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Happy Christmas how are you doing Chidiebera (talk) 18:32, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
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random act of giving you this barnstar for doing so much for the covid 19 project Sitaphul (talk) 19:57, 16 April 2021 (UTC) |
BLPPRod
Wow, you are a New Page reviewer and you create an unsourced BLP? Congrats on berating me in the edit summary for pointing out the issues with your own creation (an unsourced, uncategorized, unlinked one-line BLP). Fram (talk) 08:31, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
Remember Wikipedia:Don't demand that editors solve the problems they identify? Sheesh. Fram (talk) 08:35, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Fram: PRODs aren't for "pointing out issues", they're for proposing deletions. You indeed failed WP:BEFORE; pointing that out in my summary isn't "berating" you. And before you accuse me of WP:POINTiness, the reason I create pages like that from time to time is that they're a net plus that I wouldn't otherwise be bothered to write; the fact that they offer a reminder about how quick reviewers are to bite non-perfect content is just a side benefit. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 08:51, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
- Quickly reflecting on this a month out, I think I erred in creating the page without references, particularly since it is a BLP. I bolstered the sourcing and content at Frederick G. Slabach when I revisited it a week or two ago, so it's now a much more solid stub. I do stand by the reasoning I gave here endorsing the WP:Make stubs philosophy, but I don't plan to try creating any unreferenced pages again in the future. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 19:57, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
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Tahir R. Andrabi moved to draftspace
An article you recently created, Tahir R. Andrabi, is not suitable as written to remain published.He is certainly and unquestionably notable by WP:PROF because of the named professorship,. But what you wrote was a directory entry, not an encyclopedia article
An encyclopedia article is not a CV. Make sure the article contains, first, the basic biographical information such as birthyear and birthdplace, then the full sequence of degrees and professional positions in chronological order, with dates. Next, the 5 or so most cited peer-reviewed articles, given in full with coauthors, full name of journals, and links, with the number of citations to each of them from Google Scholar of Scopus or ISI; any national level awards--(not junior awards or awards from their own university) Add major national-level outside positions, such as president of the major national organizations, and any positions of editor-in-chief ; Membership or minor offices in most societies, and service on editorial boards, do not count for much & are better omitted. Very sparse articles attract skepticism. as do those using vague claims and superlatives, or those that list all possible internal and external committes. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's standards] and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page00notify me on my talk p. and I will give it an accelearated review. . DGG ( talk ) 09:32, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
- @DGG: Thanks for articulating your rationale. I have to disagree, per the reasoning at WP:Make stubs—our ultimate goal is to make a comprehensive record of the world's encyclopedic topics, and a directory-style entry for a notable topic is a net positive that moves us closer to that goal than having nothing at all. I'd also add that getting an article launched is often the biggest hurdle in its lifespan; once it exists as a stub, others are often encouraged to expand it. I like to get topics over that initial hurdle. Often I do more, but per WP:VOLUNTEER, that cannot be required of me or demanded to get an article undraftified. Keep in mind that, per WP:AFCPURPOSE, likelihood of deletion is supposed to be the sole AfC evaluation criterion, so notable articles should not be kept in draftspace.For this case, in the spirit of cooperation I'll expand the article a little bit before moving it back to mainspace, but I hope the above is helpful for the future. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 16:35, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
There are stubs, and there are sub-stubs. I look at NPP as they come, without checking who wrote them unless it looks like promotionalism. There was no third party source (tho the source there was is reliable enough for the professorship), and no indication of published work to confirm it. I've seen stubs like that get deleted, whether or not they ought to be. The best chance to get an article like this expanded is right at the start, while you have the CV visible.
But I did make. an error--I moved too rapidly--it would have been better for an incomplete new article to have waited day or two before moving to draft. But there's so much pressure from the new articles coming in that it's easy to get impatient. DGG ( talk ) 00:49, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
Growth Newsletter #18
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Question from Nosebagbear (13:55, 19 May 2021)
Hi Sdkb, this is a test query to a mentor to try out this side of things - please give me a response to try it out! --Nosebagbear (talk) 13:55, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Nosebagbear: Hi 👃🛍️🐻; here's a response! {{u|Sdkb}} talk 15:23, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
Question from David Ayuel Monykuch (17:15, 21 May 2021)
Hi, thank you for reach out to me. I am so glad to hear from you, it’s my first time here today. So I need to take some knowledge about Wikipedia rules. --David Ayuel Monykuch (talk) 17:15, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hi David Ayuel Monykuch; nice to connect! Let me know if you have any questions about anything. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 17:37, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
Question from David Ayuel Monykuch (17:58, 21 May 2021)
Hi, as I tell you it’s my first time to be a member with mentor. So I think I can help you with new user, who want to created their first Wikipedia article. I mean to help other users with great editing in their page. --David Ayuel Monykuch (talk) 17:58, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
- David Ayuel Monykuch, I'm not entirely sure what you are saying here. Do you wish to mentor others yourself? It appears that English may not be your native language, so you may wish to edit in your native language and eventually become a mentor there. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 03:38, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
Question from David Ayuel Monykuch (18:04, 21 May 2021)
Hello, I would like to ask about Wikipedia articles as you have editing more Wikipedia Users page. I have create my own Wikipedia page through sandbox, because I don’t want it to be block from others. Can you please help me to submit my Wikipedia sandbox here is, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:David_Ayuel_Monykuch/sandbox
You can help me with correct editing and spells, before I submit it. Thank you. --David Ayuel Monykuch (talk) 18:04, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
- David Ayuel Monykuch, please see WP:Autobiography for an explanation of why it is a bad idea to write about yourself. The article is currently unreferenced and will be declined if you submit it now. If you choose to proceed anyways, you can submit it by copying and pasting the code
{{subst:Submit}}
. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 03:41, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
Buying Wikipedia
It's not worth arguing about jokes, but I thought that other guy's addition to the page was quite amusing. Consider letting it be, even if you don't personally find it funny, we sure did.
