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Talk page of locally deleted file that contains no discussions. Tagged with {{G8-exempt}} and not eligible for speedy deletion. See Wikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion/Archive 81#File talk pages which consist only of boilerplates, wikiproject tags, and/or text which has been copied to Commons. Ixfd64 (talk) 20:31, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
- Delete There is no reason to tag a page with G8-exempt if it doesn't contain anything. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 20:40, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
- "It doesn't contain anything" is patently false. It contains a WikiProject banner. Were they consulted? We've long held that WikiProjects alone are to be the arbiter of what's appropriate to a WP. We're now saying that other project areas are entitled to exercise unilateral veto power on account of their local consensus? Sounds like a hijacking to me. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 21:20, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
- I don't think the statement
We've long held that WikiProjects alone are to be the arbiter of what's appropriate to a WP.
is totally accurate. WikiProjects can, for sure, provide valuable guidance when it comes to sorting out issues, but a consensus achieved at a WikiProject is also a local consensus and it can't supersede a community consensus. Is there's any value to keeping this talk page other than it has a WikirRoject banner on it? The {{G8-exempt}} template was added by Miniapolis back in 2015 and maybe there was a reason for doing so back then that no longer applies. File talk pages (even ones tagged with G8-exempt) often end up deleted when the corresponding file is deleted if the reviewing admin feels there's no value to keeping the talk page. This file was originally uploaded as non-free content, but it was deleted per WP:F8 by Miniapolis after the file was moved to Commons in 2015. I've posted a {{Please see}} about this discussion on Miniapolis's user talk page; perhaps they will comment and help clarify things. -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:59, 30 June 2022 (UTC)- Thanks for the ping, Marchjuly. I used to delete pages like this until I was told in no uncertain terms by Diannaa that, according to WP:G8 (which is policy), they should be kept. The project tag was placed in 2008 by Roswell native, who hasn't edited here since late last year. I don't see why pages like this need to be kept, and it may be time to open a discussion at WP:VPP. All the best, Miniapolis 23:40, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
- The policy states "This criterion excludes any page that is useful to Wikipedia, and in particular: [among other things] Talk pages for files that exist on Wikimedia Commons" and that's what this talk page is. So policy states that it should be kept. — Diannaa (talk) 00:28, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
- I don't think the statement
- "It doesn't contain anything" is patently false. It contains a WikiProject banner. Were they consulted? We've long held that WikiProjects alone are to be the arbiter of what's appropriate to a WP. We're now saying that other project areas are entitled to exercise unilateral veto power on account of their local consensus? Sounds like a hijacking to me. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 21:20, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
- Keep per Diannaa's and Miniapolis's comments above. While its encyclopedic value seem sketchy, WP:G8 does list this file talk page as a type of page that qualifies for {{G8-exempt}}; so, there's not a strong policy based reason for deleting the page even via MfD, unless someone wants to try and argue WP:IAR should be applied in this particular case. Although I don't agree that nominating the page for deletion here at MfD qualifies as a kind of "hijacking" in any way, the consensus to keep pages such as this is a community one that appears to be well established. Of course, there's always WP:CCC, but that should be something discussed at WT:CSD, [:WT:DELETE]] or even WP:VPP. For reference, a previous attempt to do such a thing at WT:CSD#Proposal: expand F2 to cover certain file talk pages did not establish a new consensus for any such change. -- Marchjuly (talk) 22:44, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
- Delete Looks like a bit touched F8 IIRC. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 03:30, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
- Weak Keep as per User:Diannaa and User:Miniapolis. Robert McClenon (talk) 00:12, 3 July 2022 (UTC)