Trinity (story arc)
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This article came up at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Triarch as a potential redirect target, but several users (and myself) have noted that this DC Comics story arc fails WP:GNG. The content is solely a short plot summary and a list of issues. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 11:28, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Delete - Searches are complicated by the fact that DC has published several other series since this one also named "Trinity" or some variant of such, as well as the term often being used as the general term for the teamup of Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman. The particular story arc described in this article, however, appears to be the least notable of all of their uses. I am finding no significant coverage in reliable sources regarding this particular story arc. Rorshacma (talk) 14:05, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
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Hoa Hậu Hoàn Mỹ 2022
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This is now the 4th posting of this article in mainspace despite warnings not to. Draft:Hoa hậu hoàn mỹ 2022, Draft:Hoa hậu hoàn mỹ 2022 (2) and Draft:Hoa hậu hoàn mỹ 2022 (3) are the previous incarnations.
I'm not familiar with Vietnamese so I'm using a translator to help but this appears to be an article about a beauty pageant. I am, however, struggling to verify its existence. Let's search in Google for some of the contestants' names. Chalis Buwong links only to Wikipedia. Same with another contestant - Efghi Tani. And Sirthop Botp. As you can guess, Wikiame Sitris also fails verification. Article currently fails WP:V, is completely unsourced and is not fit for mainspace in any case. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 10:56, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
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Daniel Gyamfi
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Was kept at AfD in 2009 because of an unsubstantiated claim that the subject met WP:ATHLETE (older and more lenient version of WP:NFOOTBALL) but no claim to meeting WP:GNG. Now that ATHLETE and NFOOTBALL are irrelevant, this simply needs to meet GNG. Current source is a stats profile page from a primary source, which is unacceptable. Searches in Google News, ProQuest yields one trivial mention and DDG has no WP:RS at all for him. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 09:59, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
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Nations League Tune–up match
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An identical copy exists at Draft:Nations League Tune–up match. This is an article on a set of friendly matches that makes no claim to passing WP:SPORTSEVENT and has no evidence of meeting WP:GNG. When this was draftified, this was contested with the comment BRUH THIS IS NOT A DRAFT. SEE THE INFORMATION IN PHILIPPINE VOLLEYBALL PAGE IN FACEBOOK. CHECK FIRST BEFORE YOU MAKE A DRAFT
Firstly, the Volleyball Philippines Facebook page is not a reliable or independent source. In my searches, I could not find any significant coverage of this event taking place between these countries in volleyball. Wikipedia should not be a place for posting an exhaustive list of sports results per WP:NOTSTATS. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 16:14, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Comment There is coverage of the announcement that they will play:
- "PH men's and women's team to play exhibition matches against VNL squads". Manila Bulletin. 2022-05-05. Retrieved 2022-06-04.
- Dannug, Jonash (2022-05-06). "Volleyball NTs to have friendlies during VNL week". Tiebreaker Times. Retrieved 2022-06-04.
- Not sure if it is enough though. The AfD is unfortunately timed in that the first match happens in exactly 7 days, meaning the sourcing state could change right as the AfD would need to be decided. Also, if the matches do turn out notable, they very likely should not be put at the article's current title, it probably should be at PNVF International Challenge as that's what the event is called. Jumpytoo Talk 22:41, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- This is why I wanted to incubate the article in draft. There is a chance that these warm-up games might gain sustained and far-reaching coverage but it's WP:TOOSOON right now. I usually edit football and I know it's not the same but most warm-up games and exhibition matches are not notable enough for separate articles; see for example here and here. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 06:36, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
- Draftify and history-merge to fix the cut-and-paste move. There's barely any textual content here, almost A3. There needs to be some textual content before this can be an article. I don't have any arguments for or against deletion right now. --Paul_012 (talk) 09:46, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Delete this is just a series of friendlies with a name with no trophy at stake.Hariboneagle927 (talk) 22:42, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
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Solomon Addy
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Kept in a 2009 AfD back when the guidelines were much more lenient; it simply had to be likely to pass WP:ATHLETE, the predecessor to WP:NFOOTBALL, to be kept. The sources presented in the previous discussion were all examples of trivial coverage and do not amount to a WP:GNG pass, which is the current requirement. Searches in Google News, DDG and ProQuest yielded nothing better than Wikipedia mirrors. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 09:26, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
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Mohamed Khalaf
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Previous AfD in 2009 closed as 'no consensus' as it was unclear as to whether he played for Al Ahly. Now that WP:NFOOTBALL has been deprecated, the debate about whether he played a game or not is irrelevant. All that matters is WP:GNG. I couldn't find any significant coverage for this Egyptian defender when searching "محمد خلف" in conjunction with clubs that he allegedly played for. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 09:19, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
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Mohammed Nuru Dini
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Was kept at AfD in 2009 as, back then, WP:ATHLETE (the predecessor to WP:NFOOTBALL) was all that you needed to meet to have an article. Now that WP:GNG is the sole relevant guideline, I don't believe that this article qualifies any more. In fact, searches of "Mohammed Nuru Dini" and "Mohammed Dini" in multiple search engines are giving me no useful results at all. Unless clear significant coverage can be found, this article should be deleted. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 08:56, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
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Cultural differences between Kazakhstan and Malaysia
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This isn't really an article but a discussion on the differences between two very different cultures based on them having signed a Memorandum of Understanding and Cooperation in Tourism. There is no real encyclopedic content and the Perspectives section is a discussion among fictional characters. The sources do not seem to discuss the subject matter but not really supporting the title. In other words there seems to be no discussion in scholarly works supporting this. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 08:52, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Delete oh dear someone has put a huge amount of work into this but it’s a personal essay full of WP:SYNTH. There are probably elements that can be merged into Culture of Malaysia and Culture of Kazakhstan but that’s a huge task. Mccapra (talk) 11:36, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
Neva Gilbert
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Biography for a non-notable playmate. damiens.rf 06:10, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Comment One story about her in the retirement home [3] from the TV station, might have enough for GNG, unsure about notability. Oaktree b (talk) 15:55, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
- Keep - there are multiple stories about Gilbert. Two by one reporter at the Palm Beach Post (yes, I realize that can be considered as one, but they are from 2016[1] and 2017[2]). Then there is the more routine coverage Playboy centerfolds.[3][4] DaffodilOcean (talk) 12:30, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
- Surely simply being the oldest surviving playboy centrefold makes her noteworthy? 2A00:23C8:3383:7801:698A:75B6:612:132 (talk) 10:16, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
References
- ^ Aydlette, Larry (December 2016). "Lake Worth's Neva Gilbert recalls her "lucky" life as one of Playboy magazine's original Playmates". The Palm Beach Post. Archived from the original on December 19, 2016.
