this go back to draftspace (if decided) because the move to draftspace was rejected by the page creator. Jay (talk) 09:00, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- The version you pointed out was a part of one of the first few drafts that were written but it was pointed out that it did not read like an encyclopaedic article and had peacock terms. So I trimmed it considerably thinking sticking to just basic facts was more likely the approved style. But I do agree with you, that was a lot better! Sharonthomasr (talk) 21:51, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
Catherine Coffey
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Unclear what she is actually notable for. Sources are not independent (local Catholic church diocese describing their origin) and hardly indepth. Findagrave is an unreliable source, her death notice in the newspaper[18] indicates that the people then didn't think anything special of her either, with just a little bit more attention for her funeral[19]. Could at most be a redirect to the article on the diocese if one line about her is added there; but just being the first to teach catholicism in one small (at the time) city (and then perhaps just to her own children, as said here) is not much of a claim to fame. Fram (talk) 12:32, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Delete Agree with Nom, although it's sort of a shame to lose such a fascinating little footnote, it is a footnote and belongs in a specialist history of Catholicism in early settler period Australia, perhaps as a passing mention in the Diocese page. Fails WP:GNG. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 13:04, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
I do not agree that this article should be deleted. I think a woman being the first to teach a Catholic catechism class in a new city in the first century that the country was colonised, is notable. She was a woman and so not usually allowed to teach Catholic classes and she was the first teacher of these classes in the city and state of Victoria in Australia. I think she managed a first and it was very unusual so she is notable enough. As for sources, please allow time to search for more secondary sources.LPascal (talk) 10:32, 14 June 2022 (UTC)LPascal
- Keep. Per LPascal. It also is referenced, meets WP:GNG and is of historical significance. Bookworm857158367 (talk) 21:50, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- My advice to Kerrieburn and other editors who want to keep this article to please read WP:FINDAGRAVE and WP:FINDAGRAVE-EL and then work to remove Findagrave as a source. This article has potential, but it also contains a lot of extraneous information which makes it look more like a Findagrave or Ancestry article, rather than a Wikipedia or encyclopedia article, which is extremely problematic. If you need more time to rework this, "draftify" / "userfy" may be an option as well. Happy to answer questions and help if needed, but it is really important to understand the Wikipedia policies regarding Findagrave. Another suggestion is to try to get a hold of some local history books like Remembering Melbourne 1850–1960 which aren't digitised. Cielquiparle (talk) 10:20, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
Comment. I’ve seen the sentiment “AFD is not cleanup” often quoted here. I don’t have the time or the resources to fix up this article. As an American, I’m not knowledgeable enough about the regional history here. I also don’t think the article is anywhere near so problematic that it needs to be “draftified” or deleted outright. I assume references exist offline for a notable subject, quite possibly in some offline history of the region or town centennial book. When someone has time, it will be added and edited and expanded upon. This is an article that should be kept. Bookworm857158367 (talk) 11:52, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
- Keep This article has improved significantly since it was first nominated for deletion, so well done to Kerrieburn for your ongoing edits. All the problematic Findagrave citations have been removed. But in addition to that, better sources have been added and the writing has become much clearer as well, so the argument for notability is clearer. I do have some additional suggestions for further improvements, but I will make them on the Article Talk page. (I agree by the way that AfD is not clean up, but I also think any clean up that does happen as part of that process is a positive thing, and in any case the sudden introduction of more Findagrave sources was a big red flag. That has all been resolved now.) Cielquiparle (talk) 12:08, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
- Keep per WP:HEY and per Cielquiparle. Deus et lex (talk) 00:49, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
Keep Thank you to those who suggested changes to this article and supported it be kept. I think this article now has better sources, notability has been better established and the find a grave sources have been deleted. I hope this delete discussion can be closed now and whoever does those tasks can delete the banner "for deletion" on the article. LPascal (talk) 05:57, 18 June 2022 (UTC)LPascal
Sarah Arzu
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Fails WP:GNG. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 01:02, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Delete - no evidence of notability. GiantSnowman 13:26, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
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Lola Zunnunova
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- The article does not meet WP:GNG. I examined all of the sources.
