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May 24
NCAA Division 1 teams that have college football teams but no soccer teams
Are there any NCAA Division 1 teams that have college football teams but do not have any college soccer teams? If so, did they have a soccer program at one point then phased it out, or did they never had any to begin with? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:05, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
- It appears that there are 254 DI football teams (list here: [1]) and only 205 DI men's soccer teams (list here: [2]). There are 333 DI women's soccer teams. Rmhermen (talk) 00:45, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
- Just to clarify as well; not all of the DI institutions that sponsor either men's or women's soccer also sponsor men's football, so subtracting the two numbers will not necessarily give the correct number of schools that sponsors one of the sports, but not the other. Someone would need to go through all three lists and count such schools individually to get a number. --Jayron32 13:30, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
- For example, the Boston University Terriers have soccer but not football. --←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 03:00, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
- Just to clarify as well; not all of the DI institutions that sponsor either men's or women's soccer also sponsor men's football, so subtracting the two numbers will not necessarily give the correct number of schools that sponsors one of the sports, but not the other. Someone would need to go through all three lists and count such schools individually to get a number. --Jayron32 13:30, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
May 26
Late Middle Ages comedy of errors
I'm not sure if this was a book or a short story. The plot is about the English (I think) king getting lost or kidnapped and, somehow or other, ending up in a remote village, where nobody believes him that he's the king, because his portrait on the kingdom's coinage isn't lifelike enough. Does this sound familiar to anyone? 31.217.41.71 (talk) 00:17, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
- The obvious candidate is The Prince and the Pauper. Alansplodge (talk) 11:39, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
- Nice try but afraid this isn't it. I'm pretty sure this was in a rural or semi-rural setting, definitely not London and probably not a 19th century book, it was a newer work. 31.217.12.246 (talk) 13:22, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
- So not A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court? Clarityfiend (talk) 21:54, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
- Hello, 31.217.41.71! A late reply, because I've been searching and failing. I certainly encountered either the book (which I'm 95% sure it is, and that it's post-2000) or a sufficiently detailed description of this story that I recognised yours, around 2-6 years ago. I may even have a copy, since I buy (second-hand) books in this sort of genre and don't always get around to reading them immediately. However, I haven't yet remembered enough about it to track it down. If recollection dawns, I'll try to get back to you. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.209.235.54 (talk) 21:01, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks 87.81.230.195, I hope you can track it down. I'll keep an eye on this reference desk. That does sound like thar could be it, something from 2000s in the vein of Doomsday Book or Eifelheim. 31.217.0.88 (talk) 22:15, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
- So is that Doomsday Book (novel), 1992, and Eifelheim? Both are sci-fi novels set in the 14th century. That hint of the genre might help us search. For what it's worth, it did sound immediately familiar to me, but I can't supply any sort of reference in relation to that. My thought was that I'd seen that plot point mentioned somewhere recently, maybe in a plot synopsis that I'd read. (But that might be pure deja vu with no basis.) I wondered if it might be from a story in a less obvious medium - perhaps a computer game, a children's story, a cartoon episode, a live-action TV episode, or an animated film. Card Zero (talk) 01:02, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks 87.81.230.195, I hope you can track it down. I'll keep an eye on this reference desk. That does sound like thar could be it, something from 2000s in the vein of Doomsday Book or Eifelheim. 31.217.0.88 (talk) 22:15, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
- Nice try but afraid this isn't it. I'm pretty sure this was in a rural or semi-rural setting, definitely not London and probably not a 19th century book, it was a newer work. 31.217.12.246 (talk) 13:22, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
- There's a list of possibilities at TV Tropes: [3]. --Amble (talk) 20:07, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
Better NBA draft pick
From [4]:
- The phrase, bai lan, which has its origin in NBA games, means a voluntary retreat from pursuing certain goals because one realises they are simply too difficult to achieve. In American basketball, it often refers to a player’s deliberate loss of a game in order to get a better draft pick.
