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July 2
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on July 2, 2022.
Nasir Greer
- Nasir Greer → Nasir Greer (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
No need to link to either itself or to a single year page for his college. Should wait until relevant to be created. Debartolo2917 (talk) 23:21, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
- I’m not sure why but the nominator decided to change the original redirect target of 2018 Wake Forest Demon Deacons football team to have this redirect to itself. Since I haven’t seen good reason to have do so I have retargted it back to thr original target. I have no opinion of whether or not it should be deleted though.--70.24.248.109 (talk) 00:05, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- Turn into article, person is actively on the Kansas City Chiefs and IMO has sufficient coverage to warrant an article ([1] [2] [3] [4]). BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:42, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- Delete without prejudice to an article being created. Current target (by which I mean 2018 Wake Forest Demon Deacons football team) clearly not suitable since he is now mentioned in multiple places, and a redlink on Kansas City Chiefs#Current roster would likely encourage article creation (WP:RFD#D10). A7V2 (talk) 02:13, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:REDYES and A7V2; no prejudice against article creation. Note: a redirect should never be made to target itself, but it is also unhelpful/confusing to retarget a redirect during an RfD discussion, even to correct an obvious error. Mdewman6 (talk) 19:30, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
Potential Tropical Cyclone Nine
- Potential Tropical Cyclone Nine → Hurricane Isaias (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
- Potential Tropical Cyclone Three (2021) → Tropical Storm Claudette (2021) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
Per recent precedent of deleting Potential Tropical Cyclone Two, we shouldn’t have a redirect of a PTC when the storm developed. 47.23.40.14 (talk) 23:08, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
- Delete PTC Nine since it's ambiguous and can refer to any storm, but keep PTC Three as it includes the year which makes it unambiguous and harmless. N.b., Just wanted to note that I took the liberty of bundling both redirects nominated by the same IP, and also arranged nomination in chronological order. CycloneYoris talk! 01:40, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
Jesse Rice
- Jesse Rice → Cruise (song) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
Not the only work this person is known for, but doesn't seem notable enough for a standalone article. Also seems to be subject to edit warring. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 21:19, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
- Keep This was created in response to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jesse Rice (3rd nomination), which was based on the negation of your statement, that this is the only notable topic associated with this person. No counterargument has been offered, based on reliable sources, that there is another wiki-notable topic connected ot this person or that Rice himself meets GNG. I see only an incident in February 2018 where a spam user overwrote with a copyvio, and one case in February 2022 where the user Snix2104 (talk · contribs) created an unreferenced BLP on top of the redirect. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄)
- I agree, even if the edit waring issue was more frequent blocks or protection of the redirect makes much more sense than deletion.--70.24.248.109 (talk) 00:12, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- Keep Keeping the redirect is cheap, and presumably as one of the writers of the biggest songs in US means that he would always be of some interest as a search item. There are also sources on his other works, so can't say that he is completely non-notable. Hzh (talk) 07:52, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
User:Londonmedialog1
- User:Londonmedialog1 → Alice Thomson (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
Unnecessary redir from user page to an article (Alice Thomson) created by the user, presumably left behind when moving content from user name space to main article space. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 19:15, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
- Blank. This can be done boldly without taking it to RFD. Neocorelight (Talk) 01:00, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- Comment the editor should be reminded not to use their userpage as a sandbox, as that is not the purpose of the base userpage, and instead use a subpage. -- 64.229.88.43 (talk) 02:55, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
- Blank is usually what's done in these situations. Mdewman6 (talk) 19:21, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
Shi Hao
- Shi Hao → Posthumous name (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
There is not a clear connection between "Shi Hao" and Posthumous name as far as I can see by Googling. There is Shi Hao (bobsledder) who is a living person. This mixup caused this page to be tagged as an attack page but I'm sending it to RFD in case there is some connection between the page name and the target that has been missed here. This redirect has existed for quite a few years without challenges so perhaps there is something here that we are not seeing. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 18:59, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
Shi Hao is a living person (bobsledder). There is no reason in either the Shi Hao (bobsledder) article for this redirect. There is also no reason in the Posthumous Name article. Sorry for mispellings and any mistakes in the wiki code. Neurogeek (talk) 18:52, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
(This is a duplicate nomination but concerns the same page) Liz Read! Talk! 19:01, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