- 1- An error occurred.
- 2- Her own explanations, not an independent source.
- 3- The page that gives very little information about her.
- 4- An error occurred.
- 5- A video placed in an unreliable website, irrelevant for notability.
- 6- The same YT video with 5th source.
- 7- A junk source.
- 8- Her own explanations again, not independent.
- 9- The same YT video with 5th source.
- 10- A different YT video, does not contributes to her notability.
- 11- A news content which contains 3 sentences about her new job.
- 12- The book does not have Lola Zunnunova inside it.
- 13- "404 Not Found".
- 14- Another YT video, inadequate for notability.
- 15- The same video with 14th link.
- 16- Her own explanations again, not independent.
- 17- An error occurred again with Daryo website.
- 18- The same video with 14th link.
- In the final analysis, the article is inappropriate for an online encyclopedia. A clear example for WP:REFBOMB. Speedy delete. Kadı Message 20:44, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
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- I can access source 1 just fine. Here's the cyrillic version, if that maybe works for you: [20]. It's also archived. Citation 4 works for me too. I've archived it here, maybe you can access that? Same story witht the last Daryo source: archive. ;; Maddy ♥︎(they/she)♥︎ :: talk 10:45, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
- Hi, @Maddy from Celeste! Thank you. I've examined the sources now which are shown by you. They contain her explanations, the last one is about Instagram posts: all of them are inadequate for WP's criterias. Best wishes, Kadı Message 13:44, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
- Keep - passes WP:NACTOR as host of a national TV show and "The best TV presenter of the year". It is probably not expected to find much coverage when the subject is in a small country, but in her own country she seems to be notable. Lovewiki106 (talk) 21:43, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
- Delete Hosting a non-notable TV show and winning a non-notable award won't make someone inherently notable, and is not a NACTOR pass. Per above analysis, also lacks reliable, independent, and most importantly, significant coverage. Only a few sentences and trivial mentions isn't significant. Person fails NACTOR and the GNG. ~StyyxTalk? 07:39, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- Keep: The article appears to be supported by at least three reliable sources.--Ipigott (talk) 07:57, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- Keep. Appears to pass criteria 1 of WP:ENTERTAINER as the host of multiple nationally broadcast programs in her native country. Additionally the source analysis above has issues. Just because you are unable to access a url link doesn't mean the source isn't valid. We would at a minimum WP:AGF just as we would with an offline reference. Further, I found errors in the analysis above (she is mentioned in a long list in that book for example; it's viewable if you search for her name in google books and open that book out of a search). That said, that book is self published and I wouldn't consider it reliable RS. However, she passes criteria 1 of WP:ENTERTAINER, and arguably criteria 1 of WP:ANYBIO. That is all we need to prove notability. Additionally, I am concerned of potential bias on the part of the nominator towards Western culture and English language entertainment and sources. If we had an American or British host of a similar nationally broadcast program who had won similar awards in those countries there would have been no question of deletion. We shouldn't treat the entertainers of non-Western nations differently than American and UK entertainers. 4meter4 (talk) 03:24, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- @4meter4, You are doing mind reading, please do not do. I am from Türkiye, not USA or UK etc. :) Please show me a valuable source about her, I looked all of them and I can read Uzbek. In addition, I am editing systemic bias article :) I am one of the users who are most against systemic bias. All of the sources contains promotional YT videos and her own explanations. I am waiting for your reply. Kadı Message 08:06, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
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Neva Gilbert
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Biography for a non-notable playmate. damiens.rf 06:10, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Comment One story about her in the retirement home [21] from the TV station, might have enough for GNG, unsure about notability. Oaktree b (talk) 15:55, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
- Keep - there are multiple stories about Gilbert. Two by one reporter at the Palm Beach Post (yes, I realize that can be considered as one, but they are from 2016[1] and 2017[2]). Then there is the more routine coverage Playboy centerfolds.[3][4] DaffodilOcean (talk) 12:30, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
- Surely simply being the oldest surviving playboy centrefold makes her noteworthy? 2A00:23C8:3383:7801:698A:75B6:612:132 (talk) 10:16, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
References
- ^ Aydlette, Larry (December 2016). "Lake Worth's Neva Gilbert recalls her "lucky" life as one of Playboy magazine's original Playmates". The Palm Beach Post. Archived from the original on December 19, 2016.
