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Count of DYK Hooks | ||
Section | # of Hooks | # Verified |
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May 23 | 1 | 1 |
June 13 | 1 | |
June 21 | 1 | |
June 22 | 1 | |
July 1 | 1 | |
July 2 | 1 | |
July 6 | 1 | |
July 11 | 1 | |
July 12 | 2 | |
July 13 | 2 | |
July 14 | 1 | |
July 15 | 2 | |
July 16 | 1 | |
July 17 | 2 | |
July 21 | 1 | |
July 22 | 1 | 1 |
July 24 | 1 | |
July 26 | 2 | 2 |
July 27 | 1 | |
July 28 | 1 | 1 |
July 29 | 4 | 3 |
July 30 | 8 | 6 |
August 1 | 3 | 2 |
August 2 | 2 | 1 |
August 3 | 2 | 1 |
August 4 | 4 | 1 |
August 5 | 3 | 2 |
August 6 | 4 | 1 |
August 7 | 6 | 4 |
August 8 | 5 | 1 |
August 9 | 4 | 3 |
August 10 | 5 | 4 |
August 11 | 5 | 4 |
August 12 | 8 | 6 |
August 13 | 10 | 7 |
August 14 | 7 | 5 |
August 15 | 8 | 4 |
August 16 | 6 | 2 |
August 17 | 7 | 4 |
August 18 | 11 | 5 |
August 19 | 8 | 4 |
August 20 | 6 | 2 |
August 21 | 7 | 3 |
August 22 | 3 | 1 |
August 23 | 12 | 2 |
August 24 | 4 | 1 |
Total | 177 | 84 |
Last updated 11:38, 24 August 2021 UTC Current time is 11:41, 24 August 2021 UTC [refresh] |
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Instructions for other editors
How to promote an accepted hook
- See Wikipedia:Did you know/Preparation areas for full instructions. Note that there are discussions currently under way for changing this process; if any changes are made, these instructions will be revised as necessary.
- In one window, open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to promote.
- In another window, open the prep set you intend to add the hook to.
- In the prep set...
- Paste the hook into the hook area (be sure to not paste in that that)
- Paste the credit information ({{DYKmake}} and/or {{DYKnom}}) into the credits area.
- Add an edit summary, e.g., "Promoted [[Jane Fonda]]", preview, and save
- Back on DYK nomination page...
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- Add an edit summary, e.g., "Promoted original hook to Prep 3", preview, and save
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How to remove a hook from the prep areas or queue
- Edit the prep area or queue where the hook is and remove the hook and the credits associated with it.
- Go to the hook's nomination subpage (there should have been a link to it in the credits section).
- View the edit history for that page
- Go back to the last version before the edit where the hook was promoted, and revert to that version to make the nomination active again.
- Add a new icon on the nomination subpage to cancel the previous tick and leave a comment after it explaining that the hook was removed from the prep area or queue, and why, so that later reviewers are aware of this issue.
- Add a transclusion of the template back to the nominations page so that reviewers can see it. It goes under the date that it was first created/expanded/listed as a GA. You may need to add back the day header for that date if it had been removed from the nominations page.
- If you removed the hook from a queue, it is best to either replace it with another hook from one of the prep areas, or to leave a message at WT:DYK asking someone else to do so.
Nominations
Approved nominations
Articles created/expanded on May 23
Marie Antoinette with a Rose
... that the previous portrait that illustrates Marie Antoinette wearing a muslin dress before Marie Antoinette with a Rose (pictured) was painted, is the subject's favourite dress?Source: "Vigée-Le Brun presented notably a new portrait of the Queen wearing the “gaulle” or “blouse dress”. Adapted to Parisian fashion by the dressmaker Rose Bertin, this muslin dress was the Queen’s favourite one during her stays at the Petit Trianon, away from the court. The visitors of the Salon were shocked by this portrait: in their view the Queen was not dressed as befitted her rank. So the painting was quickly withdrawn. Vigée-Le Brun then quickly painted a second portrait to be exhibited before the end of the Salon." Google Arts & Culture
- Reviewed: Theodolinda Hahnsson
Created by JeBonSer (talk). Self-nominated at 01:35, 24 May 2021 (UTC).
- Length (just barely) and reference verified ... however:
- How sure are we that Google Arts & Culture is an RS? Mightn't we be better with the original text from Versailles if it's available, or from a reputable art site or book?
- I think the body text should be rewritten a little more so it doesn't use so much of the same phrasing as the Google page. It passed a copyvio check, but still ...
- And frankly, this hook would be better off for an article about that previous painting. Or rewritten to be more about this one. As it is it's like we had an article about a building and a hook about the one next door to it.
- Daniel Case (talk) 23:47, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
- ALT1:... that Marie Antoinette with a Rose (pictured) is a substitute portrait for the unsuccessful previous portrait painted by Élisabeth Vigée Le Brun during the Salon exhibition? Source: Google Arts & Culture JeBonSer (talk | sign) 14:47, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
- OK, that takes care of the third issue I had, but not the other two. Daniel Case (talk) 17:52, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
- Pointing out that JeBonSer's talk page shows five DYK credits; a QPQ will be required. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:03, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
- To clarify, the submitted QPQ review was previously used on Template:Did you know nominations/Portrait of Madame Jacques-Louis Leblanc, which was promoted to the main page on June 9. As a QPQ may only be used once, the one here cannot be reused and a new QPQ review will need to be performed. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:49, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Daniel Case: Older reference was now replaced with the original reference from the Palace of Versailles with additional new references from other sites and a new QPQ was provided. JeBonSer (talk | sign) 16:39, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
- @JeBonSer: OK, but per BlueMoonset above you still need to do another QPQ and post the link here. Daniel Case (talk) 17:48, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
- @Daniel Case: QPQ: From St. George's Basilica, Prague to Theodolinda Hahnsson. The current provided QPQ is not still used. See the difference of my edit here. JeBonSer (talk | sign) 18:04, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
- JeBonSer, even though you have officially changed the references, the actual prose is still unchanged, which means Daniel Case's point about needing to deal with the overly close paraphrasing from the Google source—putting the material in your own words while remaining accurate—still has to be done. Close paraphrasing is a very serious matter. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:55, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
- @BlueMoonset: Daniel Case, I have already rewritten the article and the information is still intact and accurate. The problems are all resolved now. JeBonSer (talk | sign) 08:47, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
- JeBonSer, even though you have officially changed the references, the actual prose is still unchanged, which means Daniel Case's point about needing to deal with the overly close paraphrasing from the Google source—putting the material in your own words while remaining accurate—still has to be done. Close paraphrasing is a very serious matter. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:55, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
- @Daniel Case: QPQ: From St. George's Basilica, Prague to Theodolinda Hahnsson. The current provided QPQ is not still used. See the difference of my edit here. JeBonSer (talk | sign) 18:04, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
- @JeBonSer: OK, but per BlueMoonset above you still need to do another QPQ and post the link here. Daniel Case (talk) 17:48, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
Well, Earwig finds one huge copyvio, but that's someone quoting this page, and the rest are good. But move that other picture down and right-justify it because otherwise it's an awful-looking violation of MOS:SANDWICH. And I want to know what @BlueMoonset: thinks. Daniel Case (talk) 03:28, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
- Daniel Case, JeBonSer, the article currently fails the length requirement; it has 1401 prose characters after some needed copyedits, below DYK's minimum of 1500 prose characters. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:45, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
- BlueMoonset, Daniel Case, the article is eligible now because I add some phrase on it and the prose character now is exceeding 1500. JeBonSer (talk | sign) 18:38, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
- JeBonSer, I have no idea what the newly added sentence is trying to say. You need to be clear in your writing, if you wish the expansion to be accepted. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:29, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
- @BlueMoonset: The new sentence has now been cleared. JeBonSer (talk | sign) 03:42, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
- JeBonSer, it is not clear, and it's troubling that you think it is. I'm going to ping Surtsicna and Johnbod, both of whom have done cleanup edits on earlier versions of this article, to see whether they can help. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:38, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
- Done, I hope. I haven't done a recount! Johnbod (talk) 19:39, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks, Johnbod. The article still exceeds 1500 prose characters. Daniel Case, up to you to decide whether this meets the DYK criteria. Thank you. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:11, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
- Done, I hope. I haven't done a recount! Johnbod (talk) 19:39, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
- JeBonSer, it is not clear, and it's troubling that you think it is. I'm going to ping Surtsicna and Johnbod, both of whom have done cleanup edits on earlier versions of this article, to see whether they can help. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:38, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
- @BlueMoonset: The new sentence has now been cleared. JeBonSer (talk | sign) 03:42, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
- JeBonSer, I have no idea what the newly added sentence is trying to say. You need to be clear in your writing, if you wish the expansion to be accepted. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:29, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
- BlueMoonset, Daniel Case, the article is eligible now because I add some phrase on it and the prose character now is exceeding 1500. JeBonSer (talk | sign) 18:38, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
@Daniel Case: how we lookin'? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 07:50, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
- OK, good now. Daniel Case (talk) 19:55, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on July 22
Claus Guth
... that Claus Guth (pictured), recognised internationally when he directed the premiere of Cronaca del luogo at the Salzburg Festival, staged Dialogues des Carmélites in 2021 in Frankfurt?Source: several
- Reviewed: Kokawa-dera Engi Emaki
- Comment: If the Poulenc gets mentioned for the conductor we can turn to the Faust award, but it is in danger. - Sorry, I should have nominated yesterday but had a very busy day.
Created by LouisAlain (talk), Grimes2 (talk), and Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 09:43, 30 July 2021 (UTC).
- ALT1:
... that Claus Guth (pictured), recognised internationally when he directed the 1999 premiere of Berio's Cronaca del luogo at the Salzburg Festival, has been awarded later two Der Faust?Grimes2 (talk) 13:07, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you for the offer, but I believe that it would be better to link to an opera than the award, and also that Der Faust is not as well known as the Grammies. Anyway, if that line, perhaps:
- ALT1a:
... that Claus Guth (pictured), recognised internationally since he directed the 1999 premiere of Berio's Cronaca del luogo at the Salzburg Festival, later received two Faust awards?--Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:30, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
- ALT1:
- Article meets requirements, no close paraphrasing found, QPQ done. ALT1a is okay but the phrasing is a bit strange, particularly the "recognised internationally since he directed the 1999 premiere" wording. Perhaps that part could be rephrased to something like "recognized internationally for..." or wording to that effect? The hook fact itself is fine, the wording just needs to be fixed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:09, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
- ALT1b: ... that Claus Guth (pictured), recognised internationally for directing the 1999 premiere of Berio's Cronaca del luogo at the Salzburg Festival, later received two Faust awards? Grimes2 (talk) 08:14, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
- Okay, we are almost good to go. ALT1b is tentatively approved, the only remaining issues with the article are that the paragraph that starts with "Interested in the works by Richard Strauss" does not have a footnote, and that him receiving two Faust awards is not explicitly mentioned in the prose: I'd suggest adding it to the article somewhere with references, as opposed to just the Awards section. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:20, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
- Done Grimes2 (talk) 08:28, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you for the edit; however, the "He received two Faust awards." phrase is still missing a footnote. The nom will be approved once that is resolved. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:15, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
- Resolved. Grimes2 (talk) 09:20, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you. ALT1b is good to go. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:21, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
- Resolved. Grimes2 (talk) 09:20, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you for the edit; however, the "He received two Faust awards." phrase is still missing a footnote. The nom will be approved once that is resolved. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:15, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
- Done Grimes2 (talk) 08:28, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
- Okay, we are almost good to go. ALT1b is tentatively approved, the only remaining issues with the article are that the paragraph that starts with "Interested in the works by Richard Strauss" does not have a footnote, and that him receiving two Faust awards is not explicitly mentioned in the prose: I'd suggest adding it to the article somewhere with references, as opposed to just the Awards section. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:20, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
- ALT1b: ... that Claus Guth (pictured), recognised internationally for directing the 1999 premiere of Berio's Cronaca del luogo at the Salzburg Festival, later received two Faust awards? Grimes2 (talk) 08:14, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on July 26
Baalshillem II
- ... that the coins issued by Baalshillem II, the Phoenician king of Sidon, were the first Sidonian coins to bear minting dates corresponding to the king's year of reign? Source: Elayi 2006, p.9
- ALT1:... that Baalshillem II was the first king of Sidon to engrave his coins with minting dates corresponding to his regnal year? Source: Elayi 2006, p.9
- ALT2:... that Baalshillem II, the Phoenician king of Sidon, dedicated an inscribed marble statue of crown prince Abdashtart I to the temple of Eshmun? Source: Elayi 2018, p.249
- ALT3:... that the inscriptions on the Baalshillem Temple Boy statue, dedicated by Phoenician king Baalshillem II to the temple of Eshmun, allowed scholars to identify three of the king's predecessors? Source: Elayi 2018, p.249
- Comment: qpq done
Created by Elias Ziade (talk). Self-nominated at 11:10, 26 July 2021 (UTC).