- ^ Aydlette, Larry (2017-02-05). "Lake Worth woman named oldest Playmate". The Palm Beach Post. pp. [1], [2]. Retrieved 2022-06-12.
- ^ Kleiner, Dick (1979-12-06). "Show World Spotlight". The Times-Tribune. p. 38. Retrieved 2022-06-12.
- ^ Lennon, Troy (9 December 2015). "Sting in the bunny tail for Playboy's earliest nudes". The Daily Telegraph; Surry Hills, N.S.W. [Surry Hills, N.S.W]. p. 60.
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May Andersen
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Biography for a non-notable model. damiens.rf 06:06, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Keep lots of articles about her in Danish media: [4], [5], [6], [7], [8], ... Christian75 (talk) 06:16, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
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EVRYTHNG
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Prod was disputed; all references appear to be press releases; insufficient third-party reliable sources to establish notability. OhNoitsJamie Talk 00:09, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Delete: fails WP:NCORP. ––FormalDude talk 04:04, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Delete - Fails NCORP due to a lack of notability. Sources include a salary review link likely to have been written by the company itself, trivial press release for an award from a market consulting firm, and other articles from non-reliable sources with questionable independence such as this, this, and this. What little coverage there is from actual news outlets, these outlets do not appear to be sufficiently established to count as a reliable source for an encyclopaedia. The only source I consider to be reliable, independent, and secondary is this from the Guardian. However I do not see multiple of such sources covering the subject significantly. There are plenty of trivial mentions elsewhere about their capital raisings or acquisitions, but these business updates do not really add to notability in my view. MaxnaCarter (talk) 10:38, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
- Keep The company has been covered in several analyst reports which meet WP:NCORP's notability criteria. For example this by Proficient Market Insights, this by The Business Research Company and this from Research and Markets. HighKing++ 21:30, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
- Analyst reports can demonstrate notability of a publicly traded corporation, particularly those listed on major stock markets per WP:LISTED. According to my research, I cannot see that this company is publicly traded? It appears to be traded on the private market and owned by venture capital investors like Dawn Capital and Samsung per Craft. Hence the analysis you link to does not fall within the letter or spirit of that guideline - which seeks to establish that publicly traded companies are likely notable. Not all such traded companies may be discussed in traditional sourcing methods like newspapers - but they may well instead attract stock analysis instead. This allows notable publicly traded companies ability to meet notability standards. I do not see how EVRYTHNG meets notability here. Thoughts? MaxnaCarta (talk) 03:11, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
- I don't think the guidelines are implying that analyst reports can only be used by publically traded companies in order to meet notability criteria. Analyst reports meet the requirements of WP:SIRS in that they provide in-depth "Independent Content" in the form of analysis/opinion of a company and therefore meet the criteria for establishing notability. They're a gold standard really for meeting NCORP. HighKing++ 18:01, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Keep - Per HighKing. Though I can't see the contents of these reports to verify WP:SIGCOV the fact that EVRYTHNG is mentioned in the abstracts gives me enough confidence. ~Kvng (talk) 14:45, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
- Comment: The sources provided by HighKing are useless unless someone has access to the full report. I'm not sure why they're being used as an argument to keep when they haven't even been added to the article, and likely will not be given their high cost to purchase. I'd maybe support draftification over delete, but I'm definetely not finding those sources alone to be sufficient justification to keep this PR soup. ––FormalDude talk 04:12, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
- @FormalDude technically per WP:PAYWALL the high ridiculous cost of the reports would not prohibit their use, but I certainly agree with everything else you said! Indeed, I feel the high prices lend to my argument above that the sources are not there for public consumption, they are expensive because the article subject is a privately traded company and so the sources, accessible or not, do not even count as sources for the purpose of meeting WP:NCORP. MaxnaCarta (talk) 12:01, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
- The high cost can also be used to argue the other side. The information about these companies is important enough to fetch a high price. ~Kvng (talk) 13:44, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
- I doubt there's much if any correlation between this company's importance and the prices of those sources. ––FormalDude talk 13:45, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
- OK, so neither of us are making persuasive arguments about the price. In any case, WP:PAYWALL applies. ~Kvng (talk) 13:49, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
- I doubt there's much if any correlation between this company's importance and the prices of those sources. ––FormalDude talk 13:45, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
- The high cost can also be used to argue the other side. The information about these companies is important enough to fetch a high price. ~Kvng (talk) 13:44, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
- @FormalDude technically per WP:PAYWALL the high ridiculous cost of the reports would not prohibit their use, but I certainly agree with everything else you said! Indeed, I feel the high prices lend to my argument above that the sources are not there for public consumption, they are expensive because the article subject is a privately traded company and so the sources, accessible or not, do not even count as sources for the purpose of meeting WP:NCORP. MaxnaCarta (talk) 12:01, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
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Andy Jick
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Can a team's Public address announcer be notable? o apparent non--local coverage DGG ( talk ) 04:14, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
- Keep Has enough WP:SIGCOV to pass WP:GNG. Anyone can be notable as long there is enough significant coverage on him. There is plenty of coverage on Jick in several publications [9][10][11][12] Alvaldi (talk) 09:38, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Weak keep I'd expect an article with more meat on it, but I guess it's notable, based on what we see as sources. Oaktree b (talk) 23:37, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
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Jacky Liew
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Most of the sources are typically press releases with overwhelmingly promotional tones and suspicious claims from news websites with low reputations. 虹易 (talk) 02:27, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
- Keep Which news websites have "low reputations"? And how are you addressing the sources brought up in the prior AfD that were why it resulted in a Keep decision? As an example, the Chinese Wikipedia article on him is rather extensive in all respects, including sourcing. Here's just a few examples:
- Monan, Li (December 28, 2021). "这个"美食家"不一般 《食公子经典》传记上线一周年" [This "Gourmet" is not ordinary, the first anniversary of the launch of the biography of "Shi Gongzi Classic"]. China Business Herald (in Chinese).