In the end, though, it doesn't really matter. It's a great little page, btw, very laugh, much funny.
Also, nice to meet you! Joe (talk) 13:49, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks, I'm glad you appreciate the page overall! And yeah, sorry to be a stickler on this, but I'm pretty firmly opposed to jokes about buying people like [1] given the legacy of slavery. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 20:08, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- It's a bit of a non sequitur, but what do you mean by 'the legacy of slavery'? You may not know, and it may distress you to learn, that slavery is still very much a thing:
- If one were to make a joke about murder, and someone came along and said, 'best not make that joke, given the legacy of murder,' one might be a bit confused. Perhaps you know all this and you just mean something else by it, in which case I'm lost. Doesn't matter one way or the other for editing purposes, I'm just confused. Joe (talk) 12:38, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- Oh, I think it's probably a U.S. thing; the word "slavery" without any other descriptor is used here to mean slavery of black people prior to the U.S. Civil War. There is indeed still slavery happening elsewhere in the world and in the U.S.; sorry for seeming like I was implying otherwise. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 16:19, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- If one were to make a joke about murder, and someone came along and said, 'best not make that joke, given the legacy of murder,' one might be a bit confused. Perhaps you know all this and you just mean something else by it, in which case I'm lost. Doesn't matter one way or the other for editing purposes, I'm just confused. Joe (talk) 12:38, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
General comment
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An article you recently created, Jennifer Friedlander, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs to meet the standards at WP:PROF, which in this case is likely to be by showing her influence on her field by substantial reviews of her academic books in third-party published independent reliable sources, moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of " An article you recently created, Pierre Englebert, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs to show that it meets WP:PROF, in his case by substantial reviews of his academic books in third-party published independent reliable sources, or my the extent of citations to his work. I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of " |
As you probably know, I like to support articles on notable academics, for there are someo ther editors who tend to be quite skeptical. . You can help by giving the necessary indications of notability in thefirst edit or very soon afterwards in the next hour or so. If you need some additional time, try placing a tag reading {{under construction}} at hte top of the page, which will hold off deletion or draftification for at least a day or so. DGG ( talk ) 02:03, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- @DGG: The two steps I try to consistently take are to note in my edit summary when creating the page that it is notable through WP:NACADEMIC criterion 5, and to include in the article body text the named professorship that the person holds so as to make it clear that NACADEMIC 5 applies. Is there anything else I ought to be doing that would help? {{u|Sdkb}} talk 02:36, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, there is. You would do more to help if you created more than the very minimum. If you write such minimal articles, they may be listed for deletion, by those who do not accept WP:PROF. I don't think it wise to give them an opening. Creating barely minimal stubs , though permitted, is generally disapproved of. DGG ( talk ) 00:25, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
- @DGG: As I said above, often I do expand them more, but per WP:VOLUNTEER, that is not a requirement. Draftifying articles that are properly formatted/referenced just because they're short is not an appropriate course of action; if anyone nominates them for deletion, I can let them know about NPROF and they will presumably withdraw the nomination. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 01:13, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, there is. You would do more to help if you created more than the very minimum. If you write such minimal articles, they may be listed for deletion, by those who do not accept WP:PROF. I don't think it wise to give them an opening. Creating barely minimal stubs , though permitted, is generally disapproved of. DGG ( talk ) 00:25, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
Thank You
Thank you for the review and specific suggestions regarding notability on the Jim Levy(Author) page. I will take your suggestion and look for secondary sources. Thank you. On the whole Taos, New Mexico has a large art community, per population which is fairly well documented (1920 - 1950). However, documentation regarding its more recent artists (1960-2000) is somewhat lacking. Some artists and writers like John Nichols (writer) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Nichols_(writer) have had their works produced by Hollywood etc. so I believe notability is easier to show in those cases, thus I will keep looking. Thanks again for you comments and suggestions as I'm still new to the wiki-world. Taostlt (talk) 21:15, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
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Nomination for deletion of Template:COVID-19 editnotice
Template:COVID-19 editnotice has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Elli (talk | contribs) 09:22, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
69.142.223.188
I cannot upoload a file to wikimedia commons69.142.223.188 (talk) 14:29, 3 June 2021 (UTC)69.142.223.188
- Hi IP! What specific issue are you encountering? The more detail you give, the better chance I or another editor will be able to help. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 16:10, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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The Tireless Contributor Barnstar |
You are doing a tireless job Vhhhhjhgy (talk) 07:40, 4 June 2021 (UTC) |
- @Vhhhhjhgy: Thank you! Eventually I'll need to sleep more... {{u|Sdkb}} talk 17:43, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
WP:BCAST
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Well, you tried
Hopeless. EEng 12:19, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
