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Elvis Presley's stats in the article
Recent changes in some of his achievements listed, particularly "Most top 40 singles" and "Most Hot 100 entries" has me wondering what the consensus is regarding how we list these. It is noted with his numbers that they include both Hot 100 and pre-Hot 100 chart data, and a few editors are wanting to focus on just his Hot 100 stats, which is not a reflection of his overall career (that started more than two years before the Hot 100 did). For the two categories I mentioned above, this may seem less of a deal when compared to the numbers of contemporary artists (like Drake and Lil Wayne), but an edit to his count for "Most number-one singles" (diff)(a recent edit I reverted, returning his count from 7 to 18) is quite another story. It is true that he had only seven (7) number-one singles on the Hot 100 itself, as indicated here, but his other number ones before August 1958 (on various pre-Hot 100 pop charts like Best Sellers, Most Played by DJs, and even the Top 100) are just as important to his career, if not more so. That being said, unless another consensus is reached to focus on only his Hot 100 chart entries, we should stick to reporting the data associated with his entire career (Hot 100 and before). MPFitz1968 (talk) 17:52, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
- The article is about Billboard Hot 100 achievements, not Rock era achievements. As such, all stats in this article should focus on everyone's Hot 100 stats and reflect what Billboard currently has. This issue is not new: I went back through the talk archives and noticed a similar conversation occurred in 2006! Richard Hendricks (talk) 21:23, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
- I'm a little confused mostly by Elvis being listed as having 18 number-one singles. For all of the other statistics Billboard would agree with it, regardless of if it predates the Hot 100, but they're very concrete on him having 17 number one singles because the single, as was issued at the time, was Don't Be Cruel/Hound Dog. I'm not really sure why non-Billboard sources are being used as the yardstick for that ranking, especially given that, predating of the Hot 100 or not, we don't really make that exception for double A-sides on any other article, for any other song, or for any other artist. If the measurement is about double A-sides counting twice for a singles ranking if both sides are big enough then acts like Elton John has a credible argument to be added to the ten club and the Beatles would probably have 21 or 22. I know it was changed a long time ago (for reasons that I'm sure made sense at the the time, though I don't know them) so everyone has gotten used to it but I don't think it should count because ultimate the primary source, the magazine itself, disputes it. That's what should matter. Thurboas (talk) 21:48:20, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
Holiday Songs
I think it is a good idea to include Michael Jackson's Thriller in the holiday song section, as it has made a regular recurrence on the charts in recent years JohnsonJ10 (talk) 01:25, 6 March 2022 (UTC).
Semi-protected edit request on 12 April 2022
Add Ronettes hold record for longest gap between top ten hits, with 58 years and 2 months from Be my Baby in 1963 to Sleigh Ride in 2022 Ry493gr (talk) 05:14, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. MadGuy7023 (talk) 08:07, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
Ariana Grande was credited for 47 weeks of Save Your Tears on the Hot 100. The original received 19 weeks before that. Please change that on the list of longest running Hot 100 songs. Clbjb (talk) 20:34, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
Elvis
Considering the latest Billboard top ten article, in which Billboard specifically lists Drake as the tenth artist with at least ten number one singles, I honestly think the time has come for this article to remove Elvis from the "artists with the most number-one singles" table.
Don't get me wrong, I love Elvis. Elvis is great and his achievements are great but he doesn't have 18 (or 17) number one singles on the Billboard Hot 100. He has, last I checked, 7. Everything else that predates August of 1958 is a number one on what today would be considered a component chart. The Hot 100 just didn't exist when Elvis was at his peak.
I'm not saying he needs to be removed from the section entirely but he should be taken off that ranking. I'm fine with adding a note underneath it detailing that *if* his pre-Hot 100 number one singles were counted then he would be in the section but as it is he shouldn't be included in the actual table. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.6.195.14 (talk) 20:51, 9 May 2022 (UTC)