- Mingyuan (May 10, 2022). "食公子的美食家入门-看菜辨味" [Foodie's Introduction to Foodies]. CCTV Fusion (in Chinese).
- Ying, Ren (December 16, 2021). "饮水思源的食神始祖食公子" [The ancestor of the god of food who drinks water and thinks of the source, Master Shi]. Xindushiwang (in Chinese).
- It sounds like you're trying to claim things as "press releases" of your own accord without evidence. Food and foodie news coverage is routinely written in a praising manner. SilverserenC 03:06, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
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- @Silver seren:Hi! I feel sorry for failing to notice there is a previous AFD. But I did roughly examine sources in the Chinese Wikipedia. The majority of the sources supporting the achievements and awards of the subject are from news websites in mainland China, with which I am pretty familiar. Based on my experience, I am sure that they are just cheap press releases. In mainland China nowadays, news publication is "industrialized", thanks to Xi's crackdown on journalism, in the sense that even those traditional government-backed newspapers tend to sell their news at "transparent" and insanely "low" prices. The first source is from China Business Herald (zh: 中国商报). Its "news" article is sold at as low as 90 CNY (< 15 USD), as listed in a news-selling platform connected with hundreds of state-level or traditional reputable local newspapers[13](scroll down and the search box is on the right side). And from its text,
...he is also listed on Wiki(pedia) in dozens of languages in the world and various Chinese online encyclopedias. As the first person in Malaysia, he was selected as the modern Chinese gourmet who stood side by side with the eight ancient gourmets, Confucius, Cao Cao, Du Fu, Su Shi, Zhang Dai, Li Yu, Jin Shengtan and Yuan Mei.
- It is ridiculous, far from just praising. The second cctvzyzg.com, even implied by its domain "CCTV", is an unknown website (copycat of cctv.com, I suppose). It has little traffic[14] and no links from zhwiki[15]. The third xindushiwang.com appears to be a content farm with a fake ICP license number. In mainland China, the government requires every website to be licensed before serving. If it was true, [16] should include it (No.豫ICP备19028662号-6 or its domain). It also explains why it is hosted on Hong Kong servers, which is barely possible due to excessive Internet regulation policies and the Great Firewall. The other sources listed in zhwiki are no better, except for some magazines published in Malaysia, which usually do not constitute "significant coverage" or are irrelevant.--虹易 (talk) 05:49, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
- @虹易 thanks for the additional information. in my opinion, if the subject is really notable, there should be a balance between domestic and international sources. however, this is really skewed towards international sources, and like you have mentioned, many aren't really notable. – robertsky (talk) 06:44, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
- Delete: per nom. and per what I have mentioned before in the first afd, which is similar to what the nominator rationalised. – robertsky (talk) 04:13, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
- Keep: Indeed a notable subject of food critic in Malaysia. The news in mainland China could be he further development in China market newly in the recent years. As mentioned before, other offline sources maybe discovered. There are also some other reliable news report :http://www.takungpao.com/special/239159/2021/1217/667287.html. Since he passed Afd, he should be passed WP:GNG — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arrisontan (talk • contribs) 09:38, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
- Arrisontan, the article from Takungpao is even worse than those listed in zhwiki. The text contains numerous grammar, punctuation errors, and chaotic sentences. It seems to be generated by a broken machine instead of a sane human. --虹易 (talk) 11:30, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
- I dont think it is translated from broken machine, because as you know the article contained a lot of prose written in classical Chinese, for me, I can understand it totally. And the translate machine cannot translate the classical Chinese well. Arrisontan (talk) 11:41, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
- Arrisontan, what do you mean by "classical Chinese"?--虹易 (talk) 11:44, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
- 引用了一些典籍、古文类文体,这些都是翻译机器不能翻译的 Arrisontan (talk) 11:50, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
- Arrisontan, just in the paragraph: "连仿维基、百科,具大量转载,国外报导都是他", "从他传记获海量人数支撑的六行权重性“全站链接”,智能萃取他与世界美食家并列", "以为他创建各国十数个维基,中国他传式百科,具少不了食公子的履历。 ". These are obviously not valid sentences whether in modern or classical Chinese. I would call them a string of Chinese words chained in chaotic order. --虹易 (talk) 12:15, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
- I would say it is a long sentence that require a high level of understanding to the expression, but it still can be understand. Arrisontan (talk) 13:56, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
- But if say it is a machine translate article. it seems not. Because Ta Kung Pao is a state-owned newspapers, the editor would not let a machine translate thing published anyway. Arrisontan (talk) 13:58, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
- Arrisontan, just in the paragraph: "连仿维基、百科,具大量转载,国外报导都是他", "从他传记获海量人数支撑的六行权重性“全站链接”,智能萃取他与世界美食家并列", "以为他创建各国十数个维基,中国他传式百科,具少不了食公子的履历。 ". These are obviously not valid sentences whether in modern or classical Chinese. I would call them a string of Chinese words chained in chaotic order. --虹易 (talk) 12:15, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
- Unreliable source then. Oaktree b (talk) 16:07, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
- The takungbao.com is serving mainland China with simplified Chinese and takungpao.com.hk is serving Hong Kong with traditional Chinese. As I explained earlier, such kinds of state-backed newspapers in mainland China are cheap enough nowadays. That article won't cost a few dollars to get posted. And in a poll in November 2019, "Ta Kung Pao once again took the last seat with a credibility score of 3.30, making it the media with the lowest credibility score in Hong Kong"[17][18]. The "article" posted in the "state-backed newspapers" just again proves that someone buys tons of low-quality press releases or advertorial. (I would not like to dive into the problem of the news itself for now. I think a consensus can be established easily in zhwiki, if necessary. There are plenty of editors familiar with or fluent in both modern and classical Chinese.) --虹易 (talk) 01:04, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
- I dont think it is translated from broken machine, because as you know the article contained a lot of prose written in classical Chinese, for me, I can understand it totally. And the translate machine cannot translate the classical Chinese well. Arrisontan (talk) 11:41, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Arrisontan if he were to further develop in China, we should have seen sources from the more mainstream/familar online media from China than these random sites, even if they are short articles. – robertsky (talk) 19:12, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
- Actually I can find some mainstream and online media platform written about his biography and introduce him.
