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June 25
Paolo Banchero Wikipedia page
Someone keeps removing Paolo's nationality on the info box. Before it had: Nationality: American / Italian. Listing him as only 'American' is not right. Paolo is a dual American & Italian citizen and on NBA draft night he said he'll be representing Italy. Hence, he's an Italian basketball player. It's a tricky one because he's born in the U.S., holds dual American & Italian citizenship, and will represent Italy at international tournaments. Just having Paolo as an American basketball player is not right, especially when he's registered for Italy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Allan.waterhouse (talk • contribs) 05:54, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Allan.waterhouse: "Ethnicity, religion, or sexuality should generally not be in the lead unless it is relevant to the subject's notability. Similarly, previous nationalities or the place of birth should not be mentioned in the lead unless relevant to the subject's notability." It's getting removed because until he actually plays for an international squad his nationality isn't particularly relevant to his career as far as Wikipedia is concerned. It's mentioned further down the page, and for now that is all that is necessary. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v a little blue Bori 06:00, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
- But FIBA have him registered for Italy. He's switched allegiance and he will be representing Italy at international tournaments and at the Olympics. I don't know what the correct term is, but being referred to as an American basketball player when he's registered to play for Italy is wrong. How can he be called an American basketball player when he plays for Italy? Allan.waterhouse (talk) 06:09, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
- Again, unless and until he actually plays for Italy it doesn't matter, as his entire career up to this point has been in America. Once he plays for the Italian squad, then it'll change. Not before. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v a little blue Bori 06:12, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
- I agree with that. But why was his Nationality removed in the info box? Other athletes who hold dual citizenship have it listed, why was Paolo's removed? Allan.waterhouse (talk) 06:16, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
- Why is Hanley Ramírez referred to as: Dominican and American former professional baseball shortstop? in the first paragraph? He was born in the Dominican Rep., he has never represented the U.S., and received American citizenship 3 years ago. Why is he referred to in the first sentence as 'Dominican and American' when you can't do the same for Paolo Banchero? Allan.waterhouse (talk) 06:27, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
- Again, unless and until he actually plays for Italy it doesn't matter, as his entire career up to this point has been in America. Once he plays for the Italian squad, then it'll change. Not before. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v a little blue Bori 06:12, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
- But FIBA have him registered for Italy. He's switched allegiance and he will be representing Italy at international tournaments and at the Olympics. I don't know what the correct term is, but being referred to as an American basketball player when he's registered to play for Italy is wrong. How can he be called an American basketball player when he plays for Italy? Allan.waterhouse (talk) 06:09, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
Visualization issues
Hello I recently came across a problem while viewing wikipedia pages on my ipad. Some are fine (e.g. the Buckethead page I am attaching here) while others are much larger than they used to be (e.g. the Top Gun: Maverick I am attaching also). Any advice as to how to make everything look like the Buckethead page? That’s how it used to be and it makes everything much easier to read. Thank you!— Preceding unsigned comment added by Roberto.bentivegna (talk • contribs) 13:54, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
- I'm not an expert on iPads but this may be caused by the zoom settings in the browser. See here for details.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 14:10, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
Maxwell Dane
Mr. Dane’s first wife, Belle Dane, was the mother of his only son and grandmother of his grandchildren. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:184:4980:DA6D:5D08:E6C0:823:517 (talk) 14:46, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
- If you have concerns about an article, please direct them to the associated talk page (e.g., Talk:Maxwell Dane). —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 14:52, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
Can a person edit a other person’s sandbox?