- This is a copyright violation. Earwig's copyvio detector shows a contiguous block of about 390 words in an exact copy/paste of http://www.digitorient.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/2Updated%20Chronology1.pdf , together with the phrase justifying the hook,
in Antiquity, based on the years of reign of the Sidonian kings
. And this is the source used for the hook! For a user claiming 14 years of experience in Wikipedia, this is difficult to understand. You cannot start with copyrighted material, modify it, and then claim that the new version has changed sufficiently that it is no longer a copyright violation.The particular copy/paste for the hook shows, once again, the reason why plagiarism is a bad idea: dropping the comma from the source makes the phrase ambiguous - without the comma, it's unclear if this is claimed to be the first event of dated coins in "Antiquity", or the first coins whose dates were based on the reigns of Sidonian kings. And why say "Antiquity"? If there were no earlier known dated coins, why not just make the simpler (stronger) claim that they were the first known coins to be dated? Is this a reference to ancient Western civilisations only? Do we know which of the three Wikipedia Antiquity#Eras definitions are being referred to?
- The first coin bearing what could be interpreted as minting date was from Sicily; it was struck almost a century earlier. Current documentation only proves that said king was the first among the Sidonian kings to include the minting date. This is why I left out the "antiquity" part as Elayi clearly specifies that Baalshillem's were the first coins to bear dates based on the regnal years of the Kings of Sidon. el.ziade (talkallam) 08:06, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
- This is a copyright violation. Earwig's copyvio detector shows a contiguous block of about 390 words in an exact copy/paste of http://www.digitorient.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/2Updated%20Chronology1.pdf , together with the phrase justifying the hook,
@Elias Ziade: Since you are an experienced user, I'll leave it to you to ask for the article to be deleted and to recreate it as a fresh article. I didn't check if the 390-word section remained after edits, but it's part of the edit history, so it and any other copyright violations, such as in antiquity based on the years of reign of the Sidonian kings
, have to be deleted from the edit history unless the article is deleted in full and recreated fresh, it seems to me. Deletion and creation of a fresh article would reduce the amount of work required by copyvio volunteers ("clerks"). Boud (talk) 02:10, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
- Boud This is a major mishap! I am on it, please bear with me. el.ziade (talkallam) 06:38, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
- The article was deleted and re-published. Thank you for bringing this to my attention. el.ziade (talkallam) 07:15, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
- Elias Ziade: Thanks for fixing that! New: yes; long enough: yes; hook inline referenced: yes (my comment above was about text in the Wikipedia article, not in the hook, sorry for the confusion; I've reworded the Wikipedia text by dropping the Antiquity part); generally follows Wikipedia policy (the images have survived in Commons for a long time so are unlikely to be copyvios; quite a few of the references are paywalled, but that's an annoying realpolitik necessity in Wikipedia, it's not against policy); QPQ: yes. Good to go! Boud (talk) 15:32, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
- The article was deleted and re-published. Thank you for bringing this to my attention. el.ziade (talkallam) 07:15, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
Dance in Suriname
- ... that there is an annual holiday for dancing pallbearers in Suriname (pictured)? Source in Dutch[1]
- ALT1:... that Javanese dancers in Suriname have adopted movements from martial arts and dance to Creole kaseko music? Source: Lie A Ling, Marlène Aminah (1992). "Dans". In van Binnendijk, Chandra; Faber, Paul (eds.). Sranan, Cultur in Suriname (in Dutch). Amsterdam: Koninklijk Instituut voor de Tropen. pp. 111–112. ISBN 9789068322378.
- ALT2:... that a style of jazz ballet developed in Suriname combines Afro-Caribbean rhythms with Indian hand, foot and head movements? Source in Dutch[2]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Lisa Nishimura
- Comment: A translation of Ymnes' great article from nlwiki.
Moved to mainspace by Ymnes (talk) and Joofjoof (talk). Nominated by Joofjoof (talk) at 10:57, 27 July 2021 (UTC).
- New and long enough. Neutral. AGF on citations, copyvio and hook sourcing because sources are in Dutch and Indonesian. Appropriate hooks. QPQ met. Attractive and free image, used in the article. Sandstein 13:27, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on July 28
British Club (Bangkok)
- ... that Bangkok's British Club (1912 postcard pictured) was founded following a dispute among members of the main Westerners' social club at the time? Source: "History does not record what the ‘dispute’ was, that led to a serious falling out amongst its members only that on 24th April 1903 senior members of the United Club, who were British businessmen and diplomatic civil servants, formed the most British of entities, “a committee”, to establish a British Club in Bangkok, in the style enjoyed by their peers in the British Empire throughout the world."[3]
- ALT1:... that following World War II, members of Bangkok's British Club were able to reclaim the building (1912 postcard pictured) thanks to a mortgage that helped preserve its land deeds? Source: "After the end of the Second World War, there was some local confusion over the ownership of the premises, which was initially given to the YMCA, fortunately the Club was lucky in that its two land deeds (‘chanotes’) were mortgaged to the Hongkong & Shanghai Bank and thus survived the war." (same source)
- Reviewed: Bob Wells (vandweller)
Created by Paul_012 (talk). Self-nominated at 17:38, 4 August 2021 (UTC).
- @Paul 012: New and long enough, a copyvio check finds 12% which is OK but not great (could be improved by tweaking the wording), and well referenced. I think ALT1 is more interesting than the main hook, but both look OK. A possible ALT3 might be something around it being an anciement monument, if you're interested? Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 19:11, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for the review. "Ancient monument" might seem interesting at first glance, but it's really just the official Thai term for "listed building", which number in the thousands. Playing on the unusualness of the term could work for DYK purposes, but I'd prefer not to unless there's no better option. --Paul_012 (talk) 19:21, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Paul 012: New and long enough, a copyvio check finds 12% which is OK but not great (could be improved by tweaking the wording), and well referenced. I think ALT1 is more interesting than the main hook, but both look OK. A possible ALT3 might be something around it being an anciement monument, if you're interested? Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 19:11, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on July 29
The Boy Behind the Door
- ... that The Boy Behind the Door was conceived by David Charbonier and Justin Powell after they had been repeatedly rejected by production companies citing budgetary concerns? Lemire, Christy (July 29, 2021). "The Boy Behind the Door". RogerEbert.com. Retrieved August 4, 2021.
- ALT1:... that Charbonier and Powell claim to have based elements of the The Boy Behind the Door on The Shining and The Goonies, while acknowledging similarities between the film and The People Under the Stairs, though they have never seen the film? Thompson, Simon (July 29, 2021). "Inside 'The Boy Behind The Door', The Low Budget Thriller That Has Been Wowing Festival Audiences". Forbes.
Created/expanded by Throast (talk) and Filmomusico (talk). Nominated by Filmomusico (talk) at 18:39, 4 August 2021 (UTC).
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- Neutral:
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
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Overall: Article is new enough, long enough, well-sourced and neutral. However, picked up a 61.9% similarity to this website. I do not see any timestamps to see when the website was published so I have no idea which website copied from which. I'll assume good faith, so I just need your confirmation that you (or another editor) did not copied from the website. The hooks are cited it article and interesting. However, ALT0 is less interesting than it could be as it seems to place emphasis on the location rather than the period of time which I find more interesting. I had to read ALT1 multiple times before I knew what it meant so you might have to alter it a bit. Nominator only has 2 prior nominations so no QPQ needed. Ping me in your replies! Pamzeis (talk) 07:49, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Pamzeis: I don't go to Persian websites, so you have my consent that I didn't copy paste from it. I also need to assume that creator of the article wasn't aware of it existence either. I also removed an uninteresting hook (as you suggested), and added a different one in ALT1 as well as altering the hook that you found to be of interest.--Filmomusico (talk) 15:52, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
- Sorry for the late reply. I got 7 notifications this morning so I must have gotten everything mixed up. I've tweaked ALT1. I'll AGF that you didn't copy from the website. Pamzeis (talk) 04:12, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks. As I said earlier, I didn't even knew of this site's existence.--Filmomusico (talk) 14:42, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
- Sorry for the late reply. I got 7 notifications this morning so I must have gotten everything mixed up. I've tweaked ALT1. I'll AGF that you didn't copy from the website. Pamzeis (talk) 04:12, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
- Returning to the nominations page for tag to be addressed. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:22, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Throast: Please address the "Plot too long" tag so that this nomination can proceed. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:29, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Cwmhiraeth: Whoever nominated this article can shorten the plot. As I haven't written the summary myself, it would probably take a lot of time for me to do it since large passages would have to be rewritten. I don't have the time on my hands to do that right now. Throast (talk | contribs) 08:32, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Filmomusico: The plot section was added by an IP. Do you want to address the issue, because if not, I will mark this for closure. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 08:57, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Cwmhiraeth: Whoever nominated this article can shorten the plot. As I haven't written the summary myself, it would probably take a lot of time for me to do it since large passages would have to be rewritten. I don't have the time on my hands to do that right now. Throast (talk | contribs) 08:32, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Throast: Please address the "Plot too long" tag so that this nomination can proceed. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:29, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
Bio's Bahnhof
... that Bio's Bahnhof was a live television music talk show presented by Alfred Biolek (pictured) in a former tram depot, combining a wide variety of music genres and performers?Source: [4]
- Reviewed: Louise Heims Beck
- Comment: Sammy Davis Jr. said it was the best show, which would also be good for a hook, but I feel we have to say a bit about what it was. Help?
Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 15:14, 5 August 2021 (UTC).