Actually, maybe not. See recent posts. I somehow feel there's possibility for real change if we can get those two key ideas enacted first.. EEng 16:32, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
Sorry, false hope. I was right the first time. EEng 05:21, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
- @EEng, I appreciate your efforts in the area. I wasn't very optimistic going in that there would be appetite for the sort of reform at DYK that you or I would like to see, but I'm actually reasonably pleased with the fact that there's been such a robust discussion. There's the adage to consider that goes something along the lines of "if they're arguing with you, that means they're paying attention". I hope the effect of this will be to establish the idea of radically reforming DYK as firmly within the realm of discussion, and that might pave the way for a trial of something new actually gaining consensus down the line. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 05:44, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
Question from Articles about me. Only (06:06, 10 June 2021)
Hi --Articles about me. Only (talk) 06:06, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Articles about me. Only! I see you've been making some test edits to articles. If you'd like to experiment, you can do so in your sandbox. Just please don't actually write an article about yourself. Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}} talk 06:59, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
I give up
Hi there ... since communication seems to be a completely foreign idea to the powers that be at Wikipedia, and there seems to be no way to "contact" anyone ... I wanted to let someone know how frustrated I have become with the site before I go. I have attempted to edit articles several times and each time, the article reverts back to the way it was previously with no explanation as to why it was reverted. Sad to say, my experience on Wikipedia is that there is ZERO communication to users attempting to contribute ... nothing, nada, zip, zilch. My time and effort in trying to improve content has been a COMLETE waste of my time! ... something I will never be able to get back. I'm not sure why I have kept trying. Regrettably, I am done trying to contribute to this site. It's obvious that the site does not really want people to contribute for the benefit and knowledge of all ... what a terrible disappointment! Sadly, I have become disheartened by the site and will no longer use it nor speak well of it. NJPWN (talk) 03:18, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
- @NJPWN, I'm sorry you're having such a dispiriting experience editing. The way communication works on Wikipedia can be tricky to figure out, and we don't always do a good job of explaining it to newcomers, so it can sometimes be easy to miss.
- I took a look at your contributions, and it looks like the two articles you've edited recently are Generation Jones and Baby boomers. For Generation Jones, no one else has edited since you did, so your version is the live one. For Baby boomers, it looks like one other editor, @Some1, edited after you. You can see the history of that page, including a record of your edits, by clicking the "view history" tab or going here. According to their edit summary, Some1 "moved the recent additions to another section", so if you search the page, it may be that the content you added wasn't deleted, just moved. If you disagree with any changes they made, you can ask them and I'm sure they'll be willing to explain their rationale and discuss; you can do that just by including
{{ping|Some1}}
in any talk page message. - I hope that info is helpful. If you have any further questions about communication on Wikipedia, you can ask me here and/or look through our introduction guide to talk pages. If you find the page history confusing, there's info about that here. Again, sorry you've had such a rough time so far, and I hope your experience editing improves from here on. Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}} talk 03:44, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
I've done all three moves per your request. I didn't leave a redirect at Help:Introduction to navigating Wikipedia/history as I wasn't clear on your intentions, and obviously couldn't do the page protection (apologies). Let me know if there's anything else I can help with. Thanks, --Jack Frost (talk) 02:18, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Jack Frost: No redirect from /history is fine; thanks for the quick help moving them! {{u|Sdkb}} talk 02:23, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
Nomination for deletion of Template:Reader-facing page
Template:Reader-facing page has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Spicy (talk) 00:01, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
Short descriptions for good article status
I think I may be interested in this task. SVcode(Talk) 15:22, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
- @SVcode awesome! Let me know how it goes. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 21:51, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Sdkb I got someone else to work with me, so is that okay? SVcode(Talk) 14:58, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
Question from Jahidul Haque Tuhin (00:30, 16 June 2021)
I can't find my information when i search my Name in Google. I complete my user page already... Suggested me a solutions Thank You 💓 --Jahidul Haque Tuhin (talk) 00:30, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Jahidul Haque Tuhin: User pages are not indexed by search engines. It's a bad idea to write about yourself. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 01:00, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
Question from Jahidul Haque Tuhin (01:05, 16 June 2021)
How to find My article in search engine? I'm already post a article but when i search it on Google, i can't find it? Why? How many time takes to post a article? --Jahidul Haque Tuhin (talk) 01:05, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Jahidul Haque Tuhin see my reply above. Read WP:SEI if you really want. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 01:17, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
Further talk header cleanups
Hi Sdkb! I was motivated by your nomination for merging the AAN template with the talk header one, as well as the discussion above. I am interested in getting a discussion going to merge a whole bunch of history templates into {{Article history}}. Many of these templates listed are already covered by Article history, but it would be best if all or most of those were deprecated in favor of Article history. As many of these templates are also used in other namespaces, it may be necessary to rename it to something like {{Page history}}.