Can a person edit a other person’s sandbox? 2604:B000:C218:128F:F9C3:66B:FF8:D35D (talk) 17:23, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
- It is not forbidden (no page is owned by anybody); but it is not customary to edit non-talk pages in a user's space without being invited to. ColinFine (talk) 17:36, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
about the covid new york deaths
Hi wikipedia, What are u guys doing with the New york Deaths for covid-19? u guys have the SAME EXACT numbers for 22 days in a row :( (71,670) someone Messed Up there :( — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.20.39.215 (talk) 19:40, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
- This is a volunteer project. Maybe the volunteer who has been updating those numbers is on vacation. You can just fix it yourself. Cullen328 (talk) 19:50, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
- Or you could try reading what it says and compare to sources. COVID-19 pandemic in New York (state)#Timeline says 71,670 deaths and "CDC cumulative death data paused from June 6, 2022 to June 21, 2022 due to CDC system upgrades." https://coronavirus.health.ny.gov/fatalities-0 currently says "Total Fatalities reported to and compiled by CDC: 71,670". PrimeHunter (talk) 23:34, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
June 26
COP
I want to donate but you are asking me to pay in Colombia pesos. I can only donate in USA dollars. So how do I do that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 181.133.130.47 (talk) 00:50, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
- Wikipedia doesn't ask for donations; the Wikimedia Foundation does. It might be where you're located, but this page has more information. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 14:33, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
My content is being removed i need reason
I have been adding content and linking it to the proper source but still, my content is removed every time I need to know the reason — Preceding unsigned comment added by Raghav247 (talk • contribs) 05:27, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
- Website homepages are absolutely worthless as sources. You need to link to specific pages on that domain if they're to be considered as sources, otherwise you're only making more work for us. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v a little blue Bori 05:58, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
Oliver Onions
Hi, This edit is technically beyond me, so I'd like to ask someone else to do it.
In the first introductory paragraph of the entry for writer Oliver Onions, the first sentence ends with "over 40 novels" and cites Kunitz and Haycraft. Two things: 1. I have this book, and this quantity of works is not mentioned there, so the reference is incorrect. 2. All the research I've done suggests that Onions did not write this number of novels, so it's also incorrect factually.
I could edit out the sentence to simply read "and novels" and remove the reference at that point. But that would mess up the numbering of the references, which I don't know how to fix.
Hoping someone who has better skills can sort this one out.
Look forward to hearing from you.
Best regards,
Mike Walmer Spikenard65 (talk) 07:56, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
- Spikenard65, I have changed "over 40 novels" to "novels" and moved the reference as it is used later in the article. TSventon (talk) 09:06, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks. Spikenard65 (talk) 05:45, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
TRAPPIST-1 citation error
TRAPPIST-1 insists that the Vallenari 2022 ref has no target, even though it has. And the reference even links to it. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 08:30, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Jo-Jo Eumerus I don't see an error in the article. Did you fix it? GoingBatty (talk) 04:32, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Jo-Jo Eumerus and GoingBatty: After poking around a bit with Special:ExpandTemplates, I saw how the error category was being added and looked up the way to suppress it: Template:Sfn#Link works but displays a no target error. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:18, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
Copying and translating content of another page in a different language
I would like to copy this page from German Wikipedia to the English Wikipedia: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_von_Graffen
At one point it existed in english but someone deleted all the information. I would like to reinstate it - with all the links. I am completely new to editing Wiki pages so I have no idea how to do this. Many thanks AngieLCL (talk) 11:03, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
- We already have an article: Karl von Graffen. As for translating from the German Wikipedia article, this might be problematic, as their article doesn't seem to cite much in the way of sources (or at least, to make clear where the content is sourced to), which we would require. Any translated content would have to be attributed: see Help:Translation. AndyTheGrump (talk) 11:54, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
Claim of Conflict of Interest & Copyright
Hi, I am the Website Officer for Phoenix Reading Hockey Club and have full control of the content on prhockeyclub.co.uk. I have recently began to create a Wiki page for our club - this information is unbias, strictly factual, and as per everything I write from a neutral perspective.
The information I supplied was initially claimed to be Copyrighted material. As the Website Officer for the club, I give assurances that it is not Copyright material, and is simply a background on how the club was formed.
The second dispute was a Conflict of Interest. I am an un-paid employee for the club. The only paid employees are external coaches or specialists.