I guess that means the team gets a better draft pick due to having a lower win/lose ratio. Would losing a game on purpose be a coach or management decision, rather than of a player? There must be rules against it, so is the decision never spoken out loud but only communicated to the players through some kind of interpretive dance? Thanks. 2601:648:8202:350:0:0:0:738F (talk) 19:06, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
- Personally, I'd say yes, that's overwhelmingly a management or ownership decision. There's been some fuss in the NFL lately after Brian Flores was fired by the Miami Dolphins, and then went public with allegations that the team's owner requested that he deliberately lose games in order to improve their drafting position. See the Lawsuit against NFL and teams section of his article. It's not something a player would particularly care about, in my opinion, for a few reasons: they generally can't influence who their team will pick in the draft; the new player is potentially a competitor for their spot; with the various salary caps in place in NBA and NFL, a better player could potentially mean less money available for their own contract extension; not to mention, sandbagging will generally mean sacrificing their own production, meaning they'll have less leverage in contract negotiations. I'd say it's above their pay grade. Buttons to Push Buttons (talk | contribs) 03:22, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, it would absolutely be a coach's/management decision, although as noted above, this can be very controversial, and can itself lead to sanctions from the league who has to sell advertising rights to its televised games, even the shitty ones. For an example when players themselves do it, see Black Sox scandal, also point shaving, match fixing, etc. When it is done as a deliberate management action, it is often called tanking. --Jayron32 12:32, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
May 28
Hugo Heinz of Berlin, and Dr Leihammer of Vienna
These two teachers of singing, presumably lieder, c. 1910–20, are mentioned in an Australian newspaper article on Leo Darnton, who played Franz Schubert in Lilac Time several times 1928–1937. I can find no mention of either with the resources at my disposal. I'm an interested learner rather than an expert, but the journalist who mentioned the names seems to be one of the latter. The relevant article is at https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/24249325. Doug butler (talk) 23:38, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
- I see no reason to think the journalist was an expert; they just duly reported what Darnton told them in a "personal talk". The people mentioned were singers who apparently also took on students. Darnton may have been motivated to exaggerate their greatness; if so, this may explain why it is not easy to find more mentions. --Lambiam 15:34, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
- Here a Hugo Heinz (actually Heintz) is mentioned, a Liedersänger from Frankfurt. This is a magazine article from 1893/4 about some sort of parade in Hyde Park. --Wrongfilter (talk) 15:49, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
- Also The Musical Courier (1895) says (p. 6b):
- Herr Hugo Heinz, the prominent German vocalist from Frankfurt, is in London , and has already arranged for several important concerts, including the last of the Wagner series and others which will be duly announced. Herr Heinz sang in London some three years ago at a concert given by Mr. Emil Sauret (?) and at another by Mr. Henschel.
- Possibly this is Émile Sauret, who was professor of violin at London's Royal Academy of Music. Alansplodge (talk) 16:37, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
- Here a Hugo Heinz (actually Heintz) is mentioned, a Liedersänger from Frankfurt. This is a magazine article from 1893/4 about some sort of parade in Hyde Park. --Wrongfilter (talk) 15:49, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
This has been most helpful. Thank you. Doug butler (talk) 14:02, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
May 29
Secret societies in video games?
What are some examples of video games which prominently feature secret societies that take it upon themselves to expose and fight against corruption? I personally know of 2 such examples: Infra (Raven Research Institute, which investigates the evil doings of the SNW and which had secretly co-opted Mark's boss Paul Lauwens to be their informant), and Lily's Garden (the "Order of the Ascending Eye", which helps Lily save her aunt Mary's estate from being wrongfully seized on made-up charges of tax evasion) -- are there others? 2601:646:8A81:6070:A06F:E878:4A1E:5C04 (talk) 02:57, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
- See the TV Tropes entry for "Benevolent Conspiracy" for video game examples. Clarityfiend (talk) 10:01, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks, I'll check it out! (Oh, and I kind of jumped the gun about Lily's Garden -- it turned out later on that the "Order" is nothing more than an invitation-only chess club (of all things) and they don't actually help Lily save the estate, and that that one guy who said he was from the Order and was sent to help her actually turned out to be
nothing but a fraudstera spy (who apparently does help her after all, just not on behalf of the Order -- and at a price). I really shouldn't assume anything about this story -- it's far more convoluted than anyone can imagine, I think even the devs were coming up with it on the fly!) 2601:646:8A81:6070:182C:EF1D:CA5E:7351 (talk) 05:41, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks, I'll check it out! (Oh, and I kind of jumped the gun about Lily's Garden -- it turned out later on that the "Order" is nothing more than an invitation-only chess club (of all things) and they don't actually help Lily save the estate, and that that one guy who said he was from the Order and was sent to help her actually turned out to be
May 30
Bridge a sport - only duplicate bridge, or also with chance?