- Obviously it's not an attack page for Shi Hao (bobsledder) because the redirect was created in 2002 (wow, 20 years old!), when the bobsledder was just 5 years old. 49.198.51.54 (talk) 21:07, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
- Comment - Shihao (諡號; shì hào) is a Chinese term that means posthumous name and title - [5]. Hzh (talk) 22:42, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
- Disambiguate It's apparent to me that the primary topic was the Chinese term for posthumous names until the bobsledder became active later on. Since the term stopped being the primary topic, a disambiguation page may be warranted. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 05:04, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- Keep. This is the transliteration of "谥号", which is given in the infobox at Posthumous name as the Chinese term for the concept. This is probably the primary topic over the bobsledder. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 07:11, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- Keep per above although a person that is versed in the Chinese language might want to expand Posthumous_name#China to discuss said them might be the better solution. --Lenticel (talk) 12:35, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- Comment Worth noting that this term is already mentioned in the Template:Infobox Chinese at the target. The fact that the template autocollapses the transcriptions sections even when there's only one transcription is rather silly: doing so doesn't save any vertical space at all, but hides the mention of the transcription from readers who try to Ctrl+F to find the mention of their search term and end up with nothing. This problem has come up at multiple RfDs. 61.239.39.90 (talk) 02:19, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
Chamblee Dominos hostage incident
- Chamblee Dominos hostage incident → The Noid#The Noid hostage incident (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
Should be deleted because the same redirect with better grammar exists (Chamblee Domino’s hostage incident) Somewhereattheendofspace (talk) 14:49, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
- Keep: Redirects are CHEAP and it seems like a very plausible search term to me. TartarTorte 16:34, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
- Actually now I see that the nominated one is the only one that shows up when you try to type it in. Somewhereattheendofspace (talk) 19:15, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Somewhereattheendofspace I thought that Chamblee Domino’s hostage incident might have not been popping up because it has a smart quote in it, but I created Chamblee Domino's hostage incident which also doesn't show up in search. Search can be very weird. TartarTorte 19:55, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
- Actually now I see that the nominated one is the only one that shows up when you try to type it in. Somewhereattheendofspace (talk) 19:15, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
Owlsley
- Owlsley → Florida Atlantic Owls#Traditions (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
Retarget to Owsley: at Wikipedia:Articles for creation/Redirects and categories#Redirect request: Owlsley, several editors (myself, Binksternet, and 49.198.51.54) discussed CrownKing0wl's request to created Owlsley as a redirect to Florida Atlantic Owls#Traditions. A few hours after I redirected Owlsley to Owsley per discussion and following the IP's suggestions, CrownKing0wl then re-targeted Owlsley to his favoured target (even though he was pinged to our conversation). I propose this breach of consensus be reverted. Thanks. NotReallySoroka (talk) 08:35, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
- Retarget to Owsley as discussed. Binksternet (talk) 12:26, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
- I redirected it since it is not a misspelling but a play on words of the athletic team’s name (Owls) CrownKing0wl (talk) 14:56, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
- Besides, it would be better to redirect this page to the university’s athletic teams page rather than a disambiguation page. CrownKing0wl (talk) 14:59, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
- I redirected it since it is not a misspelling but a play on words of the athletic team’s name (Owls) CrownKing0wl (talk) 14:56, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
- Retarget. I suggested the Owsley target because it's more likely to be a typo or a mishearing of an established name (try saying "Owsley" and "Owlsley"; they sound really similar) than it is to be a reference to this amateur sporting mascot. Plus, when there's been an informal discussion at AFC/R, it's not right to override the discussion just 28 minutes after the discussion ends. 49.198.51.54 (talk) 21:03, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
- Retarget per nom --Lenticel (talk) 00:28, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
- Keep at current target and add a hatnote there to Owsley. It is the only one which uses this spelling. While there does appear to be a consensus at the above-linked discussion to link to the disambiguation page, no actual reason to do so was advanced there. I don't see a compelling reason to not link to the thing that this is the correct spelling for. A7V2 (talk) 02:20, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
Conservative Resident
- Conservative Resident → Conservative Party (UK) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
Not mentioned at the target, doesn't appear to be a formal term based on internet and Google Scholar searches, as results are just about residents who are conservative in various contexts. Delete unless a justification can be provided. signed, Rosguill talk 16:36, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
- The links suggest this was a local branding used by Conservative council candidates in Croydon in the era when you could use whatever variation you felt like, possibly with some eye to the various Residents' parties that used to be more prevalent though whether this was a local merger or just a more voter friendly branding I'm not sure. Timrollpickering (talk) 18:06, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
