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June 15
CC drums
There is a very common and popular drum making company, CC drums.
I can't find any information on the CC company on Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:6080:802:7995:2119:C0A2:B2D8:9A61 (talk) 03:05, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- If a person, organisation or business does not have an article on Wikipedia, it is because independent people think that it is not notable enough. Wikipedia is not a business directory.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 05:43, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- So common and popular that this aged music fan has never previously heard of it, it describes itself as "a small . . . company" (though it has American and European arms), and even the questioner has got its name wrong – it is apparently C&C (or C & C) Drums, unless "CC Drums" is different and even more obscure.
- That said, elegibility for a Wikipedia article is not dependent on how "common and popular" something is perceived to be: it's dependent on how much people independently of it have published material about it in well-edited Reliable sources. If the questioner thinks that there should be a Wikipedia article about the company, the questioner is the best-placed person to gather the Reliable sources required and start a Draft of an article, as described in Help:Your first article. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.201.73.162 (talk) 11:25, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
First time editor, noticed an article was deleted and replaced with a redirect for baffling reasons. Is there anything I can do to help?
Hello,
Circa 2016, I was into rockets, and there was a decent page on the topic of "Asparagus Staging". It was rather short, as it was not currently implemented in any form of rocket, however it was informative.
A few years later, remembering that said article existed, I looked it up again, and was confused to be greeted with a redirect to here. This page did not refer to asparagus staging by name, does not go into detail about how the process works, and gives the impression that it was invented specifically for the Falcon Heavy.
There are 3 solutions I see to this problem, the last one being, in my opinion, the most reasonable:
- Create a new article on the subject (unlikely, as it is about an unimplemented and impractical technology, therefore the article would likely be a stub)
- Delete the redirect (also unlikely, as people who want to know about asparagus staging would likely want at least SOMETHING to show up)
- Redirect to a subsection in the article for rocket staging instead (probably the best option of the bunch, would give more useful information in a more logical setting)
Sincerely, TheSoS9k (talk) 06:08, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- It's odd that Asparagus Staging redirects to Modular rocket#Falcon Heavy, when that section is much shorter than the article Falcon Heavy. But neither mentions "asparagus". I think your third option is the most promising; or you might instead consider adding your proposed subsection to Falcon Heavy. I can't tell which would be better, as I know nothing about the topic. Maproom (talk) 07:17, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- Hi, thanks for the response!
- Asparagus staging, to my mere no-citations knowledge, was invented long before SpaceX was even founded. The Kerbal Space Program wiki article on the subject (which I will not cite in a prospective subsection, but provided some pointers on where to find more information) points to to two possible sources where I could find more information: a book entitled Orbital Mechanics: Theory and Applications, written by a "Tom Logsdon", and further research on Mikhail Tikhonravov, who supposedly invented the staging type. Therefore, I would rather not put it in a SpaceX related article at all
- One large reason this article was deleted was almost certainly the lack of real-world applications. For technical reasons, asparagus staging, while sound from a physics standpoint, is terrible from an engineering standpoint, and this is significantly more useful in abstract computations than in real life, which is why it is mostly discussed by Kerbal Space Program players. It's also likely that technical sources would use phrases other than "Asparagus Staging" to refer to this staging type, further muddling any queries into reliable sources.
