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question re board elections
is the election for WMF board still active? what's the status of that? I just happened on a discussion of that topic. I am chagrined that I commented there, as it was an archived discussion, and I did not realize it at the time. any updates on that? I am sorry to ask this basic question here. by the way, I am not suggesting myself as a candidate for this election, just to be clear. thanks.--Sm8900 (talk) 18:30, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
- Hi everyone. okay, I want to repost the highly-important notice below, which I found at this archive page. I'm a little perturbed that this announcement could simply be archived, instead of kept visible on a long-term basis.
if no one objects, I plan to post the notice below at Community Portal, to make sure this gets at least some genuine visibility. I hope that's ok? thanks.
Hello everyone! There is an open Call for Candidates for the 2022 Board of Trustees election. Find out more on the Apply to be a Candidate page. Xeno (WMF) (talk) 01:05, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
- The seats to be filled this year were previously selected by affiliates in the m:Affiliate-selected Board seats/2019 process. This year, a different method will be used:
- Candidates submit their applications (by May 9; this deadline may be slightly extended);
- Any community member can become a candidate if they meet the general and special conditions outlined here.
- Affiliates vote to short list six (6) names from the candidates' pool.
- Each affiliate carries one vote. The affiliate vote is scheduled to take place in early July.
- The Community votes to elect two of the six shortlisted candidates.
- Community Voting is scheduled to begin on August 15 and end on August 29.
- The Board will appoint the two newly-elected candidates as the new Trustees.
- This final step, which will conclude the election process, is expected to take place in early October 2022.
@Election Volunteers: ( "{{@EVs}}" ) <-- The Movement Strategy and Governance team is inviting local users to help publicize the different stages of the election . Feel free to add your name here. Thanks in advance, and to those who have already registered.
If you have any questions, please post them here, on Meta-wiki, or reach out to me directly.
Kindly cross-post and advertise widely.
Best regards,
Xeno (WMF) (talk) 01:05, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
thanks. --Sm8900 (talk) 19:09, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Sm8900: It's an old notice, and shouldn't have been revived. It concerns a "Call for Candidates", a phase that is now over (see m:Wikimedia Foundation elections/2022#Timeline) - as shown above, it closed on 9 May - a month ago. As certain later stages are approached, further announcements will be made. Xeno (WMF), do you have anything else to add? --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 06:51, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for the interest and ping Sm8900 & Redrose64. The current stage involves affiliate representatives asking questions to candidates and then voting to shortlist six candidates for a community vote in the later half of August. I'll post more details about that below. Xeno (WMF) (talk) 10:40, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
2022 Board of Trustees Call for Candidates closed
- You can find this message translated into additional languages on Meta-wiki.
The 2022 Board of Trustees election Call for Candidates has now closed. This Call led 12 candidates from ther community to submit their applications. Learn more about the 2022 Board of Trustees candidates.
The Analysis Committee will now consider the candidates’ applications with the skills and criteria provided by the Board. The trustees seek certain skills and competencies to improve the capacity of the Board. After the Analysis Committee completes their review, the ratings of each candidate will be published. These ratings are for informational purposes only.
For more information about the 2022 Board election, you may find the timeline, voting information and other ways to get involved on Meta-wiki.
Thank you for your support,
Movement Strategy and Governance on behalf of the Elections Committee and the Board of Trustees
Xeno (WMF) (talk) 10:40, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
- this is very helpful. thanks for the post. as far as the relevance and timeliness of past posts, that's entirely true... but maybe we also should have a page here in the project namespace, simply to document the entire process? would that be ok? should I create Wikipedia: WMF Board elections 2022, simply to provide one logical place which editors can refer to later, and where we will have some record and some data about the entire length of the process, to create some record that we can refer to later?
- I think that might be rather helpful and relevant to the editing community. please feel free to share any comments. thanks!!! Sm8900 (talk) 14:08, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
- by the way, I am supplying some alternate names below, simply to; a) see if the articles are already created, and also b) see which options people might prefer. thanks!
