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before the question. Again, welcome! Ceoil sláinte 19:23, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
Shankill butchers
ok, there's no problem in reverting if I'm wrong about things but you should check some of the points made. Regards, 14:29, 27 May 2009 (UTC) bigpad (talk) 14:32, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
Robert Bates (loyalist)
Thanks for creating this article! I was wondering about some further citation, especially about the freeing under the agreement. Most prisoners were released post 1998. How did Bates get released before the agreement was signed. His death occurred almost eight month be for the signing. This looks rather inconsistent if not infactual. Mootros (talk) 16:00, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
- Hi, you are quite right and thank you for pointing this out. I'll correct the error.
Billsmith60 (talk) 19:48, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
- Actually, I think what happened was that he was released on parole in preparation for the signing of the agreement. But because he was killed before the actual signing he didn't fall under the general release. Or could there have been another way why he was out, especially since there no parole option for him? Or there any citations how this was overturned? Many thanks! Mootros (talk) 09:08, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
- That's along the right lines: it's wasn't through the Agreement that he was released (on parole/licence), I'd say, but through the confidence-buildings measures, esp. proposed prisoner releases, that were flagged up from an early date as being a prerequisite for paramilitary support of any agreement that might be made. But finding a citation for this will be v. difficult! Billsmith60 (talk) 10:58, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
- Actually, I think what happened was that he was released on parole in preparation for the signing of the agreement. But because he was killed before the actual signing he didn't fall under the general release. Or could there have been another way why he was out, especially since there no parole option for him? Or there any citations how this was overturned? Many thanks! Mootros (talk) 09:08, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
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Davy Payne
Billsmith, thank you for pointing out my error. Feel free to edit anything I wrote that you believe is incorrect. I appreciate your information. It appears that Payne and White were the UFF's main operators in the Shankill Road area. But as you rightly pointed out, Payne was not the second-in-command of the entire group, just the Shankill brigade. What do you think of the article as it now stands?--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 09:40, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
Robin Jackson
Thanks for the additions to the article. I added the urls as you requested, but I cannot seem to get them to show on the page (just the blue number). I have never been able to figure out how to do urls.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:47, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
William McGrath (loyalist)
Hi there. In this edit [1], you post some content that could easily be considered defamatory in the biography of a living person. You cite this [2] source, which really doesn't back up the claims you make. Any negative edits to a BLP needs to be backed up, in their entirety, by sources. Best, --Bfigura (talk) 03:21, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
Manners
- Yes, please stop your tiresome reverts and act constructively. Thanks, Billsmith60 (talk) 13:25, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
- Excuse me, BillSmith! I don't know if you've edited Wikipedia very long, but there are guidelines here as to how to behave when communicating with your fellow editors. Insulting them and not assuming good faith is not considered proper conduct.
- In retort, it was not I who reverted your edits in the first place, but rather you who reverted my edits - with no explanation! One might consider that practice to be "tiresome". In the future, perhaps you might like to engage in dialogue with an editor instead of merely reverting edits for no apparent reason. --86.12.24.209 (talk) 15:04, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
- Ok, fair enough. Do you think it is good manners to do a number of edits, all of which were reversed by a vigilant editor (thank goodness), under the edit summary "The sky is blue"? No one will take you seriously if you act in this way. I think "RepublicanJacobite" has explained things sufficiently well to you. You can clearly make a constructive contribution to Wiki, if you choose. Please do so! Regards, Billsmith60 (talk) 13:11, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
- Again, by informing me of my ability to make a constructive contribution, you are implying that I chose specifically not to in the case of the edits you, 'O Fenian' and RepublicanJacobite seem to have problems with. In that sense you have not assumed good faith and I can assure you the edits were made in good faith by the fact that there was precedent iwht regard other, similar articles.
- And yes - I do think it is good manners to do a number of reverts with an edit comment explaining a Wikipedia guideline. Here is the guideline in question, if you care to read it: WP:FACTS. I also think I have explained things sufficiently well to both yourself and RepublicanJacobite. --86.12.24.209 (talk) 21:09, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
John McMichael
Hello Billsmith, I have just added an infobox to the John McMichael article. Would you happen to know his date and place of birth? Thank you.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 15:46, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
- Hi there, I don't know [his DOB] off hand but will see what I can find out. As he was 38 when he died in late 1987, he's very likely to have been born in 1949. He was from Lisburn, that I'm quite sure of, and owned a bar there for some years. Regards, Billsmith60 (talk) 20:52, 4 December 2010 (UTC). Billsmith60 (talk) 20:56, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks, Bill.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:17, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
Paramilitary / Member of a paramilitary
Altho it's sometimes used in the press, the sentence "Joe is a paramilitary" is wrong. It's the same as saying "Joe is a military", "Joe is an army", "Joe is a navy" or "Joe is an airforce". Like a military, a paramilitary is an organization. Thus, the proper wording would be "Joe is a member of a paramilitary". ~Asarlaí 14:04, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
Davy Payne
I just uploaded the Davy Payne file, but it's been tagged with a Speedy Deletion tag.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 15:31, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
The Eagle
At the junction of Spier's Place and the Shankill, there's mural dedicated to Frenchie Marchant. I am awed by your knowledge of the Belfast UVF. Was Ken Gibson the UVF Chief of Staff prior to Bunter?--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 14:46, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
Jim Hanna
Hi Bill, I raised a question over on Talk:Jim Hanna (loyalist).--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 12:30, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
Parroting Dillon on Lennie Murphy
Yes I was, unfortunately I read it more than a decade ago and don't have the book to check which is his stuff. It can't be left as it is, he is going to have to be mentioned "Martin Dillon writes". If he is not mentioned the text is going to have to be paraphrased or deleted, Or you could just revert it to the way it was before I tried to edit it. Or alter it to what you think is better. Whatever you do is fine by me.Overagainst (talk) 15:01, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
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