- ^ Aydlette, Larry (2017-02-05). "Lake Worth woman named oldest Playmate". The Palm Beach Post. pp. [1], [2]. Retrieved 2022-06-12.
- ^ Kleiner, Dick (1979-12-06). "Show World Spotlight". The Times-Tribune. p. 38. Retrieved 2022-06-12.
- ^ Lennon, Troy (9 December 2015). "Sting in the bunny tail for Playboy's earliest nudes". The Daily Telegraph; Surry Hills, N.S.W. [Surry Hills, N.S.W]. p. 60.
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Sarah Dunlap
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Not at all my field, but I suspect it needs to be re-evaluated under the current standards for athletes. DGG ( talk ) 22:37, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Comment Dunlap appears to be the NPC National Chamption of 2007, in the United States. This covers the whole of the country, so it likely acceptable as a notability criteria and that makes her notable. However, it is only a single reference, which is primary and 4-line profile. There is not single mention of her anywhere, very little on social media, no other coverage. There is 1 video with 7k views on Youtube. No other sources. Very weak keep. scope_creepTalk 08:21, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
Teyah Lindo
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Fails WP:GNG, all sources are trivial and lack WP:SIGCOV. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 05:05, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Draftify.--MonFrontieres (talk) 17:20, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
- Delete - no evidence of notability. GiantSnowman 13:23, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- Keep I don't agree, the references already on the page seem valid, such as this and this.--Ortizesp (talk) 19:19, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Delete, fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTSCRIT #5. Ortizesp's first source is not independent, being published by a sports team she used to play for, and the second is not WP:SIGCOV, as the only independent coverage it contains is
In the fifth in a series of profiles of football players who will be part of the team representing Bermuda at CONCACAF Caribbean Women’s Under-20 Qualifier that will take place on July 19, July 21, and July 23 at National Sports Center, we spotlight 16-year-old Teyah Lindo.
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Kaleah Smith
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Fails WP:GNG, all sources are trivial and lack WP:SIGCOV. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 05:03, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Draftify.--MonFrontieres (talk) 17:20, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
- Delete - no evidence of notability. GiantSnowman 13:23, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
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Leranja Wilkinson
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Fails WP:GNG, all sources are trivial and lack WP:SIGCOV. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 05:00, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
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Adding this article as well:
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- Draftify.--MonFrontieres (talk) 17:20, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
- Presidial keep, got reverted back to bio stacking, biographies should not be stacked at AfD. Govvy (talk) 18:38, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
- Can you point where this listed or is this an opinion? Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 18:44, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
- Delete - no evidence of notability. GiantSnowman 13:23, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
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Claire-Louise Leyland
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Local councillor in London who led the Conservatives on Camden Council. From WP:Notability (people): "People are presumed notable if they have received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject." I'm not convinced that Leyland meets the criteria. (Similar to her fellow Camden Conservative Oliver Cooper, whom I've also nominated for deletion.) TrottieTrue (talk) 13:21, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Keep - the Sunday Times and Evening Standard articles give significant coverage Mujinga (talk) 10:38, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
- Keep - I wrote this page. On the page which you have linked too it says "Major local political figures who have received significant press coverage" are notable. I set out to write a page for every leader and opposition leader in Camden but I quickly realised that not all of them have received sufficient press coverage. eg the current opposition leader Tom Simon or Giovanni Spinella who was briefly opposition leader between Leyland and Cooper. However Leyland and especially Cooper have received major media coverage including in the national press that goes far beyond the average leader of the opposition on a council this size (almost 300,000 people). Fosse1884 (talk) 14:50, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
Delete- I don’t think the GNG are met. Do we want or need articles for every opposition leader on councils with a large population, even in London? If it was a Camden Wikipedia then the articles would be fine.—TrottieTrue (talk) 15:28, 11 June 2022 (UTC)- User:TrottieTrue, the deletion nomination already counts as an opinion in favour of deletion. I know that deletion discussions are supposedly not votes, but your following it up with a bolded "delete" could lead to double counting, so I would recommend striking that word at the beginning of that statement. Phil Bridger (talk) 17:43, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- Okay, I thought I had to make it clear which option I was “voting” for, so I’ve modified my comment above.—TrottieTrue (talk) 18:02, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Delete I can't understand why this article merits two keep entries, when the coverage is tenuous at best. Doesn't meet in WP:NPOL and supposed coverage is missing. I found the Evening Standard which is on the election campaign and fails NPOL. Didn't find the Sunday Times, but is likely to be the same election cycle news and again failing npol. There is no secondary coverage on it, at all, failing WP:SIGCOV. As far as I can see it is a complete sop and non-notable. scope_creepTalk 08:08, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
