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I don't use irc often, but my account name on Libera is DougWeller.
Clayton Morris suggestions
Hi Doug,
I was wondering if you'd had a chance to review my edit request on the Clayton Morris talk page. I am interested in expanding the article and ensuring it adheres to NPOV and BLP.
I recognize your active editing and admin role, and your participation in the discussion on the Biographies of Living Persons noticeboard.
I'd value your input and look forward to your help in making these changes.
Warmly,
Lindsey — Preceding unsigned comment added by LabradoriteRocks (talk • contribs) 19:02, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
Aisha
Please explain your revert. What "sourced text" was removed? TrangaBellam (talk) 19:48, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
- @TrangaBellam The paragraph about uncertainty over her age. Doug Weller talk 19:50, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
- Which of the lines that were removed by me needed to stay? Which of the supporting sources did pass RS?
- Long story short, a preponderance of Islamic sources agree that she was married at a very young age (<8) and the marriage was consummated upon her reaching sexual maturity, which was at about nine to ten. As is very obvious, these were not outlier norms in a large part of the world at that time and to impose our anachronistic moral judgements is ridiculous.
- It was only in the early twentieth century that Christian polemicists started to made an issue of this (see Brown (2014)); even prior to that, Muhammad's (alleged) lust in dreams etc. have been subject of polemics but never the particulars of age. Obviously, Hindu communalists (Arya Samaj etc.) in S. Asia were not far behind either. At the same time, Egypt etc. were trying to strengthen laws against child-marriage only to come across neo-conservative Muslims who weaponized Muhammad's life to argue that they shall be allowed to marry five year old girls. Thus, multiple Muslim scholars, often backed by states, become involved in "discovering" ways to "sanitize" aspects of Muhammad's life that were unpalatable to our modern-day senses - it served two goals simultaneously. TrangaBellam (talk) 20:04, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
- @TrangaBellam I didn’t see your edit at all and thought I was reverting the other editor, I’ve reverted back to your version. Doug Weller talk 20:20, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
- Ah - I understand now. No worries! TrangaBellam (talk) 12:06, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- @TrangaBellam I didn’t see your edit at all and thought I was reverting the other editor, I’ve reverted back to your version. Doug Weller talk 20:20, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
Invite to comment
Hi Doug, Thank you for your feedback on my contributions earlier. I appreciate you taking the time to do so and on self-reflection and after reading multiple Wikipedia policies I must admit I have room for improvement. I am striving to be more collaborative.
As I embark on this journey, I would like you to please leave your comments at Talk:WikiIslam. I have suggested a few edits to the lede.
NebulaOblongata (talk) 10:59, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
Patriot Front
I'm beginning o think that we need to deal with Patriot Front apologists and their weird attempts at plausible deniability/false flag assertions according to NONAZIs. Nobody is making those claims in good faith, and they serve the same narrative of un-personing their targeted groups that NONAZIs confronts. Acroterion (talk) 11:22, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Acroterion Sounds good to me. I'm off to chemo shortly and may not be active much, although if the wifi works I may be online some during the 2 hours+ I'm at the hospital. Once home I'm probably having dinner and tv. Doug Weller talk 11:50, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- After chemo, dinner and TV seem like the best choice, rather than little Nazis. Best wishes, Acroterion (talk) 11:53, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
Language status tagging again
Hi, Doug. Drawing your attention to Special:Contributions/1.126.105.219, the latest contributions by the hasty poster of language status graphics (and now categories) by the 1.126.105.* user who you'd already blocked under 1.126.105.119. Largoplazo (talk) 20:10, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Largoplazo Blocked but can you take it to ANI as I’m going to bed. Thanks Doug Weller talk 20:28, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
Meonwara, Jutes etc
Hi Doug. Long time time since we last had words. Hope that you are OK?
We seem to have a problem mainly in the Anglo-Saxon Kingdoms project with an editor who has given us a bit of headache with their editing. They have probably done more than 1000 edits over about 49 articles. They have achieved this by misusing OR/SYNTH, WP:PRIMARY and WP:OLDSOURCES, or sources such as wiktionary! Some of us have tried to mentor them but it seems to fall on deaf ears. The main areas intially were on Meonwara and Wihtwara but seems to be anything to do with things Jutish, including modern towns and villages. The editor started as an IP 2603:6010:de3d:3ff6:8c5e:f8c6:adac:6194 but now uses Ovid99. It is not really straightforward vandalism. There is an ongoing discussion on theAnglo-Saxon Kingdoms project page. Any suggestions? Regards. Wilfridselsey (talk) 21:18, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Wilfridselsey sort of ok, but tired right now, read some of the posts above about my cancer. I think ANI is going to be the only answer and said that there. Doug Weller talk 14:35, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
Hi Doug. Thanks for the suggestion. I am really sorry to hear about your cancer. All the very best. Wilfridselsey (talk) 16:29, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
Patriot Front article
Doug,
The sole reference to patriotfront.com on the article about them fails miserably to balance all the other citations that paint the group in ugliness.
I started reading the wiki article and got the impression that Patriot Front would be nazi-tattooed skinheads with baseball bats, frozen urine bottles, body armor, bike locks, chains, and such like Antifa, with a history of arson, assaults, vandalism, and violence but all I found were mamby pamby actions like counter protesting, disseminating flyers, and putting up stickers. Compare the tone of this article with the Antifa one and the bias is obvious. The Antifa article even includes content that defends the movement. Not so the much less violent Patriot Front article. I think the heavy use of left-of-center sources in the Patriot Front article skews it.
I'd hate to see Wikipedia reduced to nothing more than another political propaganda machine! This is not the path for the platform to earn credibility in the world of academia.
Thanks!
Richard — Preceding unsigned comment added by Richwilkinson (talk • contribs) 20:27, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
- Not Doug but as I'm sure he'll tell you, discussions about content disputes need to happen with a broader audience, so discuss it on the talk page. PRAXIDICAE🌈 20:29, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Richwilkinson That’s right I’m not discussing it here. Doug Weller talk 20:41, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
Hopeless
Re this, I’m not sure there’s any point. He’s seems too disengaged with reality. DeCausa (talk) 08:00, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
- @DeCausa amazingly so. But I guess we can let him rant on this talk page, he's only proving why the block is necessary. Doug Weller talk 08:42, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
- Hi folks. One thing that puzzles me is that if he has great difficulty with non-verbal communication, as he has said numerous times when trying to get people to talk to him by phone... what does he think Wikipedia is? Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 15:56, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
- Only one thing that puzzles? I think there’s just too much about that situation that can’t be figured out in a medium like Wikipedia. I have a suspicion it’s in his own best interest not to be here. DeCausa (talk) 16:41, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
- Definitely, yes - he's not good for Wikipedia, and Wikipedia is not good for him. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 16:46, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Boing! said Zebedee@DeCausa I’m not sure what he’s actually published. (Redacted) Doug Weller talk 17:34, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
- Definitely, yes - he's not good for Wikipedia, and Wikipedia is not good for him. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 16:46, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
- Only one thing that puzzles? I think there’s just too much about that situation that can’t be figured out in a medium like Wikipedia. I have a suspicion it’s in his own best interest not to be here. DeCausa (talk) 16:41, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
okay gesture
greetings: i have replied on the article talk page. aside from the misuse of the accessdate parameter, i stand by my edit and request that it be restored using the correct parameter for the archive link, or the prose corrected to reflect the change in the ADL statement. .usarnamechoice (talk) 18:02, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- But there’s a revised version now and that’s what we should use. Doug Weller talk 18:12, 19 June 2022 (UTC)