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Abolish importance assessment for a core list and taskforces
Since this WikiProject has been unmarked as active and is apparently not going anywhere, I am going to resurrect this proposal I had in August that got some minor feedback but ultimately didn't go anywhere. To prevent it from being archived once again until sufficient discussion has occurred, I have pinned it.
I've thought about it and come to realize that the nominal "importance" parameter of the WikiProject banner probably doesn't best serve the needs of this project. I say we get rid of it and have a "core" list of 50 cities, like they do at the Film and Biography WikiProjects, and divvy up the other cities into various taskforces, such as a National Capitals taskforce, an American settlements taskforce, etc. My list for the core is as follows, but can be changed.
Alexandria
Algiers
Amsterdam
Athens
Baghdad
Bangkok
Beijing
Berlin
Buenos Aires
Cairo
Cape Town
Chennai
Chicago
Damascus
Delhi
Dubai
Hong Kong
Istanbul
Jakarta
Jerusalem
Johannesburg
Karachi
Kuala Lumpur
Lagos
Lisbon
London
Los Angeles
Macau
Madrid
Manila
Mecca
Melbourne
Mexico City
Moscow
Mumbai
Nairobi
New York City
Paris
Rio de Janeiro
Rome
Saint Petersburg
San Francisco
São Paulo
Seoul
Shanghai
Singapore
Sydney
Taipei
Tokyo
Washington, D.C.
As the previous discussion revealed, quite a few of these cities have their own WikiProjects and are taskforces of other WikiProjects. It was suggested that they could have their own taskforces, but I feel that that would be suboptimal. Let me know what you think! – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 03:58, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
- Since nobody has said anything to the contrary, I have gone ahead and removed the importance assessment. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 13:53, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
- John M. Wolfson, while a big fan of New York City and San Francisco, California, we have been urged to bring through the southwestern part of the US, such as Phoenix, Arizona and Houston, Texas as growing in the business and population sectors. My upstate city is Syracuse, NY (next to Rome-Utica of the Mohawk Valley) and now Buffalo and Rochester, NY with black Mayoral leadership today.
- We also need Eastern European cities (e.g., Krakow and Warsaw, Poland), which have also been plundered at times, in the mix of new banking and economic development (e.g., today, Bank of Ukraine and Import and Export Bank), and even humanitarian aid; climate change conference and EU leadership meetings; donor versus recipient Nations at Covid-19 vaccinesl
- Of course, Toronto, Canada under the Justin Trudeau Administration, and Quebec province would love you too!
- Julie Ann Racino, Syracuse University Alumni, 2022 2603:7081:2000:3EF3:C580:D643:A164:FE94 (talk) 19:57, 11 March 2022 (UTC)JARacino2603:7081:2000:3EF3:C580:D643:A164:FE94 (talk) 19:57, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
- I have now completed the transition, duly changing the template and tagging all the core cities. I decided on three taskforces: the core cities, a national capitals taskforce, and a regional capitals taskforce. Now that this has been done I am unpinning this discussion, and any further discussion can happen in subsequent sections of this talkpage. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 00:50, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
- @John M Wolfson: while i agree you can take silence as tacit support, you need to make the change correctly: in this case, set up all of the categories that this change will require, BEFORE implementing it in the template. Accordingly, I have reverted your template change pending your doing so. Thanks, UnitedStatesian (talk) 20:44, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
- Done, thanks. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 22:53, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
- @John M Wolfson: while i agree you can take silence as tacit support, you need to make the change correctly: in this case, set up all of the categories that this change will require, BEFORE implementing it in the template. Accordingly, I have reverted your template change pending your doing so. Thanks, UnitedStatesian (talk) 20:44, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
Today, on Ukranian and Polish cities as Russian Federation is engaged in active war toward the Ukraine since February 23, 2022 (See, telephone call to Ukranian Ambassador to the UN reported live on CSPAN at the UN). We warn our readers right now regarding criminal reporting on bombings in the Ukraine by Russia in both 2014 and 2022; on WWI and WWII reports regarding Germany and Russia; and on the lack of the most basic facts or factual disputes. Situation in Ukraine live today (3/10/22) with 2.3 million reported refugees in 10 days due to Russia bombings; US President Biden calls the attacks by Russia on the Ukraine, unprovoked and unjustified in 2022. Julie Ann Racino, Syracuse University Alumni, 2022 2603:7081:2000:3EF3:C580:D643:A164:FE94 (talk) 19:38, 11 March 2022 (UTC)JARacino2603:7081:2000:3EF3:C580:D643:A164:FE94 (talk) 19:38, 11 March 2022 (UTC) 3rd generation Polish American
FAR for Dawson Creek
I have nominated Dawson Creek for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Z1720 (talk) 18:00, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
FAR for Chadderton
I have nominated Chadderton for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Hog Farm Talk 03:57, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
Singapore Urban area seems to be using incorrect numbers.
The Urban area section of the list of largest cities seems to be using incorrect numbers for Singapore. I can't think of a methodology by which the Singapore urban area would be 600 KM^2 larger than the country, but contain fewer people than the country, much less fewer people than the city center.
