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Old discussions
The following discussions are more than 7 days old and are pending processing by an administrator:
June 30
File:AEW Blackpool.jpg
- File:AEW Blackpool.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Vjmlhds ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Support deletion—uploader has tagged this image as {{PD-textlogo}}. I do not believe that the image is below the threshold of originality. Orphaned, so would fail WP:F5 if relicensed to nonfree. HouseBlastertalk 00:47, 30 June 2022 (UTC) See below for new !vote HouseBlastertalk 21:09, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
- @HouseBlaster: short lines of text, regardless of the font/method of production, do not meet TOO. There may be other protections (such as trademarks and signatures), but it cannot be copyrighted. Buffs (talk) 18:18, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
- Keep Appropriately tagged.
Certainly could beNow used on Blackpool Combat Club. Buffs (talk) 18:18, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Buffs: Personally, I see more than just text in the image—there are bits of "blood" that seem to add to the image to the point it is no longer simply BCC written in fancy letters. Given that the file is now in use, I would change my !vote to relicense to nonfree. HouseBlastertalk 21:09, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
- Even those bits as stray marks cannot help it attain copyright. It is no different than stray marks on a signature (which also cannot be copyrighted). Think of it this way: if intentional marks on a design in this manner don't help it attain copyright, why would sloppiness help it attain copyright? Buffs (talk) 15:07, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Buffs: Personally, I see more than just text in the image—there are bits of "blood" that seem to add to the image to the point it is no longer simply BCC written in fancy letters. Given that the file is now in use, I would change my !vote to relicense to nonfree. HouseBlastertalk 21:09, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
File:Dolly Parton - I Will Always Love You.ogg
- File:Dolly Parton - I Will Always Love You.ogg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Sauloviegas ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Even with critical commentary (be it one portion of an article or the whole article), I'm still concerned about the de-PRODded sample's ability to help readers understand the song (as a whole). I hear just the chorus/refrain portion, but I think it makes readers more curious about what the full song sounds like and drives readers into seeking a full song. When listeners hears the verses not heard in the sample, they will eventually grasp and realize what the full song is about and what it describes. George Ho (talk) 23:52, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
- Keep There is enough sourced critical commentary in the article to justify the sample's inclusion there thereby passing WP:NFCC#8. The nominator even states that there is critical commentary, nullifying this nomination. Aspects (talk) 18:36, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
For older nominations, see the archives.
Discussions approaching conclusion
Discussions with at least 6 full days since nomination. After 7 days, they may be closed.
July 1
File:Brigadier-General David Neo.jpg
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the media below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the media's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 13:10, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
- File:Brigadier-General David Neo.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by SuperWIKI ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
The individual is not deceased and fails the non-free rationale. The clause "or where access would for practical purposes be impossible" does not apply here as the individual is a public figure and someone can always take a photo of him. Seloloving (talk) 11:16, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
- Delete Concur with nom. Fails NFCC: Commons:Copyright_rules_by_territory/Singapore Buffs (talk) 20:15, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
- Delete: per nom. Singapore government also has no free to use policy generally. – robertsky (talk) 09:14, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
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Recent nominations
July 2
File:Medication injection.jpg
- File:Medication injection.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Ikeaj ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
The uploader claims that this image is public domain as a work of the United States Geological Survey, but the author is the seemingly unrelated "Studio Michal", and the source is a dead link to a website with no apparent connection to the USGS. Whoever the actual author is, it doesn't appear to be the USGS, meaning we have no actual evidence that this image is public domain. TheCatalyst31 Reaction•Creation 22:40, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
- Delete, orphaned with questionable licensing. Salavat (talk) 03:32, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- Delete, no evidence to support PD claim, unused. While encyclopedic, if could be replaced and fails NFCC as well. Buffs (talk) 01:59, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
July 3
File:Railway Tie Association Logo.jpg
- File:Railway Tie Association Logo.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Singinginmycar ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Pretty sure the tree puts this logo above the threshold of originality. Putting it here for discussion as it is also used outside the article space. Ixfd64 (talk) 19:09, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- Relicense to non-free logo and add a fair use. Salavat (talk) 00:31, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
- Relicense/or... The RTA has been around in that name since 1932. I can find no specific mention in the copyright or trademark offices for "railway tie association", but it is a reasonable guess that the logo predates the cutoff dates necessary to retain copyright. That said, even if it is copyrighted and/or this is a more recent creation, a FUR would be appropriate in the parent article as the identifying logo of the organization. Absent any clarification, the latter is the appropriate option. Buffs (talk) 02:10, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
July 4
File:2022 Maurice Revello Tournament poster.jpg
- File:2022 Maurice Revello Tournament poster.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Pnslotero ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Invalid fair use, as it's not the logo of the event, but is a poster which includes 12 other team logos, all of which are presumably copyrighted. If the tournament had a specific logo, then this should be uploaded and used instead (as a valid fair use), otherwise this should be deleted and not replaced with any other image Joseph2302 (talk) 14:54, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
- I notice that other seasons of this tournament have similar posters on their articles, but that isn't a valid reason to keep this one- in fact, I believe it's a reason to delete them too. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:01, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
- The FUR seems to be a good-faith attempt to choose what would be most appropriate. I wouldn't fault them for that. Likewise, you presume that the logos in question are in fact copyrighted, but have provided no evidence. Please keep me apprised if you nominate future posters as I'd like to see where it goes. Buffs (talk) 02:44, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- Logos, along with everything else, should be assumed copyrighted unless it's explicitly clear that they are not. So for each of the 12 team logos, the copyright belongs to the associated football association (e.g. French Football Federation for France), and using the logo on the 2022 Maurice Revello Tournament article is not a valid fair use for that logo. If there were a poster without the copyrighted team logos, then it wouldn't be as much of a problem. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:35, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