- Article is new enough and long enough and adequately source. No close paraphrasing was found, and a QPQ has been done. Assuming good faith for German sources. I'm not really sure if the "combining a wide variety of music genres and performers" fact is really necessary here, the really interesting fact here is that it was broadcast from a former tram depot (in addition, while the tram depot fact has a footnote, the genres part doesn't). Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:24, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
- The fact that made Sammy Davis call it "the best" wasn't only because of the location. I'd wish we had the room to name a few of the extremes nowhere else combined, such as contemporary classical music, American super stars (some discovered there for Europe), and amateur ensembles, all live. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:41, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
- There should be lots of great little factoids here, and not all are in the article yet :) From the German Wikipedia: Did you know that Kate Bush made her first TV appearance in this show and not in England? (It checks out with what we say on Wuthering Heights (song)). —Kusma (talk) 21:21, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
- Go ahead, add that and much more, - it's just commented out. I opened the episodes, with plenty of names, and think mentioning Bush (or any other) would be unfair, - an unbelievable mix! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:34, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
- ALT0a:
... that Bio's Bahnhof was a live television music talk show presented by Alfred Biolek (pictured) in a former tram depot?Grimes2 (talk) 09:27, 12 August 2021 (UTC) - ALT1: ...
that Kate Bush made her first television appearance in the first issue of Bio's Bahnhof, a live television music talk show presented by Alfred Biolek (pictured) in a former tram depot?Source: [5] Grimes2 (talk) 09:54, 12 August 2021 (UTC) - ALT1a: ...
that Kate Bush made her first television appearance in the first issue of Bio's Bahnhof, a live music talk show presented by Alfred Biolek (pictured) in a former tram depot?Grimes2 (talk) 10:11, 12 August 2021 (UTC)- I'm often told not to rely on readers knowing names. Will they know Kate Bush? Do we collect links to her first of all, by her link being first? Just questions. Should we mention "German" somewhere then, because that seems most of the surprise? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:38, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
- ALT1b:
... that Kate Bush made her first television appearance in the first issue of Bio's Bahnhof, a German live music talk show presented by Alfred Biolek (pictured) in a former tram depot? Grimes2(talk) 17:07, 12 August 2021 (UTC) - ALT1c:
... that in the first issue of Bio's Bahnhof, a German live music talk show presented by Alfred Biolek (pictured) in a former tram depot, Kate Bush made her first television appearance?Grimes2 (talk) 17:16, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
- Grimes, all of the variations of ALT1 are a bit too complicated (i.e. trying to combine several facts into one article). Perhaps it's better to propose two separate hooks, one about the tram depot fact and the other about the Kate Bush fact, and let a promoter decide which is better? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:30, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
- ALT1d: ... that in the first issue of Bio's Bahnhof, a German live music talk show presented by Alfred Biolek (pictured), Kate Bush made her first television appearance? Grimes2 (talk) 05:05, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
- ALT0a or ALT1d. Grimes2 (talk) 05:05, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
- A German reader would understand the train connection by the title, but in English, without a hint we loose too much which looks essential to me.
- ALT1e:
... that in the first issue of Bio's Bahnhof, a German live music talk show presented by Alfred Biolek (pictured) in a former tram depot, Kate Bush made her first television appearance? - If that is regarded as too long, we could drop the "first issue" bit, but it says in just 2 words that this was a series, and it couldn't be said more elegantly. Thank you, Grimes2! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:34, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
- ALT1f: ... that in Bio's Bahnhof, a German live music talk show presented by Alfred Biolek (pictured) in a former tram depot, Kate Bush made her first television appearance? Grimes2 (talk) 07:39, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
- Article is new enough and long enough and adequately source. No close paraphrasing was found, and a QPQ has been done. Assuming good faith for German sources. I'm not really sure if the "combining a wide variety of music genres and performers" fact is really necessary here, the really interesting fact here is that it was broadcast from a former tram depot (in addition, while the tram depot fact has a footnote, the genres part doesn't). Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:24, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
- Comment: ALT1c = ALT1e. Grimes2 (talk) 08:00, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
- Among the options proposed so far, I'm most partial to ALT0a and ALT1b. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:11, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
- I prefer ALT0a or ALT1f, because we don't want to collect links for Kate Bush, by linking her first. Grimes2 (talk) 10:35, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
- After striking a few, we have d and f left, and I prefer f by far because it refers to the show's title without being longer. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:45, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
- I prefer ALT0a or ALT1f, because we don't want to collect links for Kate Bush, by linking her first. Grimes2 (talk) 10:35, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
- Based on the discussion above, I think there's some agreement to go with ALT1f. It seems like a decent compromise: it mentions Bush, it mentions the tram depot fact, and it gives emphasis on the hook subject. I still feel it's a bit too complicated, but it shouldn't hurt and both article contributors are partial to it, so it seems like the best option at this time. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:28, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
2010 Japanese Grand Prix
- ... that torrential rain (pictured) meant that some spectators missed out at the 2010 Japanese Grand Prix when the qualifying practice session was delayed until the following day? Source: "
Inclement weather continued to disrupt the Saturday's proceedings as qualifying was delayed three times every half an hour while the safety car was deployed several times to assess the conditions before being ultimately rescheduled for Sunday morning by the Fédération Internationale de l'Automobile (FIA)'s race director Charlie Whiting on safety grounds arising from fading light levels.
" Reuters, BBC "Local driver Kamui Kobayashi for Sauber said he felt sorry for attendees seated in the grandstands not witnessing any action.
" Crash
- ALT1:... that Lewis Hamilton (pictured in car) had to start the 2010 Japanese Grand Prix from five places further back than he qualified after the McLaren mechanics changed his Formula One car's gearbox? Source: "
After qualifying, Hamilton was demoted five starting places because McLaren opted to change his gearbox after detecting worsening abnormal gearbox oil pressure in his vehicle during the third practice session that could not be rectified before qualifying.
" Reuters
- ALT2:... that Fernando Alonso (pictured in car) finished third at the 2010 Japanese Grand Prix while his Ferrari teammate Felipe Massa crashed out at the first corner? ESPN, Autosport "
Alonso revealed he made a slow getaway but felt his team had to be satisfied with his coming third despite lacking pace: "We saw we were struggling today: in Q1 we were P7, we saw problems also for Felipe in Q2, so it was maybe not an ideal weekend in terms of pace and we lost three points in the championship, but overall we have to be extremely happy."
" FIA; "Massa was given less room trying to pass the slow-starting Rosberg and had to drove onto the grass on the track's inside. This caused him to lose control of his car and hit the side of Liuzzi's vehicle.
" ITV
- Reviewed: This is my fifth nomination, although I have reviewed several other nominations recently
- Comment: Article became a good article on 29 July 2021. Would like to request that the hook be reserved for the afternoon of either 29 August, 5 September, or 12 September, as those coincide with the dates of upcoming Grands Prix; or for the morning of 10 October, as that coincides with the currently scheduled date of the 2021 Japanese Grand Prix.
Improved to Good Article status by MWright96 (talk). Nominated by HumanBodyPiloter5 (talk) at 06:08, 2 August 2021 (UTC).
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Overall: I've made some minor copyedits. I think ALT2 is the best hook - it's about the race, whereas the others are only about preliminary matters. Bahnfrend (talk) 15:40, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on July 30
Waeapo River
- ... that thousands of political prisoners in Indonesia were interned in the Waeapo River valley in Buru? Source: [6]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Tomorrow Belongs to Me
- Comment: I would link an article about the Indonesian mass killings of 1965–66, but these are the political prisoners interned 4-6 years after the killings. Don't seem to see the Buru exiles being mentioned there.
Created by Juxlos (talk). Self-nominated at 06:14, 30 July 2021 (UTC).
- Don't see the hook fact in the article (no mention of "10,000", only "thousands of political prisoners were incarcerated in Buru..."). Source is inaccessible to me, so which one is it? Also awaiting QPQ. Cheers, Kingoflettuce (talk) 08:42, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Kingoflettuce: Let's play it safe and go with "thousands". QPQ has been added. Juxlos (talk) 03:40, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Kingoflettuce: You there? Juxlos (talk) 07:05, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
- Oops, missed this. All seems to be in order now. Article is new and long enough, hook fact appropriately cited and interesting, QPQ done. Cheers! Kingoflettuce (talk) 08:14, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
Mairin Mitchell
- ... that George Orwell said of Mairin Mitchell's Storm Over Spain (1937) that it was "written by a Catholic, but very sympathetic to the Spanish Anarchists"?
Source: George Orwell, "Review Storm over Spain by Mairin Mitchell" in The Collected Essays, Journalism and Letters of George Orwell: An age like this, 1920-1940 (Secker & Warburg, 1968), pp. 296–297
- Reviewed: Dracophyllum traversii
Created by Moonraker (talk). Self-nominated at 09:13, 3 August 2021 (UTC).
Scouring (textiles)
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that once the textile industry was a household production?Women behind textiles[7]:36ALT1:... that scouring (pictured) is a cleaning process for textiles which is now an industrial process adopted from domestic chores; women in the Scottish Gaelic tradition were used to sing waulking songs while doing cleaning and milling? In groups women were used to sing while finishing the newly made cloth- ALT2 ... that scouring in wool (pictured) is among the essential pre-treatments of textiles that prepares them for subsequent processes such as bleaching, dyeing, and printing? Source – Textiles, pp. 74-75
- ALT3 ... that scouring of wool (pictured) was carried out in aged urine? Source – pp. 92
- ALT4 ... that all textiles go through scouring, which is a cleaning process before the application of color and prints? Source Textiles, pp. 74-75
- ALT5 ... that scouring is among the essential pre-treatments of textiles that prepares them for subsequent processes such as bleaching, dyeing, and printing? Source Textiles, pp. 74-75
Created by RAJIVVASUDEV (talk). Self-nominated at 05:47, 30 July 2021 (UTC).
