Sock IP
Hello GirthSummit, hope you're doing well. As you were the clerk and enforcing admin of Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Solavirum/Archive#11_May_2022, I wanted to inform you that Solavirum is still using his sock IP range even after their sockpuppetry ban (diff). Regards, ZaniGiovanni (talk) 10:58, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
- Another instance. I'm not sure if I need to open a new SPI, just letting you know as the enforcer. ZaniGiovanni (talk) 11:48, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
- Hi ZaniGiovanni - apologies, I haven't been around much over the last couple of weeks, real life is unusually busy. If it's a problem, please raise another SPI case, listing the IPs and similarities. Cheers Girth Summit (blether) 11:49, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
- I totally understand, I'm low on time myself. And no problem, I think I'll make a new SPI when time allows. I had just remembered you asked me to let you know if the IP came back (it's the same range), so I wanted to inform you first. Regards, ZaniGiovanni (talk) 10:41, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
- Hi again Girth Summit, hope all is well. I followed on your suggestion and opened a new SPI. Since then, the master (after more than a month) commented and pinged us both on their talk page [1], denying that the new IPs are them and that they haven't edited since the sock block. I found this denial extremely odd to say the least, since the range 89.219.164.0/22 (talk · contribs) edits clearly show that all the IPs come from the same sock range, including the new ones I reported, and that Solavirum actually edited with that same range again even after their sock block. I thought you should be aware of this. Regards, ZaniGiovanni (talk) 16:44, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
- Hi ZaniGiovanni, apologies for the slow response - it's getting near the end of the school year, and work is very busy at the moment. So, my problem here is that my hands are somewhat tied by the CU policy in what I can say publicly about IP addresses, when I have run checkuser on an account. I'm going to leave that report to another SPI clerk/admin to handle. In general terms, I'd say that you shouldn't give too much thought to their denials - someone who has recently been caught evading their TBan by editing through an IP is not likely to be given much credence when they claim not to have continued doing the same thing to evade a block. Girth Summit (blether) 20:21, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for your time, and good luck with your IRL responsibilities. ZaniGiovanni (talk) 01:35, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
- Hi ZaniGiovanni, apologies for the slow response - it's getting near the end of the school year, and work is very busy at the moment. So, my problem here is that my hands are somewhat tied by the CU policy in what I can say publicly about IP addresses, when I have run checkuser on an account. I'm going to leave that report to another SPI clerk/admin to handle. In general terms, I'd say that you shouldn't give too much thought to their denials - someone who has recently been caught evading their TBan by editing through an IP is not likely to be given much credence when they claim not to have continued doing the same thing to evade a block. Girth Summit (blether) 20:21, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
- Hi ZaniGiovanni - apologies, I haven't been around much over the last couple of weeks, real life is unusually busy. If it's a problem, please raise another SPI case, listing the IPs and similarities. Cheers Girth Summit (blether) 11:49, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
Apology, with a question
I just discovered that I've been blocked for "Disruptively adding findagrave pages." I ceased doing that as soon as I was asked to, but I never thought of it as disruptive. Some biographies on Wikipedia have findagrave links and some don't; I thought I was being helpful, completing incomplete pages. In any case, I apologise for having overstepped.
I was also blocked because I haven't responded to questions directed to me, but I don't recall ever seeing any, so my question is: Where do they appear?
Incidentally, I am writing today because I wanted to correct information about actor Ronald Colman (1891-1958). The name of his first wife does not agree with the name in his obituary in Variety (21 May 1958, p. 79<ref>https://archive.org/details/variety210-1958-05/page/n224/mode/1up?view=theater&q=obituary<ref>): His first wife was English actress "Thelma Victoria Maud, whom he married in 1918. They were divorced in 1936." The Wikipedia page identifies his wife as "Thelma Raye," which was one of her many surnames <ref>https://footlightnotes.tumblr.com/post/42172461451/thelma-raye-n%C3%A9e-thelma-victoria-maud-bell-morton<ref>, but not her maiden name. Since I'm blocked, a punishment I shall have to learn to live with, perhaps you want to consider the correction.
