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NPOV & COI Dispute
I have read the disputed article and I am not able to find an NPOV nor a COI issue. The text is written objectively and properly backed by sources. I suggest deleting the maintenance template.
Have a great day. - User:Modurr —Preceding undated comment added 09:01, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
Agree in principle, whilst this article does seem to have been biased initially when setup, it appears that objective and has been adequately addressed a since flagging this. Looks like a dormant discussion on this 78.24.33.244 (talk) 14:41, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
- As an IP editor, you are not in a good position to be making this statement, or removing the templates, which I have reinstated. Edwardx (talk) 17:02, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
Since no person has responded, can I suggest we delete the NPOV & COI Dispute templates? Waterpr8f (talk) 11:45, 06 June 2019 (UTC)
Malta and Daphne Galizia case
I saw this on other pages on Wikipedia before: There are several companies/people blamed on Wikipedia that they are involved in the Daphne Galizia case. However, by now it is clear who the perpetrators were and those companies accused on Wikipedia have nothing to do with it. There are certainly other editors with more experience than me but I personally don't think that those blaming-paragraphs are correct. Can I suggest deleting them? Fisherman887 (talk) 19:55, 04 February 2020 (UTC)
In my opinion, it is fair to have the discussions (pros- and cons) about the Maltese Individual Investor Programme under Criticism and Controversy but I agree, the connection to Daphne Galizia is outdated and misleading and the Shift News as a source might also be critical.Waterpr8f (talk) 10:58, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
- Fisherman887, why have you still not addressed the conflict of interest notice left on your talkpage in January 2019, over a year ago? Edwardx (talk) 11:34, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
- Hello Edwardx. Thanks for the reminder and the simple answer is that I don’t see a COI. I don’t know the company other than from the outside. CbI programmes caught my interest several years ago and I do see great potential in them. The pages I used to edit where those that have the most information about the topics including the page of the industry-leader. While the positive benefits of CbI is also seen by many newspapers and experts, there still seem to be attempts on Wikipedia to defame rather than inform. If (any) allegations are justified, I do not have any problems with them. Yet I do think that if they are not justified and misleading, they should be deleted on Wikipedia. The sentence which I deleted is indeed very misleading and links a credible player in that industry with a murder. This is a very serious incrimination and by now, we know who the perpetrators are. I therefore started a discussion about this on the talk page a month ago and only one other editor replied. You did not engage in this discussion but just reversed the edits. I still think this sentence needs to be deleted. Fisherman887 (talk) 12:57, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
- Edwardx, I haven't heard back from you, neither here nor on my talk page. Please let me know what you think, otherwise, I'm going to undo your edit. Fisherman887 (talk) 09:52, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
- Hello Edwardx. Thanks for the reminder and the simple answer is that I don’t see a COI. I don’t know the company other than from the outside. CbI programmes caught my interest several years ago and I do see great potential in them. The pages I used to edit where those that have the most information about the topics including the page of the industry-leader. While the positive benefits of CbI is also seen by many newspapers and experts, there still seem to be attempts on Wikipedia to defame rather than inform. If (any) allegations are justified, I do not have any problems with them. Yet I do think that if they are not justified and misleading, they should be deleted on Wikipedia. The sentence which I deleted is indeed very misleading and links a credible player in that industry with a murder. This is a very serious incrimination and by now, we know who the perpetrators are. I therefore started a discussion about this on the talk page a month ago and only one other editor replied. You did not engage in this discussion but just reversed the edits. I still think this sentence needs to be deleted. Fisherman887 (talk) 12:57, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
UDP
I have tagged this article {{undisclosed paid}}; it has been heavily targeted by the GlobeClimber/KraYa sockfarm and suffers from promo issues. This is confirmed UPE, I can provide more detail to OTRS members on request. Blablubbs|talk 09:32, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
Resolving UPE issues
Hi, my name is Sarah and I work for Henley & Partners. I recently introduced myself to User:Blablubbs, who encouraged me to propose a redrafted, shorter version of this article to facilitate the removal of the "undisclosed paid" tag. My draft, which can be found at User:Sarah Nicklin/Henley & Partners, is heavily derived from this old revision from April 2018, which was just before the undisclosed paid editing began, as far as I understand. I made sure to leave in content that appears to have been added by legitimate editors.