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Kelly Hale
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I found nothing that shows notability. Non-notable author. SL93 (talk) 20:41, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Comment She is a very obscure author apparently, according to comments and I could find a bean on her at all, nothing. One of her books did a win a prize at the Great North American Fiction Contest, a prize that has been running for three centuries, so they are probably notable. I would suggest a redirect for the moment to one of the books. scope_creepTalk 07:57, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
BethAnn Bonner
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Lacks notability; one role on One Life to Live is the only role of significance, and has since retired from acting. Bgsu98 (talk) 17:19, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Comment Bonner does not appear to have retired from acting, e.g. multiple reports at Broadway World that describe her ongoing career in 2009, 2010, 2011, and 2021. Beccaynr (talk) 14:39, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
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Susy Schultz
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Most of this page appears to be a resume/ personal page as it lists 11 places she worked and her family. Further, many things are unsourced and the articles was orphaned for a number of years. Bareit98 (talk) 16:15, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Comment: At the very least, this needs updating. It asserts her to be executive director of the Museum of Broadcast Communications whose own website indicates a different person in that role. - Jmabel | Talk 00:48, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
- Weak keep. While this currently reads a bit like a resume, it reads like the resume of someone notable enough for an article. I think this should be improved, not deleted. - Jmabel | Talk 00:48, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Keep. The article needs more improvement but she seems notable. Her new jobs are often written up not just as press releases but as both media trade pieces (like [22] for her current position) but also general public like when she was named Exe Director of a museum and the Trib wrote an article [23]. I added both of of those and [24] to the article to update it a bit. She's also been featured on NPR as an expert on Chicago Media [25] (not sure how/if to include it), wrote an article that apparently was published by a journal [26] about the fairness doctrine, and going even further back was quoted by name at a protest at her college in the early 80s [27]. And there's more passing to significant mentions in various PR/trade press. Skynxnex (talk) 21:04, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
- Comment: Made a minor update to section on personal life and will start adding citations to the rest of the article. I’m new to editing so wary of removing information without being sure, was anyone able to find information on the Pulitzer nomination? Her name doesn’t come up in any results and there is no evidence I can find to suggest she was a finalist. Number 21 on Pulitzer’s FAQ page states they discourage saying someone was nominated simply because an entry was received, but I’m unsure if this is the case here. BLELicaN (talk) 12:23, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
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Evi Siskos
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No indication that she meets WP:NBIO. – Ploni (talk) 12:02, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Delete Six hits in Gnews, one explaining her color choice when redecorating, rest are only mentions. Oaktree b (talk) 14:51, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
- Delete not even close to meeting the inclusion guidelines for either television hosting or acting.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:35, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
- Keep. Host of a daily show on a major network. Gamaliel (talk) 16:32, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
- Comment Acceso Total is a local show airing on Telemundo O&O stations which is not a part of the national schedule, and which has advertorial segments. The version mentioned in New York on WNJU is merely a seven-minute segment of their noontime newscast. Commonly we don't keep articles for local advertorial show hosts. Nate • (chatter) 04:23, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 13:28, 17 June 2022 (UTC)- Hello my name is Evi Siskos I am the actual person behind this name. I am a NY Emmy Nominated television host that has worked for many years on the Spanish Network Telemundo as a television host. I am currently the host of a travel show called Conectate y Explora on Display TV. I have over 10 years of experience in television and voice over work. My voice can be heard on various tv shows and animations such as the famous childrens tv shows like Pinkalicious as the voice of Flora. If you need more information about me you can find my information on my social media pages at Evisiskos 182.1.69.149 (talk) 07:37, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
- Can you link to those specific social media posts which can highlight significant contribution or otherwise significant coverage from sources that are independent of you? Abhishek0831996 (talk) 17:13, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