My question: how do I upload any neutral and unbias information about our club without the constant disputes? As the Website Officer, I am one of the most qualified people to supply history and information on the club.
Many thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by GeJones1993 (talk • contribs) 16:53, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
- GeJones1993 Please read about conflict of interest.
If you are compensated for your position and/or work, the Terms of Use require you to make a formal disclosure, please see WP:PAID for instructions.Please understand Wikipedia has articles, not "wiki pages". Articles are typically written by independent editors wholly unconnected with the topic. Wikipedia is not interested in what an organization says about itself or what it considers to be its own history; a Wikipedia article about an organization must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the organization, showing how it meets Wikipedia's special definition of a notable organization. In short, Wikipedia is interested in what others say the history of your club is, not what it says it is. 331dot (talk) 17:10, 26 June 2022 (UTC) - @GeJones1993: By law, Any material that is published anywhere is copyrighted automatically. This includes the material you your web site. Unless the copyright holder explicitly, in writing, licenses the material or releases to the public domain, we cannot allow it on Wikipedia. Your best move here is to add a copyright notice on your web site that explicitly licenses the material under a license that is acceptable to Wikipedia. CC-BY-SA is the usual license. -Arch dude (talk) 17:12, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
- @GeJones1993 If you remove the existing copyright notice from your Web site, and replace that with a notice that licenses the page under CC-BY-SA, then you are releasing the contents for the whole world to use, modify, etc. Make sure you understand what that CC license means. For better info, please see donating copyrighted materials. That's the technical answer. The other advice, about whether the material is suitable, still applies. 71.228.112.175 (talk) 05:31, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
- But while Arch dude's suggestion would deal with the copyright issue, it would not address the (ir)relevance of the content of your club's website to a Wikipedia article about the club. While an article may source a small amount of uncontroversial factual information from non-independent sources, it is unlikely that material published by the club will be suitable in tone or point of view. ColinFine (talk) 23:08, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
- @GeJones1993: When I look at prhockeyclub.co.uk I see that the bottom of the page states "©Pitch Hero Ltd 2008-2022". The Terms of Service also state in two places that the material is protected by copyright. GoingBatty (talk) 04:30, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
- @GeJones1993 Unpaid employees are considered to fall under the "paid" guidelines by WP. 71.228.112.175 (talk) 05:32, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
Eunice Shade
Hi. I am Eunice Shade. This page in wikipedia is about me: https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eunice_Shade I would like to erase the page but I do not know why some users of wikipedia do not allow me. Please help me to erase the page, the page is about my life and I do not want my life there, thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eunicelopezsanchez (talk • contribs) 18:49, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
- Sorry, but this is the help page for the English-language Wikipedia. We have no control over content on the Spanish-language Wikipedia and you will have to resolve the matter there. AndyTheGrump (talk) 19:04, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Eunicelopezsanchez Try asking here: [1] Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:06, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
- She has been blocked by Conflict of Interest in Spanish language Wikipedia. She was trying to delete this article (her biography). --Ravave (talk) 12:02, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
Vandalism help request from {{subst:Flyabynyt}}
I have noticed some vandalism at Stavros Halkias. Namely, Stavros recently left his position as one of the hosts of the podcast Cum Town. A Wikipedia user added a "controversies" section to his Wikipedia page which contains poorly sourced information which is not notable or relevant. I believe this was motivated by a personal dislike of the subject, and don't believe the section belongs on the article. Other users have attempted to remove the most egregious parts of this section, but users keep reverting the changes. Would an editor please assist me with fixing it? Thank you, Flyabynyt (talk) 19:50, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
- Addition of content whose inclusion you disagree with is not WP:Vandalism, which specifically means edits designed to harm the article/Wikipedia. it is merely WP:Content dispute which you and the other editor(s) involved should civilly discuss and reach a compromise on.