- Hope this provides more information on my plight! TheSoS9k (talk) 08:05, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- Update: I found some information about asparagus staging and Mikhail Tikhonravov in the history and development section of Multistage rockets. Because of that, I think it's safe to say that the phrase "asparagus staging" should redirect there. TheSoS9k (talk) 08:21, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
Archives not moved after page move
The two archives at Talk:Macedonian Orthodox Church – Ohrid Archbishopric/Archive 1 and Talk:Macedonian Orthodox Church – Ohrid Archbishopric/Archive 2 were not moved to the new name when I moved the article to Macedonian Orthodox Church – Archdiocese of Ohrid. Does anyone know what to do to get the bot the move them automatically? Veverve (talk) 07:37, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
List of AfC reviewers
I was wondering if Wikipedia has a page containing a list of AfC reviewers based on which languages they know. When reviewing drafts, I've come across articles that contain primarily non-English references and in an attempt to speed up the reviewing process I might ping an admin from a related WikiProject or check one of the subcategories of Category:Wikipedians by language. I'm able to find the admins by using User:Theopolisme/Scripts/adminhighlighter.js, but I don't know of an easy way to specifically locate AfC reviewers in a list of other users. For instance, I can look through each individual user listed at Category:Wikipedians by language and check their user page to see if they are a AfC reviewer. Or I can check each individual user listed at WP:AFC/P to see if they speak the relevant language. Either way it's a lot of work to find someone that might be helpful unless they are also an admin. TipsyElephant (talk) 13:10, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- @TipsyElephant: See Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/List_of_reviewers_by_subject The list has column for which language the reviewer knows. RudolfRed (talk) 20:45, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
Vandalism help request from C-entwikieditor
I have noticed some vandalism at [[1]]. Namely, There is a celebrity whose Japanese and Korean translations are being maliciously edited to show the wrong birth year: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gong_Jun https://ko.wikipedia.org/wiki/%EA%B3%B5%EC%A4%80_(%EB%B0%B0%EC%9A%B0) https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E9%BE%94%E4%BF%8A Even though the Chinese version of the article is added to the BLP policy and contains the correct birth year (1992). The source for this information is added to the Korean and Japanese pages, sadly the year still gets edited by the same malicious editor. This has caused errors in printed publications in the Japanese language. Edited to clarify: Most recently the Japanese and the Korean versions of the article have been affected. In the recent months, also the Thai and the English versions were edited maliciously. Would an editor please assist me with fixing it? Thank you, C-entwikieditor (talk) 13:21, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- Are you having this issue on the English Wikipedia? PRAXIDICAE🌈 13:25, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- The Korean and the Japanese versions of the article are being affected. C-entwikieditor (talk) 13:31, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- You'll need to discuss it there. PRAXIDICAE🌈 13:40, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- If you don't speak Korean and Japanese, you could try posting at the Korean and Japanese versions of Wikipedia:Embassy. TSventon (talk) 14:45, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- You'll need to discuss it there. PRAXIDICAE🌈 13:40, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- The Korean and the Japanese versions of the article are being affected. C-entwikieditor (talk) 13:31, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
a new subject page
can you point me to page on how to create new subject matter? — Preceding unsigned comment added by WayneWhaley1136 (talk • contribs) 15:36, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- @WayneWhaley1136 See WP:YFA. First and most important, make sure you have the sources to meet the demands of WP:GNG. If you don't, chose another subject matter. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:02, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- Hello, WayneWhaley1136. Welcome to Wikipedia. If you are keen to contribute to Wikipedia, I would like to advise you that if you plunge straight into the very difficult task of creating a new article, you are likely to have a frustrating and miserable time. I always advise new editors to spend at least a few months improving existing articles and learning how Wikipedia works before they try it. On average, I would say that a new editor who follows that advice will be adding thousands of times as much value to Wikipedia as somebody who tries to create an article before they are ready. Note also that if you have joined Wikipedia specifically to get an article on a particular subject into Wikipedia, the chances are that you are engaged in promotion, which is forbidden anywhere on Wikipedia. ColinFine (talk) 16:45, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- Hello WayneWhaley1136 - I wrote a simple decision tree to help new editors find info about getting started with editing. It may help you find other ways to contribute. Please see Wikipedia:TRIAGE. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 23:15, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
How do you change main photo on person's page?
Hello,
I want to change the main photo on a person's wiki profile (picture on right side of page with info about the person's life/career). I don't see an edit button like the one above each section. Can someone please assist?
