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I'm about to ask for some mentoring in basic areas (with pings to friends I'm asking to help me)
Thanks for your jumping right in on my GA review. I'm going to take a liberty here on your talk page. I'm going to ask for help. You and I largely agree on thingswiki and I appreciate your meticulous and generous nature. I want to learn from some people I don't know as well but respect. I guess I'm saying this to let you know I'm feeling an energy high here for the first time in years. I'm reading more than I write. I'm so slothful occasionally. I have this bad habit of anticipating the worst. RL often steals from my gumption stash; RL working more than usual. I had such a good time hanging with my gaming friends last weekend and my energy is up. I told a friend yesterday I was ready for some pagespace successes. I'm going to put William Longshaw Jr. up for GA in two weeks after I've written the epitaph and I'd like User:Vami IV to handle it if and when they are willing. It's unusual and perhaps incorrect to request a reviewer, but I think it's clear I have no ill intent; I just want to know that bold user better and learn their style. I'm going to ask User:Atsme to mentor me in the basic NPP skills as they have time. I should be able to rip through ten page patrols in ten minutes, but I have this issue with my cognitive process. I seem to get a "stuckness" in reviewing; it's like I care about the subject too much to take any single action, instead of breaking the tasks down and checking them off. I'd like people I trust (like an auditor) to help me break this bad habit. BusterD (talk) 21:52, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
- I am sought, thus I am found. It would be my pleasure to review your GAN when the time comes. –♠Vami_IV†♠ 21:57, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Battle of Van Buren
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Battle of Van Buren you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Ealdgyth -- Ealdgyth (talk) 23:41, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
FAC
Hi, I'd like to preface this question by stating that I'm not asking for anything in particular to be done to my nomination. That being said, I'm completely new to FAC and Richardson is my first nomination. Is there anything in particular missing from the current reviews? Thanks, Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 16:54, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
- Depends on if Ykraps intended their review to be both a general review and a full source review. Hog Farm Talk 16:57, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
- I carried out a fairly extensive source review, which meant reading through the article multiple times. If I'd noticed anything that needed attention, I would have commented so I'm happy to say I support with consideration to all the criteria. @Pickersgill-Cunliffe:, If your worrying that time's running out, don't be. All my nominations have taken over a month to pass and HMS Emerald was open for 3 months! --Ykraps (talk) 06:33, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
Well, that was fun...
Talk:Osbern fitzRichard/GA1. Not. Ealdgyth (talk) 01:15, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
- That is not a good GA review whatsoever. Yikes. To avoid ambiguity, it can be mentioned that the charter states that he had another son. when that doesn't seem to be what the charter says at all. Or Avoid using "unknown". Simply state that it occurred at some point between 1088 and 1100. when the article says that it may have occurred after 1100, and if it's unknown, it should be stated to be unknown. Or the referencing format demands that are completely outside of GAN scope. You never know what you're going to get with GA reviews, and when they're bad, they're often really bad. I had an article promoted to GA based on this review once, which literally contains nothing useful whatsoever. Hog Farm Talk 01:30, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) That's cheered my day up!
Gog the Mild (talk) 15:42, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) That's cheered my day up!