List of just some of the templates that have the possibility of being merged:
- Deletions (Old XfD multi, Old CfD, Old MfD, Old prod, Old RfD, Old TfD, Oldcsd, Oldcsdfull, Olddelrev, Oldffdfull)
- Merges (Afd-merged-from, Afd-merge to, Afd-merge from multi, Afd-merge from, Merged-from, Merged-to, Mfd-merge from, Mfd-merge to, Old merge)
- GA/FA/etc (FARpassed, FailedGA, GA)
- Moves (Old moves)
- Peer-reviews (Old peer review, Oldportalpeerreview)
- Uncountable edit drive templates
- Miscellaneous (Oldpuffull, On this day, Published, Stable version)
These are just a handful of templates I've picked out. The main arguments to merge are because of banner blindness and to provide a clearer historical timeline of that page, template, or category.
Do you think you could help develop this discussion or co-nominate it? Many of these templates are template-protected, so I would need an admin or template editor to add merge templates to them. SWinxy (talk) 22:39, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
- Hi SWinxy! I'm glad to see efforts in this area continuing! There are a few questions that come to mind: Should these nominations be done separately or all together? Should we seek consensus first, or first make a bot and then seek consensus to operate it (having a ready bot might make consensus easier, but there's risk of wasted effort if it's rejected)? For the article history stuff, my intuition is that the best path is to build bots that handle these things, and only try to deprecate the old templates once we've managed to get them out of use. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 22:59, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
- Irrc, the FAC/FLC bot converts existing milestones to article history when they're promoted (or not?). I wonder if we could get the same thing going for the GA/DYK/OTD etc. bots. I must also add my appreciation for SWinxy in continuing this endeavor! Aza24 (talk) 23:02, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you! No clue about the existing bot situation. iirc the GA process is partially automated, and we'd need to change the bot(s) that adds the deprecating templates, as well as discuss with the GA/DYK/... teams. But for already existing uses we might have to build our own bot to move them. SWinxy (talk) 01:24, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
- I think that we could nominate them in two batches: the first being the ones that already have parity in {{Article history}}, and ones that have not, and—if there is support for it—split them down further to merge in batches by type (e.g. first deletions, then FA/GA, etc). For the process of deleting, I suggest first moving the transclusions over, then once that's done, mark the templates as deprecated. Then, wait a few weeks to see if any more discussions pop up or to see if some bots' owners need to be notified, and, if not, mark them as deprecated for removal. Then, delete if we feel that it has been a reasonable amount of time. I don't think turning them into redirects is a good idea. Doesn't feel clean.
- As for the bot, eh? I dunno. There was more pushback than I would have expected with the auto archiving notice (feels weird that it only closed less than two weeks ago), but then again making a bot before the discussion would give credence to our determination or something, just to show that we've thought this through thoroughly. I've not made a bot before, and I expect some things we'll need to do manually if any of the templates were used weirdly. SWinxy (talk) 01:15, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
- Also @Sdkb:, do you have plans to move the sandboxed version of the talk header to the main template? The auto archiving notice can't really be moved until the archive parameters have been added. SWinxy (talk) 19:46, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
- @SWinxy, it's in process at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Holding cell. I'm generally not too involved there, but it'll get done in a few weeks or so. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 19:49, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
- Irrc, the FAC/FLC bot converts existing milestones to article history when they're promoted (or not?). I wonder if we could get the same thing going for the GA/DYK/OTD etc. bots. I must also add my appreciation for SWinxy in continuing this endeavor! Aza24 (talk) 23:02, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
Question from The Unknown 0012 (08:58, 20 June 2021)
Hi, Sdkb! I hope you are well. Just wanted to ask you how to write a good article? I hope I’m not wasting your time! Just ping me back any time. --The Unknown 0012 (talk) 08:58, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
- @The Unknown 0012: It's no trouble at all! See Help:Your first article for basic tips on creating a new page, Help:Introduction for general editing tips/instructions, or Wikipedia:Article development for advice on improving existing pages. Keep in mind that creating new pages from scratch is a difficult task, and you might want to try some other things first to get your feet wet. Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}} talk 16:47, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
SdkbBot edit summary
Hi, I just noticed this edit by SdkbBot. If AWB genfixes are being bundled with the edit, it will be helpful to indicate it in the edit summary. Otherwise it can be misleading about what the bot is actually doing when seeing diffs like this. Thanks. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 08:59, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
- @ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ: That's a good thought. I had left it out since not all edits the bot makes will involve GENFIXes and I didn't want the false positives, but I think you're right that the false negatives are the bigger concern. I'll adjust the summary for future edits. Maybe at some point it'll be possible to differentiate it based on whether or not it does a GENFIX. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 16:44, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
Nomination of Debra Cleaver for deletion
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The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Debra Cleaver until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.
