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2022 San Antonio trailer deaths
Fifty-three migrants are found dead in a tractor-trailer
is highly suspect. Firstly the figure of 53 is unreferenced, and does not appear in the body of the article. Sources are clear that the number found in the trailer was 46, though at least four have died subsequently from their injuries. I raised this yesterday on the talk page, but so far without reponse. Davidships (talk) 11:31, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Davidships: Added a source to the article. Anarchyte (talk) 11:58, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
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Today's OTD
- International Date Line - A driveby went and switched this article in just before it went into protection, so a mostly unsourced article is there now Bumbubookworm (talk) 03:27, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- This comment may come across as more violent than intended: wikt:drive-by Joofjoof (talk) 12:26, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- To address the sourcing, it may be better to adjust the target to Samoan Islands since the entire archipelago changed: Joofjoof (talk) 12:29, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
The Samoan Islands change the International Date Line, causing Monday (July 4) to occur twice, resulting in a year with 367 days.
- Unfortunately both articles that Joofjoof inserted at the last minute/suggested have vast swathes of unsourced content, only the tense was changed by another admin Bumbubookworm (talk) 06:14, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
- Replaced International Date Line with Crab Nebula Schwede66 08:09, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
- Unfortunately both articles that Joofjoof inserted at the last minute/suggested have vast swathes of unsourced content, only the tense was changed by another admin Bumbubookworm (talk) 06:14, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
- Independence_Day_(United_States)#Customs half-unsourced Bumbubookworm (talk) 05:55, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- That has resolved itself; references have been added. Schwede66 04:06, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, someone just removed the tag. Half the section is still unsourced Bumbubookworm (talk) 06:14, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
- Ah, sorry. You are right. I did cast my eye over the edit history but I must have seen something that didn't in fact happen. I'll remove that article from the homepage. Schwede66 07:56, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for your work Bumbubookworm (talk) 08:17, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
- Thank your for your regular Error reports, Bumbubookworm. Schwede66 09:13, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for your work Bumbubookworm (talk) 08:17, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
- Ah, sorry. You are right. I did cast my eye over the edit history but I must have seen something that didn't in fact happen. I'll remove that article from the homepage. Schwede66 07:56, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, someone just removed the tag. Half the section is still unsourced Bumbubookworm (talk) 06:14, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
- It seems weird that this is missing, it really should be added back, given that it is a major holiday in the US. I've removed the unsourced paragraphs. --RockstoneSend me a message! 19:00, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
- That has resolved itself; references have been added. Schwede66 04:06, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
- 1982 kidnapping of Iranian diplomats - the article states that those kidnapped were three diplomats and a journalist, rather than four diplomats. But it then muddies the waters somewhat by continually referring to the four as 'the diplomats', including in the article title, making large parts of it unclear whether it is referring to just the three diplomats, or to journalist Kazem Akhavan as well. Either way, the OTD statement "Four Iranian diplomats were kidnapped" may be wrong, unless Akhavan was also a diplomat as well as a journalist, something the article makes no comment on. Spokoyni (talk) 11:09, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
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Errors in the summary of the featured list
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Today's POTD
Should be No. 43, not #43. Primergrey (talk) 15:28, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
Tomorrow's POTD
General discussion
Bombing of Hamburg and the main page
This media file was originally pulled because of article neutrality issues in 2015 (See here). The article is much better now according to a discussion here, albeit not perfect; however, that means we now need to consider the video. First of all, this is propaganda, and somewhat obviously so, but, as such, it's downplaying and sanitising things pretty severely. This was a horrifying, brutal firebombing that destroyed whole districts of Hamburg, and killed a lot of civilians. Compare this video to, say:
So I suppose the question is: Would putting this on the main page, with a paragraph or two to provide context, advance our educational goals, or is it simply too misleading to be able to be used in an encyclopedic manner outwith articles? Can we mitigate issues? Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 7.9% of all FPs 00:59, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
- Well, I've read a book on the bombing of Dresden in World War II and it was a most sobering piece of literature. The video is, as you say, propaganda. But propaganda and war are bed-fellows. In my view, if we balanced the propaganda video with a decent write-up based on the (now arguably reasonably well-written) article, that should meet our educational goals. War is disgusting business and if you are at the receiving end of it, you know all about it. Propaganda tries to justify the actions. If we present this juxtaposition well, while still shocking, it does have educational value. And I suppose you are thinking of running this on the anniversary date of the firestorm (27 July attack just before midnight; firestorm on 28 July), maybe we could balance this further by showing the photo (or a similar one in the same set which is a better crop) in the 'On this day' section. Schwede66 04:01, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
- I'd say the potential writeup made in the 2015 discussion is better than what we originally had. -BRAINULATOR9 (TALK) 01:26, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
- Think I'll start by nominating that photo I mentioned on FPC. If we can get something to pair it with, it'll probably help matters. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 7.9% of all FPs 19:50, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
- I have an unrelated different question. Does a 240p scan of such poor quality print meet PotD's quality standards? ApLundell (talk) 07:27, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
- @ApLundell: Video is hard to judge, especially video featured in 2007, back in the days where the maximum upload size was quite low. There's a reason why we try to feature FPs in order. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 7.9% of all FPs 08:13, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
- Does anyone know whether or if a better version can be found, given that the video was uploaded back in 2005? -BRAINULATOR9 (TALK) 15:15, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
- @ApLundell: Video is hard to judge, especially video featured in 2007, back in the days where the maximum upload size was quite low. There's a reason why we try to feature FPs in order. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 7.9% of all FPs 08:13, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
2022 draft blurb
This US newsreel from August 1943 covering the Allied bombing of Hamburg, Germany, in World War II, by the United States’ Eighth Air Force is a typical example of wartime news broadcasts used as propaganda. One of these bombing missions, code-named Operation Gomorrah, was flown over a period of eight days between 24 July and 3 August 1943. Initial missions saw the use of blockbuster and delay-action bombs and the introduction of new countermeasures against anti-aircraft guns. On the 27/28 July raid carried out by the Royal Air Force, concentrated bombing created a firestorm that incinerated more than 21 square kilometres (8 sq mi) of the city. Overall, Operation Gomorrah bombings killed 37,000 civilians and destroyed much of the city.