I have several suggestions in mind for improving and expanding the article, but my first priority is to start over with a clean slate, and only then begin proposing changes here on the Talk page.
Pinging 15 and Blablubbs. Please take a look at the draft and let me know if you think it's a constructive first step in resolving the article's problems, or if it doesn't go far enough, or even if goes too far. Thank you, Sarah Nicklin (talk) 10:17, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
- Sarah Nicklin,
- RE Impact: Add the Global Citizen Award from the current version to your draft (
The firm has also developed the annual Global Citizen Award, which consists of a USD 50,000 monetary prize.
+ sources), given that it has received independent coverage and is hence due for inclusion. - RE Criticism and controversy: Add H&Ps denial to the last paragraph of your draft from the current version (
Henley & Partners denied these allegations, confirming that Low was never a client and was specifically rejected as such in 2015.
+ source), but replace "confirming" with "asserting" or similar. I'm happy thatHenley & Partners was criticized from time to time [...]
was removed from the criticism section in your draft given that it is only loosely related. 15 (talk) 10:31, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
- @15: Done! Thanks for your quick response. Sarah Nicklin (talk) 11:37, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
- Sarah Nicklin, remove
In addition to advising private clients and governments, Kälin is a speaker and writer[15] who is regularly quoted in the international media.[16][17][18][19][20] Having coined the term ius doni as a stand-in for citizenship-by-investment, Kälin introduced the concept of ius doni into the contemporary legal and political theory of citizenship by providing the first comprehensive academic analysis of the subject.[21]
in User:Sarah Nicklin/Henley & Partners § Notes and I'm happy for you to implement the changes (=copy over your draft article and replace the current version with it). It reads too promotional and the level of detail is unneeded, given that Kälin has his own article. There is also a possible sourcing issue with ius doni, which might be best discussed at Kälin's article. 15 (talk) 22:00, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
- Sarah Nicklin, remove
- @15: Done! Thanks for your quick response. Sarah Nicklin (talk) 11:37, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
- @15: I made the changes, per your instructions. Thanks again for your willingness to work with me on this. Sarah Nicklin (talk) 08:22, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
Tags
Hi Ethanbas, are there specific parts you suggest should be rewritten or trimmed from the article? I am afraid that the tags themselves are not very helpful to me without any further explanation, particularly given the recent rewrite. Best, 15 (talk) 10:11, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
- The article (as well as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Quality_of_Nationality_Index) just read wrong to me. I picked all the tags which I thought are applicable to both of these articles. It's good that there was a rewrite, but there are still way, way, way too many minor details in these articles that need to be removed in order for the article to be read better. I don't have the time to edit these articles, but as someone who reads at least a hundred Wikipedia articles each day, these two articles just jumped out in my eyes as being written with too many details and in a promotional / advertisement manner. That's all. I appreciate the rewrite but it needs to be rewritten further. Ethanbas (talk) 05:55, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
Criticism section
I'd like to request that the contents of the "Criticism and controversy" section be integrated into the History section, per WP:CSECTION.
Also, please remove the third paragraph (about The Shift News) entirely, as the two sources cited in the paragraph are both from The Shift News, which should not be considered a legitimate source of information about itself. (I also don't think the incident described here is noteworthy enough to merit inclusion in an encyclopedia article about the company, but that may be a moot point due to the improper sourcing.)
Pinging 15 - it would be great if you could weigh in here. Thanks, Sarah Nicklin (talk) 13:31, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
- Sarah Nicklin, while I'm not sure about your claim of The Shift News' reliability, it doesn't look like it was picked up much by other media making it undue. I have removed it. Regarding the integration of the criticism section, I believe a chronological integration would be best? 15 (talk) 13:58, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
- @15: Yes, chronological integration of the Criticism section makes the most sense. (I can perform that integration myself if you prefer and permit.) Thanks for your edits here, and when you get a chance, please do take a look at Talk:Christian Kälin#Resolving UPE issues. Sarah Nicklin (talk) 13:42, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
- Sarah Nicklin, I've gone ahead and merged the CSection into the history one. Feel free to suggest how it should be otherwise structured. Happy to include more information (also outside of the controversy) in the Henley & Partners § Malta Individual Investor Programme, as it mainly consists of the former controversy part. 15 (talk) 09:18, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
- @15: Thanks for taking care of the Criticism section. I think the structure is great, except the final paragraph now appears to be related to the Malta Individual Investor Programme, when in fact it is about another topic entirely, and should probably be moved to directly above the "Malta Individual Investor Programme" heading.