- – Hi @RAJIVVASUDEV – The article is new enough (created on July 27, 2021) and long enough (6296 characters). Most of the prose is cited, and earwig shown minimal similarity (1%). QPQ is not required. The major issue with this nomination is the hook. The first hook doesn't link the article, and doesn't relate much with the article. ALT 1 is too long; it needs to be reduced. I don't quite feel that "gaelic.co" is a reliable source. I also noticed that some everyday words in the article like "home" and "women" are linked; remove those links. As of now, article needs to be copy edited. Ping me when you have addressed these concerns. Thanks! – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 15:07, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
- Alt 1 comes in at 239 characters, above the 200 character limit on hooks. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 15:58, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
- The illustration I see with this nomination does not show scouring at all, but fulling, an entirely different process. The nonsense about adopted from domestic chores is balderdash too. -Roxy the grumpy dog. wooF 16:24, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Kavyansh.Singh Thank you so much for your review and comments, BTW Kindly ignore Roxy because they have special interest in me and my work, their [comments] are [more or less similar] on my every edit. I'll make the changes you've suggested. Thanks and regards. RV (talk) 16:39, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
- Oh, I see. I'll suggest you to add some more interesting hooks. And anyways, his concern about image is more or less true (though it could have been said in a bit polite manner). I noticed that he removed my comments from this page in this edit. I wonder why? @RAJIVVASUDEV – Thanks for your work so far. – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 16:48, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
- No, their comments are not valid. Fulling is a part of wool cleaning. That is how the women were used to clean the newly made woolens in pre-industrial time. But if the changes are truly necessary, I will make them. Thanks for your kind words. Best regards RV (talk) 17:08, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
- Your understanding is incorrect Raj. Fulling and scouring are not the same, nor was one a development of the other. My concern about the image is not "more or less true" but "totally accurate." Regarding comment removal, which appears to have been my fault, I didn't know I had done it, and suggest that an edit conflict may explain it. -Roxy the grumpy dog. wooF 17:27, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
- Roxy the dog Fulling and scouring are not synonymous, but they are correlated. And cannot be imagined apart from one another. Fulling involves two processes: scouring and milling (thickening).[FYI, See definition] IMO, the talk page is a better place for further discussion. RV (talk) 02:27, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
- Your understanding is incorrect Raj. Fulling and scouring are not the same, nor was one a development of the other. My concern about the image is not "more or less true" but "totally accurate." Regarding comment removal, which appears to have been my fault, I didn't know I had done it, and suggest that an edit conflict may explain it. -Roxy the grumpy dog. wooF 17:27, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
- No, their comments are not valid. Fulling is a part of wool cleaning. That is how the women were used to clean the newly made woolens in pre-industrial time. But if the changes are truly necessary, I will make them. Thanks for your kind words. Best regards RV (talk) 17:08, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
- Oh, I see. I'll suggest you to add some more interesting hooks. And anyways, his concern about image is more or less true (though it could have been said in a bit polite manner). I noticed that he removed my comments from this page in this edit. I wonder why? @RAJIVVASUDEV – Thanks for your work so far. – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 16:48, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Kavyansh.Singh Thank you so much for your review and comments, BTW Kindly ignore Roxy because they have special interest in me and my work, their [comments] are [more or less similar] on my every edit. I'll make the changes you've suggested. Thanks and regards. RV (talk) 16:39, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
- The illustration I see with this nomination does not show scouring at all, but fulling, an entirely different process. The nonsense about adopted from domestic chores is balderdash too. -Roxy the grumpy dog. wooF 16:24, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
Review for ALT 2– – @RAJIVVASUDEV – The hook still has few issues. We can't have two sentenced hooks. Moreover, the hook needs to be mentioned in the article. And I don't understand what does "even before you wear them"
mean? Please mention the page number of the book sourced with the hook. The image looks fine, but is it related with the new hook? – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 06:10, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
- Hook is revised per advise. Regards RV (talk) 07:32, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
- – The hook looks fine now, and is cited. I made a few changes. ALT 2 with image is approved. – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 07:48, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
- If this article goes to DYK, will there be a proper explanation of wool scouring, far more important than Kier boiling in cotton? Including scouring machinery and it's history. At the moment, there isn't a reasonable explanation of wool scouring, which is far far more important than cotton scouring, as unlike cotton, all wool is scoured. Sentences that are meaningless like the following ... "Steeping refers to the unshorn-washed wool on the back of the sheep " ought to be erased. We should not mislead readers by putting this in DYK as it stands. I also note that the newly proposed pic shows raw wool and post souring wool, but no detail about scouring itself. -Roxy the grumpy dog. wooF 16:00, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Roxy the dog – About the image, I see no issues as the source clearly states "Wool before scouring by the Siroscour process (top), and after (bottom)"; which is related to scouring. As to your other concern, I guess some assistance is required by a user experienced in this topic. I reviewed the nomination per the hook, which is cited to a reliable source. I'll seek some assistance from the DYK talk page. – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 16:14, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Roxy the dog Your pain can be understood. Good to see that you learn about the topic that did not exist when it was begun. [See Talk page]. You mustn't be concerned about what you pretend to be and stop hounding. BTW What makes you understand the importance of cotton less than wool? Secondly, how do you know that the wool in the image is soured not scoured? Here are the examples of your authenticity and sincerity in regard to the project, Where was the reader's interest when you proposed these articles unforgivably for deletion? Performance (textiles) [8], Bolt (cloth)[[9]], Ninon[[10]], slopseller [[11]] and interfering with the creation of Khes and Kesh episode [[12]], [[13]], [[14]]. Your comments on the picture are pathetic, we shall examine the valid concerns. Lastly no need to harp around, you are free to edit/remove/add the objectionable contents. After all Wikipedia is a team work. Thanks RV (talk) 03:57, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
- Raj Please note that the purpose of this page is to discuss the nomination for DYK of this article, not for your personal attacks on me or discussion of other articles. Discuss the message, not the messenger. -Roxy the grumpy dog. wooF 09:11, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
- Please do not portray it as a personal attack; I have tried to reply to every query and improve the article.@ Admin FYI, It was an [unknown] place for the messenger till 20th June. Kindly pay attention, they are here for these two articles [The subject article] and [Textile performance] only. Thanks RV (talk) 10:40, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
- Do you think that we should have a proper description of wool scouring in an article about scouring, particularly when the so-called hook here is about scouring of wool. Anybody coming to the article who wants to find out about scouring will be left with the impression that cotton scouring, a minor process in the cotton industry, is all there is. There isn't even a simple attempt to cover wool scouring. I also note that this article is about "scouring" not "Textile performance", so I suggest that this article is unsuitable for DYK, still. -Roxy the grumpy dog. wooF 14:11, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
- Though cotton contains fewer impurities than wool, is this a reason to say
that cotton scouring, a minor process in the cotton industry
? Please provide a source. We don't rely on opinions. Scouring is an essential treatment for every fiber type ranging from natural to synthetic. RV (talk) 15:04, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
- Though cotton contains fewer impurities than wool, is this a reason to say
- Do you think that we should have a proper description of wool scouring in an article about scouring, particularly when the so-called hook here is about scouring of wool. Anybody coming to the article who wants to find out about scouring will be left with the impression that cotton scouring, a minor process in the cotton industry, is all there is. There isn't even a simple attempt to cover wool scouring. I also note that this article is about "scouring" not "Textile performance", so I suggest that this article is unsuitable for DYK, still. -Roxy the grumpy dog. wooF 14:11, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
- Please do not portray it as a personal attack; I have tried to reply to every query and improve the article.@ Admin FYI, It was an [unknown] place for the messenger till 20th June. Kindly pay attention, they are here for these two articles [The subject article] and [Textile performance] only. Thanks RV (talk) 10:40, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
- Raj Please note that the purpose of this page is to discuss the nomination for DYK of this article, not for your personal attacks on me or discussion of other articles. Discuss the message, not the messenger. -Roxy the grumpy dog. wooF 09:11, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Roxy the dog Your pain can be understood. Good to see that you learn about the topic that did not exist when it was begun. [See Talk page]. You mustn't be concerned about what you pretend to be and stop hounding. BTW What makes you understand the importance of cotton less than wool? Secondly, how do you know that the wool in the image is soured not scoured? Here are the examples of your authenticity and sincerity in regard to the project, Where was the reader's interest when you proposed these articles unforgivably for deletion? Performance (textiles) [8], Bolt (cloth)[[9]], Ninon[[10]], slopseller [[11]] and interfering with the creation of Khes and Kesh episode [[12]], [[13]], [[14]]. Your comments on the picture are pathetic, we shall examine the valid concerns. Lastly no need to harp around, you are free to edit/remove/add the objectionable contents. After all Wikipedia is a team work. Thanks RV (talk) 03:57, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Roxy the dog – About the image, I see no issues as the source clearly states "Wool before scouring by the Siroscour process (top), and after (bottom)"; which is related to scouring. As to your other concern, I guess some assistance is required by a user experienced in this topic. I reviewed the nomination per the hook, which is cited to a reliable source. I'll seek some assistance from the DYK talk page. – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 16:14, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
- If this article goes to DYK, will there be a proper explanation of wool scouring, far more important than Kier boiling in cotton? Including scouring machinery and it's history. At the moment, there isn't a reasonable explanation of wool scouring, which is far far more important than cotton scouring, as unlike cotton, all wool is scoured. Sentences that are meaningless like the following ... "Steeping refers to the unshorn-washed wool on the back of the sheep " ought to be erased. We should not mislead readers by putting this in DYK as it stands. I also note that the newly proposed pic shows raw wool and post souring wool, but no detail about scouring itself. -Roxy the grumpy dog. wooF 16:00, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
- – The hook looks fine now, and is cited. I made a few changes. ALT 2 with image is approved. – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 07:48, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
Thomas Lord Busby
- ... that Thomas Lord Busby's portrait of the busker Billy Waters (pictured) inspired Derby and Staffordshire figures?
Source: Oskar Cox Jensen, The Ballad-Singer in Georgian and Victorian London (Cambridge University Press, 2021), p. 45
- Reviewed: Characteres generum plantarum
Created by Moonraker (talk). Self-nominated at 08:57, 3 August 2021 (UTC).
- The article is currently 1364 characters and is therefore too short. It needs to be 1500 characters, - I expect you can expand it a bit. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:00, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks, Cwmhiraeth, I think I have added enough now. Moonraker (talk) 10:55, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks, this article is new enough and now long enough. The image is appropriately licensed, the hook facts are cited inline, the article is neutral, and I detected no copyright issues. A QPQ has been done. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 11:03, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
Characteres generum plantarum
- ... that 43 of the 94 botanical names published in 1775/76 by Johann Reinhold Forster and Georg Forster (pictured) in Characteres generum plantarum are still in use today? Source: Nicolson, Dan H; Fosberg, F. Raymond (2004). The Forsters and the botany of the Second Cook Expedition (1772-1775), p. 15
- ALT1:... that Johann Reinhold Forster and Georg Forster (pictured) apologised for only including 75 new genera in their work Characteres generum plantarum about the botany of the second voyage of James Cook? Source: Preface of the book, translated here. Mentioned also in Hoare, Michael Edward (1982). The Resolution journal of Johann Reinhold Forster, 1772-1775, p. 82.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Citigroup Center
- Comment: Better hook ideas always welcome.
Moved to mainspace by Kusma (talk). Self-nominated at 10:51, 30 July 2021 (UTC).
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Overall: All points check out, image is in public domain, ready to go with either hook, but ALT1 seems the better one to me. Moonraker (talk) 08:53, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
Cambus O' May bridge
- ... that after the Cambus O' May bridge (pictured) was damaged by Storm Frank in December 2015 it took more than five years to repair and reopen? "The iconic Cambus O' May suspension bridge which was severely damaged by floods during Storm Frank at the end of 2015 has reopened following major repair works." from: Porter, David (1 April 2021). "Iconic north-east suspension bridge reopens after major repair works". Grampian Online. Retrieved 26 July 2021.
- ALT1:... that Prince Charles donated money to help repair the Cambus O' May bridge (pictured) after it was badly damaged by Storm Frank in 2015?"the project received funding the Ballater Royal Deeside group, as well as a personal donation by Prince Charles in 2019." from: Beattie, Kieran (13 April 2021). "Anger as council revamps flood-battered bridge - but leaves turnstile that makes wheelchair access 'impossible'". Press and Journal. Retrieved 26 July 2021.
Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Self-nominated at 06:31, 30 July 2021 (UTC).
- Under review. Bermicourt (talk) 17:45, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
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Overall: A nice, rounded little article that is new enough, long enough and well cited. Sources are taken in good faith and an assumption made that it is plagiarism free. That is certainly the case with the accessible sources. The hook is backed up and the image is clear and appropriately licensed. If we can clear up the length of time taken to repair the bridge, the main hook is fine. ALT1 is also good to go and, if I had to vote, I'd probably run with that one. Bermicourt (talk) 18:03, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Bermicourt, thanks for your review. Whichever source it is that states six years must be wrong. The storm was in December 2015 so it has not yet been six years, the bridge definitely reopened in April 2021 so around 5 and a third years. Is suspect it's a lazy subtraction of 2021 minus 2015 - Dumelow (talk) 18:42, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
- Of course, that makes entire sense. In which case I reckon this is GTG. Bermicourt (talk) 22:03, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Bermicourt, thanks for your review. Whichever source it is that states six years must be wrong. The storm was in December 2015 so it has not yet been six years, the bridge definitely reopened in April 2021 so around 5 and a third years. Is suspect it's a lazy subtraction of 2021 minus 2015 - Dumelow (talk) 18:42, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on August 1
Gavrilița Cabinet
- ... that after appointing Gavrilița Cabinet, Moldova became the second republic in the world where the head of state and the head of government are women? Source: list on Wikipedia, EUobserver
- ALT1:... that after appointing Gavrilița Cabinet, Moldova has both female head of state and head of government?
- Reviewed: not required yet
Created/expanded by Stalin990 (talk) and Andrew J.Kurbiko (talk). Nominated by Andrew J.Kurbiko (talk) at 19:46, 6 August 2021 (UTC).