- https://gd.sina.com.cn/news/jk/2022-01-06/detail-ikyamrmz2036790.shtml (Sina Corporation, China mainstream online platform focus on entertainment, life)
- http://whzg.chinareports.org.cn/plus/view.php?aid=12726 (China Reports Network, China state-owned magazines, but need to access through VPN)
- http://hsqz.china.com.cn/chinanet/index.php/Home/Index/readcontent/contentid/27499 (China Internet Information Center, another China state-owned media)
- It indeed have other sources to support him active in China in recent years as there are other familiar and mainstream newspaper reporting him. The above just few examples seem more reliable that exactly report by the official news web and discussing his works and life. Arrisontan (talk) 14:59, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
- Arrisontan, Sina is a mainstream portal website with huge traffic. IMO, it is somewhat reputable 10 years ago, but not today. This article in Jan 2022 doesn't even have an author's name. And it shares exactly the same content as the one from zgswcn[19] with some sentences trimmed (almost every sentence in sina can be found in zgswcn). So it is pretty clear that either both the two articles are advertorials paid by the same broker, or Sina blatantly steal the article from zgswcn.com without attribution. In whichever case, it reflects an awful reputation. The second article consists of a bunch of mixed usage of halfwidth and fullwidth Chinese punctutations which indicates the lack of basic proofreading before publishing. Chinareports.org.cn is a state-owned political magazine, which must have an editorial team, but seemingly not the case for the website. Again, no author's name. So is the third one. What's more, except for the one in Takungbao which is incomprehensible, all these reports published in mainland China follow a distinctively unorthodox grammar and write in a special style, which I have never seen before in published Chinese newspapers as a native speaker. Such styles are neither modern nor typical classical Chinese, and neither spoken nor oral. It is absolutely impossible that every website/newspaper just shares this unique grammar and style of writing. I am confident that they are written by a single person or team before getting published on tons of strange websites, which again supports my assumption that they are typical undisclosed press releases or advertorials. Last but not least, these sources in mainland China cover significantly Liew‘s activities, awards, achievements, and titles in Malaysia, instead of China, with a whale of compliments. I fail to find a reasonable explanation of how they learn about and verify these details with no correspondents or journalists in Malaysia if there is little or no coverage by media in Malaysia. Also, it should take no effort to find numerous reports by highly reputable media in Malaysia and the world on "the first person to be known as a foodie in Malaysia", "the earliest ancestor of and the god of gourmet" and "World Gourmet Master", as claimed by those media in mainland China. --虹易 (talk) 02:08, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- Although what you said Sina is steeling articles from the web, but it still not can be regarded as your claims that it is content paid by advertorials. And there has no exact prove that written by the same person. What you have argue just a presumption.
- It can't be said that the subject does not have reports from Malaysia newspapers, just that Malaysia medias not uploading their news online, they more focus on offline publishers, which I dig from the previous version of Wikipedia, he indeed have reports https://archive.org/details/20200611_20200611_1640 // https://www.pressreader.com/malaysia/sin-chew-daily-melaka-edition/20170906/284283890208084// https://archive.org/details/food-digestbut not coverage, so it got no count as sources.