- Sarah Nicklin, I've gone ahead and merged the CSection into the history one. Feel free to suggest how it should be otherwise structured. Happy to include more information (also outside of the controversy) in the Henley & Partners § Malta Individual Investor Programme, as it mainly consists of the former controversy part. 15 (talk) 09:18, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
- @15: Yes, chronological integration of the Criticism section makes the most sense. (I can perform that integration myself if you prefer and permit.) Thanks for your edits here, and when you get a chance, please do take a look at Talk:Christian Kälin#Resolving UPE issues. Sarah Nicklin (talk) 13:42, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
- Aside from that, I would suggest further improving the undue weight problem in the Malta subsection by taking the following steps:
- In the first paragraph of the Malta subsection, remove all three sentences about Arton Capital (from "Arton Capital, a competing firm..." till the end of the paragraph). This ended up being a complete non-incident: an appeal of the Maltese government's decision to hire H&P that was filed by a rival firm and eventually dropped with little fanfare.
- Also in the first paragraph of the Malta subsection, add the following sentences to elaborate on the program itself: "The program provided citizenship to foreign individuals and their families who contribute to the country's economic development. The country later introduced more stringent conditions for acquiring citizenship, such as proof of residence in Malta for at least 12 months." (Source)
- What do you think? Sarah Nicklin (talk) 11:25, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
- I think it's a complicated matter which requires some background reading. There is a lot of (better sourced) material not yet in the article, I'll try to get around doing it in the next few days. 15 (talk) 20:11, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
- Partially done. Trimmed the section about Arton Capital but did not removed it. While what they did is quite common, it was still reported on and should be included per WP:PROPORTION. Added the sentence you suggested with slight wording changes for npov and tense. See diff. 15 (talk) 18:34, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
- I think it's a complicated matter which requires some background reading. There is a lot of (better sourced) material not yet in the article, I'll try to get around doing it in the next few days. 15 (talk) 20:11, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
- Aside from that, I would suggest further improving the undue weight problem in the Malta subsection by taking the following steps:
Proposing changes to lead and History
Hi, this is Sarah from Henley & Partners, here again to propose a few more changes to the article, specifically to the lead section and the History section.
Lead:
Please add the following as the second sentence of the article: "It is the largest investment migration consultancy in the world." The source is the Quartz article that is already cited later in the lead. (This sentence should probably be followed by a paragraph break, though one might legitimately disagree.)
History:
- It looks odd for the History section to have one subsection ("Malta Individual Investor Programme"). I propose to remove that subsection heading, as the History section in its entirety is not so long that it requires subsections. Alternatively, there could be multiple subsections apart from just the one on Malta, but that would probably lead to overly short subsections, which is also not ideal.
- Add the following sentence as the second paragraph in the History section: Since 2006,[1] the company has hosted an annual Global Citizenship Conference focusing on topics relating to residence and citizenship planning, the 15th of which took place in November-December 2021.[2][3][4]
- Expand the sentence that begins "Following the successful restructuring..." (my addition in bold): Following the successful restructuring of the St. Kitts and Nevis citizenship program, Henley & Partners began to advise the governments of Antigua and Barbuda, Grenada, and Cyprus on how to develop their own investment migration programs,[5] and has since that time worked for and been mandated by several other governments.[6][7][8][9]
- It is WP:UNDUE to have three whole paragraphs on the Jho Low incident at the end of the History section. Even the first paragraph alone is undue in my opinion, but certainly the following two paragraphs (which were added by an IP several weeks ago) are superfluous.
References
- ^ Abrahamian, Atossa Araxia (2015). The Cosmopolites: The Coming of the Global Citizen. Columbia Global Reports. p. 92. ISBN 978-0-9909763-6-3.
- ^ "15th Global Citizenship Conference". www.henleyglobal.com.
- ^ Abrahamian, Atossa Araxia (12 February 2012). "Special Report: Passports . . . for a price". Reuters.
