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Cape to Cairo Road
Hi, People.
We have two articles here, namely the Cape to Cairo Road & the Cairo–Cape Town Highway. Both routes connect Cairo with Cape Town.
Notice that everything written in the Cairo–Cape Town Highway article, except for the "Major Junctions" under the "Infobox", is also found in the Cape to Cairo Road article.
You'll notice that there are only three differences between the two routes, as stated here.
So, in your opinion, is it necessary for there to be two separate articles? GeographicAccountant (talk) 19:15, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
- I don't even think you need to discuss this, just be bold, merge the articles, and redirect one to the other. Dave (talk) 22:24, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
- I agree with Dave on this - merge the two of them together, and redirect one to the other. Roads4117 (talk) 07:49, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
- @Moabdave, Well, there's currently a "discussion" on the Cape to Cairo Road talk page about re-merging the two articles. It was started just over half-a-year ago by User:Amakuru.
- Well, in the past, the Cape to Cairo Road article was the one with information while the Cairo–Cape Town Highway article was a redirect. Then, a certain user decided to make the latter its own article, probably because he thinks each & every one of the Trans-African Highway network routes should have its own article on Wikipedia.
- Notice that from the two titles, the first one represents an "old colonial route" while the latter represents a "current United Nations & African Union designated route". Now, there's an issue of how the notes are to be arranged in whichever article, describing both the "old colonial route" & the "current UN & AU designated route". (i.e. which one should be mentioned first?)
- While I support the idea of returning things back to "the way they were" (i.e. Cairo–Cape Town Highway redirects to Cape to Cairo Road) (the page starts by talking about the "old colonial route" & then later mentions the "UN & AU designated route") (basically how the Cape to Cairo Road article is at the moment), some editors believe that it should be "the other way around" (i.e. Cape to Cairo Road redirects to Cairo–Cape Town Highway) (the article is to be mainly about the "UN & AU designated route" & then the "old colonial route" is to be mentioned in some sort of "History" section).
- So, at the moment, these two routes are the options available & I am trying to see which one would be the best to take. To Be Honest, very-few Wikipedians have participated in that talk page discussion, that's if they even know that one has been started (even though it is listed on "all article alerts"). I am not sure how long it will be until somebody decides to "close that discussion" but anybody who checks out either article will see at the top that there's a merger-discussion happening. GeographicAccountant (talk) 21:52, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
- If a discussion is now dormant with no obvious concensus, be bold and take the lead. In general I don't like seeing 2 Wikipedia articles that are mostly redundant with each other. Depending on the circumstances I normally advocate for a merge, and will sometimes just merge them myself without a discussion. That's especially when both articles are obviously about the same thing. It sounds to me like that's the case here. There are some cases where 2 mostly redundant articles are about separate, but closely related things. In that case I still may argue for a combined article about both topics if it's clear that most sources treat the two objects as the same thing and it would be nearly impossible to have two articles that weren't mostly redundant with each other. There are a select few cases where I have advocated for separate articles even when articles are partially redundant. An example is where the primary colloquial usage of a name is not technically accurate, but there is an accurate use for that name. I don't see any evidence of that being the case here. Dave (talk) 22:48, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
Malaysian Expressway System
Recent edits by an IP (180.75.159.111) has introduced errors (search for "error") at List of expressways and highways in Malaysia and Malaysian Expressway System. Would someone please investigate. Johnuniq (talk) 08:07, 25 January 2023 (UTC)