Mccapra (talk) 20:28, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
Disambiguation link notification for June 24
An automated process has detected that when you recently edited Presidency of Donald Trump, you added links pointing to the disambiguation pages David Holmes and Fiona Hill.
(Opt-out instructions.) --DPL bot (talk) 06:04, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
45th president of the United States
I wouldn't object so much, if you'd chose another place in the Donald Trump article, to link to Presidency of Donald Trump. GoodDay (talk) 17:26, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
- @GoodDay: Linking in another place would defeat the goal of having as prominent a link as possible to the article probably most relevant to the majority of people who visit Trump's article. The RfC at this point is just waiting for a close, and both sides have made pretty much all the arguments we're going to make, so I hope we can just let it sit and work on something else until that happens. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 17:33, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
Happy First Edit Day!
Your GA nomination of Pomona College
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Pomona College you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of HAL333 -- HAL333 (talk) 01:20, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
Government of Rhodesia
Sorry to disturb you in Independence Day. I’m a historian and not too experienced with Wikipedia. Added quite important facts about the Rhodesian people after 1980 and about the Government of Rhodesia. All under heavy fire as if the bush wars would have never ended… The users just clicked on the most convenient (and least important) links (now deleted because not essential) and started a campaign to return to the version of history which is political, not scientific. Could you have a look, please? Thank you, University Professor for History (talk) 14:09, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
- @OnSpeech, for controversial topics, Wikipedia operates under a consensus model. I'd recommend that you discuss the issue with the other editors on the article's talk page (see our intro to talk pages) and calmly present your sources and explain why they support your edits. Let me know if you have any questions. Government of Rhodesia was deleted as a suspected hoax following this discussion. Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}} talk 03:03, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
Question from Volunteer Centre KC (09:01, 5 July 2021)
Hi, I want to /edit/change my user name but I can't see anywhere where I can do this. Can you help? --Volunteer Centre KC (talk) 09:01, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
- Hi @Volunteer Centre KC! There's information at Wikipedia:Changing username. Given that you don't yet have any history under your current username, the easier path is probably just to log out and create a new account under the name you want. Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}} talk 09:03, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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The Tireless Contributor Barnstar |
You are very hardworking. Keep it up! V. E. (talk) 18:20, 5 July 2021 (UTC) |
Thanks, Visnelma! Is there a particular edit of mine that you saw that prompted this? {{u|Sdkb}} talk 18:28, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
- No, I am just randomly sending love messages to other Wikipedians to motivate them. Best regards.--V. E. (talk) 18:30, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
SNOW close
Hi Sdkb, I am not trying to start a fight or continue an argument here, but I noticed your WP:SNOW close on Wikipedia talk:No personal attacks#Adding spirituality as a group of people that shouldn't be targeted by personal attacks and just wanted to point out WP:SNOW#A cautionary note, which I feel is borderline relevant here -- two days is not really that long for less-active editors to get involved and it's not clear that their views are going to be aligned with those of very-active editors. It is true that the discussion so far was very one-sided though, so I am not disagreeing with your close, but maybe just a suggestion that it probably wouldn't hurt to leave things like this open for another day or two.... CapitalSasha ~ talk 19:15, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for the polite note, Sasha. I do realize I closed that discussion after a fairly short window. The standard I try to use is whether or not I could envision any possible way of the discussion turning around and reaching a different result, and for that discussion I just couldn't. The invitation at WP:VPP meant that at least some of the !voters were not watchers of that particular talk page, and the nature of the proposal was simple enough that there wasn't really room to tweak it or for understanding of it to evolve. The tradeoff is always between trying to save editor energy from discussing something that won't pass and the possibility that continued discussion will be of some benefit. In this case, I made the call that a SNOW close was warranted. That said, there is never any prohibition against post-close comments, so if you want to make one, you're welcome to do so. I also won't object if other editors feel that the discussion ought to be reopened. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 19:37, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for taking the time to explain your reasoning, of course I respect your judgment on that. Best wishes, CapitalSasha ~ talk 20:11, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
Articles for Creation July 2021 Backlog Elimination Drive
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The goal of this drive is to eliminate the backlog of unreviewed articles. The drive is running until 31 July 2021.