The IOC recognizes contract bridge as a sport. But does that apply only to duplicate bridge or also to rubber bridge with randomly dealt cards? --KnightMove (talk) 09:09, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
- It's not a sport according to the European Court of Justice, whether duplicate or just plain contract.[5] (It's no more a sport than poker or gin rummy IMO, regardless of what the IOC says.) Clarityfiend (talk)
- Some countries do recognize poker and duplicate bridge as sports. I'm not very familiar with bridge, so I'm not sure if that includes rubber bridge. I'm thinking probably not, but logically a player (a team) who has an advantage in duplicate bridge will ceteris paribus have an advantage in rubber bridge, just often take much longer to realize it because the luck of starting hands isn't removed. 31.217.0.88 (talk) 22:29, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
- That's quite right. And as a player of duplicate bridge I'd like to note that it certainly does not eliminate all elements of luck. You can get the same good result because you made a clever play or because your opponents made a stupid one; or because you tried a play that would only work if your left-hand opponent had exactly six cards in hearts, but this was true; or because your opponents' methods work better for certain types of deals but none of those deals can up in the match.
- On the subject, I can't resist posting this dialogue, which I transcribed years ago from the TV sitcom Sports Night. The show was set at a TV sports channel, and in this episode, the staff realized that, by a coincidence of scheduling, there was next to nothing going on that day in any sport that their viewers might be interested in, and so they had next to nothing to report on. So they had a meeting...
- Natalie: Here's something.
- Dana: What?
- Natalie: East bid 2 clubs, South bid 4 diamonds, and North came back with 5 notrump.
- Dana: Bridge?
- Natalie: Yeah.
- Dana: [pause] Is there footage? [Natalie nods]
- Casey: We're going to cover bridge?
- Dan: [It]'s the sport of kings.
- Dana: No, once again, it's not the sport of kings. Horse racing is the sport of kings.
- Jeremy [aside]: Give me the dumplings.
- Dan: What's bridge the sport of?
- Dana: Bridge isn't a sport.
- Dan: Sure it's a sport.
- Dana: Well, I think at the very least people have to be moving.
- Count me with Dana. --174.95.160.48 (talk) 03:58, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
- On the subject, I can't resist posting this dialogue, which I transcribed years ago from the TV sitcom Sports Night. The show was set at a TV sports channel, and in this episode, the staff realized that, by a coincidence of scheduling, there was next to nothing going on that day in any sport that their viewers might be interested in, and so they had next to nothing to report on. So they had a meeting...
- The issue is more how one defines the term sport. The European Court of Justice did not rule on the general meaning of the term, but solely[6] on how the term should be interpreted specifically in the context of article 132(1)(m) of the EU VAT Directive 2006/112/EC, which states: "Member States shall exempt the following transactions: [...] (m) the supply of certain services closely linked to sport or physical education by nonprofit-making organisations to persons taking part in sport or physical education". When ruling on the interpretation of the text of a law, courts generally also consider what the legislators meant, which obviously includes the context in which a term is used, but may also include the deliberations of the legislative bodies as laid down in the minutes. Clearly, more in general, people also use the term sport to refer to a competitive skill-based activity that does not involve significant physical exertion. When people have different points of view on the issue whether chess is a sport,[7][8] it does not tell us how they view the game of chess, but merely how broadly or narrowly they interpret the term sport. --Lambiam 09:50, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
Good form, bad form
We hear phrases like "he is in good form" or "he is out of form" in sports such as cricket, football or tennis. I could not find an article or even a section on this concept of form. In the context of sport we have form (exercise) which is different. The form I'm looking for is psychological, or related to the confidence level of the player. Can someone point me to content about it. Jay (talk) 11:18, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
- I doubt if there is any here. It's just an expression, and Wikipedia is not a dictionary. The phrase "in good form" shows up in many articles, but that's about it. It's also applied to singers and others (e.g. Rodgers and Hammerstein for their work in The Sound of Music). Clarityfiend (talk) 11:28, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
- Definition 2.7 of "form" at Wiktionary makes this meaning clear. Shantavira|feed me 11:40, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
- Personally, I've always understood it to be referring to the Horse Racing version (Form (horse racing) - the idea that recent results can indicate future performance. Nanonic (talk) 15:12, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