Thanks, — Preceding unsigned comment added by HC Precinct1 (talk • contribs) 18:58, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- @HC Precinct1: you change the image in the infobox on an article by editing the source. Since it's in the lead paragraph, you hit the "edit" button for the article as a whole and not for a section. To change the picture, first upload the new picture to Commons. There is one absolutely critical step: make sure that you have the right to upload that picture. You must own the copyright to the picture (e.g., because your are the photographer) or the copyright owner must have explicitly licensed it under an appropriate free copyright license. If it is not properly licensed, we will delete it. Once you are certain of this critical step, go to the upload wizard and upload your picture to commons, then edit the article. -Arch dude (talk) 19:23, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- Just to going to add that the OP has been soft-blocked for a username violation; they can still read any responses given here, but they won't be able to posting any additional comments here as long as their account is blocked. So, anyone want to discuss things with the OP probably should do so on their user talk page, but anyone who does should also remember that the OP should now primarily be using their user talk page to get unblocked and not for other things. -- Marchjuly (talk) 20:10, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- HC Precinct1 Wikipedia does not have "profiles", not a single one. Wikipedia has articles. 331dot (talk) 23:04, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- Username blocked - seems to represent Harris County precinct 1 - a political entity and WP:SPA. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 23:12, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
Authority control
I am in the process of writing an article draft, and I have added in the authority control template. However, when I am on the visual editing mode, the authority control icon and text are visible at the bottom, even though on other articles that use the same template, it is not. How do I make it so that this icon is not visible? Catsandgurdies (talk) 21:37, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Catsandgurdies Are you talking about the image of a puzzle piece and the name of the template? That's just an indicator that "there's a template here, but it produced no output" so that you can actually see it and edit it. You don't need to do anything, it won't show up outside editing mode. 192.76.8.94 (talk) 00:19, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
Requested articles
In my opinion, if someone wishes to request an article if they don't have an account, they should be able to do so. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.5.122.8 (talk) 21:44, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- Hi - nothing is preventing you from requesting an article as an IP, in fact I see you've already done so. I do wonder why you're trying to create articles by resurrecting the talk pages of articles that have been deleted and placing article content into them. That is not allowed. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 22:04, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- There is nothing stopping you from requesting articles, but you need to follow the huge, bold instructions at the top of the page:
All requests must contain RELIABLE, INDEPENDENT, THIRD PARTY SOURCES
. You need to provide evidence that these companies and people are WP:Notable, by providing examples of coverage in books, newspapers, magazines etc. 192.76.8.94 (talk) 00:23, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
Is Marriages and children always appropriate?
Are there any sort of people with articles for whom this type of information (presuming it is verifiable) is not appropriate? At the level of "Trevonti was married twice, had one son with his first wife before she died, and three daughters with his second wife. He also acknowledged a daughter sired during his marriage to his second wife". For example if the Trevonti in question is a leader in the 3rd crusade, a President of an Italian University, or one of the first three people representing North Dakota in congress, same rules?Naraht (talk) 23:42, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- Hello, Naraht. No, the rules are not the same. We have more stringent standards for biographies of living people. Presumably, the crusade leader and the members of Congress are dead. What matters most is the quality of the sources used to verify the content. Loaded terms like "sired" should be avoided, as should gossip sources. Normally, the names of minor children will not be included unless they are discussed extensively by high quality sources, so a routine birth announcement is not sufficient. Cullen328 (talk) 23:50, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- Cullen328 OK, so the split is living vs. dead. I appreciate that sources will vary, assume as good as possible... I deliberately didn't include the names in the example. I'm curious as to why sired is viewed as a loaded term. Naraht (talk) 23:56, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- Naraht, in current serious usage, "sired" is used to refer to the offspring of animals like stallions and bulls. When applied to human beings, the term is usually archaic or ironic or humorous. It is not the type of neutral terminology that should be applied to human beings in Wikipedia's voice. Cullen328 (talk) 03:56, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
- Cullen328 OK, so the split is living vs. dead. I appreciate that sources will vary, assume as good as possible... I deliberately didn't include the names in the example. I'm curious as to why sired is viewed as a loaded term. Naraht (talk) 23:56, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
June 16
what redirects here?