Kirk–Holden war
Hi HF. Do you fancy signing off, or not, on the RSness of the sources for this one. I have just kicked the formatting into shape, but I wouldn't know a decent source from a hole in the ground on this topic. Whereas you ... Note in particular Ashe's 50 year old PhD thesis. Gog the Mild (talk) 15:40, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Gog the Mild: - I haven't done the check for anything that should be included that isn't, but I'm generally okay with the RS-ness of the sources used here. The one cite to Ashe 1925 looks okay. Of the two cites to Bogue's 50-year old, one it supported by a modern source and the other should be okay. The one that flags up the most concern for me is Zuber 1969, as a publication from a southern state's government about Reconstruction during the Civil Rights Era isn't a generally great class of sources. The single cite to Zuber 1969 here doesn't look problematic though, so I'd be comfortable signing off on RS here for ACR. Indy beetle, would it be best to replace Zuber 1969 before a FAC, or is there a reason why it would be better than what it might seem from a first glance? Hog Farm Talk 16:01, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
- The Zuber book as a whole leans more towards older views of Reconstruction, but the only specifics it discusses are in regards to the documents and letters kept in the state government archives. That picture of Pearson’s writ of habeas corpus comes from the book, for example. I presume Zuber wrote of the attorney’s letter to Pearson because that is a document that is kept in the state archives. This book is almost meant more as a reading guide, or subtle advertisement, saying “Hey we keep this cool stuff in the State Archives.” It is not a comprehensive account of North Carolina during Reconstruction, even though that’s what the title suggests. -Indy beetle (talk) 16:27, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
- Zuber should be fine, then. I'm just a bit suspicious of older sources for Reconstruction after skimming an old first or second edition copy of Claude G. Bowers's The Tragic Era I found in an attic a few years ago. Bowers's work at least on this subject is very bad. Hog Farm Talk 16:53, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
- Students of the Dunning School are what you need to look out for. J. G. de Roulhac Hamilton was the North Carolinian pupil of that view and wrote the first comprehensive account of the Kirk-Holden war in his 1914 book Reconstruction in North Carolina. I did what I could to keep my distance; McGuire rebuts some of the points he made. -Indy beetle (talk) 00:08, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
- So am I ok to pass the source review? Gog the Mild (talk) 15:24, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Gog the Mild: - On reliability, yes. I'm willing to AGF on comprehensiveness of sourcing if you are. Hog Farm Talk 15:27, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
- So am I ok to pass the source review? Gog the Mild (talk) 15:24, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
- Students of the Dunning School are what you need to look out for. J. G. de Roulhac Hamilton was the North Carolinian pupil of that view and wrote the first comprehensive account of the Kirk-Holden war in his 1914 book Reconstruction in North Carolina. I did what I could to keep my distance; McGuire rebuts some of the points he made. -Indy beetle (talk) 00:08, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
- Zuber should be fine, then. I'm just a bit suspicious of older sources for Reconstruction after skimming an old first or second edition copy of Claude G. Bowers's The Tragic Era I found in an attic a few years ago. Bowers's work at least on this subject is very bad. Hog Farm Talk 16:53, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
- The Zuber book as a whole leans more towards older views of Reconstruction, but the only specifics it discusses are in regards to the documents and letters kept in the state government archives. That picture of Pearson’s writ of habeas corpus comes from the book, for example. I presume Zuber wrote of the attorney’s letter to Pearson because that is a document that is kept in the state archives. This book is almost meant more as a reading guide, or subtle advertisement, saying “Hey we keep this cool stuff in the State Archives.” It is not a comprehensive account of North Carolina during Reconstruction, even though that’s what the title suggests. -Indy beetle (talk) 16:27, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
- Does ACR have a comprehensiveness of sourcing criterion? I have passed it anyway. Gog the Mild (talk) 15:39, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
- The A-class portion of WP:MILHIST/ASSESS says accurately represent the relevant body of published knowledge which I've always interpreted as a requirement to not have blatant omissions of major sources. Not as strict as FAC, but a step up from GAN is how I've always seen that. For instance, I'd say that Battle of Fort Davidson is good for GA, but shouldn't pass ACR without using Suderow & House's Thunder in Arcadia Valley, although that's a bit of an extreme example. Hog Farm Talk 15:43, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
- Ho hum. I have taken it as what it says. So if an article reflects what a/the major source says, but doesn't use that particular source, it's fine. I guess it's a distinction that doesn't happen much in practice. Gog the Mild (talk) 15:46, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
- The A-class portion of WP:MILHIST/ASSESS says accurately represent the relevant body of published knowledge which I've always interpreted as a requirement to not have blatant omissions of major sources. Not as strict as FAC, but a step up from GAN is how I've always seen that. For instance, I'd say that Battle of Fort Davidson is good for GA, but shouldn't pass ACR without using Suderow & House's Thunder in Arcadia Valley, although that's a bit of an extreme example. Hog Farm Talk 15:43, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
- Does ACR have a comprehensiveness of sourcing criterion? I have passed it anyway. Gog the Mild (talk) 15:39, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
A favour?