- I notice that the content in question has 7 references. Whether or not the cited sources are reliable or not can be investigated and discussed, but Wikipedia takes a Neutral Point of View, which requires a balance of "good" and "bad" information about the subject in proportion to what is reliably published about them. It should not be used to present a "sanitised" image of a subject, which would border on Promotion.
- Speculating on another editor's motives for adding information is bordering on failing to Assume Good Faith. Since you seem to have such a concern for this subject (and aside from this post have only edited the article about him), can you assure us that you have no Conflict of Interest to declare?
- Disclaimer: I have never previously heard of this subject, live on a different continent, and have no personal stake in this matter, beyond seeing Wikipedia be properly used. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.201.73.76 (talk) 11:52, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
Please help with AfD listing Secular clergy page
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Bodding (talk • contribs)
Courtesy link Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Secular clergy
- See also Lay ministry. Maproom (talk) 22:31, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, exactly my point. Well said. see Lay ecclesial ministry. But they are not clergy. The title does not confer membership into the clergy. Only Ordination can do that, and that includes the Greek Orthodox and Anglican churches. Lay and secular do not equal clergy. But I can understand it seeming so. Altar servers are not clergy, yet they serve right along side priests at the altar. Bodding (talk) 23:03, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
- The current discussion at AfD is lengthy and lively. Please do not Forum shop. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.201.73.76 (talk) 12:01, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, exactly my point. Well said. see Lay ecclesial ministry. But they are not clergy. The title does not confer membership into the clergy. Only Ordination can do that, and that includes the Greek Orthodox and Anglican churches. Lay and secular do not equal clergy. But I can understand it seeming so. Altar servers are not clergy, yet they serve right along side priests at the altar. Bodding (talk) 23:03, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
How to cite the same book (Google Print vs Google Ebook)
I'm working on a draft with a friend and I've come across an issue where I have a book that has two different Google Books pages and also two different ISBN numbers, despite being the same book. The only difference between them I can discern is that one is a print edition and the other is an Ebook edition, despite both being accessible and viewable in Google Books now. You can even see a link in the upper left of the former stating "View Ebook" that links to the latter page. What's the best way to cite these in a reference list? Should they be separate references entirely? SilverserenC 22:37, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
- Hello, Sivlerseren. A citation of a book is to the book - possibly to a particular edition of the book, but not to any particular format. The citation should contain useful bibliographic information such as title, author, publisher, date, page number (in the edition of that date). For convenience of the reader it is helpful to include things like ISBN, and link to Google Books, but these are not an essential part of the citation. If you find two different formats have different ISBNs you should ideally give the ISBN of the copy you consulted (it sometimes used to be the case that hardback and paperback versions of a book had different ISBNs - I don't know whether this still happens). Some Ebook formats do not have fixed pagination (it depends on the user's formatting choices), so it seems undesirable to cite that format if it can be avoided. I guess that if you find the passage in a Google Books snippet and can verify it has the same information, you can then cite that edition, as you have consulted it.