It used to be that What links here would also show redirects. Now it doesn't. Or at least I don't know how. We could have a What redirects here, though. Gah4 (talk) 01:45, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Gah4 It does show redirects and transclusions. The options to show/hide redirects, links and transclusions are in the collapsible box at the top of the page. 192.76.8.94 (talk) 01:47, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
- OK, I was used to the not collapsed form, and couldn't figure out where it went. But the reason I asked, is that I knew it was supposed to be there. Some people might not, and also might not know to look in the collapsed box. I wonder how many other things I don't know where are. Thanks, though. Gah4 (talk) 05:09, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Gah4: "What links here" is a poor title for hidden options on a what links here page. It's discussed in phab:T310014: "Improve the title of the whatlinkshere filter control box". PrimeHunter (talk) 20:47, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
- OK, I was used to the not collapsed form, and couldn't figure out where it went. But the reason I asked, is that I knew it was supposed to be there. Some people might not, and also might not know to look in the collapsed box. I wonder how many other things I don't know where are. Thanks, though. Gah4 (talk) 05:09, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
How to change an article/topic identifier
Folks:
I'm new to the program. I've been updating the 'drawback' page to ensure it provide the most accurate and up to date information. However, the title itself, 'Drawback,' is lacking. It should be 'Duty Drawback.'
How do I change it?
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Drawback&oldid=1092055448
Tks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lauren1453 (talk • contribs) 01:46, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Lauren1453 To change the title of a page you need to move it. To move pages you need to have made 10 edits and had an account for 4 days. Since you don't meet those requirements yet you can go to Requested moves and ask another editor to move it for you, you can use technical requests if you think the move is uncontroversial, or you can use the controversial moves section to start a discussion if you think other people are likely to disagree. 192.76.8.94 (talk) 01:53, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
- Hello, Lauren1453. In order to change the title, you will need to provide evidence that "Drawback" is somehow inaccurate, misleading and not frequently used by reliable sources discussing this topic, and that "Duty drawback" is by far the more common term used by reliable sources. So, assemble your evidence. Be rigorously objective and do not skew the evidence in favor of your preferred outcome. Cullen328 (talk) 04:07, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
- Google 'drawback' and 'duty drawback' and see which inquiry returns relevant content; that alone will demonstrate how the trade community at large uses the term. 'Drawback' alone is not accurate, plain and simple. Lauren1453 (talk) 14:22, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
- As a Brit, I had never heard of the term "drawback" used in any other sense than "a disadvantage", as per wiktionary or "draw back" meaning "withdraw", so I think that moving to Duty drawback, with the existing disambiguation for drawback would be sensible. Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:03, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
- Google 'drawback' and 'duty drawback' and see which inquiry returns relevant content; that alone will demonstrate how the trade community at large uses the term. 'Drawback' alone is not accurate, plain and simple. Lauren1453 (talk) 14:22, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
- Hello, Lauren1453. In order to change the title, you will need to provide evidence that "Drawback" is somehow inaccurate, misleading and not frequently used by reliable sources discussing this topic, and that "Duty drawback" is by far the more common term used by reliable sources. So, assemble your evidence. Be rigorously objective and do not skew the evidence in favor of your preferred outcome. Cullen328 (talk) 04:07, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
Template:Commons Category
On Teasmade, this template appears correctly placed, at the head of the References section. Viewed on my mobile device (iPhone SE type 2), references text is constrained into a column 2-3 characters wide and therefore totally unreadable. How do I fix this? Thanks Nick Levine (talk) 07:16, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
- Which browser are you using? It looks fine in Safari on my iPhone 8 in both desktop and mobile view. - X201 (talk) 08:15, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
- Desktop view in Safari. Would you like a screenshot? Nick Levine (talk) 09:07, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
- I can confirm this on narrow screens, both in Monobook and in the standard Vector skin. —Kusma (talk) 10:21, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Nick Levine: Fixed. See Template:Commons_category#Location for instructions. —Kusma (talk) 10:24, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks. I’d read the template page but that setting wasn’t clear. Nick Levine (talk) 22:40, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Nick Levine: Fixed. See Template:Commons_category#Location for instructions. —Kusma (talk) 10:24, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
Restarting account.