Many thanks, Irie212 (talk) 16:32, 5 June 2022 (UTC)Irene Schneider New York City Irie212 (talk) 16:32, 5 June 2022 (UTC)irie212@gmail.com
- Hi Irie212, thanks for engaging. The issues with findagrave are described at WP:FINDAGRAVE-EL. The messages I left you about this were on your user talk page, at User talk:Irie212. Since you are now aware of the issue, and you're willing to stop adding them, I'll unblock your account. Thanks and regards, Girth Summit (blether) 05:30, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
Sockpuppet query
Hello, Girth Summit,
I just deleted some draft pages and blocked a couple of users who were creating pages about Abdur Rahman, a YouTuber, but I don't remember the exact name of the SPI case. There also seemed to be some overlap in participation of editors identified as sockpuppets in Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Julian Lawrence Hall which you handled a few days ago. I just like to report these incidents to a checkuser who is involved in SPI cases in case some reporting needs to be done. Liz Read! Talk! 06:35, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
- SPI open at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Gamer10101, should probably be merged with Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Abdur9470. Pikavoom Talk 07:19, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for your note, Liz, and for yours Pikavoom, and apologies for the delay - the end of the school year is approaching, and things are pretty busy at work. I've investigated the Gamer10101 case, and been able to confirm a bunch of those socks. Girth Summit (blether) 20:12, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
I wish to be an administrator and check user
Hi. I wish to be an administrator and check user. I always edit regularly and I won't block the wrong user. If I'm a check user, I will not assume that someone is a sockpuppet.Thanks Train and unicorn fan🦄🚆 talk 09:16, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
- I'll leave this here so you don't have to look at history to see it and in case you wish to look for other accounts.--Bbb23 (talk) 10:36, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
- Aww, I like unicorns, just not those wearing dirty socks.):-( --ARoseWolf 13:55, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks Bbb23 - looks like someone else noticed them first. Girth Summit (blether) 19:27, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
SPI
I'm new to this sockpuppet investigations thing, so could you please help me be a better evidence finder? What do I need to do? NASCARfan0548 ↗ 17:40, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
- Did you read Blablubb's guide, which I linked to at the SPI? That has some good advice. We're looking for diffs, not just a link to an account or an IP adress and you saying 'they are doing the same thing' - show us that they're doing the same thing, give us diffs that the sockmaster or previous socks performed, and similar ones that the IP performed. Girth Summit (blether) 17:43, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
- OK, thanks! NASCARfan0548 ↗ 17:45, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
NickJr Fanon2021 SPI
Not sure if it's worth a new request given the one that was just closed, but they already seem to be back at 64ZooLaneFan22: similar username styling/format and even same editing on Little Charley Bear (see [2] vs. [3]). Personally I don't see a reason to request this in the SPI, especially given how obvious it is with that evidence. Thanks in advance. Magitroopa (talk) 08:06, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks; blocked. Girth Summit (blether) 10:00, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
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- So I see. I would advise you to withdraw that complaint - Cullen didn't make an adjudication, he left a comment, offering an opinion. He was in no way been negligent, and you will not enjoy any success in convincing anyone that he was. You also need to collapse those massive walls of text - diffs, which people can follow to read changes for themselves, are more than sufficient. Girth Summit (blether) 17:17, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Girth Summit I apologize for my late response to this. I had not followed your talk page and did not realize you had replied until you mentioned it just now. I thank you for your comments and advice, which are well noted for future activity. Carter00000 (talk) 18:12, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Le Lis et le Lion
Chaussettes? :p That word does indeed mean socks, but of the kind some of us use on our feet, not sock puppets. Check this out. Oh, and as long as I'm being pedantic, it's beaucoup de chaussettes. Thanks for the check! --Bbb23 (talk) 20:08, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
- False noses? Well, I did say it was bad schoolboy French, and I meant it! I actually lived in Brussels for a year in the early 2000s, but my ability to learn either of the languages was hampered by the locals' tendency to raise their eyebrows at my poor attempts and then reply to me in perfect English... Girth Summit (blether) 20:12, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
- lol. I did better. I lived in Paris for a few years, and most of the French couldn't speak "perfect English". I became so fluent I began to dream in French. It's fairly rusty now from disuse.--Bbb23 (talk) 20:22, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah - Paris is a different kettle of fish, you can't rely on them speaking English. In my experience, the most competent English language speakers in Europe are the Dutch, then the Norwegians, then the Belgians. Swedes and Danes rank highly too. The English themselves are probably in the top ten, but I wouldn't be confident about that. Girth Summit (blether) 20:25, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
- lol. I did better. I lived in Paris for a few years, and most of the French couldn't speak "perfect English". I became so fluent I began to dream in French. It's fairly rusty now from disuse.--Bbb23 (talk) 20:22, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
I know you know
Others, though, may not. 👍
Always good to run into you, always constructive and I often learn something 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 22:32, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
- Ah - OK, good point, understood. Hopefully 'others' will take heed and do something about it! Now I'm going to stick my head back into CU logs and then go to bed - nighty-night! Girth Summit (blether) 22:33, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
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Hi,
In case like this (Steward requests/Global#Global lock for Giubbotto non ortodosso sock(s) where same accounts and additional accounts are being requested) please don't use script and edit the original request manually, unless the request has already been handled. It makes our (crazy) life easier. Thanks! — regards, Revi 14:01, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
- Hi Revi - apologies, I should have been more careful there. The script allows me to select which accounts I want to request lock on, I should have unticked the boxes for accounts that had already been reported. I take it that it's OK to use the script if I avoid double-reporting? Girth Summit (blether) 14:32, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
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Lastminute.com shenanigans
