Paolo Signorelli (footballer)
When moving pages please ensure that you create disambig pages/fix incoming links etc. GiantSnowman 18:56, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
- Any reason why you aborted your attempt to AFD the footballer? GiantSnowman 19:05, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
Would you be interested
in working on User:Doug Weller/Draft:Goyim Defense League? I think the network's recent activities have made it notable.[1][2] Doug Weller talk 09:20, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
- Greetings, Doug Weller. The subject certainly meets the notability criteria. And the draft seems fine. I'd suggest you hoist it up at your convenience. Take care. -The Gnome (talk) 11:15, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
RFC
Hello The Gnome,
I hope I don't come across as too grumpy here, but - can I convince you to withdraw the RFC you made? As others have pointed out, it seems designed to ensure that if any change happens, it happens exceedingly slowly, or that the proposal entirely fails for being uselessly vague. With all respect, you should not have been the one to reopen this discussion - that burden should be on advocates of a change. Procedural listings are fine when the locus of action is obvious (e.g. AFD), but not for this case. I'm in favor of removing Portal links but I can't even blame people voting against this proposal because it doesn't say what it's going to do, which is a major violation of what would make a good RFC.
Finally I recognize that you were probably trying to do a good deed to kick the process forward after JBchrch said he wouldn't be filing the next round of the RFC himself, but you know what they say about no good deed goes unpunished... SnowFire (talk) 23:56, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
- Seeing how it's playing out, I have to concur. Could you please withdraw the RfC before it becomes any messier? {{u|Sdkb}} talk 01:13, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for the input, SnowFire and Sdkb. I'm withdrawing the RfC. Take care. -The Gnome (talk) 08:55, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
Please Stop Doing This
I have already explained to you several times why copy editing articles in a manner that leaves uncited paragraphs or changes direct quotes is counterproductive. The question is why do you keep doing this again and again? On a separate note inserting footnotes to the lede goes contrary to WP:LEDE. I believe that an editor with 15 years under their belt should know better than that. If you continue to copyedit articles in a disruptive manner I will have no option but to go to ANI.--Catlemur (talk) 11:17, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
- First of all, Catlemur, calm down. I'm at a loss as to what you're on about. First, I added wikilinks to the article's opening paragraph: Nothing in WP:MOSLEAD against that; on the contrary, it's standard practice. Second, the change for which you're complaining (and threatening me with "going to the administrators' noticeboard") is dated 17 February 2022: After your explaining here, on the 26th, the error of my editing, I simply let your correction in place. There has been no editing from my part since that time except for this one, which is entirely unrelated to your previous objections. There has been no change from "direct quotes." I have, as it happens, Wilson's tome, among other authors' works, on the Thirty Year War, and do follow strictly the sources' texts.
- A final note, in case that is the crux of your complaint (I'm guessing, perforce): The phrases shouted by the conspirators while rushing into the dining room as well as the responses by the conspirators already in the room are not consistently denoted across the aforementioned works. The relevant articles, and particularly the article on the assassination itself, should reflect that, instead of offering as definite merely one source's content. -The Gnome (talk) 13:20, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
- First of all, why are you talking about wikilinks, when the issue I pointed out in your most recent edit to the Trčka von Lípa article was about footnotes? Then you proceed to claim that a diff from 4 March 2022 is dated to 17 February 2022. The crux of my complaint was never the change of direct quote, but lets address that as well. I also have Wilson's book an you can see here that it is indeed a direct quote. Now the argument that the phrases shouted are documented differently in various sources is a fair one, but you cannot go about changing the quote without changing the accompanying footnote. I will repeat my main point for what seems to be the 4th time. If you want to split a fully cited article's paragraphs for whatever reason, add the accompanying footnotes so that no paragraph is left uncited.--Catlemur (talk) 14:08, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
- This is, for me, getting tiring. Let's try to go gordian: Do you find anything objectionable with the article Assassination of Wallenstein, and particularly the section titled "Massacre," as it now stands? -The Gnome (talk) 18:22, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
- I have no idea why you keep changing topics. Had I had any objections about the Assassination of Wallenstein I would have raised them. Just please stop disrupting the referencing of articles I have written, that's it.--Catlemur (talk) 19:13, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
- The best I can fathom from this exchange is that, in the course of me changing (trying to improve) the text format of the articles in question, e.g. separating sections, etc, some referencing might have been lost. I do not understand how this happened but I trust your testimony that this was indeed the case. Well, I'm sorry if this has happened and the only further contribution I intend to make to these Wallenstein-related articles is consolidate the information we have about the details of the killings, as such, on the basis of available sources. By the way, as you know, I'm not the first contributor to suggest you adopt a calmer tone of coversation here. (See the same suggestion by The Banner.) For instance, the admin. board should be a kind of last refuge and not an authority to which we resort so easily. Anyway, one indication for the reason you're getting excited about all this could be your words "articles I have written". Though I sincerely salute your eagerness to safequard the articles' accuracy, titles, and so on, I remind you that we do not own any Wikipedia article whatsoever, no matter how important our contributions to them. Take care. -The Gnome (talk) 09:29, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
- The problem with text conversations is that its impossible for people to understand what my real demeanor is. Both The Banner and you have incorrectly assumed that I am angry for one reason or another. I mentioned ANI only after I had to repeat the same thing 4 times only for you to completely miss the point I was making. I assumed good faith repeatedly but after some point it just becomes a case of WP:IDIDNTHEARTHAT. Since you implied that I am practicing article ownership, I will clarify another obvious thing: If you continue to disrupt the referencing of articles I have never edited without an adequate explanation I will still go to ANI. Farewell.--Catlemur (talk) 09:52, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