Any chance of a favour? If time or motivation don't allow, that's fine. But I currently have no wannabe FACs queued up, which seems an unnatural state of affairs. I have had at least one nom at FAC pretty much for the last 42 months. I was looking at Battle of Utica which you have just ACR reviewed and source reviewed. I had previously thought that it was a bit slight for FAC, but I may be talking myself round. What do you think? No need to dress up a negative opinion, if you have or form one. Thanks. And secondly, the only other non-promoted A class article of "mine" which may be up to FAC is Siege of Guînes (1352), which you kindly reviewed for A class back in October 2021, here. Again generously also looking at the sourcing. Again, might you have an opinion as to whether it would be laughed off the project if I nominated it at FAC? Cheers. Gog the Mild (talk) 16:17, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Gog the Mild: - If I was able to push Capture of Sedalia through, then either should be fine. Guines might be the better option, as there's a bit more meat there, and so long as you're confident you've reasonably dredged all the high-quality sourcing, it should be fine. (As an aside - is Utica definitely the primary topic for that title?) Could I have a request as well? I've only been able to find two detailed sources for the events of Battle of Van Buren, but have tried to patch it together as well as possible. Do you see anything that would preclude ACR/FAC for Van Buren once it passes GAN, if I'm comfortable if I've covered the breadth of sourcing as well as possible? Hog Farm Talk 16:50, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks HF. Battle of Van Buren is pretty Bearss reliant. To me it just about sneaks under the bar, others may differ. If you have a couple of weeks with nothing better to nominate I would toss it at FAC and see what the result is. It seems a perfectly reasonable article to nom and I would be a little surprised of anyone made a lot of fuss. I would tidy up/rewrite the second paragraph of the lead. Gog the Mild (talk) 17:51, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah, ACW in Arkansas is a bit of a choke point with sourcing, in that there's three authors (Bearss, Shea, and Christ) that are involved in basically everything and Christ didn't write much about this one. It doesn't help that Bearss was extremely prolific in writing about Fort Smith. I'll give it another dredge to see what I can find, but it's a bad sign when the copy of The Union Cavalry in the Civil War: Volume 3 The West I just got off eBay only gives Van Buren part of a paragraph. If Baltic ever clears ACR I'll probably nominate that first, and save Van Buren for when I run out of other FAC-able ones. Hog Farm Talk 18:00, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks HF. Battle of Van Buren is pretty Bearss reliant. To me it just about sneaks under the bar, others may differ. If you have a couple of weeks with nothing better to nominate I would toss it at FAC and see what the result is. It seems a perfectly reasonable article to nom and I would be a little surprised of anyone made a lot of fuss. I would tidy up/rewrite the second paragraph of the lead. Gog the Mild (talk) 17:51, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) FYI a trawl found nothing further of note on Guînes, but did remind me of a source worth rereading for Utica. So I am going to nominate the former, and assuming the latter goes through ACR see if I can fatten it up a bit and then relook at it.