The clip states that Hamburg is "Germany's principal seaport and number-one war center" and that the bombing caused "devastation of war plants". The reel is silent on the deliberate destruction of entire residential neighbourhoods. The effectiveness of the Hamburg raid had relied on careful research on how best to cause a large fire in a German city – as opposed to the popular view that it was an accidental occurrence due to unusually dry weather conditions.
- A "was" is missing" in the final sentence. Jmchutchinson (talk) 17:22, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
- Added. Thanks. Schwede66 17:44, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
- It looks pretty good to me. I think the only real objection might be whether people accuse the last bit of Original Research or Synthesis. My inclination is it's fine in this case - statement of simple facts, all of which are in the article - but directed towards the video that forms the subject. Any objections? Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 7.9% of all FPs 00:43, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
- None here. -BRAINULATOR9 (TALK) 15:07, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
- Looks like the other image is going to pass. @Brainulator9, Schwede66, and Jmchutchinson:: Think we should put them together as a pair of images? Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 7.9% of all FPs 02:00, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
- None here. -BRAINULATOR9 (TALK) 15:07, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
- It looks pretty good to me. I think the only real objection might be whether people accuse the last bit of Original Research or Synthesis. My inclination is it's fine in this case - statement of simple facts, all of which are in the article - but directed towards the video that forms the subject. Any objections? Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 7.9% of all FPs 00:43, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
- Added. Thanks. Schwede66 17:44, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
- Okay. I'm setting this up on 27 July 2023 (80th anniversary of the event) as a double image. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 7.9% of all FPs
- Template:POTD/2023-07-27. @Schwede66, Brainulator9, and Jmchutchinson: Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 7.9% of all FPs 23:10, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- Hmm... I'd personally put the two files together horizontally rather than vertically, but whatever works. Hopefully by then, we can find a higher-quality version of that newsreel, not that it should matter. -BRAINULATOR9 (TALK) 01:11, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
- They actually might be horizontal by the time it reaches the main page. Formatting changes abruptly. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 7.9% of all FPs 03:11, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
- In the credits at the bottom, "(Fg Off)" might helpfully be wikilinked to Flying officer. It was not an abbreviation that I knew. Jmchutchinson (talk) 11:51, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Jmchutchinson: Done! Thanks for the suggestion. Honestly, thanks to all of you, especially Schwede who drafted the blurb; I don't think I could have done this anywhere near as well on my own. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 7.9% of all FPs 14:39, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
- Hmm... I'd personally put the two files together horizontally rather than vertically, but whatever works. Hopefully by then, we can find a higher-quality version of that newsreel, not that it should matter. -BRAINULATOR9 (TALK) 01:11, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
The Spliting of Papua and The News Section of The Main Page
A few hours ago the "DPR" indonesia's lower house of the national legislature, voted to split the province of papua into three provinces, South Papua, Middle Papua, And Mountanious Papua. So the question is: How could i add this to the main page's news section, and is it important under wikipidia's guidlines. I have so much more questions to ask sincerly yours Makerman 88
Refrences
Further Reading (Just to get the sence of the situation in papua)
- BBC Indonesia's article about tribal divide in the province of Papua
- Another BBC Article on how the new provinces will be under prepared.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Makerman88 (talk • contribs)
- Please follow the instructions at Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates to nominate an article. There needs to be a high quality update to an article (probably Papua (province)) which covers the split — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:38, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
Harry S. Truman
I don't think it makes much sense to say that he "contested the presidency" when he literally was the president. He was running for re-election, not challenging someone in the primary. PoliticallyPassionateGamer (talk) 14:09, 4 July 2022 (UTC)