It would be my guess that the population numbers are taken from two different sources with either different years or methodologies. Both are in the right ballpark of the total population of Singapore, but the country of Singapore only has a land area of 724 km^2. If the urban area's area figure is including parts of Malaysia, the population figure definitely is not. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ArkTolei (talk • contribs) 05:11, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
- @ArkTolei: I'm not sure where you're seeing those numbers. Could you post a link to the page with the seemingly incorrect numbers? It may have something to do with including water area, but I am not sure without knowing the specific article you're looking at. eviolite (talk) 05:18, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
- @Eviolite Sorry this is my first time on the talk pages and I thought they were specific to each article. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_cities is the article in question. All this Syntax is alien to me. ArkTolei (talk) 06:28, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
- @ArkTolei: it looks like whoever put those numbers into the chart made a mistake when filling it in and messed up the rows. The original source for this data has Singapore at a population of 5,901,000 and an area of 523 km2. The 5,271,000 and 1,287 figures in the articles seem to be for Belo Horizonte instead. I can't fix it now since I'm not at home but will try to as soon as possible. Thanks for pointing it out! Also, welcome to Wikipedia—I'll send you a bunch of helpful links for beginners on your own talk page. Best regards, eviolite (talk) 16:25, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
- @Eviolite Sorry this is my first time on the talk pages and I thought they were specific to each article. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_cities is the article in question. All this Syntax is alien to me. ArkTolei (talk) 06:28, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
FAR for San Francisco
I have nominated San Francisco for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. (t · c) buidhe 04:00, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
Nomination for deletion of "Largest cities of " templates
Templates "Largest cities of " has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Triggerhippie4 (talk) 06:56, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
New Wikidata Wikiproject Cities
I have created Wikidata:WikiProject Cities due to the current modelling inconsistencies of cities on Wikidata. Resolving these inconsistencies by creating a formal data model is currently being discussed here. Please join the WikiProject and give feedback about the proposed model! Lectrician1 (talk) 05:12, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
FAR for Darjeeling
I have nominated Darjeeling for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Hog Farm Talk 06:35, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
FAR for History of Sheffield
I have nominated History of Sheffield for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Z1720 (talk) 16:20, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
Requested move at Talk:Cancún#Requested move 26 December 2021
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Cancún#Requested move 26 December 2021 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. — Shibbolethink (♔ ♕) 17:13, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
How to Incorporate Improved Density Calculations
I don't know how to change the infoboxes to reflect better (non original research) density calculations provided here: https://www.greaterauckland.org.nz/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Nunns-2014-NZ-Aus-population-weighted-density-small.pdf
Unfortunately the data is somewhat out of date and only for a few cities, now, but as it stands Wikipedia's infoboxes are endorsing seriously misleading density metrics.125.237.42.6 (talk) 01:29, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
Requested move at Talk:Vučitrn#Requested move 15 January 2022
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Vučitrn#Requested move 15 January 2022 which may be of interest to members of this WikiProject.--Maleschreiber (talk) 18:40, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
How do i join
^ — Preceding unsigned comment added by ChiserYT (talk • contribs) 19:01, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
Spelling in History of Kyiv
Please help find consensus at Talk:History of Kyiv#Consistent spelling of the title term in the text. The question is whether the article text should use the spelling from its title. —Michael Z. 16:32, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
Gyeongju Featured article review
I have nominated Gyeongju for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 17:48, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
Discussion at Talk:Seymour, Indiana § Namechecking and not everything
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Seymour, Indiana § Namechecking and not everything. -- Marchjuly (talk) 23:27, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
- Would some members of this WikiProject mind taking a look at this. The article has recently been expanded quite a bit by a fairly new editor. I think this editor means well, but some of the recent additions seem to be moving too far into WP:LOCAL and WP:NOTEVERYTHING territory. I could be reading too much into this and perhaps others might feel differently which is why I'm asking about it here. Additional input on the article's talk page would be appreciated. -- Marchjuly (talk) 23:32, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
Requested move at Talk:Cities and towns during the Syrian civil war#Requested move 5 March 2022
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Cities and towns during the Syrian civil war#Requested move 5 March 2022 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. 🐶 EpicPupper (he/him | talk) 18:19, 12 March 2022 (UTC)
Discussion on improving our use of geo permastubs
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Village pump (idea lab) regarding improving our management of geographical stubs. The thread is Future discussion on improving our management of geostubs. The discussion is about the topic Wikipedia:Permastubs. Thank you. A. C. Santacruz ⁂ Please ping me! 11:36, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
How to spell the name of Kyiv in the article Odessa
Hi. Please help resolve a dispute at Talk:Odessa#Use the spelling Kyiv because this is not a historical article. —Michael Z. 00:16, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
Requested move at Talk:Rutland (city), Vermont#Requested move 25 March 2022
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Rutland (city), Vermont#Requested move 25 March 2022 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. 🐶 EpicPupper (he/him | talk) 07:21, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
Requested move at Talk:Port Elizabeth#Requested move 28 March 2022
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Port Elizabeth#Requested move 28 March 2022 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. BilledMammal (talk) 20:31, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
FAR for Stretford
I have nominated Stretford for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. (t · c) buidhe 11:39, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
User script to detect unreliable sources
I have (with the help of others) made a small user script to detect and highlight various links to unreliable sources and predatory journals. Some of you may already be familiar with it, given it is currently the 39th most imported script on Wikipedia. The idea is that it takes something like
- John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14. (
John Smith "[https://www.deprecated.com/article Article of things]" ''Deprecated.com''. Accessed 2020-02-14.
)
and turns it into something like
- John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14.
It will work on a variety of links, including those from {{cite web}}, {{cite journal}} and {{doi}}.
The script is mostly based on WP:RSPSOURCES, WP:NPPSG and WP:CITEWATCH and a good dose of common sense. I'm always expanding coverage and tweaking the script's logic, so general feedback and suggestions to expand coverage to other unreliable sources are always welcomed.
Do note that this is not a script to be mindlessly used, and several caveats apply. Details and instructions are available at User:Headbomb/unreliable. Questions, comments and requests can be made at User talk:Headbomb/unreliable.
This is a one time notice and can't be unsubscribed from. Delivered by: MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:01, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
FAR for Belgrade
I have nominated Belgrade for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. (t · c) buidhe 04:35, 30 April 2022 (UTC)