- Utica and primary topic: I know as much about titles as I do categories - very little. They are not in the criteria so I don't much care. Personally I might have gone with Battle of Utica (49 BC), or run all three through a disambig page. But what do I know, and everyone seems to have been happy with the status quo for 15+ years. Gog the Mild (talk) 18:10, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
ARC Request
Hi Hog,
I wondered if maybe after your exam and you have the time and motivation in the near future. Would you be willing to review Oswald Boelcke? If so then I'll try to get some time to review CSS Baltic. Oh btw just curious is that your cat on above because my cat is also trying to play with my keyboard. :) Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 06:47, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
- @CPA-5: - I think cats just like to play with keyboards :) I'll take a look at Boelcke when I can (maybe this weekend?) I saw some tone issues when I skimmed it back in late March, but based on the replies to the most recent comments in that ACR, it looks like it's been largely corrected, so I'll give it another look. Hog Farm Talk 14:06, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
It would seem that Hauptmann Bölckes Feldberichte would be worth a further reading mention. Hauptmann Bölckes Feldberichte at Projeck Gutenberg-DE. Hauptmann Bölckes Feldberichte at the Internet Archive. "backdate" is more usual for documents than "pre-date", too. Uncle G (talk) 09:42, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
- I have this in English.Georgejdorner (talk) 23:00, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Battle of Van Buren
The article Battle of Van Buren you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Battle of Van Buren for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Ealdgyth -- Ealdgyth (talk) 15:01, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of USS Curlew (1862)
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article USS Curlew (1862) you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Pickersgill-Cunliffe -- Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 20:20, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
Oswald Boelcke assessment
Hello, I have edited the above article in response to the useful commentary in your assessment. I realize you have not completed it, and that you may want to deal with my responses upon completion.Georgejdorner (talk) 22:58, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
Hello again, I believe I have addressed your concerns. Please check the assessment to see if I have solved the problems.Georgejdorner (talk) 23:49, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Hog Farm: Ready for review.Georgejdorner (talk) 03:42, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
- Georgejdorner Take a look at the rest of this talk page, it says Hog Farm is on wikibreak. (t · c) buidhe 03:52, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
- Ooops! No prob. The other assessor did most of the work; he'll check things out.Georgejdorner (talk) 03:57, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Georgejdorner: - With the tone cleaned up and the SYNTH sentence gone, my main objections to promotion are gone. I'm still not a fan of the Google maps usage, and would push a bit on that at FAC, but won't hold up ACR over that. I'm not able to take a general look at it right now, but from a skim Kershaw's Hitler bio is showing a ref warning as not used and should be removed and something seems to have gone wrong with the italics at the very end. @WP:MILHIST coordinators: - if it gets ready for promotion before I'm back, don't wait on me; my major concerns appear to have been addressed. Hog Farm Talk 04:14, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
- Kershaw gone, and you should be too, on your holiday.Georgejdorner (talk) 04:21, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Georgejdorner: - With the tone cleaned up and the SYNTH sentence gone, my main objections to promotion are gone. I'm still not a fan of the Google maps usage, and would push a bit on that at FAC, but won't hold up ACR over that. I'm not able to take a general look at it right now, but from a skim Kershaw's Hitler bio is showing a ref warning as not used and should be removed and something seems to have gone wrong with the italics at the very end. @WP:MILHIST coordinators: - if it gets ready for promotion before I'm back, don't wait on me; my major concerns appear to have been addressed. Hog Farm Talk 04:14, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
- Ooops! No prob. The other assessor did most of the work; he'll check things out.Georgejdorner (talk) 03:57, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
- Georgejdorner Take a look at the rest of this talk page, it says Hog Farm is on wikibreak. (t · c) buidhe 03:52, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – May 2022
News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2022).
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- Following an RfC, a change has been made to the administrators inactivity policy. Under the new policy, if an administrator has not made at least 100 edits over a period of 5 years they may be desysopped for inactivity.
- Following a discussion on the bureaucrat's noticeboard, a change has been made to the bureaucrats inactivity policy.
- The ability to undelete the associated talk page when undeleting a page has been added. This was the 11th wish of the 2021 Community Wishlist Survey.
- A public status system for WMF wikis has been created. It is located at https://www.wikimediastatus.net/ and is hosted separately to WMF wikis so in the case of an outage it will remain viewable.
- Remedy 2 of the St Christopher case has been rescinded following a motion. The remedy previously authorised administrators to place a ban on single-purpose accounts who were disruptively editing on the article St Christopher Iba Mar Diop College of Medicine or related pages from those pages.