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Your GA nomination of Pomona College
The article Pomona College you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Pomona College for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of HAL333 -- HAL333 (talk) 01:22, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
Mero Daily •Breaking News•
In the present life of Ali Ayaz (who is also known as Mero), Constantly keeps growing on specific platforms and gains huge amount of appreciation, and love.Other then this ,Ali Ayaz got verified on the platform “TikTok” a week ago, which hooked the interest of bug campaigns.Ali Ayaz gained huge attention, in which the campaign audiences viewed Ali Ayaz’s social, and popular platforms. The popular campaign ended up deciding to send Ali Ayaz an email which was a request from the company, this request presented Ali Ayaz a different opportunity and way of growing.After analyzing the looks, behavioral actions and actions of Ali Ayaz, the campaign decided to send Ali Ayaz a formal request, which is optional.The company requested Ali Ayaz to perform and step on the stage as a Model, The company itself is still waiting an answer from Ali Ayaz. Mero Daily News (talk) 18:48, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
- Hi @Mero Daily News—I don't understand your comment. Do you have a question? If you are hoping to create an article on Ayaz, please see Help:Your first article. Please note that you will have to change your username, as we don't allow accounts with organization names. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 19:55, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
COVID-19 pandemic data
Hi. I do not know if there are more editors who will be willing to update this template. In recent months, it has already become more challenging to edit the template. Will it be possible to use Wikidata for several countries? I am aware that this bot updates some relevant pages, but it does so more than one day after new figures are released. However, using the bot is now more preferable because it reduces the need for editors to open a lot of sources several times every day. LSGH (talk) (contributions) 11:26, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
- Hi @LSGH! The fact that COVID-19 data has been decentralized rather than consolidated into a centralized venue was an ongoing source of frustration for me until I eventually just gave up. At that time, Wikidata wasn't really being the centralized venue it ought to have been, which was creating problems when we tried to source from it, as @Naypta and I did for per capita data (some discussion about that is here; he stopped editing pretty suddenly last August, so I hope he's alright). I haven't been following since then, so perhaps the bot you link has improved the situation. Overall, if you want to dive into that area, best of luck, but I'm unfortunately too burnt out to be of much assistance. Eventually the pandemic will end and we'll stop having to constantly update the numbers. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 03:33, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, we do hope that the pandemic will end soon. I also need to deal with other problems in real life. I checked some of the related Wikidata pages, and it appears that only a few of those pages are being constantly updated manually by some active editors. As far as I know, the template contains fetch codes for India and Indonesia only. It's difficult to do a lot of manual updates every day, and some countries release figures irregularly. Is it okay if more fetch codes will be placed in the template even if several of those Wikidata pages are not updated manually? LSGH (talk) (contributions) 14:19, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
- @LSGH, you'd have to discuss and see what the consensus is. I know @RayDeeUx was active in the area a while back, but I'm not sure who's there nowadays. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 15:22, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
- I already asked an editor who used to edit the template several times every day, but he has not replied yet. If using Wikidata will not be possible and other people cannot help, then what else can be done so that editors can edit the template less often? LSGH (talk) (contributions) 07:43, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
- @LSGH, you'd have to discuss and see what the consensus is. I know @RayDeeUx was active in the area a while back, but I'm not sure who's there nowadays. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 15:22, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, we do hope that the pandemic will end soon. I also need to deal with other problems in real life. I checked some of the related Wikidata pages, and it appears that only a few of those pages are being constantly updated manually by some active editors. As far as I know, the template contains fetch codes for India and Indonesia only. It's difficult to do a lot of manual updates every day, and some countries release figures irregularly. Is it okay if more fetch codes will be placed in the template even if several of those Wikidata pages are not updated manually? LSGH (talk) (contributions) 14:19, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
DYK for Unearthed (publication)
— Amakuru (talk) 12:02, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
Wikidata issue
Hi, I did see you are editing on wikidata so maybe you could help me with a problem I have.
I have asked here but not yet received an answer.
This file Huaynaputina tephra fallout under Structured data/Wikimedia username, as an example.
I'm adding "Wikimedia username:" to my works here. I then get a "!" where it's stated "citation needed constraint" and that I need to add a reference.
I have read and tried numerous variations of https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Goran_tek-en but no one has been accepted.
What am I supposed to put there? --always ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 13:45, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
- @Goran tek-en, hmm, interesting. What seems to be happening here is that statements on Wikidata generally allow references, but that functionality hasn't been imported for the use of Wikidata for structured data on Commons, as most things added there wouldn't need a reference. Because of that, there doesn't seem to be a way to get the exclamation mark to go away.
- My suggestion would be not to try to add your username to the structured data in the first place. It's technically incorrect, as Wikimedia username (P4174) is for people, not for images; the image itself doesn't have a username. You'll still be recorded as the uploader on the main file page, and if that information is ever transferred to structured data, it'll likely be imported automatically. I hope that helps! Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}} talk 03:46, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for explaining although I didn't fully understood all of it.