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Overall: The article is new and long enough. Sourcing is OK, sample check from Romanian/Moldovan/whatever has not revealed any obvious plagiarism; the article seems to be balanced. As for the hook, the first version of the hook seems very risky: when you sort the table in Wikipedia by countries, it appears that Finland had a female PM and a female President in 2010-11 (and it is a republic), now so does Estonia, and, since a week or so, Moldova (there's one more thing: what are we going to do with Switzerland/San Marino, where a collective head of state/government is in place?) Therefore, I can either agree on ALT1, as it is cited, or a slightly changed version of ALT0:
- ALT0a:... that after appointing Gavrilița Cabinet, Moldova is currently one of only two countries in the world (the other being Estonia) where the non-collective head of state and the head of government are both women? (changes in italics)
That is when it comes to the DYK review, which you basically passed in all but hook choice (remember to start doing DYK reviews, though, because you've now used up all your "free" QPQ credits, this is 5th). I'd note, however, that since the event is recent, I think you could (have) ask(ed) for review at the In the news section, which would appear for longer and probably attract more attention (not that I propose to do that just now, because after 3-4 days, the event might be considered already not news). Remember, though, that that would probably require some more work on the Gavrilița Cabinet article or the list, which has a "Multiple issues" template, and AFAIK a DYK item and an ITN item on the same topic can't really appear. Szmenderowiecki (talk) 09:40, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you! For your review and your comment as well. I agree with your ALT suggestion, because, although it was not my intention, the first version of the hook might be misread. Perhaps ALT0a is better. I tried to nominate this fact here (without empathising the feminist aspect, I have no idea how InTheNews project works) - Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#(Closed)_Prime_Minister_of_Moldova, but failed --Andrei (talk) 10:20, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
- Andrew J.Kurbiko, I got you, in that case, I'll shorten the the ALT0a to make it under 200 characters. Confirm (200 characters exactly):
- ALT0a-final:... that after appointing Gavrilița Cabinet, Moldova, besides Estonia, is now the only republic in the world where the non-collective head of state and head of government positions are both held by women?
- (Comment. Just noticed that NZ has both a female PM and a Gov. General (and Queen Elizabeth II, of course, unless you watch Polish state media and don't read the errata :), so I reverted the version back to republics).
- I do encourage to read the general criteria, events presumed to be automatically notable and rules for inclusion of deaths on the In the news project. In this particular case, I didn't know that the election was posted, but otherwise it would have probably merited a place there. Szmenderowiecki (talk) 10:49, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Andrew J.Kurbiko:, do you copy? Szmenderowiecki (talk) 20:19, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, so ALT0a-final looks like the final version. Not sure if any further action is required? --Andrei (talk) 07:19, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
- No, that's it, thank you. ALT0-final approved. Have a good day. Szmenderowiecki (talk) 08:13, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, so ALT0a-final looks like the final version. Not sure if any further action is required? --Andrei (talk) 07:19, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Andrew J.Kurbiko:, do you copy? Szmenderowiecki (talk) 20:19, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
Zuijin Teiki Emaki
- ... that the Zuijin Teiki Emaki, a 13th century Japanese painted handscroll (pictured), presents nine equestrian portraits of some of the Imperial Guards who protected the Daijō Tennō (retired emperor)? Source: Miya, Tsugio (1978). 天子摂関御影・公家列影図・中殿御会図・隨身庭騎絵卷 [Tenno Sekkan Mikage, Koya Retsukagezu, Nakaden Gokaizu, Zuijin Teiki Emaki], pp. 9–14)
- ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)
- Reviewed: Florian Boesch
Created by Bahnfrend (talk). Self-nominated at 01:54, 3 August 2021 (UTC).
- Article is new, long enough and neutral. It cites sources inline. "Earwig's Copyvio Detector" reports no text similarities at all. For the sources in foreign kanguage or offline, I AGF. The hook is well-formatted and interesting. Its length is within limit. Its fact is accurate with inline citation, for which I AGF. The image is contained in the article, and is ©-free. QPQ was done. Good to go. CeeGee 08:26, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on August 3
Columbia Eneutseak
- ... that Columbia Eneutseak (pictured), named for the World's Columbian Exposition where she was born into one of the exhibits, starred in her film The Way of the Eskimo? Source: includes this
- ALT1:... that ..have a go!.?
- Reviewed: Kristofferson
Created by Penny Richards (talk). Nominated by Victuallers (talk) at 10:17, 4 August 2021 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on August 4
Division of Industrial Hygiene
- ... that the Division of Industrial Hygiene moved from a custom-built laboratory at the NIH campus in Bethesda, Maryland (depicted in video) to a converted warehouse in Cincinnati when worker health fell out of favor?
- Source: "Building 2 contained the first laboratories in the United States built solely for the study of industrial hygiene in the nation." [15], p. 30; "The DOH now occupies... a converted warehouse building in Cincinnati" [16], p. 201; "Unfortunately, during the 1950s occupational health was not a major concern. Most Americans in the 1950s were uninterested in occupational health." [17], p.17
- Reviewed: Ian Fraser Muir
- Comment: The Division of Industrial Hygiene is the direct predecessor of NIOSH. The article is entirely historical, but I still request an experienced reviewer to check for COI issues.
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Overall: I don't see any WP:POV problems due to WP:COI–another editor can take a look, if they'd like, but I think it's fine. As soon as the sourcing works out, we are good to go. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 20:26, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Theleekycauldron: The hook is specifically worded so that it does not imply a causative link. It says the relocation happened "when" worker health fell out of favor, not "because" of it. John P. Sadowski (NIOSH) (talk) 01:07, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
- @John P. Sadowski: Sure, that puts it in a grey area– but in a 200-character text bite like DYK, people aren't going to see the two pieces of information and assume that they're independent, or not causative (at least, in my opinion). theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 01:26, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
- @John P. Sadowski (NIOSH: repinging because i messed it up theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 01:27, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
- @John P. Sadowski (NIOSH): aaaaaaaaaaa theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 01:27, 11 August 2021 (UTC) <- this did not work either
- @John P. Sadowski (NIOSH): aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 01:28, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Theleekycauldron: It's not a grey area; these words have specific meanings, and the hook uses the right words to mean the intended and correct thing. John P. Sadowski (NIOSH) (talk) 01:58, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
- @John P. Sadowski (NIOSH): I agree with you that the literal, facial meaning of your words does not imply causation. I think, though, that on a forum like DYK, even the quick-glance notion that two separate statements might be connected leave some people thinking that there's a causation, or that one provides context for the other. Also, if it really isn't connected, it shouldn't be in the hook–we're going for one fact at a time. If we can't show that one is the context or cause for the other, they shouldn't be in the same hook. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 02:53, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Theleekycauldron: Would it be sufficiently clear if we replaced "when" with "at the same time that"? John P. Sadowski (NIOSH) (talk) 03:05, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
- @John P. Sadowski (NIOSH): I agree with you that the literal, facial meaning of your words does not imply causation. I think, though, that on a forum like DYK, even the quick-glance notion that two separate statements might be connected leave some people thinking that there's a causation, or that one provides context for the other. Also, if it really isn't connected, it shouldn't be in the hook–we're going for one fact at a time. If we can't show that one is the context or cause for the other, they shouldn't be in the same hook. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 02:53, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Theleekycauldron: It's not a grey area; these words have specific meanings, and the hook uses the right words to mean the intended and correct thing. John P. Sadowski (NIOSH) (talk) 01:58, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Theleekycauldron: They are related. Moving from a nice building to a crummy one happened in the context of their research topic falling out of favor. I was careful with the language because I don't have a source that directly confirms a causal link, but it does provide the relevant broader context in which the move happened. John P. Sadowski (NIOSH) (talk)
- @John P. Sadowski (NIOSH): In that case, I think you would need to show with sourcing that one serves as relevant context for the other. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 04:50, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Theleekycauldron: Do you need a source that the Division of Industrial Hygiene focused on worker health? There are lots of those. Maybe the problem is that "industrial hygiene" is an unfamiliar term; it's essentially a synonym for worker health studies and interventions. John P. Sadowski (NIOSH) (talk) 04:53, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
- @John P. Sadowski (NIOSH): I'm leaning towards no, you would need a source that directly confirms the statement you're making. It is sensible to say that because the division was focused on industrial health (something you can show) and because worker health fell out of favour (something you can show), that the division relocated. Perfectly logical step–but wikipedia is a tertiary source, not a secondary source, and we aren't able to make that step without a secondary source providing direct confirmation that one is context for the other. Is there no way we can show that? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 20:07, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
- If not, I'd say that the hook is probably more trouble than it's worth. May I suggest some alternate hooks?
- ALT1: ... that one program at the Division of Industrial Hygiene was focused on preventing poisoning due to TNT at government-owned explosives factories operated by contractors during World War II? source: "To prevent a repitition of high mortality from diseases such as TNT poisoning, which occured in World War I, the Ordnance Department and the Public Health Service entered into an agreement whereby the Division of Industrial Hygiene would provide occupational medical and industrial hygiene services to government-owned, contractor-operated arsenals. source
- ALT2: ... that one program at the Division of Industrial Hygiene during the mid-1960s was focused on lung cancer among uranium miners? "In 1967, however, several lung victims received wide publicity, which motivated the Joint Committee to schedule hearings on the nature and extent of lung cancer among uranium miners. source
- Your choice, of course–these are just suggestions. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 20:07, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Theleekycauldron: Do you need a source that the Division of Industrial Hygiene focused on worker health? There are lots of those. Maybe the problem is that "industrial hygiene" is an unfamiliar term; it's essentially a synonym for worker health studies and interventions. John P. Sadowski (NIOSH) (talk) 04:53, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
- @John P. Sadowski (NIOSH): In that case, I think you would need to show with sourcing that one serves as relevant context for the other. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 04:50, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Theleekycauldron: I don't think you understand what the hook is saying. There is no "because" in the hook. It's not WP:SYNTHESIS to state that two things happened at the same time and pertain to the same topic, while using specific language that does not assert there is a causal link. In my long experience at DYK I believe this should be considered acceptable. Given that it looks like you have only three DYK credits at this time, if you don't mind, I'd like to get a third opinion from a more experienced reviewer on this. John P. Sadowski (NIOSH) (talk) 04:22, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
@John P. Sadowski (NIOSH): i mean i can't stop ya theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 06:55, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
- I'll ping @Vaticidalprophet and BD2412 for you. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 07:00, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
- Am I pinged here for any reason in particular? BD2412 T 15:42, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
- @BD2412: the nominator's asked for a third opinion/review, do you mind helping out? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 16:29, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
- I would disagree with the notion that worker health "fell out of favor"; to the contrary, the fuctions of the division were overtaken by OSHA, which is a quite far-reaching worker safety regime. BD2412 T 18:06, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
- That's not correct. OSHA and NIOSH were created in 1971; this statement is about the 1950s. Also, this division's functions were taken over by NIOSH, not OSHA. Can we have a reviewer who will actually look at the sources? John P. Sadowski (NIOSH) (talk) 19:40, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
- Which source do you propose stands for the rather bold proposition that "worker health fell out of favor"? BD2412 T 19:44, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
- @BD2412: It's listed right under the hook. I can find more sources too. After WWII, worker health received less attention and resources until it came back into focus during the 1960s, which led to the creation of NIOSH and OSHA in 1971. John P. Sadowski (NIOSH) (talk) 19:47, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
- Perhaps something more like, "when interest in worker health waned". BD2412 T 20:03, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
- @BD2412: That works great. It makes it clear that the loss of interest wasn't a permanent state. So:
- ALT 0a: ... that the Division of Industrial Hygiene moved from a custom-built laboratory at the NIH campus in Bethesda, Maryland (depicted in video) to a converted warehouse in Cincinnati when interest in worker health waned?
- John P. Sadowski (NIOSH) (talk) 20:06, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
- I think this is entirely acceptable. I do not see any unsupported assertion of but-for causation in the hook. BD2412 T 20:36, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
- Actually, one other tweak - perhaps it should say "as interest in worker health waned" rather than "when interest in worker health waned". BD2412 T 20:40, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
- I was actually thinking about the same change. Either is fine with me. John P. Sadowski (NIOSH) (talk) 21:10, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
- I think "as" is slightly better.