Your GA nomination of Battle of Van Buren
The article Battle of Van Buren you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Battle of Van Buren for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Ealdgyth -- Ealdgyth (talk) 13:41, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of CSS Pontchartrain
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article CSS Pontchartrain you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Ealdgyth -- Ealdgyth (talk) 14:01, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
Burned out
I'm going to be stepping back for at least a few days, although I will return. I'll try to keep up with what I've been involved in at FAR, as well as any in-process reviews I've started and keep up with the 1 FAC, 2 ACRs, and 3 GANs I have open, and I'll try to get the tags added this morning to the article I created last night cleaned up, but no promises on how quickly things get done. I'm burning out pretty badly, and will be taking a break with my wife, cats, and books. Hog Farm Talk 13:51, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
- In that order I'm sure! Do it HF, take as long as you like. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 14:03, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
- I hope your break is refreshing, HF -- Guerillero Parlez Moi 14:05, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
- May many and restful days be yours to enjoy. –♠Vami_IV†♠ 21:08, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
- I am just catching up and seeing this; extended breaks are always good, always needed, and taking one is a sign of balance ... go for it, and enjoy the books, cat and wife (not in that order :) SandyGeorgia (Talk) 22:17, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
Back for now to a greater extent; I got sucked in with some template-related stuff. Hog Farm Talk 13:11, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
DYK for Goodbye Normal Street
![]() | On 12 May 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Goodbye Normal Street, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Goodbye Normal Street was named after a street in Oklahoma, but also refers to the Turnpike Troubadours' new life touring on the road? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Goodbye Normal Street. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Goodbye Normal Street), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page. |
— Maile (talk) 00:03, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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The Working Man's Barnstar |
For reviewing at least 7 points worth of articles during the January 2022 GAN Backlog Drive, I hereby present you with this barnstar in my capacity as coordinator. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 03:55, 15 May 2022 (UTC) |
DYK for Real Estate Bank of Arkansas
![]() | On 17 May 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Real Estate Bank of Arkansas, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that a special legislative session to deal with the Real Estate Bank of Arkansas was not called because a third of the legislature owed money to the bank? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Real Estate Bank of Arkansas. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Real Estate Bank of Arkansas), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page. |
—Kusma (talk) 00:03, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
The TFAR
My English just isn't up to if the article follows the format of quote". or quote.". Up to when I read that I believed that whether the dot is part of a quote or not depends on whether a dot is being quoted or not. Can you clarify, please? - I don't think you have to understand anything about the topic to tell if the phrase in the lead is a summary of the longer passages or too free, and if a summary of the French Revolution needs a ref. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:47, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Gerda Arendt: - I'm not an expert on the periods with MOS:LQ, but I believe the rule is generally that the period should be outside of the quotations marks unless the quote wouldn't make sense without it. Hog Farm Talk 21:54, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
- Well, that's close to what I believe. The other wording, however, suggested to me that an article should follow one format or the other consistently? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:00, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
- As I've understood it, the general idea is to always put the period outside of the quotation marks unless there's a strong reason to do so, so in most cases it will be consistently outside of the question marks. An example from the article where I think a change would be warranted is in contending that men and women, whose marriages are "the cement of society", should be "educated after the same model."[25] where the period after "model" should be after the quotation mark, since it doesn't seem to be integral to the phrasing. Hog Farm Talk 22:31, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
- I changed a few of those - please check if I understood you right? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:29, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
- As I've understood it, the general idea is to always put the period outside of the quotation marks unless there's a strong reason to do so, so in most cases it will be consistently outside of the question marks. An example from the article where I think a change would be warranted is in contending that men and women, whose marriages are "the cement of society", should be "educated after the same model."[25] where the period after "model" should be after the quotation mark, since it doesn't seem to be integral to the phrasing. Hog Farm Talk 22:31, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
- Well, that's close to what I believe. The other wording, however, suggested to me that an article should follow one format or the other consistently? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:00, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of CSS Pontchartrain
The article CSS Pontchartrain you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:CSS Pontchartrain for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Ealdgyth -- Ealdgyth (talk) 13:01, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
geology of the lassen volcanic area
hello, Hog Farm! i had a quick question regarding this blurb for this article. what do you think about including the full date of the explosion in the caption for the image? i know that full dates are often mentioned in blurbs when they are relevant to the blurb's run date, and this blurb is scheduled to run on the 107th anniversary of the pictured explosion. the caption in the article also includes the full date. however, i hesitate to add the full date to the blurb's caption as your tfa nomination of the article did not include it, and i was not sure why. dying (talk) 01:22, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