- Hello my name is Evi Siskos I am the actual person behind this name. I am a NY Emmy Nominated television host that has worked for many years on the Spanish Network Telemundo as a television host. I am currently the host of a travel show called Conectate y Explora on Display TV. I have over 10 years of experience in television and voice over work. My voice can be heard on various tv shows and animations such as the famous childrens tv shows like Pinkalicious as the voice of Flora. If you need more information about me you can find my information on my social media pages at Evisiskos 182.1.69.149 (talk) 07:37, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
Laura Ann Kesling
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As per WP:NACTOR. Does not appear to have had any significant roles since appearing in one film in 2008. – Ploni (talk) 11:21, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Delete I don't think her roles are sufficient for notability, NACTOR requires multiple important roles. BrigadierG (talk) 11:29, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Comment: FWIW, pretty much everyone else with a comparably-sized role in Bedtime Stories has an article. - Jmabel | Talk 00:52, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
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Crystal Allen
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Has not had significant roles in multiple notable productions, as per WP:NACTOR. – Ploni (talk) 11:05, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Delete Many mentions of "unconfirmed" or "uncredited", rest are one-offs or bit parts. Nothing notable for our purposes here. Oaktree b (talk) 13:48, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
- Comment I added in coverage of her work. The Calgary Herald covered her extensively after her role in Falling in Love with the Girl Next Door[1] and her role in Beware of Mom generated some press.[2] DaffodilOcean (talk) 14:10, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
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- ^ Partridge, Jennifer (4 February 2006). "Calgarian gets break as girl next door". Calgary Herald; Calgary, Alta. [Calgary, Alta]. pp. D5. Retrieved June 3, 2022.
- ^ Krishnamurthy, Chaitra (August 15, 2020). "'Beware of Mom': Meet Crystal Allen, Rene Ashton and rest of the cast of Lifetime's thriller movie". meaww.com. Retrieved 2022-06-03.
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Mary Koncel
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Article is an orphan. Also it has needed additional citations for 11 years. Ellipsis22 (talk) 02:26, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Delete Additionally uncited or orphaned don't count towards WP:GNG or WP:NACADEMIC (if we're going that route based on her visiting poet post at Smith or her fellowship from Massachusetts Cultural Council), neither do they count towards WP:POET. Sadly, nothing else I can find does, either, so here we are. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 10:59, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
CommentKeep Two of Koncel's books have been reviewed by the newspapers, though I have only found papers in New England that discuss her work. I have added these citations to her article (and removed the tag regarding the lack of citations). DaffodilOcean (talk) 13:51, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
- Change to keep, the additional coverage of her work with the American Wild Horse Campaign is just enough to make her notable. DaffodilOcean (talk) 17:56, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
- Weak keep. It is surprisingly difficult to find published reviews of poetry books. Two newspaper reviews each of two books could be enough for WP:AUTHOR. We also have a local newspaper interview making clear that (although our article doesn't say so) she is the same person as the Mary Koncel associated with the American Wild Horse Campaign, another local newspaper story covering her work with the campaign, and a nonlocal newspaper story with some more in-passing mentions. I'm not sure the wild horse aspect of her story would be enough for WP:GNG on its own, but together with the poetry reviews I think there's enough here. —David Eppstein (talk) 00:06, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
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Comment, Koncel appears to have been covered by the January-February 2005 issue of the American Book Review (see here) if anyone has access to confirm. Coolabahapple (talk) 15:05, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
Solo Darling
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Coverage consists of databases and event results and promotions. Pro wrestlers are entertainers and I don't see coverage that meets WP:GNG or any other notability standard. Sandals2 (talk) 17:38, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Delete Reading the article, agree. The article just have results as sources, with no focus on her. I made a quick research and most of the sources are results. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 13:44, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Delete per HHH Pedrigree. BilledMammal (talk) 06:46, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
Naushabah Khan
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Poorly formatted and semi-advertorialized WP:BLP of a political figure, not properly sourced as passing WP:NPOL. The notability claims here are that she's a local authority councillor and an unsuccessful candidate for election to Westminster -- but neither of those are "inherently" notable roles that guarantee Wikipedia articles: local authority councillors are notable only if they can credibly claim to have special nationalized significance that would make them markedly more notable than most other local authority councillors, and unelected candidates get to have Wikipedia articles only if they were already notable enough to have Wikipedia articles for other reasons anyway.