- This is a bit of a rambling answer: does it help? ColinFine (talk) 23:21, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
- A bit, @ColinFine:. The main issue here is that when searching the draft subject's name in the preview options for both Google Books pages, you actually get different results. One shows two pages discussing the subject and the other shows 5 different pages, including the Appendix, discussing the person. Herein lies the dilemma and is probably why my fellow editor included them as separate references. SilverserenC 23:24, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
June 27
Determining Consensus
Hello,
I am interested in helping out with moving pages, but I am worried that I will misjudge consensus at WP:RM. Is there anything that I should look out for when determining consensus at that page? And another question : Would one editor supporting a move until the time elapses be considered a consensus? I am trying to learn how to properly determine the conditions for this policy. CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 03:25, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
- @CollectiveSolidarity: If there are no objections at all after a reasonable time, make the change. This is a logical extension of WP:BRD, wherin you may simply make a change without any previous discussion because a dissenter may revert your change to indicate disagreement. Opening a discussion prior to a change is a good idea for a move, though, because a dissenter has a harder time reversing a move than reverting an edit. -Arch dude (talk) 16:30, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
One Mega Group
Why was my edit of an article removed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Mega_Group — Preceding unsigned comment added by Themissmargaux (talk • contribs) 07:30, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
- This edit had a promotional tone and used very unencyclopedic language. There may also be a conflict of interest if you are linked to this company.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 07:36, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
- In addition, a great deal of unsourced content was added, the sources that were used were mostly primary, and a bunch of inappropriate inline external links were inserted in the lede. @Themissmargaux, there are a great many policies you should spend some time getting up to speed on before making such huge changes (especially WP:COI, as mentioned above). 174.21.23.32 (talk) 07:52, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
- FYI, the draft you just submitted will not be accepted, for all of the same reasons. 174.21.23.32 (talk) 07:54, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
- In addition, a great deal of unsourced content was added, the sources that were used were mostly primary, and a bunch of inappropriate inline external links were inserted in the lede. @Themissmargaux, there are a great many policies you should spend some time getting up to speed on before making such huge changes (especially WP:COI, as mentioned above). 174.21.23.32 (talk) 07:52, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
Why this doesn't change to collapsible?
I tried to copy Template:Montgomery County, Maryland to my user subpage as User:40bus/County templates with minor changes. But it doesn't change to collapsible. Which is wrong? --40bus (talk) 07:47, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
- @40bus: If you mean why it didn't render at the time of your post then you fixed it with a missing bracket in [2]. If you wonder why it's currently collapsed by default then it's because there are other navboxes on the page. See
collapse_state
at Template:US county navigation box. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:22, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
Very strange formatting issues on Ecocide article
Hi all
I've been doing some work on the Ecocide article and have a very strange issue, when I try to bold the title of the article it doesn't work properly, it ends up italicising the title and making the entire first paragraph. Is there an issue with the template above or something? Have tried both source editor and VE to fix it but neither work.
Thanks
John Cummings (talk) 13:49, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
- Check the number of single quote marks in that paragraph, and note that you previously included a nowiki closing tag. It's unusual to include a quotation in the WP:LEAD of an article. Bazza (talk) 15:55, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
Publish?
Hi, I'm new as a contributor on Wikipedia. I started with a short text on a new article in my Sandbox. I checked the text and it's now ready to be published in Wikipedia. How can I do this? If I'm in the Sandbox and click on the Publish button, the text does not appear in Wikipedia. Thnx for your help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MKenter (talk • contribs) 16:18, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
- Hello, MKenter. Because absolutely everything in Wikipedia is publically visible if you know where to look, the "Save changes" butten was altered a while ago to read "publish". This means "Save it so that it is visible to anybody": it doesn't mean "Make it part of the encyclopaedia". I have added a header to your sandbox, so that you can submit it for review and eventual acceptance into the encyclopaedia. However, please don't hit that button yet, as it is not ready, and that will waste everybody's time.
- Please read your first article to understand what is needed in an article. The reason I say that it is not ready is that it has not a single reference independent of the Committee. Wikipedia is not interested in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is only interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. If there are few or no such sources, then no article is possible: the jargon for this is that the subject is then not notable.
- Please read about notability to understand the minimum requirements on an organisation to be the subject of an article. ColinFine (talk) 16:40, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
Removing a category from a deleted section
In Category:People who detransitioned, there is under K a "Kiera Bell". This links to a deleted section in Detransition (Detransition#Individual_accounts). How do you remove this? The article itself doesn't have the category listed, except in the see also section. --Roundish ⋆tc) 16:23, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
- It was the redirection page itself which was in the category: I have removed that, as unhelpful. ColinFine (talk) 16:46, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
- Oh, I'll check the redirection page next time. Thanks! --Roundish ⋆tc) 16:50, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
- I believe that the fact that the item was listed in the category in italics means that it is a redirection page. ColinFine (talk) 17:11, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, redirects are automatically shown in italics in categories. For the record, it was Keira Bell and not "Kiera Bell". PrimeHunter (talk) 17:59, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
- I believe that the fact that the item was listed in the category in italics means that it is a redirection page. ColinFine (talk) 17:11, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
- Oh, I'll check the redirection page next time. Thanks! --Roundish ⋆tc) 16:50, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
Writing a page for WikiPedia
Hello,
I am the founder of a ministry. There is no information yet about it on Wikipedia. I need to create a page for it. I read a little bit about how to do it but do not believe I'm qualified to write it.
