SMcCandlish's On the Radar
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On the Radar: An Occasional Newsletter on Wikipedia's Challenges— "Comments?" links go to OtR's own talk page, not those of the original news-item sources.
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Today's Events
June 6, 2022 |
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Thank you!
Thank you for your note on my 10th anniversary of my first edit day! Can't believe it's been 10 years. It was great to be notified about it. LovelyEdit talkedits
Your comment at BN
I genuinely don't understand what you're saying and have enough respect for your username to be interested to know what you mean. Would you mind explaining it? In my defence, I'm tired (you can probably tell... this comment is unnecessarily tangled) and it's probably obvious, so I'll apologise now! --Dweller (talk) Old fashioned is the new thing! 20:54, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Dweller: I've been carefully considering my response. I realized that a fulsome reply would involve much research into the past discussions about 'crat discretionary range that brought us here. In the interests of providing a useful answer now, I'll explain that my earlier comment pointed to the 2019 expansion of discretionary range taking adminship requests out of the hands of editors and into the hands of 'crats who can now divine the voters' intent as well as disregard votes which shouldn't count. If RfA were a pure vote 158 supports and 72 opposes is still 68.7% and we live with the math deciding. Those who make too much of adminship couldn't accept math and they pushed ever-expanding "discretionary range." The 2019 RfC was the final straw for me and I quit paying attention to RfA. Now that RfA is a political decision, the bureaucrats are thoroughly politicized, far from the boring button-pushers we as a community used to trust. Perhaps this is why they're talking now about picking someone else for that button-pushing job. Questions like how much should bureaucrats weigh re-confirmations misses the point that 'crats can just argue for their preference. There is no math involved because the entire system was compromised. I hope that helps. Chris Troutman (talk) 17:39, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
- Wow. There's a lot there. I disagree with a lot (most) of it, but I'm grateful for you taking the time to explain yourself and I didn't come here for an argument. Peace. --Dweller (talk) Old fashioned is the new thing! 19:43, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
- There is a lot there. You seem to be proposing a purely formulaic approach to deciding consensus with any consideration of strength of argument? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:52, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
- Strength of argument is fine for XfD, where you often have few comments either way. RfA's get plenty of participation. And while you might like to make or break candidates based upon particular criteria, what actually happens is a political discussion where we collectively decide which candidates will bear a huge ego inflation as they can block our accounts and delete our content. I've never had one of my votes at RfA thrown out but I'm not going to participate in a system where my input can be so easily disregarded on such a weighty matter. ARBCOM is straight vote. What good is accomplished by not allowing RfA to be a vote? Perhaps it is you, not me the misanthrope, who doesn't trust the community of your fellow editors. Chris Troutman (talk) 18:24, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
Thanks
Hey! i saw that you reviewed my page. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by DiegoonusRHF (talk • contribs) 01:01, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
A goat for you!
Great feedback showing a newbie how they're missing the mark and their relative value to the community overall. Thanks! Here's a goat.
Gawitt (talk) 21:00, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
June 2022 Good Article Nominations backlog drive
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Email?
Hi Chris, I meant to email you but saw you didn't have email enabled. Could you drop me an email to my gmail account? The gmail account name is the same as my account name here, i.e. jayen466. Best, --Andreas JN466 12:05, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
Signpost tagger
I saw you mentioned that you use this script to tag articles, which I've never heard of before. This is significantly embarrassing, since I am the co-EiC of the Signpost, so I apologize for my ignorance -- what's the deal with this thing, and how can we support your use of it? We are planning to improve some of the technical aspects of the publication, so would appreciate hearing from you. jp×g 17:51, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
- @JPxG: Thanks for asking! As to the tagger, please see my prior statement at the Newsroom and Headbomb's discussion from 2019 at the Newsroom. The tagger only works on published Signpost pieces, not drafts. Meta-tagging content makes past issues more-readily searchable by subject. Anyone can tag Signpost content once you install the code. We are caught up to current pieces but have a significant backlog in 2019-2020. Chris Troutman (talk) 18:42, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
Request to move draft intro a article page
Hey! i saw that you reviewed page Soufia Taloni Please i just finished the code source and articles in Draft:Soufia Taloni all its correct ? I will now continue to ask for upto move a draft merga a page Thanks! 160.161.232.190 (talk) 13:27, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
- I'm not interested in helping you; please stop asking. Chris Troutman (talk) 16:40, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
Reply
Hello. Just read your review. I appreciate your comment but I must say none of the reasons you gave is correct. Sorry. Regards. Iberastro (talk) 23:55, 3 June 2022 (UTC)