Help me in the restarting account process, I am stuck. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 105.160.12.163 (talk) 13:09, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
Actual question section
hi everyone. I have a simple formatting question, about our old friend, template:navbox. how would I put a simple horizontal bar across the navbox, with some text inside it, to delineate a separate section?
please note, this bar does not need to be the top of a collapsible section; it is simply for visual purposes only, in separating one part of the navbox from the other parts.
appreciate any help. if you want, you can simply link me to an existing navbox which would have this feature. thanks! --Sm8900 (talk) 13:25, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Sm8900 You can use a "list" without a group to do this, e.g.
{{navbox | name = Navbox | state = uncollapsed | title = title | above = above | group1 = group1 | list1 = list1 | list2 = list2 - No Group so becomes a bar | group3 = group3 | list3 = list3 | below = below }}
produces
192.76.8.94 (talk) 13:57, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
- hm, ok, that looks excellent, IP editor. one question; is there any way to add just a bit of shading to that bar? thanks!! Sm8900 (talk) 14:03, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
@Sm8900: yes, you can use the list"n"style parameters to set the colouring of particular groups, e.g.
{{navbox | name = Navbox | state = uncollapsed | title = title | above = above | group1 = group1 | list1 = list1 | list2style = background: silver; | list2 = list2 - No Group so becomes a bar | group3 = group3 | list3 = list3 | below = below }}
will make the bar silver
192.76.8.94 (talk) 14:10, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
- holy smokes, that's brilliant, IP editor. thanks so much! by the way, can I please suggest that you add your great advice above to the documentation for template:navbox? I think your info is highly useful. but anyway, this is truly helpful. great info! thanks! --Sm8900 (talk) 14:13, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
sample coding
copying your helpful sample code, below for experimentation. --Sm8900 (talk) 14:08, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
- ok, I tried the code below for shading, but as you can see it changed shading for all of the groups./ hm. I would be open to any tips you may have. thanks! --Sm8900 (talk) 14:09, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
| liststyle = background: silver;
sandbox section
{{navbox | name = Navbox | state = uncollapsed | title = title | above = above | group1 = group1 | list1 = list1 | list2 = list2 - No Group so becomes a bar | list2style = background: silver; | group3 = group3 | list3 = list3 | below = below }}
produces
--Sm8900 (talk) 14:05, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Sm8900: You can set
list2style
to change the background for list2 only. -- John of Reading (talk) 14:10, 16 June 2022 (UTC)- As the IP demonstrated, just five seconds before I saved that comment... -- John of Reading (talk) 14:14, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
- @John of Reading, lol, yes, I guess that great minds think alike. it's truly helpful to have your input here as well. thanks! by the way, I left our IP Editor friend some thanks of sorts, on their talk page. I appreciate your help. are you highly familiar with editing and coding for navboxes? maybe I can use your help, actually. are you active at all at the meta:wikimedia site? --Sm8900 (talk) 14:19, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Sm8900: Not "highly familiar"; I found "list2style" by reading the documentation. I'm not active at meta. -- John of Reading (talk) 14:25, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
- @John of Reading, lol, yes, I guess that great minds think alike. it's truly helpful to have your input here as well. thanks! by the way, I left our IP Editor friend some thanks of sorts, on their talk page. I appreciate your help. are you highly familiar with editing and coding for navboxes? maybe I can use your help, actually. are you active at all at the meta:wikimedia site? --Sm8900 (talk) 14:19, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
- As the IP demonstrated, just five seconds before I saved that comment... -- John of Reading (talk) 14:14, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
New question re color codes
hi all. ok. sorry, but here are some new questions. FYI, I am trying to review the page Help:Using colours, in order to learn some of this, but I could still use some assistance. thanks very much.
edit: ok, I found some useful data here: Help:Using_colours#Guide_to_colors. feel free to answer below, though. thanks!
- (A) where would I find a list of names that i can use to indicate the color, for the formatting shown above for a horizontal bar?
- (B) how would I use a numerical color code for the formatting above, eg such as the color code 708ECF?