- ALT 0b: ... that the Division of Industrial Hygiene moved from a custom-built laboratory at the NIH campus in Bethesda, Maryland (depicted in video) to a converted warehouse in Cincinnati as interest in worker health waned?
- BD2412 T 22:06, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
- @BD2412: Okay! Any other issues or can you approve it? John P. Sadowski (NIOSH) (talk) 00:44, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
- I think "as" is slightly better.
- I was actually thinking about the same change. Either is fine with me. John P. Sadowski (NIOSH) (talk) 21:10, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
- @BD2412: That works great. It makes it clear that the loss of interest wasn't a permanent state. So:
- Perhaps something more like, "when interest in worker health waned". BD2412 T 20:03, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
- @BD2412: It's listed right under the hook. I can find more sources too. After WWII, worker health received less attention and resources until it came back into focus during the 1960s, which led to the creation of NIOSH and OSHA in 1971. John P. Sadowski (NIOSH) (talk) 19:47, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
- Which source do you propose stands for the rather bold proposition that "worker health fell out of favor"? BD2412 T 19:44, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
- That's not correct. OSHA and NIOSH were created in 1971; this statement is about the 1950s. Also, this division's functions were taken over by NIOSH, not OSHA. Can we have a reviewer who will actually look at the sources? John P. Sadowski (NIOSH) (talk) 19:40, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
- I would disagree with the notion that worker health "fell out of favor"; to the contrary, the fuctions of the division were overtaken by OSHA, which is a quite far-reaching worker safety regime. BD2412 T 18:06, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
- @BD2412: the nominator's asked for a third opinion/review, do you mind helping out? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 16:29, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
- I was about to promote this to prep, but find the hook unsupported by the article. The Division seems to have moved to Cincinnati in 1950, but that was before the budget cuts and the time when interest in worker health is said to have waned. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:25, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
- Am I pinged here for any reason in particular? BD2412 T 15:42, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
American Staghound
- ... that in the Wild West pioneers used to hunt wolves and coyotes with American Staghounds (pictured)? Fogle, Bruce. The encyclopedia of the dog. p. 112.Hancock, David. Sighthounds. pp. 100–104.Morris, Desmond. Dogs. p. 52.
- ALT1:... that the American Staghound (pictured) was developed by crossbreeding Greyhounds, Scottish Deerhounds, Irish Wolfhounds and Borzois? Fogle, Bruce. The encyclopedia of the dog. p. 112.Hancock, David. Sighthounds. pp. 100–104.Morris, Desmond. Dogs. p. 52.
Created by Cavalryman (talk). Self-nominated at 00:47, 5 August 2021 (UTC).
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Overall: Article is new enough, long enough and sourced. The photo is licensed for any uses (with attribution), looks nice and is in the article. Earwig is not picking up any copyvio (although the sources are offline anyway). Assuming good faith on both hooks, which are very interesting. qpq is done so these are good to go! BuySomeApples (talk) 20:03, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
- @BuySomeApples: apologies for the late response, many thanks. Kind regards, Cavalryman (talk) 11:12, 13 August 2021 (UTC).
- Thanks for writing such interesting articles @Cavalryman:! I've gotten a lot of enjoyment (and I hope education) from reading about all these different Staghounds. BuySomeApples (talk) 15:26, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on August 5
Paul Armin Edelmann
- ... that Paul Armin Edelmann (pictured) appeared in the title role of Mozart's Don Giovanni at the Opera Ireland in 2009, while his brother Peter took the role of Leporello? Source: [18]
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Created by LouisAlain (talk), Grimes2 (talk), and Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 21:42, 12 August 2021 (UTC).
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Overall: Nice article! It just needs a citation for the Television appearances paragraph, and the QPQ. Storye book (talk) 10:12, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you, please have a bit of patience, I am busy in real life, and then two people recent death need article care ... - but perhaps Grimes2 can help sooner. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:19, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
- Done Grimes2 (talk) 10:53, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you.
Just the QPQ left now.Cheers. Storye book (talk) 13:19, 13 August 2021 (UTC) @ Gerda Arendt. Just letting you know that I will not be regularly on WP for the next week or two, but will acknowledge your QPQ (when done) when possible. Thank you for your patience.Storye book (talk) 17:52, 13 August 2021 (UTC)- Thank you, Storye book, I reviewed now Template:Did you know nominations/Johannes Schott. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:50, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
- Good to go. Thank you both. Storye book (talk) 16:07, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you.
- Done Grimes2 (talk) 10:53, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
Horace Harral
- ... that Horace Harral engraved "one of the most famous photographs of the nineteenth century", a portrait of Isambard Kingdom Brunel (pictured), for publication in the Illustrated Times? "Isambard Kingdom Brunel by Horace Harral, published by Illustrated Times, after a photograph by Robert Howlett wood engraving" from: "Isambard Kingdom Brunel". National Portrait Gallery. Retrieved 4 August 2021.. The quote about the photograph is from: Christopher, John (2013). The Lost Works of Isambard Kingdom Brunel. Stroud, Gloucestershire: Amberley Publishing Limited. p. 8. ISBN 978-1-4456-2424-2.
Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Self-nominated at 20:43, 5 August 2021 (UTC).
- This article is new enough and long enough. The hook facts are cited inline, the article is neutral, and I detected no copyright issues. A QPQ has been done. @Dumelow: I have added a missing word to article and hook. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:50, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on August 6
Miguelina Acosta Cárdenas
... that Miguelina Acosta Cárdenas (pictured) was the first woman to graduate in law in Peru?Source: https://elperuano.pe/noticia/76203-la-primera-abogada-peruana
- QPQ – less than 5
Created by Less Unless (talk). Self-nominated at 19:49, 6 August 2021 (UTC).
- Interesting life, on fine sources, no copyvio obvious. Sorry, I don't like the hook. I don't care much about the "first woman" business (which is slightly sexist in a way), and we could say so much about what she did. I'll approve if you insist, but think that her character and aims in life are left out. - In the article, please note that the first time a subject is referred to in a section, it should be her name, not "she". We have readers who arrive there from the TOC. You are not obliged to do a review but could voluntarily do one ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:39, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
- I forgot: The image is licensed, and shows the period well. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:43, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
- I agree, Gerda Arendt, what do you think about this one? "Was a feminist, educator and activist who promoted rights of women, workers and indigenous peoples in Peru in the early 20-th century?" Feel free to change it if you feel something else might be better. Best, Less Unless (talk) 19:32, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
- If I word it I can't review. The idea is good, but too general. Want to try something more specific? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:01, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
- I agree, Gerda Arendt, what do you think about this one? "Was a feminist, educator and activist who promoted rights of women, workers and indigenous peoples in Peru in the early 20-th century?" Feel free to change it if you feel something else might be better. Best, Less Unless (talk) 19:32, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that Miguelina Acosta Cárdenas (pictured) played a key role in the fledgling women's movement in Peru in the early 20th century? Source: [19] Grimes2 (talk) 08:02, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
- fine by me, and better than the original, - open for other suggestions --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:28, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on August 7
Joni Albrecht
- ... that a resolution introduced into the Nebraska Legislature by Joni Albrecht praised Julie Schmit-Albin as "never one to let a public official waffle on pro-life legislation"? Source: "WHEREAS, Julie was never one to let a public official waffle on pro-life legislation, especially if the public official had received a public endorsement from Julie and the Nebraska Right to Life Political Action Committee" source
- Reviewed: Johnny Van Haeften
- Comment: I know this is a bit of a touchy subject, but I think the hook is more about the resolution than coming down on one side or the other.
5x expanded by Theleekycauldron (talk). Self-nominated at 06:55, 10 August 2021 (UTC).
- This article is a fivefold expansion and is new enough and long enough. The hook facts are cited inline, the article is neutral, and I detected no copyright issues. A QPQ has been done. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 19:08, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
The Coloured Women's Club of Montreal
- ... that in 1907, The Coloured Women's Club of Montreal helped found the Union United Church (pictured), the oldest black church in Montreal? Union United, the city’s oldest Black Church founded in 1907, it became apparent there were a number of organized entities that were key to the development of the community. One of these was the CWCM. [20]
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... that The Coloured Women's Club of Montreal was founded in 1902 by seven African-American women whose husbands worked on the railways as sleeping-car porters?
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- Reviewed: Pierre Kaufmann
Created by Whispyhistory (talk), Edwardx (talk), and Philafrenzy (talk). Nominated by Whispyhistory (talk) at 04:22, 14 August 2021 (UTC).
- Comment I'm not a fan of ALT1—If the article is about The Coloured Women's Club of Montreal, the hook shouldn't be focused on their husbands. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 18:55, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
- OK, it's just that the original hook is rather dull. According to North of the Color Line, at their foundation they were the first women's organization in Canada. It seems unlikely in 1902, but if it could be verified, it might make a good hook. Philafrenzy (talk) 22:28, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
- Interesting group that were "key to the development of the community", on good sources, no copyvio obvious. I'm fine with the original, but not keen on the "first" bit, - could we say this "key to the development of the community" thingy instead. - The image is licensed, but not specifically related to the group, and we have many suggestions which would profit more from illustration, if you ask me. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:37, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you @Gerda Arendt:. Leave the image. How about:
- ALT2... that The Coloured Women's Club of Montreal has made significant contributions to Montreal’s Black community? The CWCM is a case example that illustrates the valuable contributions of African-Canadian women working together to provide much needed services for the Black community in Montreal.[21] Whispyhistory (talk) 09:15, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you but that's too drastic a change ;) - I just meant to replace the half sentence about "first black church", because - given 1907 - "first" is no surprise, and "black" could be told from "Couloured". - The prep builder will decide about the image. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:30, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you @Gerda Arendt:...Try again I think...
- ALT3 ... that in 1907, The Coloured Women's Club of Montreal helped found the Union United Church (pictured), key to the development of the community? The CWCM and other groups in the community promoted the Union Congregational Church and it became the focal institution in Montreal’s Black community Whispyhistory (talk) 10:22, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you, but I'd turn it around:
- ALT3a ... that the The Coloured Women's Club of Montreal helped developing the community, for example in co-founding the Union United Church (pictured) in 1907?
- still better wording welcome, of course, and leaving the original in case a prep builder prefers that. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:29, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you but that's too drastic a change ;) - I just meant to replace the half sentence about "first black church", because - given 1907 - "first" is no surprise, and "black" could be told from "Couloured". - The prep builder will decide about the image. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:30, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
- Interesting group that were "key to the development of the community", on good sources, no copyvio obvious. I'm fine with the original, but not keen on the "first" bit, - could we say this "key to the development of the community" thingy instead. - The image is licensed, but not specifically related to the group, and we have many suggestions which would profit more from illustration, if you ask me. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:37, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
- OK, it's just that the original hook is rather dull. According to North of the Color Line, at their foundation they were the first women's organization in Canada. It seems unlikely in 1902, but if it could be verified, it might make a good hook. Philafrenzy (talk) 22:28, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
- Comment I'm not a fan of ALT1—If the article is about The Coloured Women's Club of Montreal, the hook shouldn't be focused on their husbands. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 18:55, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
- The hooks are still all awful. How about:
- ALT4 ... that one of the first activities of The Coloured Women's Club of Montreal was to help veterans returning from the Boer War in South Africa? Philafrenzy (talk) 11:15, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
Charlie Aust
- ... that the last commanding officer of the Rhodesian Light Infantry Charlie Aust (pictured) described himself as "seedy moustache, glasses and intensely ugly" so soldiers knew how to identify him? Source: RLIRA
- Reviewed: 1873–74 Scottish Cup
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The picture is being croppedPlease ignore the picture, don't use it
Created by The C of E (talk). Self-nominated at 08:14, 7 August 2021 (UTC).
