Levivich complains about geese and gander
You created User:Nableezy/LV in January (you weirdo). You're allowed to have such things if you're about to file a case request or something. Five months is too long. File the case or delete the page. Levivich 14:48, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
- So let me get this straight. You make several false claims about me on your talk page, several personal attacks, ban me from your talk page, remove my response to your personal attacks, and personally attack me again on your talk page and then come here to personally attack me once more? And you fault me for documenting this series? Lets run this down for the TPS.
- You once said I'd like to see three diffs of anyone defending Icewhiz socks or denying that Icewhiz was socking.
- Now this isnt Icewhiz, but here and here is you standing up in defence of an editor that was in fact a sockpuppet of a banned user. And here you are restoring an edit by an editor you say no doubt is a sock. Whats that about diffs of editors defending socks?
- As far as the current set of attacks;
- Here you make a specious claim of harassment, a personal attack violating WP:ASPERSIONS, and you follow that up with further personal attacks and a false claim of "making things up". In a post in which you demonstrably make things up, claiming I said something I never said. You then remove my response to your personal attack while retaining the personal attack.
- In that diff you also show incredible hypocrisy, claiming that it is bad enough I argued for you to be blocked, to your face on your talk page, in a dispute that did not involved me, yet you have a history of doing exactly that except with the underhanded addition of going directly to an admin to ask that your target be blocked, for example here
- You then continue with the personal attacks, with your edit summary calling me a "stalker", while incidentally showing you are looking through my contributions, also known as hounding or less politely as stalking
- And then you show up here, after having banned me from your talk page, to further attack me. You call me a "weirdo" without any provocation whatsoever. And the hypocrisy in banning me from your own talk page to antagonize me here is just special. nableezy - 16:14, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
- And you just cant help yourself from repeating personal attacks and specious claims of harassment. Demonstrating why the need to collate diffs to begin with. nableezy - 17:03, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
- And then raises the bar on personal attacks to claim my being psychotic. Im pretty sure at least one of us has a solid grip on reality, and I only make comments about my own mental state ... nableezy - 17:45, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
This is all done at ANI seems like, but I did just notice (I also today Googled "levivich nableezy" and found where he's you've been talking about me off-wiki). "found where he's you've been talking" reads as though somebody sent you that talking point and you only half corrected changing it from their words "find where he's been talking about" and neglected to remove the he's. It also beggars belief that you were not aware of the one thread on WPO where I believe I have ever mentioned you anywhere besides this website, given how extensively that was discussed in the case request you were involved in, but no matter. Ah well, curiosities curiosities. nableezy - 23:29, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
Maariv
In your experience, does this source merit a review at WP:RSN? All I can see by way of past discussion is mentions of it as a tabloid, which is never a good start, and that definitely seems to be its flavour, but my alarm bells have been set ringing in particular by this piece of right-wing race-baiting vitriol that basically casts aspersions on mixed Israeli Arab/West Bank Palestinian families due to some people from these backgrounds being involved in some of 2021 riots. It then uses this in turn to rail against family reunification. It quotes 'research' by a group called "ערי ישראל" or someting like "cities of Israel", which appears to be an organization of little note, that was ascertained by researching the families of those detained (an arbitrary sample) followed by some Facebook stalking - in any case, this anecdotal crap is a torch that Maarive happily picks up and runs with without any apparent claims of factchecking or any mention of even a hint of skepticism about the veracity of the findings. On the contrary, it willingly embellishes the evidence, turning the figures about 'those detained during rioting' from the 'research' into 'those involved in terrorism' in the headline. I understand that sources are allowed to be biased, but this one frankly just seems to be full on racist. At no point does it offer any counter perspectives of any kind. It frankly takes the piss as journalism. If no factchecking or alternative viewpoints exist, is such reporting even truly secondary? Iskandar323 (talk) 06:26, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
- I saw that edit, sounded like red meat for the pro Citizenship law crowd. Don't come across Maariv very much, it's Hebrew only, seems "populist", I don't think it ranks very highly even in Israel.Selfstudier (talk) 08:41, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
- Third biggest paper in Israel. No English version so doesnt get as much attention here. nableezy - 13:15, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
- That isnt cited anywhere as far as I can see? Is that a column or reporting? I dont generally like how RSN has become a place to make broad claims against sources. Some like Arutz Sheva are just so shit they should never be cited, but for most things there are shades of gray. Id say this one piece is unreliable. I think RSN should deal with is this source reliable for this statement, not is this website allowed or not allowed on Wikipedia. nableezy - 13:14, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
- Honestly I can't tell if its a column or reporting, and the writer's bio says journalist/columnist, so really not sure how to read it. But tabloids have been known to blur the boundaries. For me, it reads slightly more like 'reporting', just written out in a polemical format. But maybe it's just this piece. I do understand your point RE: WP:RSN. Thanks for your input. Iskandar323 (talk) 13:22, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
HR/Palestine
Normally, HR issues are dealt with in the articles for each country or in a spin out from those eg Human rights in the State of Palestine and that would cover hr matters in those countries.
The difficulty with Palestine/SOP/oPt is the occupation ie there are HR matters that are cross border so we have Human rights in Israel#Human rights in the occupied territories which looks odd since the territories are not in Israel.
I am thinking of making a new article along the lines of "Israeli Practices Affecting the Human Rights of the Palestinian People" (which is the wording used in the resolution that gets passed every year in the GA.)
Do you have any thoughts on this/ what the title might be?
Selfstudier (talk) 12:05, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- Think it belong in the Israel page, and the Palestine page should be about human rights violations by the Palestinian authorities. nableezy - 18:43, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- I'll just leave it then. Selfstudier (talk) 19:00, 14 June 2022 (UTC)