- some possible page names might include Wikipedia: WMF Board elections, Wikipedia: Board elections, Wikipedia: WMF governance, Wikipedia:WMF roles. thanks! Sm8900 (talk) 14:29, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
- I have created a draft of a possible page, at User:Sm8900/Index/Drafts/Wikipedia:Wikimedia Foundation elections. it is not fully finished, and I need to edit it a bit; right now I simply copied and pasted some text over, from a page at the meta site. --Sm8900 (talk) 15:54, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Sm8900: Please don't do any of this. Leave it to those who are actually organising this very important appointment, which goes far, far beyond the English Wikipedia. In short: if you are not a WMF employee, stick to reading about the candidates. You may vote when the time comes, but don't interfere with the process. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 22:57, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Redrose64:it is not interfering to simply make a suggestion. Sm8900 (talk) 03:10, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
- also i don't see your comment as addressing my suggestion. Sm8900 (talk) 03:11, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
- It is far too late to change the process for this year. If you want to make suggestions as to how future elections might be conducted, the place to do so is at m:Talk:Wikimedia Foundation elections (on Meta - not English Wikipedia), but don't be disappointed if your suggestions are not taken up next time. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 09:55, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
- I entirely agree. I do not seek to change the process in any way. your point on that is totally valid and spot-on. my only goal here is to create just a few, basic, incremental efforts to create some resources here, which might help the editing community to be more aware of and receptive to knowledge and updates about the existing efforts and processes now which relate to WMF governance, and current particpatory processes such as the elections, etc.
- however, again, your point about the non-feasibility of trying to change this existing current process in any way is totally accurate, in my opinion. I agree with you on that. thanks!! Sm8900 (talk) 18:04, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
- It is far too late to change the process for this year. If you want to make suggestions as to how future elections might be conducted, the place to do so is at m:Talk:Wikimedia Foundation elections (on Meta - not English Wikipedia), but don't be disappointed if your suggestions are not taken up next time. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 09:55, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Sm8900: Please don't do any of this. Leave it to those who are actually organising this very important appointment, which goes far, far beyond the English Wikipedia. In short: if you are not a WMF employee, stick to reading about the candidates. You may vote when the time comes, but don't interfere with the process. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 22:57, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
- I have created a draft of a possible page, at User:Sm8900/Index/Drafts/Wikipedia:Wikimedia Foundation elections. it is not fully finished, and I need to edit it a bit; right now I simply copied and pasted some text over, from a page at the meta site. --Sm8900 (talk) 15:54, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
I am starting the navbox below as one possible model and idea for how to group links together, in a coherent format, that might be beneficial to the editing community, in raising awareness in a helpful and convenient way, to provide a convenient overview of pages that relate to various current governance resources, elections, events, processes, and various other relevant links and resources.
I am not presenting this here for formal approval here right now; once I have developed this draft version somewhat, I plan to present this sometime in the future. I simply wanted to provide a look at this draft in progress, simply to illustrate one possible approach to helping the community to find information items more easily and more effectively.
even though this is simply a partial and incomplete initial draft. I'm willing to engage in a collegial discussion, if anyone wishes to offer any input. thanks!!
- INCOMPLETE DRAFT VERSION OF POSSIBLE NAVBOX:
--Sm8900 (talk) 22:06, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
- Your draft doesn't have any place for non-local events such as Wikipedia:WikiConference North America or m:Wikimania 2022. WhatamIdoing (talk) 20:44, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
Note bundles
Hi, I've tried reading the notes on the EFN template but when I try to separate notes by type it doesn't seem to do anything. I'm interested in separating the ref bundles on The Dark Knight (film) from the actual notes, so creating two separate groups that are displayed independently. Is that something that is possible? Darkwarriorblake / SEXY ACTION TALK PAGE! 08:44, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
- I don't exactly understand what you are trying to do here. If you want to have two separate lists of notes, then a different listing scheme is required, one list using {{notelist}} and {{efn}} (lower-alpha), and another list using e.g. {{notelist-lr}} and {{efn-lr}} (lower roman numerals). 50.75.226.250 (talk) 14:57, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
- Ah Ok I thought you could just add a name to {{notelist}} and create a separate grouping. Basically, I have notes that are explainers, and notes that are just bundles of several references and I wanted to split them out. Darkwarriorblake / SEXY ACTION TALK PAGE! 10:50, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
- By "bundles" I am assuming you are referring to notes that include several nested references (with note text "Attributed to multiple references"). Imo, this is superfluous. You can directly call the multiple references inline. If this offends aesthetically, maybe you can limit the number of related references. If there is one or two reliable references that support the particular wikitext, that is enough. Once something is proven, adding more proof is unnecessary. Alternatively, you may call the reference(s) within
{{efn}}
by using its/their{{harv}}
anchor(s), a method that may give a more literal hint to readers. 68.132.154.35 (talk) 15:04, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