- The FUR seems to be a good-faith attempt to choose what would be most appropriate. I wouldn't fault them for that. Likewise, you presume that the logos in question are in fact copyrighted, but have provided no evidence. Please keep me apprised if you nominate future posters as I'd like to see where it goes. Buffs (talk) 02:44, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- Keep The official poster makes sense as a lead image. If a single logo were available, it would be more appropriate. As one does not exist, the official poster for the tournament is as sufficient and appropriate as the movie poster for Top Gun: Maverick as the lead image (just an example, though you could certainly use any movie for a similar example). The fact that certain logos are incorporated is not relevant unless public domain is being asserted (it isn't). Buffs (talk) 02:44, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- Keep - This is a poster for this specific event, and as an item used to advertise the event, it fits the purpose of visual identification for the article about this year's instance of the tournament. I have fixed the copyright tag to identify this as a poster and not a symbol. -- Whpq (talk) 03:03, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- It includes copyrighted team logos though, and this article isn't a valid fair use of the team's logos. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:35, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
- The poster as a whole incorporates these logos as part of the branding for the entire tournament identifying these teams as participants. That does not violate WP:NFCC#3a. Whpq (talk) 17:15, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
- It includes copyrighted team logos though, and this article isn't a valid fair use of the team's logos. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:35, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
File:Barry Mitchell WHITE TEETH GRIN at anchor desk 10-24-2021.jpeg
- File:Barry Mitchell WHITE TEETH GRIN at anchor desk 10-24-2021.jpeg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Xspace ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Asserted to be own work, but this look like a publicity photo. It has appeared as part of a collage of publicity photos. VRT confirmation would be required. Whpq (talk) 18:44, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
- Delete as copyvio without evidence uploader owns the copyright. Buffs (talk) 02:59, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
July 5
File:Green State Bedroom.jpg
- File:Green State Bedroom.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Ceoil ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Free alternatives have since been made available. File:Holkham Hall 20080717-09.jpg is a fairly good example. Ixfd64 (talk) 01:05, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- Delete Free alternatives exist and thereby fails NFCC. Buffs (talk) 03:00, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- Delete No longer being used on wikipedia (replace with free alternative noted above). Kiran_891 (TALK) 11:29, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
- Delete Per above. Ceoil (talk) 19:04, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
File:Mumbrasunset.JPG
- File:Mumbrasunset.JPG (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Samiazmi ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Poor quality picture; mostly dark and can't explain subject at all. Kiran_891 (TALK) 12:24, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
File:Mumbra sunset.jpg
- File:Mumbra sunset.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Samiazmi ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Poor quality picture; mostly dark and can't explain subject at all. Kiran_891 (TALK) 12:24, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
File:James Wylder.jpg
- File:James Wylder.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by KnowledgeMeansEverything ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
This is a non-free photo of a living person and could be replaced with a free image. gobonobo + c 18:38, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
File:Tarleton Gillespie CU.jpg
- File:Tarleton Gillespie CU.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Leobag ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Low-res (though not by any means bad) image with no stated source that appears to be a staff profile picture from the subject's employer (Cornell University, the "CU" in the title, presumably). Uploader made three edits ever: uploading this file, adding it to the subject's page, and one other unrelated edit to that page. —Collint c 21:25, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
July 6
File:Orange Vimto.jpg
- File:Orange Vimto.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by J.Spudeman ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Design on packaging is above the threshold of originality. Image is not used anywhere. Ixfd64 (talk) 20:33, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
- Delete but not because of TOO. Unused, unencyclopedic, low quality (blurry). The fact that the label is present is de minimis for purposes of this photo. Buffs (talk) 19:13, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
File:Origin graphs.png
- File:Origin graphs.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Accountuserid ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Unused screenshot of non-free software. Probably doesn't qualify for fair use because Origin (data analysis software) already contains a non-free image. Ixfd64 (talk) 20:36, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
July 7
File:Pratyush Kumar Vikky.jpg
- File:Pratyush Kumar Vikky.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Xavi09422 ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Orphaned user photo, contributor has not edited in seven years. No foreseeable encyclopedic use. ✗plicit 10:43, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
- keep now in use on his user page. I see no reason to delete it even if the contributor is on hiatus. Buffs (talk) 19:16, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
File:All Summer Long Beach Boys 28 Sec.ogg
- File:All Summer Long Beach Boys 28 Sec.ogg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by rfc1394 ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
All Summer Long (The Beach Boys song) is 126 seconds long, yet the sample is more than ten percent of the song's runtime, even when it is 30 seconds, exceeding the limits of MOS:SAMPLE and WP:NFCC#3b. I don't know which segment in 12.6 seconds can help readers understand the song (as a whole). Also, it's used in both the album and song articles, and I'm worried about the excessive use of the sample. Furthermore, I'm concerned about the sample's potential commercial value, regardless of its quality. Major music websites, like Amazon, hold samples of the song. George Ho (talk) 20:18, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
- Keep, but trim down the length I recognized the tune immediately. Even the first 4-6 seconds would be sufficient to meet MOS:SAMPLE and NFCC including WP:NFCC#3b. Otherwise, delete it. It fails our criteria. Buffs (talk) 23:34, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
July 8
File:WZTV-DT2 Logo.svg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted as G7 by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 03:02, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
- File:WZTV-DT2 Logo.svg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Mrschimpf ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Speedy delete: Poor quality image. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 00:21, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
- Comment It looked fine on the computer I drafted it on, but something happened during processing. Will try again. Nate • (chatter) 00:22, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
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File:Malik Poster2.jpg
- File:Malik Poster2.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by David George Antony ( | contribs | uploads | upload log).
Unused film poster, no evidence uploader is the copyright holder. Ixfd64 (talk) 21:23, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
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