- Yes there is quite a lot of history here. It seems to have largely been used in Croydon (where Residents candidates and Conservative Candidates where closely aligned). Quite a strong history of candidates elected as indpendents in 1964 and 1968 being re-elected as Conservatives in 1974 (Bensham Manor comes to mind). The candidates in Norbury stood as "Conservatives" in 1964 and "Conservative Residents" in 1968 - and were members of the Conservative Group on the Council for that whole time - other sources also count "Conservative Resident" candidates as Conservatives - like here from Rallings and Thrasher: http://www.electionscentre.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Croydon-1964-2010.pdf Trimfrim20 (talk) 08:34, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I believe the discussion is incomplete.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay (talk) 18:39, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
- Keep per Tim and Trimfrim. It seems to be an actually attested name for certain groups of Tories. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 22:22, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 07:41, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
Retards FC
- Retards FC → Ascension Island Football League (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
I cannot find any sources that refer to "Retard United" of the Ascension Island Football League as "Retards FC", so this seems to be an implausible search term. — Ⓜ️hawk10 (talk) 05:21, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
Speedy delete, per WP:G10 and take Retard United with it. SailingInABathTub (talk) 21:33, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
- You're right - I'll retract my contribution in favour of the redirect's fate being decided at the target's AfD. SailingInABathTub (talk) 15:56, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- Keep Name of a team in the league, will be deleted per G8 if the target is deleted at AfD. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 21:52, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. GiantSnowman 10:20, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- Delete as implausible search term. GiantSnowman 10:21, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- Weak keep per –LaundryPizza03; as a {{R from misspelling}} for the "United" form. clearly if people only remember the memorable part and forget the "U" part, searching this way is plausible. Considering the low profileness of the team, this is a possibility. -- 64.229.88.43 (talk) 02:58, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
United States Olympic national soccer team
- United States Olympic national soccer team → United States men's national under-23 soccer team (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
Olympic soccer teams, despite nominally U-23, may have up to three players who are over the age of 23. Consequently, Olympics squads are not really analogs of the U-23 squad, even though the U-23s make up the majority of the team. A redirect is then misleading. Iseult Δx parlez moi 04:02, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. S.A. Julio (talk) 04:32, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
- Redirect to United States women's national soccer team. "United States Olympic national soccer team" could refer to the men's team (which is a modified U-23), but it most likely refers to the WOMEN'S NATIONAL TEAM, which in the United States tends to get quite a bit more coverage than the men during the Olympics. There's also not quite a real article on the U.S. men's Olympic soccer teams, so I don't see a need to dabify at the moment. — Ⓜ️hawk10 (talk) 05:28, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
- Support moving the U-23 article for the men's under-23 team to the Olympic team for the aforementioned reasons by Iseult. Rylesbourne (talk) 05:34, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
- I don't think Iseult is proposing that we make a page move, given that United States Olympic national soccer team is currently a redirect. — Ⓜ️hawk10 (talk) 05:48, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
- My apologies. I would support moving the United States U-23 soccer team to the Olympic team article, because the women's senior team represents the USWNT in the Olympics. Rylesbourne (talk) 04:57, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- I don't think Iseult is proposing that we make a page move, given that United States Olympic national soccer team is currently a redirect. — Ⓜ️hawk10 (talk) 05:48, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
- Disambiguate Turn the page into a disambiguation page and put links to both the men's under-23 team and women's senior team. KingSkyLord (talk | contribs) 10:34, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
- Disambiguate - makes the most sense. GiantSnowman 10:21, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
Platty Joobs
- Platty Joobs → Platinum Jubilee of Elizabeth II (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
A quick google saw a few pages make reference to "Platty Jobs" but not to "Platty Joobs". I see some pageviews, but all in the first day, and max of one a day for the past 3+weeks. But its enough views to make me hesitate on R3 Happy Editing--IAmChaos 03:02, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
- There is literally a Daily Mail (so sorry for sharing that rag) article about the 'Joobs' nickname, and it's all over Twitter. Also spelt 'Jubes'. GiantSnowman 10:19, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- Keep per extensive coverage, including inews, Indy100, Daily Mirror, GB News, Axios, The Irish News, etc. Thryduulf (talk) 21:52, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- Keep per Thryduulf. No idea what the OP means about google since I get over 40,000 hits for the term "Platty Joobs". It was all over the place in the days leading up to the Jubilee. – filelakeshoe (t / c) 🐱 22:25, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- Keep - clearly this name has been used to refer to the Platinum Jubilee. Redirects don't need to be neutral. A7V2 (talk) 02:22, 4 July 2022 (UTC)