- Malaysia news developed their online media in these years only and they just selectively put what's report offline to online platform. That's why previous Afd concludes offline sources must be somewhere. Arrisontan (talk) 05:03, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- Arrisontan, it is a basic evaluation per WP:RS and common sense. I think it is crystal clear that these tons of extremely low-quality sources in mainland China are cheap press releases and advertorials with countless problems, most of which are obvious enough if it was on zhwiki, such as the chaotic article on Takungpao. Other than those sources in mainland China, most sources in Malaysia are WP:PRIMARY, and so are the three above. And most importantly, none of them support or just mention the claims "the first person to be known as a foodie in Malaysia", "the earliest ancestor of and the god of gourmet" and "World Gourmet Master", as repeated in every source in mainland China. Among Chinese newspapers in Malaysia, Guangming, Kwongwah have online reports as early as 2007[20][21], Overseas Chinese Daily News and Sin Chew Daily as early as 2009[22][23].--虹易 (talk) 09:39, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- Please find in detail that the above sources I provide did mentioned him is the "World Gourmet Master", the examples of Malaysia news you provide, as I said like some they are selectively upload online which quite frustrated. The claims should be focus on whether he is enough [[WP:GNG]] which passed him in previous Afd, but not the statement of "the first person to be known as a foodie in Malaysia", "the earliest ancestor of and the god of gourmet" etc. The focus of your points is a bit out of the track. Arrisontan (talk) 10:00, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
some they are selectively upload online which quite frustrated
indeed, which I am puzzled. If you had ruffled through the edit history of this article, the sourcing of the really promotional versions that had been scrubbed were old articles uploaded/used by the creator of this article, which I can safely say, who has obvious COI (there's off-wiki evidence to collaborate on this as well). If there are old articles about the subject, there's a good chance that she would have an archive of the news articles, and uploaded more. – robertsky (talk) 11:45, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- Please find in detail that the above sources I provide did mentioned him is the "World Gourmet Master", the examples of Malaysia news you provide, as I said like some they are selectively upload online which quite frustrated. The claims should be focus on whether he is enough [[WP:GNG]] which passed him in previous Afd, but not the statement of "the first person to be known as a foodie in Malaysia", "the earliest ancestor of and the god of gourmet" etc. The focus of your points is a bit out of the track. Arrisontan (talk) 10:00, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- Arrisontan, it is a basic evaluation per WP:RS and common sense. I think it is crystal clear that these tons of extremely low-quality sources in mainland China are cheap press releases and advertorials with countless problems, most of which are obvious enough if it was on zhwiki, such as the chaotic article on Takungpao. Other than those sources in mainland China, most sources in Malaysia are WP:PRIMARY, and so are the three above. And most importantly, none of them support or just mention the claims "the first person to be known as a foodie in Malaysia", "the earliest ancestor of and the god of gourmet" and "World Gourmet Master", as repeated in every source in mainland China. Among Chinese newspapers in Malaysia, Guangming, Kwongwah have online reports as early as 2007[20][21], Overseas Chinese Daily News and Sin Chew Daily as early as 2009[22][23].--虹易 (talk) 09:39, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- Actually I can find some mainstream and online media platform written about his biography and introduce him.
- Arrisontan, the article from Takungpao is even worse than those listed in zhwiki. The text contains numerous grammar, punctuation errors, and chaotic sentences. It seems to be generated by a broken machine instead of a sane human. --虹易 (talk) 11:30, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
- Weak delete Can't comment on the quality of the sources listed. I find one listing from the International Business Times, Singapore, which is an unreliable source. I find nothing else to support notability. Oaktree b (talk) 16:02, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
- Lean weak keep. Sources as mentioned by Silverseren are certainly reliable and meets WP:GNG requirements. I would have voted delete if whole article depended on IBT (which is certainly an unreliable source) but this is not the case. Previous AfD discussed these so repeating them is not effective. 2404:4402:17E5:9C00:E5D8:6E92:7F60:E144 (talk) 01:32, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- @2404:4402:17E5:9C00:E5D8:6E92:7F60:E144:Regardless of the first one, the latter two listed by Silverseren are just content farms & counterfeit websites. How could they be reliable at all?--虹易 (talk) 02:11, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- Just need to change sources, there are no proof that he is not famous in China, some other reliable source that you said from official web can be found
- https://gd.sina.com.cn/news/jk/2022-01-06/detail-ikyamrmz2036790.shtml (Sina Corporation, China mainstream online platform focus on entertainment, life)
- http://whzg.chinareports.org.cn/plus/view.php?aid=12726 (China Reports Network, China state-owned magazines, but need to access through VPN)
- http://hsqz.china.com.cn/chinanet/index.php/Home/Index/readcontent/contentid/27499 (China Internet Information Center, another China state-owned media) Arrisontan (talk) 03:25, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- This has been covered above in @虹易's reply. – robertsky (talk) 03:34, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- Look at the sources, it is consider as original and it is definitely not content farms or counterfeit website. Arrisontan (talk) 03:37, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- i concur with what @虹易 said about these sources (other than the one that needs vpn, which I don't have access at the moment), individually, they are not reliable. I won't comment on the reliability of the sites themselves. Most of these articles were pushed out in Dec 2021 - Jan 2022 period, which to me seems to be a PR/marketing push. If he was truly notable, there should have been continuous stream of news/articles after that, but no, we have yet to see more articles dated after this. – robertsky (talk) 03:50, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- There are still continuous publishing to April, just then it is just relevant to his opinion, so i didnt put up. However, it can still be consider as in a continuous form until now http://www.cassbase.com/html/Exclusive%20information_1690_4006.html Arrisontan (talk) 04:02, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- As is noted in the article, "the original text is excerpted from 'Food Psychology' published in November 2020 in 食公子经典", an autobiography by Liew. Again, at the bottom of the article, familiar sentences: "a famous world gourmet master in Malaysia, an international judge, the ancestor of the god of gourmet, and "a modern gourmet that is as famous as the eight ancient gourmets in China." It is a financial research institution's homepage, not a newspaper. Certainly, it has nothing to do with food and gourmet. And I don't think it has a reporter. How would they happen to know such a person and how could they verify those claims then? Look