While there's a very, very long list of "references" here, they're all just contextlessly listed in the references section without actually being used to footnote any of the body content, and they mostly aren't proper support for notability anyway -- they represent a mixture of primary sources that aren't support for notability at all (e.g. her own alumni profile on the self-published website of her own alma mater, her contributor profile on the self-published website of an organization that she's written content for), glancing namechecks of her existence as a provider of soundbite in coverage of other things, and purely run of the mill local election coverage in local media where coverage of local elections is merely expected. Essentially, the creator just listed every web page they could find that had Naushabah Khan's name in it at all, without regard to whether it was WP:GNG-worthy media coverage about her or not.
None of the sourcing here is adequate, and nothing stated in the article is "inherently" notable enough to exempt her sourcing from having to be better. Bearcat (talk) 16:34, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Leaning keep Here's why:
- https://www.kentonline.co.uk/medway/news/medway-councillor-in-the-us-115285/ (about her, includes interviews)
- https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/labour-candidate-upset-by-ukip-rhetoric-0vk609hv9cn (paywall only let me read the first page but seems to be completely about her and done indepedently)
- https://www.kentonline.co.uk/medway/news/immigration-is-a-proxy-for-27012/ (brief, but is a news report that is about her and the London Mayor)
- https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/labour-s-england-problem quotes her book, it's brief
- https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/britains-uk-independence-party-expected-to-win-crucial-vote-before-general-election/2014/11/19/8a4bd826-6ff8-11e4-a2c2-478179fd0489_story.html has 5 sentences
- Seems to suggest she is notable. CT55555 (talk) 22:06, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nom, and from what I have found in the WP Library, she is an author of an essay in the book Labour's Identity Crisis: England and the Politics of Patriotism, ed. Tristram Hunt, the author of the Spectator article. There is brief commentary about and a quote from her essay in a 2016 book review by The Guardian (via Gale). The 2014 WaPo article (also available via Gale) is focused on the UKIP expected win, and briefly introduces her and quotes her at the end of the article. In 2014, the Sunday Times (via Gale) in an article about the election generally, appreciated her campaign slogan but also expected her to lose. In 2015, the London Standard (via Gale) in an article generally about the election, briefly mentions her with "works in public affairs in London and whose hobbies include kick-boxing, is standing again" as context. There is PR consultant and keen kickboxer Naushabah Khan selected as Labour party candidate in Rochester and Strood (Kent Online, 2013), but it is based on an interview, although there is independent content about her, her education, and career. The paywalled Times article is also available via Gale, but does not continue much past the preview beyond noting "Ukip is on course to win" and referencing a past comment by Nigel Farage. ProQuest offers more election coverage where she is mentioned, including with kickboxing puns, but I am not finding in-depth, secondary coverage to support WP:GNG/WP:BASIC, WP:NPOL, or WP:AUTHOR. Beccaynr (talk) 03:27, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
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Tammy Hostetler
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All awards mentioned in sources were awarded at junior level, sourcing is scanty at best, no mainstream media coverage. Fails WP:GNG; WP:BASIC. Alexandermcnabb (talk) 13:50, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Keep Passes GNG, If the basis is that she won in junior tournaments, this is false. The sources clearly show that she medaled in a national tournament and two international tournaments. [1] BlackAmerican (talk)
- Keep. The Herald & Review mention is confusingly stated, but the British Open and U.S. National medals don't appear to be at the junior level and would meet WP:MANOTE notability requirements. —Carter (Tcr25) (talk) 13:42, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
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Delete. Comment: WP:MANOTE is an essay and so carries zero weight at AfD; the appropriate guideline is NSPORT, which requires GNG be met. BlackAmerican what multiple independent, secondary, and reliable sources have you found that give her SIGCOV? EDIT: The coverage in Black Belt magazine seems substantial, but we'd need more than one source. American Judo newspaper is published by the org she belongs to and so is not independent, and none of the other sources appear to contribute to GNG. JoelleJay (talk) 22:21, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