May 31
Recent pictures of actors in past movies
Hi all,
I often see pictures of actors in articles about movies and the pictures are taken years after the movie. I think it doesn't really make sense because the information people should get in an article is how actors actually looked in the movie. For example, in the article about Titanic which was released in 1997, the picture of DiCaprio is from 2014 and the picture of Winslet is from 2011 (Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titanic_(1997_film)#Cast). I've seen the same thing in many other articles and it always kind of bugs me. Should it be changed? Ericdec85 (talk) 05:58, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
- The problem presumably relates to finding and uploading an appropriate non-copyrighted photo, or a fair-use rationale for using a non-free image. For example, the c:Category:Leonardo DiCaprio in 1997 has no images. --2603:6081:1C00:1187:7C90:56FA:1615:6FF8 (talk) 06:31, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
- This is one of those weird things about Wikipedia: that original research is forbidden, but the only photos allowed are either certified to be free or are taken by editors... which constitutes "original research", in that we have to take the editor's word that the subject is who it is claimed to be. --←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 06:52, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
- If, and only if, you have access to pictures which are compatible with Wikipedia's reuse license. See WP:IUP for more details. The reason why more pictures aren't available is that Wikipedia only allows the use of images which are either a) in the public domain (which means there is no valid copyright on them) or b) which are explicitly licensed as CC-BY-SA. It is the responsibility of the uploader to prove such images are correctly licensed, if they did not take the picture themselves, and as such, essentially all images you find on the internet are not appropriate for Wikipedia use. --Jayron32 11:49, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
Name That carToon
I'm looking for the name (and hopefully online streaming location) of a classic cartoon from the Golden age of American animation with the following premise:
A viscous→mean guard dog is guarding a construction site. Undaunted, an adorable little kitten walks up to the snarling beast; purring, the kitten rubs against the dog with a little "mieu". Instantly smitten, the dog spends the rest of the cartoon rescuing the kitten from various perils and misadventures on the construction site. Thanks in advance (I'm going to bed and wont respond for awhile). --2603:6081:1C00:1187:7C90:56FA:1615:6FF8 (talk) 06:01, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
- There's more than one cartoon with a similar theme. See Marc Antony and Pussyfoot. And I assume you meant "vicious", as the dog does not appear to be fluid. :) --←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 06:46, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
- You're right; I
stand→sit corrected. --2603:6081:1C00:1187:7C90:56FA:1615:6FF8 (talk) 19:16, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
- You're right; I
- That appears to be "Cat Feud", directed by the great Chuck Jones. Youtube has a excerpt. Clarityfiend (talk) 08:11, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks. I didn't realize that Marc Antony and Pussyfoot were recurring characters. --2603:6081:1C00:1187:7C90:56FA:1615:6FF8 (talk) 15:21, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
Watch 3 movies
Hi everybody! Sorry for the unhelpful title. I'd like to watch the movies:
- " Good Mourning", starring Machine Gun Kelly, Megan Fox, Becky G etc. Actually, I need to find subtitles and I don't know where, the movie itself I have it, just need greek subtitles if possible.
- " Big Bang Made the Movie", starring boy band Big Bang. I need both movie and subtitles, I doubt about greek ones but english would be really helpful.
- "The Act III: Moment of Truth the End", starring G-Dragon. Again, I need as above, just because I do not want to pay YouTube premium.
Thanks - fenia🖤tellmehi 10:38, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
Paul Plunkett
Apologies for presuming on your assistance once again. While checking whether we had an article on the Australian operetta singer Paul Plunkett (we don't), I found in Paul Plunkett (disambiguation) the name Anna Freeman (born 1954), Australian trumpeter. There's no shortage of references to the Australian classical trumpeter Paul Plunkett, who is probably the Paul Francis Plunkett born April 7 1954. From the authorship of Beyond Brass Basics and the early history of the Freeman article, it would appear these are the same person, but there is now no mention of such in the article. Is this a BLP issue ? Doug butler (talk) 14:30, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
- Evidently Paul Plunket and Anna Freeman are the same person (see this Wikipedia snapshot from 3/22/2016). The article should include "Born Paul Plunket, [date]", but unlike Wendy Carlos where transgederism is well documented, assuming such might indeed fall under BLP without proper sourcing. --2603:6081:1C00:1187:7C90:56FA:1615:6FF8 (talk) 17:32, 31 May 2022 (UTC)