at that section called "Exclusive reports", it is full of low-quality press releases about random topics irrelevant to finance or ecnomics[24]. --04:41, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- There are still continuous publishing to April, just then it is just relevant to his opinion, so i didnt put up. However, it can still be consider as in a continuous form until now http://www.cassbase.com/html/Exclusive%20information_1690_4006.html Arrisontan (talk) 04:02, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- i concur with what @虹易 said about these sources (other than the one that needs vpn, which I don't have access at the moment), individually, they are not reliable. I won't comment on the reliability of the sites themselves. Most of these articles were pushed out in Dec 2021 - Jan 2022 period, which to me seems to be a PR/marketing push. If he was truly notable, there should have been continuous stream of news/articles after that, but no, we have yet to see more articles dated after this. – robertsky (talk) 03:50, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- Look at the sources, it is consider as original and it is definitely not content farms or counterfeit website. Arrisontan (talk) 03:37, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- This has been covered above in @虹易's reply. – robertsky (talk) 03:34, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- Keep: He's got a significant amount of coverage in Chinese and Malaysian media such as Ta Kung Pao, and given his long spanning career, there's definitely going to be a lot of offline coverage as well. It would be wrong to dismiss him as being non-notable. Babib90 (talk) 00:48, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- Conversely, a lot of reporters/journalists have/had long spanning careers with no notable coverage. All that have been presented so far are his own writings and promotional pieces of him. If there are offline sources, it is highly likely that these maybe his articles as well. Ta Kung Pao was analysed by @虹易 above, and from what they laid out, doesn't seem to be as reliable as you think it is. – robertsky (talk) 09:01, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
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Blacksmoke (group)
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fails wp:nband. lettherebedarklight, 晚安, おやすみなさい 07:20, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
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BLP of a sports executive doesn't seem to meet WP:NBIO - notability isn't inherited from the roles he has held. MrsSnoozyTurtle 00:53, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Delete agree with nom there is no inherent notability from the roles he has had. This article fails WP:BIO. LibStar (talk) 03:36, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- Delete as he fails WP:GNG. WP:NOTINHERITED definitely applies here. Joseph2302 (talk) 07:32, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- Delete - no evidence of notability. GiantSnowman 13:25, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:NOTINHERITED. 99.165.88.9 (talk) 13:26, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
- Keep per WP:HEY. Despite contrary unsupported assertions, clearly meets WP:GNG and WP:ANYBIO. Assertions of WP:NOTINHERITED are specious. With very little effort I was able to find multiple RSs and have added them to the page. Nom and reviewers: Please be mindful of performing proper WP:BEFORE prior to nominating for deletion. An absence of citations on the page is not a reason to nominate the page for deletion: it's a reason to improve the page and add suitable RSs. Cabrils (talk) 01:21, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
- Keep per WP:HEY. Deus et lex (talk) 05:35, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
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Fails WP:GNG - no significant reliable coverage Aoyoigian (talk) 06:32, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
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Linux benchmark utility, does not meet WP:GNG. Alexandermcnabb (talk) 10:08, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Delete, no WP:RS coverage looking at the application as a stand-alone thing. ThadeusOfNazereth(he/they)Talk to Me! 12:29, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
- Keep: What about top, ls, cat, as well as other similar benchmarking software such as geekbench? All of these Linux/Unix commands as well as Geekbench can have their own pages. So why can't Sysbench have its own page as well? — Urban Versis 32KB ⚡ (talk | contribs) 14:19, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
- WP:OTHERTHINGSEXIST, this is not an argument from policy. ThadeusOfNazereth(he/they)Talk to Me! 10:28, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- Delete -
Fairly recent(misread stable release date, 2004 is not recent, but still having trouble finding RS) software package lacking significant coverage in reliable sources. The other software such as top, ls and cat are ubiquitous commands typically used in unix-based operating systems and have coverage in any number of technical manuals / guides and online, so far I have not seen that for this package. ASUKITE 15:45, 2 June 2022 (UTC)- sysbench is actually in all the major linux repo distributions. Also, do a google search and you will find that it has been reliable articles about sysbench. This is described in article and referenced. Please review this and continue this discussion of the merits of the sysbench software. 2600:1702:10B0:7A30:0:0:0:3A (talk) 16:36, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
- To further add to the reply above, when searching for sysbench, you can see results from respected Linux sources, such as Linux Hint, as well as wikis from the biggest Linux distros, such as Gentoo and Ubuntu. In addition, there's even a 17-page manual exclusively for sysbench here. Also note that sysbench comes packaged with most Linux distros (Arch Linux, Slackware, Debian, Ubuntu, CentOS, etc.) I will try to add more sources from this list to the Wikipedia page. — Urban Versis 32KB ⚡ (talk | contribs) 17:14, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
- Keep Software tends to have very few discussions that are in print and reliable. Most discussion happens on messaging boards between users, and so it is hard to meet the threshold for notability.
Finding uses of sysbench in published papers is trivial. A quick google search of sysbench on arXiv yields more than 3000 uses. Most of those are uses of the tool, rather than sources that have enough coverage to assert notability. One exception I've found is an entire chapter in a book on the subject of sysbench.
- [25] Also claims that sysbench is the most used benchmark tool. Paywalled and I don't have access.
I went digging to see what coverage could be found that wasn't trivial in nature. Reliable coverage is drowned out by the numerous uses of sysbench and reporting of benchmark results. I've sifted through and found some things that may or may not be good enough to justify notability. I list them below to generate discussion.
Less good sources, but more coverage than "here are my sysbench results".
- [26] conference talk by creator. Arguably primary source, despite non-creator publication mechanism.
- [27] multiple uses around pp.70-ish. explanation of the tool and using it to benchmark the Raspberry Pi.
- [28] master's thesis with roughly a page of discussion on sysbench.
- [29] this paper states that the test is sometimes called "Multi-threaded System Evaluation Benchmark".
- [30] Talk named "Practical Sysbench". This link is only the slides, so more research could be done to locate the conference proceedings.