- ^ Neate, Rupert (16 November 2019). "London ballroom hosts showcase event for 'golden passports'". The Guardian.
- ^ Cite error: The named reference
Skift
was invoked but never defined (see the help page). - ^ "Government Advisory Practice - Henley & Partners". www.henleyglobal.com.
- ^ "Thailand Lures The Ultra Wealthy". finews.asia. 31 March 2017.
- ^ Ljubas, Zdravko (4 October 2019). "Montenegro Launches Golden Visa Application Process". occrp.org.
- ^ "From Malta to Moldova: Henley & Partners new citizenship adventure". The Malta Independent. 14 July 2018.
Pinging 15 once again - thank you for bearing with me here! Sarah Nicklin (talk) 14:18, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
- Hello,
- I want to keep the subsection as the paragraphs belong together and more generally because I dislike the tendency of history sections in articles on (extant) companies to become timelines in prose form. There is (or surely will be) information on post-2015 developments that can be added with a new subsection at the end of the history section.
- Added with slight rewording.
- Done.
- I'm not surprised that you find it undue, but ultimately it has been widely covered by media, even if the actual connection of H&P to Jhu Low is more limited than I think media suggests. I have removed following two paragraphs.
- While edit requests such as these don't take long, I don't see myself finding much time to spend on them (or indeed Wikipedia at all) in the near future. While you are welcome to ping me in future requests, it would be good to add the COI edit request template in the future to hopefully get a quicker response (but not hugely likely given the lack of editors working in this mostly mind numbing area). That's not to say your requests were difficult to handle, but it's mostly a time thing. Best, 15 (talk) 23:08, 25 December 2021 (UTC)
- And perhaps, in the interest of adding
information on post-2015 developments
to the History section, we can also add the following sentence: In February 2022, Henley & Partners, in partnership with Deep Knowledge Analytics, launched the Best Investment Migration Real Estate Index, an index that compares countries by how welcoming they are for people seeking a secondary residence or citizenship.[1][2]
- And perhaps, in the interest of adding
References
- ^ Chadha, Sunainaa (9 February 2022). "Dubai takes top spot in new real estate migration index". The Times of India.
- ^ "UAE takes top spot in new global real estate index". Gulf News. 8 February 2022.
- Thank you! Sarah Nicklin (talk) 13:17, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
- Also, I see that another editor added the {{Cleanup-PR}} tag to the article. This was very frustrating for me to see, since, as you know, a big part of the work the two of us have done over the last several months was to move the article away from reading like a press release. Can this tag be removed, at least until the editor who added it elaborates on where he feels the article is still problematic? Sarah Nicklin (talk) 13:16, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
- Hi, I have added the index with some changes. Pinging DGG regarding the PR tag: Is there anything which you would like to see changed? I realise there is probably more to be said re: Daphne Galizia and Passport Papers (can't believe I'm only finding out now...) either here or at the Kälin article, but that shouldn't have an impact on what else the article covers. 15 (talk) 14:20, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
- Also, I see that another editor added the {{Cleanup-PR}} tag to the article. This was very frustrating for me to see, since, as you know, a big part of the work the two of us have done over the last several months was to move the article away from reading like a press release. Can this tag be removed, at least until the editor who added it elaborates on where he feels the article is still problematic? Sarah Nicklin (talk) 13:16, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
- To start with:
- The article calls the firm both an " investment migration consultancy" a global citizenship and residence advisory firm" and an "immigration consultancy" Pick one and stay with it.
- "is active in refugee related philanthropy and has been criticised for its core business model, which detractors believe to threaten the fight against cross-border corruption and crime." combines a positive attribute with a negative one. This should be separated.
- The name of the firm is used too often. Replace most of them by "the firm" or "they" . Similarly for Malta Individual Investor Programme.
- Some of the firm's publciations have separate articles inc WP, which means that just an identification for them is needed here. WP is hypertext, and uses links.
- Add the 2021 reference:"Passport Papers: ‘To the clients, we say do the bare minimum’
Henley & Partners advise an undercover journalist about Malta's golden passports" Times of Malta April 23,2021 [1]
Additions to 'Later history' and 'Publications'
Hello, it's Sarah again, with a few more proposed changes and additions.