- You say not to add Wikimedia username, but my problem is that a bot is doing this in this way (with out exclamation mark) and in doing so it adds an incorrect creator with Wikimedia username so I have to correct it. This is due to that I have stated
|author=[[User:Goran tek-en|Goran_tek-en]], requested by and knowledge from {{U|x}}
in the information Template so the bot takes the last username and add it as creator, this is what I'm correcting now. Also I have now changed the way how I staterequested by and knowledge from {{U|x}}
to avoid this problem. - I understood it as this was the Wikimedia username of the creator, but you say it's not. So then the bot is also doing something which is wrong, that is serious as it affects many images.
- If this is not the name of the creator I don't understand how it can be added by the bot under "creator/". This is so complicated and hard to grasp. --always ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 10:42, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
- Here you can see what SchlurcherBot is adding regarding name etc, here.I will also contact the user for that bot. --always ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 11:03, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
- @Goran tek-en, so the bot appears to be working correctly as far as recording the data in the proper format. It's adding Wikimedia username as a qualifier to creator (P170), which is the correct way to do it: the image doesn't have a username, but the creator of the image (i.e. you; it records it as "some value" since it doesn't know of a Wikidata item for you as a person) does.
- Adding the wrong username is definitely an issue, though. I'd definitely reach out to the bot operator, as they're expected to be communicative about that sort of issue. They also probably know more about structured data than I do. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 15:32, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
- You say not to add Wikimedia username, but my problem is that a bot is doing this in this way (with out exclamation mark) and in doing so it adds an incorrect creator with Wikimedia username so I have to correct it. This is due to that I have stated
- Thanks for explaining although I didn't fully understood all of it.
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DYK for Debra Cleaver
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
UserTalkArchiveBox
Hello, I noticed that you have been active in the archive template area (With your TfD of {{Auto archiving notice}}) and thought I should notify you that I have TfD'd {{UserTalkArchiveBox}} for merge with {{Archives}} here. Terasail[✉️] 13:08, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
a barnstar for you!
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For your tireless contributions to Wikipedia. 1RingFB (talk) 02:38, 22 July 2021 (UTC) |
- Thanks, 1RingFB! Is there a particular edit of mine you saw that prompted this? {{u|Sdkb}} talk 02:42, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
Question from TravelerEditorRealChanger on List of killings by law enforcement officers in the United States, June 2021 (13:23, 27 July 2021)
Please help me find the video editor. I used it earlier today. I am surprised to find my edit from earlier today is now replaced by someone else. I have not prepared another edit yet, but after 10 edits and 4 days, I can edit the criticism in the Blue Lives Matter article. --TravelerEditorRealChanger (talk) 13:23, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
- Hi @TravelerEditorRealChanger! I'm not sure what you mean by the video editor; I'm not aware of Wikipedia having any in-house video editor. Regarding your edit, it looks like you did a good job including a reference and it does not appear anyone else has reverted it. Let me know if you need any further help. Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}} talk 18:41, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
Question from TravelerEditorRealChanger (21:53, 27 July 2021)
Hi thanks for mentoring. I meant to ask how to find the visual editor I used earlier today not the video editor. Text editors show us hand code, maybe, but visual editors allow us to type as if in a word processor. Difficult to see how to reply to your answer, too. --TravelerEditorRealChanger (talk) 21:54, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
- @TravelerEditorRealChanger: Oh, VisualEditor! Yes, to enable that, just change your preferences as shown here. Feel free to let me know if you have any trouble. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 22:09, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
Question from TravelerEditorRealChanger (22:18, 27 July 2021)
Thanks. That is a good way to find that visual editor. I also used my settings to choose it by default when possible. I think it is beta, but I like it. By the way, I never wrote those sentences using reference 11. I used that reference with one shorter sentence that is now gone, but no complaints. Curious about who changed it. Added another sentence just now with citation [12]. --TravelerEditorRealChanger (talk) 22:18, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
- @TravelerEditorRealChanger, you can view the page's history here; page histories can be complicated, but there's a quick intro here. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 22:22, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
Question from TravelerEditorRealChanger on User talk:TravelerEditorRealChanger (00:22, 30 July 2021)
Hi, please note: on the article [2] I added a sentence and the editor removed it with the comment "unnecessary". The email says I can contact the editor (Magnolia677) with a provided email link or a provided wiki link. Trying the email link gets me a note saying the editor does not accept email. I see no way to use the wiki link to contact the editor. I am OK with the change, but for that same month, other entries show talk about "investigation" (6/27) and camera recordings (6/28). My sentence presented information about those two things in the case of the incident of June 10, 2021. --TravelerEditorRealChanger (talk) 00:22, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
- @TravelerEditorRealChanger: if you want to contact that user, you can do so on their talk page, but I'd recommend taking a discussion about an article to that article's talkpage where others are likely to chime in - you can make a new section on Talk:List of killings by law enforcement officers in the United States, June 2021 to discuss it. Elli (talk | contribs) 00:29, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
DYK for Pomona College
— Maile (talk) 12:03, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
FLC review request
Hi @Sdkb – It would be a great help if you could review the list "United States presidential elections in Arkansas", and provide me with few comments on its FLC page. Thanks! – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 07:01, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