I will report back tomorrow with more findings. I will try to gain access to the chapter, which probably includes some sources, or at least good information that could be used. Acebulf (talk | contribs) 06:05, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
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INX Digital Company
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Fails WP:NCORP, no independent coverage in RS Aoyoigian (talk) 06:22, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
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G. Bismark Reeves
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Ineligible for PROD due to 2008 de-PROD by article creator. I don't believe this person meets WP:NPROF. Dean of a college within a university is not a "highest-level" post. Search on Google scholar brings up zero hits for publications. Nothing but Wikipedia mirrors found elsewhere. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 15:55, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Delete Does not pass WP:GNG and I do not believe he meets any other notability requirement. IrishOsita (talk) 21:47, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- Delete does not even come close to having enough sources. We might be able to work around this if there was any meeting of any of the multiple criteria for notability for academics, but there is not. Not every professor at every university is notable.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:32, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
- Comment. This is not a run-of-the-mill professor but former vice president of the University of Liberia, according to our article the oldest degree-granting institution in W Africa. Espresso Addict (talk) 13:37, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
- WP:NPROF gives a pass to highest-level positions, but nothing for second-highest. In fact, the archived staff directory and this AllAfrica article gives his position as "Vice President for Administration", so he's not even the Vice President, he's a Vice President, making it even less relevant to a notability claim.
- I couldn't find a single thing other about the guy or his work anywhere. The Mobius archive cited in the article shows exactly one publication, from 1984 ("Selected wood properties of self-straightening black walnut..."), which when searched on G Scholar brings up zero results except itself, indicating that it made little impact. In fact, according to this, it was only his PhD dissertation. I can't find any evidence that he ever after that published anything in a scholarly journal, at least not one that Google, GBooks, or WMF Library has any records of, so he doesn't meet the influential/impactful criteria of NPROF. Without that, there's nothing. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 19:19, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
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not notable and no reliable source found AlexandruAAlu (talk) 05:56, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
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Normally I wouldn't nominate a page for deletion so soon after creation, but this appears to be an unsalvageable BLP nightmare. ‑ Iridescent 04:13, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
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Fails WP:GNG. Akevsharma (talk) 04:05, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
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Youtuber, sources do not demonstrate in-depth coverage in independent sources. MB 03:57, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
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- With tens of thousands of views this guy probably has a bigger platform than many things we do cover, but I’m not turning up anything that looks like an RS so it’s probably a merge or redirect to Channel Awesome unless something turns up. Artw (talk) 04:32, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
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I've declined a G4 request on this, as the page has almost no similarities to the Western Imperium article deleted in 2010 to which it was claimed to be 'substantially identical'. However, I don't think this is remotely viable as a Wikipedia article. It's not an actual historiographical concept; it's the hyper-fringe notion of a single extremely marginal crackpot, and there's nothing here to suggest this warrants anything more than at most a couple of sentences at Francis Parker Yockey. ‑ Iridescent 03:46, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Redirect to Imperium: The Philosophy of History and Politics, the book which sets forth this concept, and ECP-protect the redirect. This crackpot notion was the subject of a book that we, properly, have an article on. Robert McClenon (talk) 04:38, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
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If anything has changed since 2016, it is a single significant role in a drama film. Nonetheless, this fails GNG and doesn't meet WP:NACTOR either. ─ The Aafī on Mobile (talk) 09:59, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
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Mozambicans in the United Kingdom
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Fails WP:GNG; there is no significant coverage of Mozambicans in the United Kingdom as a group.
Prod removed with the edit summary Removed Proposed deletion/dated tag: let's not quietly pick these off one by one {{AfricansinUK}}
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Romanian Brazilians
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Romanian Brazilians
Articles on this subject have already been deleted, as per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Romanian Brazilians and a G4. I haven't seen the deleted article and so am not tagging this article for another G4. However, the same arguments apply as in the AFD, including not everything is encyclopedic and not enough information to be encyclopedic. The references verify that what is in the article is verifiable. The question is whether the subject is encyclopedic, and it has already been decided once that it is not.
Number | Reference | Remarks | Independent | Significant | Reliable | Secondary |
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1 | brasilia.mae.ro | Says that Romania has an embassy in Brazil | Yes | Not about the subject | Yes | No |
2 | romanialibera.ro | Romanian newspaper - Says that there are 200,000 Romanian Brazilians | Yes | States that the subject group exists | Yes | Yes |
3 | romenos.com.br | An article about one group who emigrated from Romania to Brazil | Yes | Not really | Yes | Yes |
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- The previous article about the same subject has been deleted but it was completely different, the sources i used for this article are also presented in the Romania-Brazil relations article, there are a lot of pages about european diaspora in Brazil, my article is very similar to others such as the Bulgarian one (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulgarian_Brazilians). Vladdy Daddy Silly (talk) 02:58, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
- i added more sources to the page and expanded it with a section about notable romanian brazilians. Vladdy Daddy Silly (talk) 23:32, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
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Lonnetrix
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no significant coverage in RS, including those cited. Does not meet WP:NCORP or WP:NPRODUCT. (t · c) buidhe 01:43, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
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Duqm Port
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Notability of the port seems to be inherited from the UK Joint Logistics Support Base located within it. Regards, MrsSnoozyTurtle 00:22, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
- Speedy keep No deletion rationale (let alone a valid one) provided. The sources in the article seem to be specifically about the port (and the UK logistics base located within it), thus clearly satisfying requirements for SIGCOV. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 00:57, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
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- I see plenty of reliable sources about this port, such as [31], [32], [33] and [34], and have not yet seen one that even mentions the UK base there, so I'm finding it difficult to work out what the nominator is talking about. Phil Bridger (talk) 15:21, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