- MANOTE is relevant in that NSPORT has no additional guidance for judoka. She has several mentions in Black Belt articles during her active career, are you asking for additional publications covering her? There is repeated coverage of her in the Decatur Herald and Review, including her national and international competitions. I'd also question the idea that a national association's newspaper wouldn't be considered independent of a member of the association; it could be different for coverage of an association's leader or association activities, but reporting on competitions and any given competitors would seem to be outside of the individual's ability to influence the coverage. Carter (Tcr25) (talk) 15:28, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
- No, MANOTE is not an SNG so it does not have anything beyond essay status. Athletes that aren't covered by an NSPORT sub-SNG default to SPORTCRIT, which is essentially GNG.
- I can't access the first Herald & Review article, but the second wouldn't be considered SIGCOV as it has just a few sentences on her reporting event results. But I can believe she has more coverage based on the magazine profile so if there's a lot more content directly on her in the other H&R piece then that's probably sufficient for GNG.
- National organizations are never considered independent of their members -- they (orgs) are financially obliged to promote positive material related to the org and therefore are not neutral or reflective of actual wider interest. Hope that helps. JoelleJay (talk) 17:05, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
- MANOTE is relevant in that NSPORT has no additional guidance for judoka. She has several mentions in Black Belt articles during her active career, are you asking for additional publications covering her? There is repeated coverage of her in the Decatur Herald and Review, including her national and international competitions. I'd also question the idea that a national association's newspaper wouldn't be considered independent of a member of the association; it could be different for coverage of an association's leader or association activities, but reporting on competitions and any given competitors would seem to be outside of the individual's ability to influence the coverage. Carter (Tcr25) (talk) 15:28, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
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Wildgirl
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The article has one solid source (the NYT piece) that contributes towards WP:GNG. The other three sources do not contribute to notability, by virtue of being unsubstantial and/or unreliable. It has been surprisingly hard to find useful sources about her and it seems that the decision taken at the last AfD should be upheld. Modussiccandi (talk) 16:52, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Comment. It's not mentioned in the article, but from my cursory Google search it appears she uses (used?) the name "Ericka Dana" in addition to "Ericka Peterson" and "Wildgirl". pburka (talk) 17:22, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Keep with Dana last name(after marriage) found this coverage in Iowa The Gazette(The Muscatine Journal also ran nearly identical article). Second confirmation of name and same radio station/nickname in passing mention in Daily News. A lot of stuff from 90s probably hard to find, but we have some, and the NYT coverage particularly gives me impression more exists. WikiVirusC(talk) 11:20, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
Rahel Blocher
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Fails WP:BIO and WP:GNG. Lacks significant coverage to support notability. Geoff | Who, me? 17:46, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
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CommentI started adding in coverage her from the Swiss press. DaffodilOcean (talk) 20:08, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
References
- ^ Pfister, Jessica (2021-11-07). "Blochers Jüngste im Rampenlicht". Schweizer illustrierte. Retrieved 2022-04-19.
- ^ Ihle, Pascal; Knüsel-Rietmann, Melanie. "Das Phantom". Handelszeitung (in Swiss High German). Retrieved 2022-05-30.
- ^ "Jüngste Blocher-Tochter greift in Covid-Schlacht ein". Nau.ch. Retrieved 2022-04-19.
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- keep I think she must really be notable, at times most sources are hidden. EV Excalatory Vocian 18:00, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Delete Even in French, I can only find what are press releases. Oaktree b (talk) 23:45, 13 June 2022 (UTC)