Later history
- Add the following sentence to the beginning of the subsection: In March 2021, the company published the Investment Migration Programs Health Risk Assessment Report, which analyzed the stability of 31 countries with investment migration programs, in the context of the COVID-19 pandemic.[1][2]
- Expand the sentence about the Feb. 2022 investment migration real estate index with a sentence about an earlier business index from Sep. 2021 (the following would replace the existing text for syntax and clarity): In September 2021, Henley & Partners, partnering with Deep Knowledge Analytics, launched the Best Residence-by-Investment Cities for Business Index, which compares and ranks 25 world cities for businesses looking to choose a headquarters location and other considerations.[3][4] The two companies partnered again in February 2022 to launch the Best Investment Migration Real Estate Index, which compares countries for those seeking a secondary residence or citizenship.[5][6]
Publications
- In the second paragraph, correct "Henley & Partners Passport Index" to "Henley Passport Index"
- Add the following to the end of that sentence: ", as well as the quarterly Global Mobility Report, which contains geopolitical analysis on trends influencing mobility patterns.[7][8]
References
- ^ Warren, Katie (24 March 2021). "The 10 most valuable passports money can buy if you want access to a country that handled the COVID-19 pandemic effectively". Business Insider.
- ^ Abbas, Waheed (23 March 2021). "UAE rated among top 10 countries by millionaires seeking health security". Khaleej Times.
- ^ ""Golden Visa" Advisory Group, Partner Launch Cities Index". Wealth Briefing. 15 September 2021.
- ^ Nair, Deepthi (15 September 2021). "Dubai ranked 11th most popular city globally for residence-by-investment programmes". The National.
- ^ Chadha, Sunainaa (9 February 2022). "Dubai takes top spot in new real estate migration index". The Times of India.
- ^ "UAE takes top spot in new global real estate index". Gulf News. 8 February 2022.
- ^ "Henley & Partners: Unpredictable Patterns of Migration Post-Covid". Finews.asia. 14 April 2021.
- ^ "Global Mobility Report 2021 Q1". www.henleyglobal.com.
Pinging 15 - thanks in advance! Sarah Nicklin (talk) 15:42, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
Major changes made without consensus
Recently, this article was overhauled in a single edit with no edit summary and no Talk page discussion. Several very significant changes were made, including summarily replacing the primary description of the company in the lead, tossing out large chunks of well-sourced consensus-based content throughout the article and adding multiple paragraphs of WP:COATRACK content framed inappropriately as criticism of the article's subject.
The impetus for these changes appears to have been the recent publication of an investigative report by the OCCRP. While the OCCRP does have editorial control and other hallmarks of good journalism, most Wikipedia editors will surely agree that it is a biased and opinionated source (see the organization's own description of itself and its mission) and thus the content it produces should be given in-text attribution and appropriate counterbalance on Wikipedia - not used to effectively override other reliable sources and treated as the final word on the subject.
I would request that the edit in question be reverted (of course, I will not do so myself due to my conflict of interest) and the changes discussed here on the Talk page first. Pinging 15 and Snooganssnoogans as a courtesy. Thank you, Sarah Nicklin (talk) 09:12, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
- (1) Editors are under no obligation to preemptively seek out the input of Henley employees before editing this page. You do not WP:OWN this page. (2) OCCRP is a clear RS. You do not do yourself any good by making false claims as to the reliability of the source. (3) Tagging editors that you've had good relations with or have an expectation of helping you is WP:CANVASSING. Snooganssnoogans (talk) 13:29, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
- I've made absolutely no attempt to assert ownership of the article, nor have I said anything to that effect. You are making significant changes on a controversial subject in an article that has been actively edited, and you should be seeking consensus for those changes first (per WP:CAREFUL rather than WP:BOLD).
- I didn't say OCCRP is unreliable. I said it's biased and opinionated, akin to many of the advocacy groups listed at WP:RSP, and therefore should require in-text attribution and should be used more minimally and with greater care.
- 15 has been the most active editor here by far over the last year, which makes it relevant to ping them in this situation. They have not shown bias toward or against the article's subject, and the fact that they have been WP:CIVIL toward me in our interactions should not be a disqualifying factor and certainly does not count as canvassing. (And in case you didn't notice, I pinged you too.)