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Klopman diamond
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The current sources in the article are: A wayback link to Mark Evanier's personal blog, a dead link to a newspaper article that apparently just reprinted the joke, a review of an album containing a reference to the joke, two dead YouTube links, and a jokebook. While there are multiple hits on Google Books, all of them are either jokebooks that just reprint the joke, or works of fiction that use the joke. Not a single one of them discusses the joke's history or origins. Compare the sources in bar joke, which extensively discuss the earliest known origins of it, the common setup, and use literary sources on humor to expound on why the joke is such a standard. Similarly, every result on Newspapers.com was either just a reprint of the joke, or an episode title with "Klopman" in it. The first AFD was kept mostly per WP:ITEXISTS ("it existed before Mark Evanier wrote it into Garfield and Friends, therefore it's notable"). The two books cited as reasons to keep in the first AFD are one that only mentions it in passing, and one that just reprints the joke without commenting on it. The second AFD was kept per the now-404 newspaper article which I am now entirely unable to locate. These were in 2008 and 2010, and surely consensus has changed by now given that the state of sourcing has not improved. Also apropos of nothing, this article is a complete WP:ORPHAN and has been since creation. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 03:18, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Delete. Fails WP:GNG, in particular, WP:SIGCOV. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:11, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
Keyera
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Seems to fail WP:NCORP, the article is mostly sourced to primary sources plus one WP:ROUTINE announcement in a trade publication, and the only sources I could find from a search were similar WP:CORPDEPTH failing routine pieces, plus churnalism in trade publications. Devonian Wombat (talk) 03:10, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Keep - largest midstream gas company in western canada. [35] it has been a 5+ billion dollar company for quite a few years now. itsEnviroFuels (AEF) facility is the largest iso-octane manufacturing plant in the world" [36] it is especially notable today given the uncertainty around oil and gas supplies. it is unique in that it processes NGL, does fractionation, refining, storage, transportation, logistics and marketing services for American and Canadian companies (provides essential services as noted here [37]). energy infrastructure (enbridge/TC) and processing (fractionation) makes it a unique company that "doesn't have competition". has an "industry-leading condensate system" [38] [39] [40].Grmike (talk) 03:19, 19 June 2022 (UTC)grmike
- "one of canada's leading publicly traded companies" [41] . has history the rimbey plant's 50th anniversary was recognized here [42] "won an award for Environmental Excellence in recognition of its environmental management and for voluntarily de-grandfathering its emissions license." canadian politician says "Rocky Mountain House MLA Ty Lund, who attended the celebration, said the Rimbey Gas Plant fills a need in the oil and gas industry. It is a godsend to the industry as it is a processor and there is a real need for that. And they are doing a super job.” [43]. KEYERA is talked about here [44] [45] [46] [47][48][49][50][51]
ITunes Originals – Keith Urban
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Album was not reviewed by any major third-party sources such as Roughstock, Billboard, Country Standard Time, etc. I could find no other coverage beyond the most superficial of mentions and one AllMusic review, which itself is insufficient without any other coverage. Redirect contested. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 02:56, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Keep Hollywood Reporter [52] DonaldD23 talk to me 11:40, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
Spaceman Spiff
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No out-of-universe notability asserted. There are no sources at all in the article, and I was unable to find any that did not originate from Watterson himself except for a few superficial mentions (less than a full sentence) in articles about Calvin and Hobbes. Neither Calvin nor Hobbes has his own article, so it makes zero sense for Spiff to have one. Redirect was contested with rationale of "take it to AFD". Previous AFD was in 2005, when rationales for keeping were vastly different than they are now. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 02:49, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Comment why would you redirect it if there was a prior AfD? That’s clearly not appropriate. Artw (talk) 03:37, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- By what policy? Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 03:42, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- The fact that the first nomination ended in Keep. Why does your opinion overrule the opinion of the participants of the first discussion? DonaldD23 talk to me 11:36, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- By what policy? Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 03:42, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- Delete for its original research. No comment on the other points. NotReallySoroka (talk) 06:20, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
This Christmas (Jessie James Decker EP)
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While it charted, I was unable to find a single review or even the most superficial of coverage. The current sources are a gossip piece about Jessie James Decker that mentions the album in passing, combined with the chart positions and a blank directory listing on AllMusic. Redirect and PROD were both contested without comment. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 02:46, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
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Michaela Metallidou
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Not a notable player Emery Cool21 (talk) 00:44, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
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Irfan Channa
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I don't think this young artist is notable at this time. The only clearly reliable source in the article ([53]) is a single-sentence mention in a piece about an exhibition by "emerging artists"; the remaining sources are mostly unreliable and/or non-independent, and my WP:BEFORE search in several relevant languages found no sources that would satisfy the GNG. None of the WP:NARTIST criteria appear to be met either, in my view. Too soon, perhaps. (NPP action) Extraordinary Writ (talk) 00:36, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Delete no sources found, although I'm only able to search in English. As others have stated, no other sources. Oaktree b (talk) 02:33, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
Citizen: I'm Not Losing My Mind, I'm Giving It Away
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Fails WP:SIGCOV, WP:NFO and WP:NFSOURCES. I did a WP:BEFORE and found nothing at Newspapers.com.
The fact that it’s Whoopi Goldberg’s debut film appearance doesn’t make it notable per WP:NOTINHERITED. Even if she had significant involvement in the film per WP:NFO, the article lacks reliable source coverage. The Film Creator (talk) 19:22, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Comment No sources for the film, zillions of hits for Whoopi in connection to the film. Non-notable film. Oaktree b (talk) 00:20, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
- Redirect to William_Farley_(director)#Film_career. The individual film doesn't seem to be notable, but it's covered enough in his article to justify redirecting it there. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (。◕‿◕。) 15:22, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Redirect to William_Farley_(director)#Film_career. I am in agreement with ReaderofthePack on this, although I would not be opposed to maintaining the article. Capt. Milokan (talk) 01:40, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- Redirect as suggested, seems the most logical. Oaktree b (talk) 02:34, 19 June 2022 (UTC)