I appreciate any help. thanks. --Sm8900 (talk) 15:44, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
- You should find all that you need at {{color}}, Sm8900. Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:51, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
- Hi @Michael D. Turnbull. well I appreciate your reply, but what I need is a full, specific detailed list of the actual names to be used for colors. i don't happen to see that data at the link above that you provided, so please feel free to clarify further. however, I did find the page Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Accessibility/Colors, and there does seem to be a list of that sort, so I am giving that a try to see if I can use that data.
- if you have any other links or info, I could use that as well. thanks! --Sm8900 (talk) 16:02, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
- Sm8900 The article at web colors has everything under the sun (or at least, those capable of being rendered in browsers!). Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:06, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Sm8900 Web colors#HTML color names lists all the named colours. To use a hex colour code you need to preface it with a hash like so:
| list2style = background: #C71585;
. 192.76.8.94 (talk) 16:14, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
Login.
Help in loging in to my account. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 105.160.12.163 (talk) 13:38, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
- What is the nature of the difficulty you are having? 331dot (talk) 13:42, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
- Does Help:logging in contain anything that helps? 192.76.8.94 (talk) 13:59, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
A move request?
Hello all! I just edited on American Journal of Physical Anthropology, the scientific journal has been renamed some weeks or months ago. I do not understand Wikipedia:Requested moves and the things related to it (i am de-N, en-2). Can You help me? Thanks in advance. --Himbeerbläuling (talk) 17:23, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
- Your can be bold and rename the article yourself. Ruslik_Zero 20:46, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
- Himbeerbläuling I have renamed the article and changed a few things (everything that said Physical Anthropology now says Biological Anthropology, but I think you should go through it again. I noticed a *lot* of the links to Wiley were http: links, they should be replaced with the new locations which are https: (and it isn't just adding an s, the https locations are in different places). Let me know if you have any questions.Naraht (talk) 14:18, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
Language Codes
Where is there a list of what languages the usually-2-character language codes represent? I know that, for instance, .en is English, .de is German, .fr is French. If I see a link to .he or .bn, how do I look up what languages those are? Robert McClenon (talk) 21:18, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
- List of ISO 639-1 codes. Since that (and ISO 639-1) is hard to remember, it's linked from language code. In Wikimedia-specific context, m:Template:List of language names ordered by code. —Cryptic 21:26, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
- For lists of all language tags (ISO 639-1, -2, -3, IETF forms, and 'special') supported by cs1|2 templates see: Template:Citation Style documentation/language/doc. These are all the tags supported by MediaWiki; they are a small subset of all possible language tags.
- —Trappist the monk (talk) 22:06, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
June 17
Tables
Hello. How do I center the text in a content cell in a table? Cherrell410 (talk) 02:11, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
- Like this:
cell1 cell2 cell3
- Bazza (talk) 08:09, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, but how Cherrell410 (talk) 13:21, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
- You need to look at the source code (what you see when you use "Edit source"). In this case, the code is style="text-align:center;" embedded into the correct table code. See H:TABLE for more instructions. Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:36, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
- As Mike Turnbull says, press "edit source" next to "Tables" in the heading above, and you'll see the source code for this entire conversation, including the Wikitable I gave as an example and which you can copy into the source of the page you're editing.
- If your using the Visual Editor to write your page, then it has tools for inserting a table, and aligning text in cells.