I'm trying to find assistance. Is there someone that could assist with writing a page or does that not exist?
Thank you,
Merryl Moore — Preceding unsigned comment added by 45.24.139.194 (talk) 17:16, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
- If this is about God's Closet, I very much doubt that it meets Wikipedia's standards of notability, and is therefore not a suitable subject for an article here. Maproom (talk) 17:40, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
- Hi Merryl! Creating a new article is one of the hardest things to do on Wikipedia, especially if you do not have a lot of experience editing existing Wikipedia articles and when you have a conflict of interest (COI). To learn how to edit, you could view Help:Introduction and try The Wikipedia Adventure. I suggest spending a significant amount of time editing existing articles to hone your skills. Once you're ready to create an article, you would gather multiple independent reliable sources that have provided significant coverage of the subject, and determine whether it meets Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, called "notability". If so, you could follow the instructions at Help:Your first article, and be prepared for a process that may include months of waiting, rejections, and rewrites, before an article is created. If you are successful, then you could never edit the article directly due to your COI, but could submit edit requests on the article talk page. Hope this helps. GoingBatty (talk) 17:43, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
- Hello, Merryl. I'm afraid that "I need to create a page for it" indicates that, like many people , you have a fundamental misunderstanding of what Wikipedia is. If at some time there is an article about your ministry (rather than a "page for" it), the article will not belong to you, will not be controlled by you, and should be almost entirely based on what people unconnected with your ministry have chosen to publish about it - including any adverse or critical writing as well as approving - not on what you or your associates say or want to say. ColinFine (talk) 19:09, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
Chah-e articles
Would it be a good idea to nominate all of the "Chah-e village" articles for speedy deletion under criteria G3? For about a year, there's been consensus that many Iranian village articles made by the user Carlossuarez46 are not actually villages. In fact, many of them are gas stations, slaughterhouses, farms, estates, etc. "Chah-e", in particular, almost certainly means "well". So given the translations, these Chah-e articles are almost 100% hoaxes and should be deleted, however I'm not sure if SD is the correct route. --VersaceSpace 🌃 20:04, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
- It would obviously be wrong to G3 those that are not "blatant hoaxes" or "pure vandalism" and I'm not sure any fit into these categories at all. Are there really any G3 candidates? I know nothing about Iranian place names but in English many (nearly all?) places with "well" in the name are not actually wells although they may have been named after where there was once a well. See, for example Bradwell. Thincat (talk) 20:48, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
- I understand where you're coming from, but Chah-e Ali Akbar Shahzehi (well of Ali Akbar Shahzehi) is 100% not on the same level as Bradwell. After reading up on it more, it's definitely inappropriate to G3 these as the suspected hoaxes were not "blatant", but I don't think it's wise to just boil this down to an American equivalent. --VersaceSpace 🌃 21:08, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
- @VersaceSpace It looks like these need to be deleted, but no one seems to know under what criterion. Non-notable perhaps? 71.228.112.175 (talk) 05:44, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
- I understand where you're coming from, but Chah-e Ali Akbar Shahzehi (well of Ali Akbar Shahzehi) is 100% not on the same level as Bradwell. After reading up on it more, it's definitely inappropriate to G3 these as the suspected hoaxes were not "blatant", but I don't think it's wise to just boil this down to an American equivalent. --VersaceSpace 🌃 21:08, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
Declined AFC draft bypassed via own page move
Hi all, I'm not sure where to raise this one. The article George Abagnalo is an exact copy of Draft:George Abagnalo, which was declined at AFC due to insufficient notability, by the same creator. I don't know what step to take next, so someone please take care of this. Thanks! —CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 21:01, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
- @CX Zoom: I might be wrong, but if you see an article with questionable notability, you can nominate it for deletion. weeklyd3 (message me | my contributions) 21:02, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