- Article is new enough, long enough, adequately sourced, and Earwig comes up empty. I like the hook,
the picture – if it goes through – could perhaps use a clarifying (left), although Aust is obviously in the foreground, so not necessarily a hard requirement for me.Striking, just noticed the comment. Per the provided source, I have corrected the spelling of "intensly" to "intensely" both here and in the article – The C of E, hope you don't mind. AngryHarpytalk 09:07, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
- No, I don't mind. I was copying the quote from the source. It might have been misspelt there but I'm fine with it being corrected @AngryHarpy:. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 10:13, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
- Article is new enough, long enough, adequately sourced, and Earwig comes up empty. I like the hook,
William Trench, 5th Earl of Clancarty
- ... that William Trench, the fifth Earl of Clancarty, had three children who became future earls of Clancarty? Source: Burke's Peerage, Baronetage & Knightage, 107th edition, 1st volume. Page 793.
Created by Capsulecap (talk). Self-nominated at 21:56, 7 August 2021 (UTC).
- Reviewed: Indradi Thanos
- Verified that the article is long enough, that there are no plagiarism concerns through the Copyvios tool and spotchecking, and that the hook is sourced in the article. Cunard (talk) 05:36, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on August 8
One potato, two potato
... that the traditional children's counting-out rhyme "One potato, two potato" has been surpassed in popularity by an extended version called "Coca Cola"? Source: Boy: People have been playing ‘One Potato’ for approximately 200 years, but now it is one of the less known counting games. Children: [Rhyming] One potato, two potato, three potato, four. Five potato, six potato, seven potato, more. Boy: But there is a counting game like ‘One Potato’. It is called ‘Coca Cola’. It is one of the most popular counting games.
Source British Library: https://www.bl.uk/playtimes/videos/counting-out-rhymes-animation
Created by MichaelMaggs (talk). Self-nominated at 16:15, 8 August 2021 (UTC).
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Overall: Article is new enough, long enough, neutral and plagiarism-free. However, I am concerned about the reliability of Mama Lisa's World as it seems to be a blog. Hook is interesting and cited in article. Nominator only has two prior noms so no QPQ needed. Pamzeis (talk) I am not watching this page so please ping me if you want my attention. 08:47, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
- Pamzeis, thanks for the review. Source replaced with the website of Scottish Book Trust. MichaelMaggs (talk) MichaelMaggs (talk) 10:02, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you. Good to go Pamzeis (talk) 11:45, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
- MichaelMaggs, Pamzeis, I'm not convinced that the main fact in the hook, that "one potato, two potato" has been surpassed in popularity, is adequately supported. A video, even by the British library, has little context: is this true in the local area? In the entire UK? In the English-speaking world (including the United States)? Without proper context, such a broad claim requires more article and source specifics. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:43, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
- BlueMoonset, I see what you mean. Ideally it would be good to restrict to a particular area, or time period, but the source doesn't support anything like that. Perhaps something very specific would work (2010 being the date of the BL page; we don't of course know if the situation has changed since then):
Alt1 ... that by 2010 some children were reporting that the traditional counting-out rhyme "One potato, two potato" had been surpassed in popularity by an extended version called "Coca Cola"?
- MichaelMaggs (talk) 16:32, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for the alt, but I still think BlueMoonset's concerns apply. While hooks can be vague, I'd think that the reader would expect more information at the page, which does not appear to be present here. Could you either be more specific on the popularity or offer an alt? Thank you. Pamzeis (talk) 06:20, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
- Pamzeis, I believe that the alt I've suggested deals with the issue BlueMoonset raised. Genuinely unclear to me how I can be "specific on the popularity"; the hook is now very narrow and is fully supported by the source. MichaelMaggs (talk) 07:18, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
- MichaelMaggs, from my perspective the problem is that the ALT hook says very little now, which is also a problem in the article. "Some children" is effectively meaningless: how would they know anything beyond their group of friends, or their classes, or maybe their school? And in this case, having watched the very short video, it sounds to me like they're reading a script, so I don't think you can safely use "some children were reporting" or safely ascribe this assertion to children at all. The problem here is that the British Library has given very little detail in their video and left a lot of questions as to their popularity claim. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:23, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
- BlueMoonset, Pamzeis, if we can't even hang a narrow hook on the BL source, maybe it would be safer to go with something something different, such as
- * Alt2 ... that the first record of the traditional children's counting-out rhyme "One potato, two potato" comes from Nova Scotia, Canada?
- MichaelMaggs (talk) 14:48, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
- BlueMoonset, Pamzeis, if we can't even hang a narrow hook on the BL source, maybe it would be safer to go with something something different, such as
- MichaelMaggs, from my perspective the problem is that the ALT hook says very little now, which is also a problem in the article. "Some children" is effectively meaningless: how would they know anything beyond their group of friends, or their classes, or maybe their school? And in this case, having watched the very short video, it sounds to me like they're reading a script, so I don't think you can safely use "some children were reporting" or safely ascribe this assertion to children at all. The problem here is that the British Library has given very little detail in their video and left a lot of questions as to their popularity claim. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:23, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
- Pamzeis, I believe that the alt I've suggested deals with the issue BlueMoonset raised. Genuinely unclear to me how I can be "specific on the popularity"; the hook is now very narrow and is fully supported by the source. MichaelMaggs (talk) 07:18, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for the alt, but I still think BlueMoonset's concerns apply. While hooks can be vague, I'd think that the reader would expect more information at the page, which does not appear to be present here. Could you either be more specific on the popularity or offer an alt? Thank you. Pamzeis (talk) 06:20, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
- BlueMoonset, I see what you mean. Ideally it would be good to restrict to a particular area, or time period, but the source doesn't support anything like that. Perhaps something very specific would work (2010 being the date of the BL page; we don't of course know if the situation has changed since then):
- Thank you. Good to go Pamzeis (talk) 11:45, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
Sorry for the late reply, I've been a bit distracted lately. I can't tell if the fact is mentioned in the article or not because the article states it "there seems to be no record earlier than 1885, when it was noted in Nova Scotia, Canada.
" (emphasis mine) I don't understand whether the rhyme was written or noticed (the (seemingly) two applicable verb definitions of "note" here). If it's written, then the article is (probably) good to go; if not, we might need another alternative. Could you clarify? Thanks. Pamzeis (talk) 08:56, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
- Pamzeis, "Noted" means "recorded in writing". It's a common usage for folklore historians who can very seldom say exactly when a particular rhyme was invented and first used orally. All they can say is when it was first noted, ie first recorded in a written document. Maybe this will make it explicit:
- * Alt3 ... that the first written record of the traditional children's counting-out rhyme "One potato, two potato" was in 1885 in Nova Scotia, Canada?
- MichaelMaggs (talk) 10:15, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
- ALT2 and 3 fine by me! AGFing on offline sources. Pamzeis (talk) 10:22, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
- Many thanks. If both are acceptable, my personal preference would be for Alt3. MichaelMaggs (talk) 10:30, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
- ALT2 and 3 fine by me! AGFing on offline sources. Pamzeis (talk) 10:22, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on August 9
Linda Watson (soprano)
- ... that Linda Watson, a dramatic soprano born in San Francisco who made a career in Europe, is proud of a Grammy nomination for Wagner's Ring cycle with her as Brünnhilde? Source: [22]
- Reviewed:
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Created by LouisAlain (talk), and Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 13:11, 16 August 2021 (UTC).
- Article is long enough, suitably cited, and although I'm checking German sources using a machine translation it doesn't seem like there's any issue with close paraphrasing. However, it doesn't seem like the hook fact is actually present--there is cited mention of the Grammy nomination in bullets at the end, but no mention in prose of being proud of it or even of the nomination. Could we get a direct mention of it just to satisfy that requirement? QPQ also pending but that's just a matter of time. Gʀᴀᴘᴘʟᴇ ˣ 21:31, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, good catch. I hope tomorrow, it's in an interview, but I'm busy with a Recent death article not quite ready, and another one waiting. Nice to see your name! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:39, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
- I reviewed now Template:Did you know nominations/Distance education in Chicago Public Schools in 1937. First step. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:19, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
- Gʀᴀᴘᴘʟᴇ X, I added a bit. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:36, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
- Article is long enough, suitably cited, and although I'm checking German sources using a machine translation it doesn't seem like there's any issue with close paraphrasing. However, it doesn't seem like the hook fact is actually present--there is cited mention of the Grammy nomination in bullets at the end, but no mention in prose of being proud of it or even of the nomination. Could we get a direct mention of it just to satisfy that requirement? QPQ also pending but that's just a matter of time. Gʀᴀᴘᴘʟᴇ ˣ 21:31, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
Iulia Maria Dan
- ... that the Romanian soprano Iulia Maria Dan was Hamlet's Ophelia in the Bregenz Festival's revival of Franco Faccio's revived opera Amleto? Source: several
- Reviewed:
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Created by LouisAlain (talk) and Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 10:20, 16 August 2021 (UTC).
- This article is new enough and long enough. The hook facts are cited inline, the article is neutral, and I detected no copyright issues. Awaiting a QPQ. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 08:59, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
- I reviewed now Template:Did you know nominations/English invasion of Scotland (1650) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:02, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you. Good to go. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:23, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
- This article is new enough and long enough. The hook facts are cited inline, the article is neutral, and I detected no copyright issues. Awaiting a QPQ. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 08:59, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
Julie Schmit-Albin
- ... that Julie Schmit-Albin was so influential in Nebraskan politics that the Lincoln Journal Star wrote an article entitled "Check with Schmit-Albin if you want to win?" source
- ALT1:... that Julie Schmit-Albin was so influential in Nebraskan politics that a local operative told a newspaper that "Anyone who runs for public office without touching base with her does so at their peril"? "Anyone who runs for public office without touching base with her does so at their peril," W. Don Nelson, former state director for U.S. Sen. Ben Nelson, said in 2007.
- ALT2:... that Julie Schmit-Albin was awarded the title of Nebraska Admiral for her work as a pro-life activist? "Gov. Pete Ricketts recently recognized Schmit-Albin’s contributions by awarding her an honorary admiralship. " source
- ALT2a:... that Julie Schmit-Albin was awarded the title of Nebraska Admiral by Pete Ricketts, the Governor of Nebraska, for her work as a pro-life activist?
- Reviewed: Prime Minister of Zambia
Created by Theleekycauldron (talk). Self-nominated at 06:49, 10 August 2021 (UTC).
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Overall: Article is new enough, long enough and no copyvio on Earwig. All of the hooks are cited and interesting. Article appears neutral and well sourced. qpq is done so this one's ready. BuySomeApples (talk) 00:59, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on August 10
Joachim Werzlau
- ... that Joachim Werzlau composed the music for the DEFA films Naked Among Wolves and Jacob the Liar? Source: [23]
- Reviewed: to come
Created by LouisAlain (talk) and Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 20:32, 17 August 2021 (UTC).