- In any case, I do hope some other editors will weigh in here so we can get to a consensus-based version of the article rather than the current version. Sarah Nicklin (talk) 15:45, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
- There are some good additions (eg. recent OCCRP reporting, St Kitts and Nevis passports) and some unexplained removals and changes, particularly wrt the lead--barring an explanation of changes falling in the latter category, I will undo those later. 15 (talk) 17:03, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
- I am looking at this page following a request by Sarah Nicklin. I have read through the diff, and thought the lead changes were a significant shift in tone that moved it away from being a summary of the existing article by focus on the single new source. Given 15 saw a similar issue, I have reverted this. On the source and body text, I am not sure the source needs that specific handling, however there are potential tone and BLP issues in the new body text, and some areas where text was removed without explanation. I have made some changes there, restoring removals and removing the list of specific individuals, but have not gone through the other text. CMD (talk) 14:21, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
- The new changes distort what reliable sources say about the company, include WP:OR about the greatness of the company that borders on advertisement (including claims that the company is responsible for massive GDP growth in the Caribbean when the cited source does not mention Henley and specifically mentions tourism), highlights the company's philanthropy in the lead when it just amounts to a $1 million donation (reported in a source of questionable RS status), and removes high-quality RS content about the company's clients under mistaken pretense that it amounts to BLP violations. All in all, an extraordinarily bad set of edits that were the result of a COI-account's WP:CANVASSing and which have turned the article into a NPOV-violating advertisement for the company that highlights the greatness of the company, obscures the company's practices under confusing language and surgically removes RS content about the company's controversial practices. The pre-canvassed version should be restored and if the COI account wants community input on the content, it should use regular untainted processes to do so (e.g. RFCs, 3O, NPOV noticeboard). Thenightaway (talk) 14:31, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
- No new changes have been made. That said, it's good to see explanations for the edits. Not sure being described as creating the citizenship planning industry is a mark of greatness. The tiny philanthropy sentence probably can go as pretty meaningless. I don't think the text suggests the company is responsible for the GDP changes. The list of specific named individuals does not add encyclopaedic information here. CMD (talk) 14:46, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
- Seems encyclopedic to cover, as RS do, that the company is helping money launderers, fraudsters and sanctions evaders to obtain passports and obscuring its role in doing so. That's precisely why the company's practices are so controversial in the first place. Thenightaway (talk) 14:52, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
- No new changes have been made. That said, it's good to see explanations for the edits. Not sure being described as creating the citizenship planning industry is a mark of greatness. The tiny philanthropy sentence probably can go as pretty meaningless. I don't think the text suggests the company is responsible for the GDP changes. The list of specific named individuals does not add encyclopaedic information here. CMD (talk) 14:46, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
- The new changes distort what reliable sources say about the company, include WP:OR about the greatness of the company that borders on advertisement (including claims that the company is responsible for massive GDP growth in the Caribbean when the cited source does not mention Henley and specifically mentions tourism), highlights the company's philanthropy in the lead when it just amounts to a $1 million donation (reported in a source of questionable RS status), and removes high-quality RS content about the company's clients under mistaken pretense that it amounts to BLP violations. All in all, an extraordinarily bad set of edits that were the result of a COI-account's WP:CANVASSing and which have turned the article into a NPOV-violating advertisement for the company that highlights the greatness of the company, obscures the company's practices under confusing language and surgically removes RS content about the company's controversial practices. The pre-canvassed version should be restored and if the COI account wants community input on the content, it should use regular untainted processes to do so (e.g. RFCs, 3O, NPOV noticeboard). Thenightaway (talk) 14:31, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
- I am looking at this page following a request by Sarah Nicklin. I have read through the diff, and thought the lead changes were a significant shift in tone that moved it away from being a summary of the existing article by focus on the single new source. Given 15 saw a similar issue, I have reverted this. On the source and body text, I am not sure the source needs that specific handling, however there are potential tone and BLP issues in the new body text, and some areas where text was removed without explanation. I have made some changes there, restoring removals and removing the list of specific individuals, but have not gone through the other text. CMD (talk) 14:21, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
- There are some good additions (eg. recent OCCRP reporting, St Kitts and Nevis passports) and some unexplained removals and changes, particularly wrt the lead--barring an explanation of changes falling in the latter category, I will undo those later. 15 (talk) 17:03, 26 March 2022 (UTC)