- Dying Feel free to add the full date. The only reason it's not included is because it didn't cross my mind. Hog Farm Talk 04:48, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
DYK for CSS Pontchartrain
![]() | On 21 May 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article CSS Pontchartrain, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the captain of CSS Pontchartrain was twice detached from the ship to fight in land battles? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/CSS Pontchartrain. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, CSS Pontchartrain), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page. |
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of CSS Pontchartrain
The article CSS Pontchartrain you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:CSS Pontchartrain for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Ealdgyth -- Ealdgyth (talk) 15:41, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of USS Curlew (1862)
The article USS Curlew (1862) you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:USS Curlew (1862) for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Pickersgill-Cunliffe -- Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 22:01, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
Hebrew bible campaign boxes
Hi, I have closed this discussion (pinging Nederlandse Leeuw). Please feel free to merge the templates into a navbox. Let me know if you need any assistance. Thanks! Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 17:51, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
- Also pinging Benjitheijneb, as it's not clear to me if consensus was leaning towards a campaignbox-style template or a bottom-of-the-article navbox (I'd be okay with either route). I'm out of town and won't be able to throw much time/energy into this right now. Hog Farm Talk 02:17, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
New Page Patrol newsletter May 2022
Hello Hog Farm,
At the time of the last newsletter (No.26, September 2021), the backlog was 'only' just over 6,000 articles. In the past six months, the backlog has reached nearly 16,000, a staggering level not seen in several years. A very small number of users had been doing the vast majority of the reviews. Due to "burn-out", we have recently lost most of this effort. Furthermore, several reviewers have been stripped of the user right for abuse of privilege and the articles they patrolled were put back in the queue.
Several discussions on the state of the process have taken place on the talk page, but there has been no action to make any changes. The project also lacks coordination since the "position" is vacant.
In the last 30 days, only 100 reviewers have made more than 8 patrols and only 50 have averaged one review a day. There are currently 736 New Page Reviewers, but about a third have not had any activity in the past month. All 1034 administrators have this permission, but only about a dozen significantly contribute to NPP.
This means we have an active pool of about 450 to address the backlog. We cannot rely on a few to do most of the work as that inevitably leads to burnout. A fairly experienced reviewer can usually do a review in a few minutes. If every active reviewer would patrol just one article per day, the backlog would very quickly disappear.
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Alexander the Great Edition Triple Laurel Crown
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Congrats on being the 42nd winner of the Alexander the Great tier! A very difficult achievement. — Bilorv (talk) 22:47, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
- My most purple prose of congratulation and salutation, noble conqueror! Long in the fields abstract and definite - memory and edifice - shall your contributions and works be recalled and celebrated! –♠Vami_IV†♠ 06:42, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Battle of Raymond/archive1
Did an image review. It pretty much passes, but a couple minor points. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 7.8% of all FPs 18:31, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
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Battle of Raymond
I put in the new tripartite image for the lead. Caption might need a small tweak now. Hope that helps! Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 7.9% of all FPs 21:25, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Adam Cuerden: - Thanks for uploading the higher-quality image! I've changed the caption so that it fits the new image a bit better. Hog Farm Talk 21:33, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
- I found some good images of John Logan, if you think they'd help. [1]. Happy to do any of the commanders who are significantly prominent and have half-decent originals, honestly. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 7.9% of all FPs 23:30, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
- Also a really nice McPherson: https://npg.si.edu/search/collections?edan_local=1&edan_q=James%2BMcPherson& Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 7.9% of all FPs 23:39, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Adam Cuerden: - Which one's your favorite McPherson? It would be a good addition to the article. Hog Farm Talk 23:46, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
- Also a really nice McPherson: https://npg.si.edu/search/collections?edan_local=1&edan_q=James%2BMcPherson& Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 7.9% of all FPs 23:39, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
- I found some good images of John Logan, if you think they'd help. [1]. Happy to do any of the commanders who are significantly prominent and have half-decent originals, honestly. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 7.9% of all FPs 23:30, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
- I'd say the first - the Barr and Young - is probably the best on pose ground. The weird leaning limits my liking for the Brady images in this case. Just seems very... off. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 7.9% of all FPs 23:49, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
- Also, turns out we have a good Gregg image if you want the Confederate general too. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 7.9% of all FPs 00:42, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
- Based on the uniform, I have a suspicion that the Gregg one is John Irvin Gregg instead. Hog Farm Talk 01:12, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
- Just realising that myself. Ah, well. There's [2] but it's not nearly as good. On the upside, John Irvin Gregg didn't have an image before now, so... some benefit to my mistake. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 7.9% of all FPs 01:48, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
- Based on the uniform, I have a suspicion that the Gregg one is John Irvin Gregg instead. Hog Farm Talk 01:12, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
Hm. Okay, this is worrying.