- I did not imply anything; merely offered a potential explanation for your evident anger. You're of course free to do as you choose. Intense work, such as the (actually admirable and many) contributions you've made to historical articles, often makes the parties behind them intolerant of what they perceive to be low-quality work of others. But maybe there's some other cause; I don't know. In any case, your repetition of threats is hereby and categorically rejected as offensive and unacceptable, and, as a first step, I demand that you refrain from any further, direct communication with me. Anything you want to raise in the future that is related to me and my humble contributions here take it to the authorities. I have no time for squabbles. Fare thee well. -The Gnome (talk) 10:06, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
- This is the second time you claim others are evil based on nothing. Be aware that going to AN/I can result in meeting a boomerang. The Banner talk 10:25, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
- The problem with text conversations is that its impossible for people to understand what my real demeanor is. Both The Banner and you have incorrectly assumed that I am angry for one reason or another. I mentioned ANI only after I had to repeat the same thing 4 times only for you to completely miss the point I was making. I assumed good faith repeatedly but after some point it just becomes a case of WP:IDIDNTHEARTHAT. Since you implied that I am practicing article ownership, I will clarify another obvious thing: If you continue to disrupt the referencing of articles I have never edited without an adequate explanation I will still go to ANI. Farewell.--Catlemur (talk) 09:52, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
- The best I can fathom from this exchange is that, in the course of me changing (trying to improve) the text format of the articles in question, e.g. separating sections, etc, some referencing might have been lost. I do not understand how this happened but I trust your testimony that this was indeed the case. Well, I'm sorry if this has happened and the only further contribution I intend to make to these Wallenstein-related articles is consolidate the information we have about the details of the killings, as such, on the basis of available sources. By the way, as you know, I'm not the first contributor to suggest you adopt a calmer tone of coversation here. (See the same suggestion by The Banner.) For instance, the admin. board should be a kind of last refuge and not an authority to which we resort so easily. Anyway, one indication for the reason you're getting excited about all this could be your words "articles I have written". Though I sincerely salute your eagerness to safequard the articles' accuracy, titles, and so on, I remind you that we do not own any Wikipedia article whatsoever, no matter how important our contributions to them. Take care. -The Gnome (talk) 09:29, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
- I have no idea why you keep changing topics. Had I had any objections about the Assassination of Wallenstein I would have raised them. Just please stop disrupting the referencing of articles I have written, that's it.--Catlemur (talk) 19:13, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
- This is, for me, getting tiring. Let's try to go gordian: Do you find anything objectionable with the article Assassination of Wallenstein, and particularly the section titled "Massacre," as it now stands? -The Gnome (talk) 18:22, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
- First of all, why are you talking about wikilinks, when the issue I pointed out in your most recent edit to the Trčka von Lípa article was about footnotes? Then you proceed to claim that a diff from 4 March 2022 is dated to 17 February 2022. The crux of my complaint was never the change of direct quote, but lets address that as well. I also have Wilson's book an you can see here that it is indeed a direct quote. Now the argument that the phrases shouted are documented differently in various sources is a fair one, but you cannot go about changing the quote without changing the accompanying footnote. I will repeat my main point for what seems to be the 4th time. If you want to split a fully cited article's paragraphs for whatever reason, add the accompanying footnotes so that no paragraph is left uncited.--Catlemur (talk) 14:08, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
John Lott archive
TG, would you look into the John Lott move and the loss of the archive? A new one has just been created but I believe a previous one was lost. As an example this edit/discussion is not in the current archive [3]. Thanks Springee (talk) 00:53, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
- Greetings, Springee. I see that the archiving was performed by lowercase sigmabot III. I believe you should take this up with Σ, its operator. This is a rather important issue, since we place full trust in bots to perform such routine tasks automatically. -The Gnome (talk) 14:50, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
- What a royal mess that discussion has turned out to be. An episode that's truly disappointing to the people who admire and support the Wikipedia project. For the record. -The Gnome (talk) 09:12, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
Admin abuse incident
Hello The Gnome. I didn't even realize that the John Lott page move editor was an Admin. I note that, despite the protests they did not respond in any constructive way or even with respectful dissent. I wonder whether it's worth nominating them for desysop or at least a stiff sanction of some sort? What do you think? SPECIFICOtalk 12:11, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
- Greetings, SPECIFICO. Is one episode on its own enough for the removal of admin privileges or even for a sanction? I don't know. The rejection of such a nomination would perhaps make furher ones more difficult. It might be better to try and reason with that specific admin in his talk page. Thanks for the input in that issue. -The Gnome (talk) 17:30, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
- Well, it's surely not a good use of our real-life time to pursue a desysop. But they had several opportunities to respond and chose not to do so. There's no doubt in my mind the project would be better off w.o. such behavior empowered by the Admin tools. Who knows what they might do next? I have not looked at their history. Thanks for your reply. SPECIFICO talk 17:35, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
Deprodding of The Best Sex Ever
I have removed the {{proposed deletion/dated}}
tag from The Best Sex Ever, which you proposed for deletion. I'm leaving this message here to notify you about it. If you still think this article should be deleted, please do not add {{proposed deletion}}
back to the page. Instead, feel free to list it at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. Thanks! --Sangdeboeuf (talk) 18:37, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
Discretionary sanctions alert
After a non-atypical dispute over the content of a BLP with two other editors, one of them found it appropriate to place a DSA on this page. So