- By "bundles" I am assuming you are referring to notes that include several nested references (with note text "Attributed to multiple references"). Imo, this is superfluous. You can directly call the multiple references inline. If this offends aesthetically, maybe you can limit the number of related references. If there is one or two reliable references that support the particular wikitext, that is enough. Once something is proven, adding more proof is unnecessary. Alternatively, you may call the reference(s) within
- Ah Ok I thought you could just add a name to {{notelist}} and create a separate grouping. Basically, I have notes that are explainers, and notes that are just bundles of several references and I wanted to split them out. Darkwarriorblake / SEXY ACTION TALK PAGE! 10:50, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
"Expert" in something
If the media consider a person as an expert in something should I add this into the article or should I refrain from it and instead list reasons why one might think this person is an expert? --Igor Yalovecky (talk) 14:10, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Igor Yalovecky it "depends" - does it make the article better? Many biographies use that term. Consider the context, and the reliability of the source. There is certainly a stronger call for that sort of language if someone is regularly an expert witness in trials - maybe less so if they are an expert at something subjective. — xaosflux Talk 14:32, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
- Also, the language used in wikitext is important, since that language, as well as its meaning is what is proven by citations: e.g. you could say "considered an expert by the media", or "an expert (according to press reports)" etc. It is a different approach if one is nominated an expert within their field of expertise. A professional book on programming or chemistry or history may refer to a person as an expert, or it may cite the person's work as an expert source. In that case I believe it is safe to drop the references to the media/press views, and just state, "considered an expert" or "an expert". 50.75.226.250 (talk) 14:47, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
- Generally, "expert" is an unhelpfully vague term, which few WP articles use. I've been an "expert witness" in a rather large court case myself, but if I had a WP bio, I don't think I should be described as an "expert". Being a "frequent expert witness in trials" is a different matter. Johnbod (talk) 17:38, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Johnbod Agreed, it’s too often misused as an argument from authority Doug Weller talk 18:10, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
- "Expert" is like "philanthropist"; a fluffy word thrown into bios as puffery. Experts do indeed exist, but often something like "scholar who specializes in research on X" is both more neutral and informative than "is an expert on X". Expert should almost never be used in wiki-voice, unless it is claim explicitly supported by secondary sources like "considered an expert in topic X by other researchers." "Expert witness" is a different, legal category and role. -Indy beetle (talk) 07:37, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
Wikimedia Foundation fundraising campaign in Denmark, Israel, Malaysia, Norway, and Portugal (August 2022)
Dear community members,
I am reaching out to you all today to inform you on the upcoming Wikimedia Foundation fundraising campaign in Denmark, Israel, Malaysia, Norway, and Portugal.
We will be showing banners on Wikipedia in Denmark, Israel, Malaysia, Norway, and Portugal from the 2nd to the 30th of August. Prior to this, we are planning to run some pre-tests in July, so you might see banners, if you are logged out of your Wikipedia account, before the campaign starts. This will ensure that our technical infrastructure works. We are currently working on the messages for the banners and I will share examples with you later.
Generally, before and during the campaign, you can contact us:
- On the talk page of the fundraising team
- If you need to report a bug or technical issue, please create a phabricator ticket
- If you see a donor on a talk page, VRT or social media having difficulties in donating, please refer them to donatewikimedia.org
Please let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks you and regards,
Julia JBrungs (WMF) (talk) 09:41, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- Could we have information on why those regions are selected? Perhaps lower visitor-to-donator ratio? Or is it editor-to-donator ratio? I am curious at the numbers. ✠ SunDawn ✠ (contact) 09:48, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- We run our campaigns across many countries and in continuous communication with the local affiliates and communities. Including numerous countries in our fundraising efforts ensures that donations come from many donors which helps Wikipedia and the Wikimedia projects stay independent. The campaigns are seen roughly once a year by the communities and we are lucky to have readers across the world who support us. JBrungs (WMF) (talk) 12:57, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
Everscale article moved to draft.
Hello dear moderators. I saw that Everscale article was moved to draft, the reason given was that the article had few authoritative sources, however on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources pages I see some of reliable sources which have publications/articles/news about Everscale. For example, Bloomberg, Insider, Kommersant, Forbes, Entrepreneur etc. You can read more about it on Draft_talk:Everscale page. Please help solve the issue. Sebirkhan 💪🏿💪🏾Sebirkhan💪🏿💪🏾|talk 20:59, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
- You can move this advertisement back to main space if you want, but don't be surprised if it is then nominated for deletion at WP:AFD. Do you really think that being in the top two hundred blockchains is an indication of notability? Maybe being in the top two is. Phil Bridger (talk) 21:12, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
- I can tell you about other projects that are on wikipedia and have less citations and media coverage. But I know what you will say about Wikipedia not being an argument. On the other hand, it's weird. Sebirkhan (talk) 10:43, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
- If you tell us about these other offending articles we can see that they get deleted, too. This would remove the oddity you mention.--User:Khajidha (talk) (contributions) 19:16, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- I can tell you about other projects that are on wikipedia and have less citations and media coverage. But I know what you will say about Wikipedia not being an argument. On the other hand, it's weird. Sebirkhan (talk) 10:43, 18 June 2022 (UTC)