- Finally, be aware of any accessibility issues there might be in centring text: some people find it less easy to read. Bazza (talk) 15:01, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, but how Cherrell410 (talk) 13:21, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
Wikipedia.org
Hello. When you open the wikipedia.org webpage, it says that the english wikipedia has 6 458 000+ articles. The english wikipedia main page says that it has 6 520 000+ articles. Is that number on wikipedia.org ever purged or updated? Cherrell410 (talk) 02:12, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
- AFAIK the en.wp Main Page link is accurate; the wikipedia.org webpage is likely cached or only updated periodically. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v a little blue Bori 03:15, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
- Ok Cherrell410 (talk) 13:22, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
- In case you want to use it elsewhere, Cherrell410, there is a "magic word" that gives the correct number, automatically updated, currently 6,520,940. See my source code here for the bit you would need. Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:32, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
- Updates are usually reported at phab:T128546. The latest was 13 June. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:30, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Michael D. Turnbull i was just wondering, but thanks. Cherrell410 (talk) 22:48, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
- In case you want to use it elsewhere, Cherrell410, there is a "magic word" that gives the correct number, automatically updated, currently 6,520,940. See my source code here for the bit you would need. Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:32, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
- Ok Cherrell410 (talk) 13:22, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
Inyo County Sheriffs. Left out was Allen B George. Sheriff from Nov. 7 1990 - 1996
Courtesy link: Inyo_County,_California#County_Sheriffs
I would like to place Allen B. George in context. He was left out of Sheriffs of Inyo County. Nov.7 1990-1996 Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:1970:511D:DB00:0:0:0:B040 (talk) 02:23, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
- I was looking at the article and it said that the sheriff was Don Dorsey. Do you have a reference that I could read? Cherrell410 (talk) 02:54, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
Page that doesn't exist exists
This page has a notice at the top saying it has been deleted, but there is still text in the page. When 'View source' is pressed, the source can still be seen. However, there is no history. How can this page be deleted and exist at the same time? weeklyd3 (message me | my contributions) 02:54, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Weeklyd3: This is a configurable software message. If the page exists, it overrides the internal software message. If the page does not exist, it shows the default given by the MediaWiki software. —Kusma (talk) 11:16, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Kusma I'm not clear how what you wrote addresses OP's question. I think he might have wanted to ask: Why does that page, "MediaWiki:Enotif body", have a View source tab at the top, but does not have a View history tab? The page MediaWiki:Enotif_reset, for instance, has both of those tabs. If "Enotif body" doesn't exist, why does it have View source? If it does exist, why doesn't it have a View history tab? - R. S. Shaw (talk) 05:07, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
- @R. S. Shaw: See meta:Help:MediaWiki namespace. The Mediawiki namespace allows, amongst other things, users with the required write privilieges to customize the software interface by editing the corresponding MediaWiki-namespace page. Just to give an example, the legend on the "view history" tab is controled by MediaWiki:Histlegend in the local Wiki. If that page doesn't exit, the software will use the default (if it has one), mainly to aid in creation of new Wikis which /probbably/ don't have pages in the Mediawiki namespace yet. When a default is available (that is, it is a MediaWiki:-page who's location is defined by the MediaWiki software), that default is also displayed when viewing or (attempting to) edit a locally nonexistent MediaWiki:message name page. Such default views don't have a "view history" link since there is no local history. If, on the other hand, you're viewing a MedaWiki:-pge where no default is available (like MediaWiki:crazynonexistentpage), they behave like all other nonexistent pages, with the exception that they're automatically protected create=sysop by the software. Users with the required edit permission can override the default message contents by creating the local page, thereby starting a local history and therefore making the "view history"-tab appear. to get back to the example, MediaWiki:Enotif body is the MediaWiki default text for the Message "Enotif body", and therefore has no local history. MediaWiki:Enotif reset, on the other hand, is customized on enwiki since April 2015, and therefore displays the local text along with the "view history"-tab. Victor Schmidt (talk) 05:55, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
- Short version which omits the purpose: There was a wiki page which has been deleted. MediaWiki instead displays a text which is part of MediaWiki itself. PrimeHunter (talk) 06:44, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