There is something going on that I thought an admin might be able to help with. A new user left what was clearly a disgruntled Yelp review on the Lastminute.com page but a recently created account 'LM Corporate' removed. I would say both of these users should be prevented from editing further but I wasn't sure who to warn first...any help you might have would be very appreciated. Best, Kazamzam (talk) 15:42, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for letting me know, Kazamzam. I've advised the person who left the original comments that they were inappropriate; the lm corporate account has been blocked as a username violation. For future reference, accounts that have names representing a company, and which are editing about that company, can be reported to WP:UAA. I also undid one of the changes you made to the page; the links to Which? were not an attempt to use the {{which}} template, they were references to the UK consumer group of that name. Best Girth Summit (blether) 08:20, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
Vandalism Clean up
seems to be posting pvt info. Special:Diff/1095740975. Same user for whom, I asked last scrubbing for. Venkat TL (talk) 06:32, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
Ordnance Survey
Any ideas on how to use its pages as a functioning link? It has the pertinent information I used in the Hillyland article, but I can't link it as a reference because it's javascript and returns a 404. Seasider53 (talk) 11:05, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
- The reference I'd like to use is the top result here. Seasider53 (talk) 11:06, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
- Sounds technical - I'd suggest posting at the Helpdesk, that side of thing isn't my forte. Girth Summit (blether) 16:18, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
- Ha, I had it all typed out for the help desk, then decided to try creating the reference manually. I was using the cite option in the visual editor, which must do some errant magic to the URL when it's generated. Long story short, I is good now. Seasider53 (talk) 16:50, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
- If you were using the visual editor, I'm doubly the wrong person to ask! I remember looking at it once, years ago; my main recollection is a strong sense of confusion tinged with dismay. Maybe it's improved since then? Girth Summit (blether) 05:34, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
- It's mostly decent. I have to revert to the source editor for the occasional thing, but I recommend it, especially if you're just copyediting. Seasider53 (talk) 13:09, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
- If you were using the visual editor, I'm doubly the wrong person to ask! I remember looking at it once, years ago; my main recollection is a strong sense of confusion tinged with dismay. Maybe it's improved since then? Girth Summit (blether) 05:34, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
- Ha, I had it all typed out for the help desk, then decided to try creating the reference manually. I was using the cite option in the visual editor, which must do some errant magic to the URL when it's generated. Long story short, I is good now. Seasider53 (talk) 16:50, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
- Sounds technical - I'd suggest posting at the Helpdesk, that side of thing isn't my forte. Girth Summit (blether) 16:18, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Hi - sorry for the delay, haven't logged in for a couple of days. I see you blocked already, but I took a quick look and they are confirmed. Any other accounts at present, but they're using a couple of very wide ranges so it's hard to be sure. Girth Summit (blether) 09:11, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
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Patient advice
Hello, I see that you've previously given very patient advice to user Kitchen Knife. They seem to be going off the rails again. Perhaps you can provide some third party advice to them (or to me, as you see fit). I see they have been an editor with thousands of contributions since 2007, so I'm perplexed by their current behaviour. (Hohum @) 18:16, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
MGTOW "monkey branching"
idk if a youtube query search in which a decent list of info is available to define the term "monkey branching" is valid as a source. Regardless, here is the link if you should be so inclined to pick and choose to determine if the definition holds.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=monkey+branching Gizziiusa (talk) 21:10, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
MGTOW "monk mode"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOLaw7IhEF8&ab_channel=WhirlwindMGTOW Gizziiusa (talk) 21:21, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- No, YouTube videos released by random channels are not considered to be valid sources. This guideline documents what the community considers to be a reliable source. Best Girth Summit (blether) 22:22, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
I want to help
I always want to help to contribute Wikipedia. I want to be an admin some day. IHateSockpuppets (talk) 21:59, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- It's almost like they're asking for you to CU them, @Girth Summit PRAXIDICAE🌈 22:01, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- Blocked as a
Confirmed sock puppet. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:03, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- Shocker. PRAXIDICAE🌈 22:04, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- Praxidicae - HA! Right?!! ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:23, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- Another satisfied customer, I guess... Girth Summit (blether) 22:29, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- I guess he wasn't lying when he said he wanted to help checkusers find his obnoxious socks PRAXIDICAE🌈 22:31, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- And in the mean time, I've become a prolific vandal, yay! PRAXIDICAE🌈 22:39, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- Another satisfied customer, I guess... Girth Summit (blether) 22:29, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- Praxidicae - HA! Right?!! ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:23, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
- Shocker. PRAXIDICAE🌈 22:04, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
Paid National Trust editor account
This can't be permitted, can it? From the talk page at Treasurer's House, York: "Hello! During late June, July and some of August, I'm working on a paid project sponsored by the National Trust to review and enhance coverage of NT sites. You can find the pilot edits here, as well as a statement and contact details for the National Trust. I am leaving this message when I make a first edit to a page; please do get in touch if you have any concerns." Seasider53 (talk) 11:15, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
- Undeclared paid editing is forbidden, not just by local policy but by the WMF terms and conditions. Declared paid editing is a different kettle of fish - if you declare your connection, it's permitted. The WP:COI guidelines still apply, but providing the subjects they're writing about are notable (I doubt there are many non-notable NT properties) and their editing is neutral and properly sourced, there shouldn't be a problem. Girth Summit (blether) 15:39, 4 July 2022 (UTC)