- Hi @Kavyansh.Singh! I remedied the lack of a short description. Is there a particular reason you reached out to me? {{u|Sdkb}} talk 07:13, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
- Sdkb – Not any particular reason; just saw you reviewing other lists at FLC. Thanks for adding short description. – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 08:33, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
- Got it. I can't make any guarantees, as there's a long queue of articles at FLC and all of us reviewing are of course just volunteers, but if I get a chance to do more, I'll stop by. Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}} talk 18:03, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
- Sdkb – Not any particular reason; just saw you reviewing other lists at FLC. Thanks for adding short description. – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 08:33, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
Università Cattolica del Sacro Cuore
Hi, just a little query. You changed staff to administrative staff, but the number shown are not all administrative staff. The number includes lecturers, tutors and professors. Can you explain the change? Thanks Denisarona (talk) 08:34, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Denisarona! The parameter has been displaying as "administrative staff" for many years, even though it appeared in the wikitext on that page using the alias of "staff". Recently, concerns have been raised about the impreciseness of who is included in "administrative staff", so we're going to add a new variable for
|total_staff=
, which we'll encourage as an alternative. In preparation for that, I'm working on deprecating the alias|staff=
to prevent confusion. The edit I made at Università Cattolica del Sacro Cuore and other pages changed the wikitext but not the display, so if the information is incorrect, that means either that someone misused the parameter when they added it to the page or that past maintainers of the template inappropriately changed it without updating the affected pages. I hope that helps explain, and please let know if you have additional questions. Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}} talk 09:04, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
I'm totally in agreement with using Total staff. Hope it succeeds. Denisarona (talk) 09:06, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
Questions from ABLHACKER on Phishing (07:38, 12 August 2021)
HLW --ABLHACKER (talk) 07:38, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
Hello --ABLHACKER (talk) 07:38, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
RSN
Sdkb, do you really feel that the community needs to weigh in on the papers of record? At first glance, it seems you are just making a point. Firefangledfeathers (talk) 18:10, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Firefangledfeathers, as I noted at the top of the Australian discussion, I'm working on improving the {{Find sources}} module, which currently only includes The New York Times, and has (justifiably imo) drawn complaints that for most non-U.S. articles, that isn't the most appropriate publication of record. The publications of record that we choose for the module will be shown on thousands of talk pages, so I feel that it's important that there is firm community consensus behind their reliability, namely an RSP-greenlisting. That's why I've opened the discussions. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 18:14, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks! Just so you know, you're swimming upstream a bit at that noticeboard. Regulars are often exasperated when editors bring up sources that aren't involved in a specific dispute. Firefangledfeathers (talk) 18:40, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
- Yeah, I'm definitely getting a strong impression of that haha. I hope that the meta discussion doesn't end up distracting too much from the actual discussion, but if others continue to complain, I might have to reset. I was a little oblique in how I talked about the project, which was since it's still at an early technical stage and I want to save the bigger discussion for once it's ready to deploy, but perhaps that was an error. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 18:59, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
- I'm guessing the intention is to have a parameter for the location which will then put in a search link at that location's paper of record? Firefangledfeathers (talk) 19:11, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
- The current approach is to use the Wikidata item for an article to automatically determine which country it's in, and then choose based on that. {{Talk header}} has more than 500,000 transclusions, a significant percentage of which have associated countries, thus why I'd like to affirm consensus for each of the publications used in the prototype and why we'll be seeking consensus for the selection overall before anything goes live. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 19:24, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
- Cool stuff. It's on my watchlist and I'll look out for ways to help. Firefangledfeathers (talk) 19:32, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
- The current approach is to use the Wikidata item for an article to automatically determine which country it's in, and then choose based on that. {{Talk header}} has more than 500,000 transclusions, a significant percentage of which have associated countries, thus why I'd like to affirm consensus for each of the publications used in the prototype and why we'll be seeking consensus for the selection overall before anything goes live. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 19:24, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
- I'm guessing the intention is to have a parameter for the location which will then put in a search link at that location's paper of record? Firefangledfeathers (talk) 19:11, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
- Yeah, I'm definitely getting a strong impression of that haha. I hope that the meta discussion doesn't end up distracting too much from the actual discussion, but if others continue to complain, I might have to reset. I was a little oblique in how I talked about the project, which was since it's still at an early technical stage and I want to save the bigger discussion for once it's ready to deploy, but perhaps that was an error. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 18:59, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks! Just so you know, you're swimming upstream a bit at that noticeboard. Regulars are often exasperated when editors bring up sources that aren't involved in a specific dispute. Firefangledfeathers (talk) 18:40, 12 August 2021 (UTC)