- @R. S. Shaw: See meta:Help:MediaWiki namespace. The Mediawiki namespace allows, amongst other things, users with the required write privilieges to customize the software interface by editing the corresponding MediaWiki-namespace page. Just to give an example, the legend on the "view history" tab is controled by MediaWiki:Histlegend in the local Wiki. If that page doesn't exit, the software will use the default (if it has one), mainly to aid in creation of new Wikis which /probbably/ don't have pages in the Mediawiki namespace yet. When a default is available (that is, it is a MediaWiki:-page who's location is defined by the MediaWiki software), that default is also displayed when viewing or (attempting to) edit a locally nonexistent MediaWiki:message name page. Such default views don't have a "view history" link since there is no local history. If, on the other hand, you're viewing a MedaWiki:-pge where no default is available (like MediaWiki:crazynonexistentpage), they behave like all other nonexistent pages, with the exception that they're automatically protected create=sysop by the software. Users with the required edit permission can override the default message contents by creating the local page, thereby starting a local history and therefore making the "view history"-tab appear. to get back to the example, MediaWiki:Enotif body is the MediaWiki default text for the Message "Enotif body", and therefore has no local history. MediaWiki:Enotif reset, on the other hand, is customized on enwiki since April 2015, and therefore displays the local text along with the "view history"-tab. Victor Schmidt (talk) 05:55, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Kusma I'm not clear how what you wrote addresses OP's question. I think he might have wanted to ask: Why does that page, "MediaWiki:Enotif body", have a View source tab at the top, but does not have a View history tab? The page MediaWiki:Enotif_reset, for instance, has both of those tabs. If "Enotif body" doesn't exist, why does it have View source? If it does exist, why doesn't it have a View history tab? - R. S. Shaw (talk) 05:07, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Weeklyd3: This is actually a deep metaphysical question. See This Is Not a Pipe for a similar issue. The text on MediaWiki:Enotif body is not intended to describe MediaWiki:Enotif body. The page is one of many items that are part of the configuration parameters of the MediaWiki software that customize it to create the MediaWiki instance that is the English Wikipedia. Many of these items are syntactically in the form of MediaWiki pages and are therefore syntactically identical to Wikipedia pages, which is convenient because it allows the administrators of this instance of the Mediawiki software to easily edit these parameter pages using the same tools that editors use to edit content pages. In this case, the MediaWiki software is written display the contents of a page named MediaWiki:Enotif body if the user attempts to access a page that does not exist. If you were running your own wiki using MediaWiki software on you own computer, you could change the "MediaWiki:Enotif body" on your Wiki to say whatever you like. -Arch dude (talk) 16:29, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
June 18
Translated quotes
Quick question about translated quotes. Let's say I have a quote from a publication in another language that I want to use in the prose. How do I indicate that it has been translated, and do I include the original text? Thanks (I'm not watching this page – please use {{reply to|PerfectSoundWhatever}}
on reply) — PerfectSoundWhatever (t; c) 01:51, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
- @PerfectSoundWhatever, see MOS:FOREIGNQUOTE in the Wikipedia:Manual of Style. StarryGrandma (talk) 02:05, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
Links
the links in the article. List of most-streamed songs on Spotify they are not complete and they are also very poorly added, Can someone find out if some anonymous user deleted the missing links on purpose or is it some kind of vandalism?--Tirso Gutiérrez (talk) 15:50, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
Deleting Sandbox userpage
1 - Since I made Significant New Alternatives Policy, I want to delete my userpage Sandbox I was using before making that page: User:Fephisto/Significant_New_Alternatives_Policy . How do I do this?
2 - I'd like to do that css thing where the top and left headers of a table are static as you scroll down the document in Significant New Alternatives Policy#Refrigerants. What would be the best way to go about that?
Fephisto (talk) 17:05, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Fephisto::
first collumn | second collumn | third collumn |
---|---|---|
cell A1 | cell B1 | cell C1 |
cell A2 | cell B2 | cell C2 |
cell A3 | cell B3 | cell C3 |
- Note that any solution is likely going to be skin-dependent, as some skins (notably Vector 2022 and Timeless) have their own sticky elements. Victor Schmidt (talk) 17:33, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks! Fephisto (talk) 17:42, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
VIAF name
I looked for Michi Kobi's Japanese name in this VIAF link: [2] From that link, I think it is 岡本まち子 and added it to the English article and Wikidata. But later I thought: is it the same person? The person died in 2016 and their death date is not shown beside her Japanese name. So it might be a different Michi Kobi who just so happens to have the same birth year, but is still alive. FunnyMath (talk) 21:28, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
- I looked into Web NDL Authorities and it says the information was last updated in the year 2000: [3]. So that might explain why the death date wasn't included. But still, I want another fellow Wikipedian to confirm that 岡本まち子 is Michi Kobi's Japanese name. FunnyMath (talk) 22:52, 18 June 2022 (UTC)