- Wait! You pinged me, but I didn't get a notification. Some bug? —CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 21:48, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Asilvering: Since you declined the draft, I thought you might be interested in this conversation. GoingBatty (talk) 21:07, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
- Oh, sigh. I normally try to do some digging to see if I can't save this kind of article myself when they come up for AfD or get turned down a few times at AfC, but I don't know if I feel terribly inclined to try for this one given the circumstances... Thanks for the ping and I wish the editor luck, but I'll probably sit this one out. -- asilvering (talk) 00:49, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
- See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/George Abagnalo if interested. -- Hoary (talk) 22:33, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
I got a suspected sockpuppet issue with an administrator
This administrator, seems to favor a particular guy who is involved in edit war. Its quite apparent he is engaging in content restriction to favor his business needs. My ongoing dispute wiht this guy was intervened by the administrator LeoFrank, who reverted only my changes.He doesnt seem to follow his own suggestions in talking before acting(reverting). There is also a contradiction in his policy enforcement. While he maintains airport destination cities can't be cited by airline booking engine sources (if you are shocked you are not alone), he adopts an one eye closed approach for similar citings in another airport. While he removes cities that are not cited in one airport page,he reverted my delete of similar uncited cities in the other airport.
If admins collude with users to promote financial interests, Wikipedia is definitely not a place for these folks!!!!
Please help. I am tired of reading through/editing articles on this matter. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mugunthsboa (talk • contribs) 21:12, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
- 1. LeoFrank is not an administrator. 2. This is a content dispute. You may want to try WP:DISPUTE. Jauerbackdude?/dude. 21:27, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks Jauerback! Will follow through Mugunthsboa (talk) 06:10, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
June 28
Need opinions on a draft
I would like your opinions whether you think this draft User:Dwnloda/sandbox is good enough to be submitted to the AFC and whether you see any issues with it or what edits or changes you recommend before it is submitted to the AFC. Overall do you think this page has a chance? Dwnloda (talk) 02:56, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
Does anyone know what happened to the Top 1000 report from HostBot?
Looks like the Top 1000 hasn't been updated since the end of May 2022. See: User:HostBot/Top 1000 report. - Scarpy (talk) 03:23, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
- User:HostBot has stopped working. The bot owner seems to be aware. Shantavira|feed me 08:51, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
Saint-Antoine-l'Abbaye
Hi, I need help for Abbey of Saint-Antoine-l'Abbaye and Abbey church of Saint-Antoine-l'Abbaye, specially about style, spelling and grammar. Both articles are translated from the French. We had a workshop last week-end, where we took more than 1000 pictures of the church and the village, so pictures will be added soon. I will add references when I find them (not easy). Thanks, Yann (talk) 16:15, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Yann: The church article is almost entirely unreferenced. Have you considered slimming it down somewhat and merging it into the Abbey's article, in a section entitled Church? TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 22:51, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Yann: Hi! I looked over the articles and did some editing. I also started some threads on the Abbey talk page. Birdsinthewindow (talk) 03:11, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Yann: Help desk discussion tend to be archived a little faster than discussions on other noticeboards perhaps; I believe the idea is to keep at most three or four days worth of discussions visible on the main HD page so as to keep the page somewhat easy to navigate; however, you don't really need to "unarchive" discussions like you did in this case if you want add something else to the discussion; it's OK to continue archived discussions on their respective archive pages. If you want to revive a previously archived discussion on the main HD page, it probably better to simply add a link to the archived discussion and then add your new comments instead of copying and pasting the entire discussion back onto the main HD page. -- Marchjuly (talk) 08:06, 28 June 2022 (UTC)