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The result was delete. ✗plicit 12:32, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
Chicago Police Department in popular culture
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Totally unreferenced TVtropic listcruft, sporting a single PRIMARY reference. Created from and still mostly identical to Chicago_Police_Department#Appearances_in_popular_culture which likely needs blanking as being beyond redemption. Fails - take your pick - a myriad of policies, guidelines and like: as an 'in popular culture' article, WP:IPC and MOS:POPCULT/TRIVIA, as a list, WP:NLIST and WP:SALAT, as a potential topic, WP:GNG and WP:INDISCRIMINATE, due to lack of references, WP:OR, WP:V. All those issues are discussed om the essay WP:NOTTVTROPES. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 12:30, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Fictional elements, Law, Popular culture, United States of America, and Illinois. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 12:30, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
- Keep Verifiable list. The usual buffet of policies it is supposed to breach. For example, which parts of WP:SALAT or WP:INDISCRIMINATE do you think are relevant here? Please quote. Johnbod (talk) 12:47, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
- You seriously don't know which part of INDISCRIMINATE applies? Hint: it's in the name. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:45, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
- Delete a huge connection of very, very trivial things and lacking actual sources to back up most of it. Even if we had sources for some of these things, Wikipedia is not meant to be an indiscriminate list of everything, and that is what this article is. The only thing here we have sourced is members of the police department being extras in a film. That probably should not even be on the list, because they are not in the film as Chicago police officers, but Gotham City police officers. So the one sourced item does not belong, unless we change this to "acting credits and non-credited film roles played by current or former members of the Chicago Police Department". This is such a broad list, it clear that some of these mentions are to roles where they people are not portrayed as Chicago police at all.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:20, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
- Delete - Another list of non-notable trivia using no secondary sources. There are no sources actually discussing these items or the concept of the CPD in pop culture as a set or group, meaning it fails WP:LISTN, and none of the individual items are notable. Rorshacma (talk) 15:02, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
- Delete Fails WP:Verifiability due to no reliable sources. Avilich (talk) 15:23, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
- Delete I would say just merge some of this content with the appropriate section of Chicago Police Department, but even that is already rather bloated, if I'm being honest. Agree with the original poster that it just feels very crufty. Sleddog116 (talk) 16:01, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
- Delete Anything relevant should be at the main article. The list is currently wholly unsourced and fails WP:NLIST. AusLondonder (talk) 20:36, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
- Keep. There is sourcing discussing the concept of CPD in popular culture - see for example Out of Exile: The Recusal of the Chicago Police from American Film and Television, 1961-2011. Lack of citations for individual entries is a problem to address through editing. Nikkimaria (talk) 21:59, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
- IFF this is the case, WP:TNT applies as there is nothing in that mess that is rescuable, perhaps outside a wikilink or two. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:46, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
- Delete Per WP:TNT. None is sourced, all is apparently original research, therefore the article is unsalvageable without a total rewrite. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 09:00, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
- Delete. This is an indiscriminate list of just about every television show or film set in Chicago where police have appeared. There's no attempt to provide context or insight, it's just a laundry-list; and an almost completely unreferenced one at that.
- Although the existence of the Arntfield article suggests that this might be a sufficiently notable topic to justify an article, this listicle is not that. This is exactly the type of article to which WP:TNT applies. TJRC (talk) 21:44, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
- Delete as failing WP:OR, having no foundation in independent reliable sources. Also fails WP:V, WP:GNG, WP:NOT and WP:NLIST by extension. In short, WP:STICKTOSOURCES. We don't write Wikipedia articles without suitable sources. Shooterwalker (talk) 18:45, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
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