David McMurtrie Gregg, with the exact same button unbuttoned and hairstyle as his cousin...
Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 7.9% of all FPs 12:03, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
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Tropical cyclone
Tropical cyclone was delisted last year following a FAR (you participated there). I am trying to work at getting the article up to standard. Does the article now look a lot better than the version that was delisted last year? There's still a lot to do and add... What areas or subtopics do you think need more discussion besides preparations (which I am getting ready to do now), response, and structure? NoahTalk 16:15, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
- Happy to see you back in the saddle, Noah! I am confused about why it is not listed at Wikipedia:Contributor copyright investigations/WikiProject Tropical cyclones 03; if it needs a CCI, it would be helpful for me if we could get that out of the way prior to FAC, as my ability to spend extended time editing has become complicated. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 16:50, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
- Lead still needs work imo (t · c) buidhe 16:54, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah, I thought that would be best for last. There’s still a lot of issues with the article that I have to fix and it will likely take months for it to be ready for a proper peer review. It doesn’t help me out considering many sub articles either are in bad shape or simply don’t exist. NoahTalk 17:07, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Buidhe: I partially undid your removal of the see also section in order to keep the current cyclone seasons and the portal there since it wouldn't be feasible to mention these within the prose. There will likely be a sizable expansion required to get this article up to par. I know others may disagree on the size of an article, but limiting the word count would mean not covering everything in as much detail as we need to for such a diverse topic. It's at 55.6k prose right now, which is not small but not very large either. I mean, we had James Longstreet, which had a whopping 96k prose when it passed FAC. I don't think it needs to be that large, but I think it will go over 70k once all three sections that need substantial content additions are complete. What are your thoughts on the changes I have made since the article was delisted? I hope it's heading in the right direction. I don't have any experience with writing topic-level articles such as this so I have to guess and hope I'm doing it right. NoahTalk 00:00, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
- Lead still needs work imo (t · c) buidhe 16:54, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
- Noah, I'll try to take a look at this later this week - I'm still trying to get caught up after being somewhat inactive last week. Hog Farm Talk 01:18, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
question re possible roles
Hi there. I am the Lead Coordinator at WikiProject History. we could use some experienced editors there, who have some knowledge of editing and of history-related topics, to serve as coordinators there. would you be at all interested? please feel free to let me know. thanks!!! --Sm8900 (talk) 19:33, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
- @SM8900: - Unfortunately no, I'm a bit overextended right now as it is. Hog Farm Talk 02:44, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of 2nd Kansas Infantry Regiment
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article 2nd Kansas Infantry Regiment you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Pickersgill-Cunliffe -- Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 10:20, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
Oswald Boelcke
Hello,
Will you be returning to the A Class Review of the above article? I am under the impression you were planning a more thorough evaluation of this nomination.Georgejdorner (talk) 01:22, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
- I've supported at the ACR, but would anticipate questioning the Google Maps issue a bit harder at FAC. Hog Farm Talk 03:55, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you for your review. I share your trepidation about the Google Maps references, but Mr.Bee1966 seemed set on them.Georgejdorner (talk) 19:02, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
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- Remedy 2 of the Rachel Marsden case has been rescinded following a motion. The remedy previously authorised administrators to delete or reduce to a stub, together with their talk pages, articles related to Rachel Marsden when they violate Wikipedia's biographies of living persons policy.
- An arbitration case regarding WikiProject Tropical Cyclones has been closed.
Zurich Bog AFD
Thanks for saying all the things I would have said if I had caught this in time... dm (talk) 17:47, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
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By the authority vested in me by myself it gives me great pleasure to present you with this award in recognition of the enormous amount of work you do behind the scenes at the Military History Project. It is appreciated. Gog the Mild (talk) 14:32, 8 June 2022 (UTC) |
Congratulations - May 2022 MilHist Article Writing Contest
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On behalf of the Milhist coordinators, I hereby award you the WikiChevrons, for placing first in the May 2022 Military History Article Writing Contest, achieving 58 points from 7 articles. Well done! Zawed (talk) 10:17, 8 June 2022 (UTC) |
GA reassessments
Hi, I don't know if you also deal with Good Articles, but here is a list of GA that should be delisted. T8612 (talk) 14:53, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
- Alexander the Great: vast amounts of text rely on Arrian and Plutarch.
- First Macedonian War: paraphrase of Livy and Polybius.
- Battle of Lechaeum: only seven (!) footnotes, 5 of which to Xenophon. How can this start-class be a GA is unfathomable.
- Greco-Persian Wars, Ionian Revolt, First Persian invasion of Greece, Battle of Marathon, Battle of Artemisium, Second Persian invasion of Greece, Siege of Naxos (499 BC), Battle of Salamis, Wars of the Delian League, Battle of Mycale, Battle of Lade, Battle of Plataea, Siege of Eretria, Battle of Thermopylae, : paraphrases of Herodotus, then the main secondary source is Tom Holland (not an academic).
- Battle of Salamis (306 BC): paraphrase of Diodorus and Plutarch.
- Constitution of the Roman Republic, History of the Roman Constitution, Senate of the Roman Republic, Legislative assemblies of the Roman Republic, History of the Constitution of the Roman Republic: series of article mainly based on Abbott (1901), who was not an academic historian and is frankly outdated (when not plainly wrong). There are also references to Robert Byrd, who was an American senator, not an academic.
- @T8612: - I'm less active at GAR, but I'll take a look at some of these. I was actually just recently talking to Gog the Mild about how the First Macedonian War needs delisted from MILHIST A-Class, so I'm starting with a ACR re-review there. I'll list Lechaeum for GAR but I generally don't have more than one or two GARs up at a time because it's easier to forget about those. Hog Farm Talk 18:20, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of 2nd Kansas Infantry Regiment
The article 2nd Kansas Infantry Regiment you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:2nd Kansas Infantry Regiment for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Pickersgill-Cunliffe -- Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 17:42, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Duckport Canal
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Duckport Canal you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Zawed -- Zawed (talk) 10:21, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
Congratulations from the Military History Project
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On behalf of the Military History Project, I am proud to present the A-Class medal with Oak Leaves for Battle of Raymond, CSS Baltic, and Battle of Van Buren. Zawed (talk) via MilHistBot (talk) 00:30, 16 June 2022 (UTC) |
TFA
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Thank you today for Battle of St. Charles, introduced: "After a Union army gets bogged down without a supply line in northern Arkansas, a mixed navy and army force moves upriver to resupply them. During a brief action with Confederate fortifications on the bluffs above the river, a stray shot hits one of the Union ships in the boiler, horrifically killing or injuring almost everyone aboard with scalding steam. The Confederates are flushed out, but low water levels keep the ships from successfully resupplying the Union army in northern Arkansas, which eventually extricates itself on its own." --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:55, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of USS Squando
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article USS Squando you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Pickersgill-Cunliffe -- Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 11:20, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
Promotion of Battle of Raymond
![]() | Congratulations, Hog Farm! The article you nominated, Battle of Raymond, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best articles on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured article. Keep up the great work! Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) via FACBot (talk) 12:05, 19 June 2022 (UTC) |