- Article is new, long enough and neutral. It cites sources inline, except the last sentence of § #1 and the last sentence of § #3 under the section "After World War II". "Earwig's Copyvio Detector" reports insignificant text similarities only. The hook is well-formatted and interesting. Its length is within limit. Its fact is accurate with inline citation. Approval will follow after the a.m. issues are addressed. CeeGee 10:44, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you for the review! I worked on the sources, adding one, using another more (NP stands for National Prize, I had overlooked that). I reviewed Template:Did you know nominations/Rukhshana Media. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:52, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
- The last sentence of § #1 lacks still a citation. CeeGee 11:20, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
- I have no time to search until next week. Commented out that non-crucial sentence to not hold you up. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:46, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
- Dear Gerda Arendt, if you have no time, and the mentioned sentence is not critical, maybe you can simply remove it. CeeGee 06:11, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
- I commented it out, because I (or someone else, always this hope!) might source it and return it. I guess it's true, translated from the German Wikipedia. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:18, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
- It's not. It's still there. Please check your edit. CeeGee 06:52, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
- I am sorry. (Feeling ashamed.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:17, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
- It's not. It's still there. Please check your edit. CeeGee 06:52, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
- I commented it out, because I (or someone else, always this hope!) might source it and return it. I guess it's true, translated from the German Wikipedia. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:18, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
- Dear Gerda Arendt, if you have no time, and the mentioned sentence is not critical, maybe you can simply remove it. CeeGee 06:11, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
- I have no time to search until next week. Commented out that non-crucial sentence to not hold you up. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:46, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
- The last sentence of § #1 lacks still a citation. CeeGee 11:20, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you for the review! I worked on the sources, adding one, using another more (NP stands for National Prize, I had overlooked that). I reviewed Template:Did you know nominations/Rukhshana Media. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:52, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
- No need for that feeling. Such things happen to all of us. QPQ was provided later. Hook fact is cited in foreign language, for which I AGF. Everything is fine now. Good to go. CeeGee 09:13, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
- Article is new, long enough and neutral. It cites sources inline, except the last sentence of § #1 and the last sentence of § #3 under the section "After World War II". "Earwig's Copyvio Detector" reports insignificant text similarities only. The hook is well-formatted and interesting. Its length is within limit. Its fact is accurate with inline citation. Approval will follow after the a.m. issues are addressed. CeeGee 10:44, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
Naga Thein Hlaing
- ... that since he was able to cure goitre, which local shamans could not do, Naga Thein Hlaing (pictured) was recognized by the Naga people as Naga Nat and was worshiped as a deity? Source: "၂၀၂၁ မြန်မာ စစ်အာဏာသိမ်း - ဆရာဝန်ကြီး ဒေါက်တာ နာဂသိန်းလှိုင် ကွယ်လွန်". BBC News မြန်မာ (in Burmese). Retrieved 10 August 2021.
- ALT1:... that Naga Thein Hlaing (pictured) is a protagonist in the 2016 novel The Sweet Honey Drop on the Sharp Scalpel Blade which won the Myanmar National Literature Award For Fiction in 2017? Source: "အနစ်နာခံတဲ့ ဆရာ၀န်အကြောင်း ဝတ္ထုရှည် စာပေဆု ဆွတ်ခူး ဆွတ်ခူး". BBC News မြန်မာ (in Burmese). Retrieved 10 August 2021.
- ALT2:... that without adequate surgical instruments, Naga Thein Hlaing (pictured) operated to alleviate thyroid disease in the Naga Hills, performing surgery even under trees or outside huts? Source: "The Naga patient". The Myanmar Times. 19 January 2018. Retrieved 10 August 2021.
- Reviewed: This is my second DYK, so I think it's exempt from QPQ.
Created by Htanaungg (talk). Self-nominated at 12:22, 12 August 2021 (UTC).
- @Htanaungg: Article has appeared as a bolded article on In the news previously, which is disqualifying for new articles at DYK. See rule M5 at Wikipedia:Did you know/Onepage. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 05:14, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
- Theleekycauldron, ohh. I assumed RD is not bolded. Htanaungg (talk) 05:19, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Htanaungg: hang on a minute... theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 05:20, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Htanaungg: I think the DYKCheck program saw the "in the news" template on the article's talk page and thought it was featured, ignoring recent deaths. I'll continue with the review as if it weren't featured, that doesn't count. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 05:25, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
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Overall: @Htanaungg: Burmese citations accepted in good faith. All hooks look good, QPQ not needed. We're good to go! Sorry for the earlier confusion, I left something on the talk page of DYKcheck. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 05:45, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
George McCubbin
- ... that less than four months after getting his aviator's certificate in 1916 18-year-old George McCubbin (pictured) piloted the aircraft that shot down German ace Max Immelmann? "gaining his aviator's certificate in March that year at the age of 18" from: Bowman, Martin W. (30 August 2017). Escaping Soldiers and Airmen of World War I. Casemate Publishers. p. 142. ISBN 978-1-4738-6324-8. "on June 18th one of our F.E. aeroplanes whilst patrolling over Annay, at about 9 p.m., attacked three Fokkers ... Extracts from the German newspapers relating to the death of Lieutenant Immelmann make it clear that the pilot received his death as outlined above" from: Turner, Charles Cyril (1919). The struggle in the air, 1914-1918. London : E. Arnold. pp. 66–67.
ALT1: ... that 18-year-old George McCubbin (pictured) piloted the aircraft that shot down German ace Max Immelmann in 1916? Sources as above
Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Self-nominated at 08:23, 10 August 2021 (UTC).
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Overall: Great article about an interesting, and clearly very able, individual. Both hooks are interesting with a preference for Alt 0, I cannot read the Bowman source but the Turner source clearly states what is said above, AGF. Earwig shows the closest is a 5.7% match to espn.co.uk. This picture is appropriate as it is taken of the individual recovering from the injuries sustained in the action covered in both hooks. Cavalryman (talk) 04:15, 11 August 2021 (UTC).
452 Fifth Avenue
- ... that the HSBC Tower (pictured) was the largest structure to be constructed in its vicinity since the Empire State Building fifty years earlier? Source: Horsley, Carter B. (August 16, 1981). "New Tower for Republic National Bank". The New York Times.
- ALT1:... that construction of the HSBC Tower (pictured) involved curving the tower around one historic building and destroying the facade of another? Source: Greer, William R. (March 7, 1982). "A New Style Making Its Mark". The New York Times. Shepard, Joan (February 15, 1985). "Landmark-eligible facade lost". New York Daily News. p. 160.
- ALT2:... that while 452 Fifth Avenue (pictured) was being developed, several buildings on the site continued to operate because their banking operations couldn't be halted? Source: Greer, William R. (March 7, 1982). "A New Style Making Its Mark". The New York Times.
- ALT3:... that the Knox Building was described as one of the "chief features" of New York City's Fifth Avenue just six months after its completion? Source: "Women's and Men's Hats: a New Departure Which Meets With Favor". New-York Tribune. March 29, 1903. p. 33
- ALT4:... that the owners of the Knox Building initially opposed preserving it as a historic landmark, despite designing their new tower around the older structure? Source: Chadwick, Bruce (September 22, 1981). "Bank headquarters slated for Fifth Ave". New York Daily News. p. 98.
- Reviewed: Polhillick Bridge
- Comment: more hooks later
5x expanded by Epicgenius (talk). Self-nominated at 18:20, 10 August 2021 (UTC).
- Another fine Epicgenius expansion, no copyvio concerns, main hook is interesting (as in I read it and said "gosh, I didn't know that") and appropriately cited to the New York Times. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 22:30, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on August 11
- ... that Francis Drake did not allow retribution against the indigenous Patagonian inhabitants after they killed two of Drake's crewmen? Source: John Sugden (2006). Francis Drake. pp. 107-114.
- ALT1:... that after Thomas Doughty is sentenced to death by Francis Drake, the two men dine and receive communion together just before Doughty's execution? Source: John Sugden (2006). Francis Drake. pp. 107-114.
- ALT2:... that Francis Drake excommunicated his fleet's chaplain Francis Fletcher, chained him to a hatch, and hung a sign on him: "Frances fletcher, ye falseth knave that liveth"? Source: John Sugden (2006). Francis Drake. p. 141.
- Comment: I have four past successful DYK nominations
Created by Hu Nhu (talk). Self-nominated at 20:34, 16 August 2021 (UTC).
- The article is new, referenced, long enough (very long enough, even if it is in a list format, the intro has lots of prose). AGF on the hook and the paraphrasing since the source is an offline one (a book). I'd go with the first hook. QPQ not yet required since the author has under 5 DYKs. Good to go. Tone 10:03, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
Johannes Schott, Martin Schott
- ... that Johannes Schott of Strasbourg took over the printing company of his father Martin Schott around 1500, and printed texts by Protestant reformers such as Ulrich von Hutten and Martin Luther? Source: [24] (1500), [25] (von Hutten), [26] (Luther)
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Bernd Jeffré, Template:Did you know nominations/Hanan Awwad, Template:Did you know nominations/32nd anniversary of the 1989 Tiananmen Square protests (the latter two are not full reviews, but I figured two halves count for one whole).
Created by Drmies (talk). Self-nominated at 18:47, 13 August 2021 (UTC).
- No relation to the music publisher. Joofjoof (talk) 07:48, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
- Interesting articles on great sources, no copyvio obvious. So far I looked only at the son, but will do the other also. I like the article a lot, but think the lead could - besides avoiding a repetition of "also" - say more clearly that he not only printed but had close contact with the authors. I think a hook saying so would be more interesting. Perhaps we might split the DYK in father and son. Just an idea, but I need food before looking at the father :) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:46, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
- I now also looked at the father, on few but good sources (and no more to expected given the era), and I can read the German. No copvio obvious. So: I'd still suggest to split this in two noms, with the image used for the father, an unusual and clear image worth showing. In Martin's article, I'd summarise his son's work a bit more than just saying he was likewise a printer, - just a suggestion. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:32, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
- What do you think, Drmies? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:05, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
- Gerda Arendt, I appreciate it, but I'm fine with the double--I really don't want to put more work into it, and I really only wrote these because I was working on a book printed by Schott (the elder). Thanks, Drmies (talk) 00:40, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
- as you wish. If I had extra time, I'd do it (tell the millions on the Main page that Johannes had good relations to the humanists, not only the hundreds who will click and read it in the lead), but I have to do 3 noms today or too late, and countless qpq. It's just that reformation featured prominently on my user page, as a work in progress. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:08, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
- Gerda Arendt, I appreciate it, but I'm fine with the double--I really don't want to put more work into it, and I really only wrote these because I was working on a book printed by Schott (the elder). Thanks, Drmies (talk) 00:40, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
Victor Jacques
- ... that British Brigadier Victor Jaques was almost killed by friendly fire from an American aircraft in Bangkok in 1945? "at least one round from a P-38 hit less than 10ft from Brigadier Hector a "British liaison officer"... Brigadier Hector apparently was a code name for Brigadier Victor Jacques" from page 19 of: Bergin, Bob (December 2011). "OSS and Free Thai Operations in World War II". Studies in Intelligence. 55 (4).
- ALT1:... that British Brigadier Victor Jaques travelled in and out of Japanese-occupied Thailand several times in 1945 as part of his work for the Special Operations Executive? Reynolds p320 describes Jacques' first trip to Thailand for Force 136, p336 his return on 1 June and p376 his return in mid-August: Reynolds, E. Bruce (6 January 2005). Thailand's Secret War: OSS, SOE and the Free Thai Underground during World War II. Cambridge University Press. ISBN 978-1-139-44259-6.
- ALT2: ... that in early 1945 the 6 foot 4 inch (1.93m) tall Brigadier Victor Jaques drove round the streets of Thailand wearing his British Army uniform without being accosted by its Japanese garrison?"Victor Jaques was able to drive round the streets of the Thai capital wearing British uniform, while it was still under Japanese occupation" from: page 174 of: Gooch, John (12 November 2012). Decisive Campaigns of the Second World War. Routledge. ISBN 978-1-136-28888-3. and "Jacques ... 6 feet 4 inches tall" from page 150 of: *Jones, Jones Clive (21 May 2019). Clandestine Lives of Colonel David Smiley: Code Name 'Grin'. Edinburgh University Press. ISBN 978-1-4744-4117-9.
Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Self-nominated at 17:49, 11 August 2021 (UTC).
- New article that was moved to mainspace on 11 August 2021 is 14,548 characters and nominated on the same day. No copyvios detected and duplication detector of main sources[27][28] reveal no close paraphrasing issues (AGF scanned refs which can't go through Dup detector). Article is well-sourced. Main hook is 117 characters long (ALT1 is 167; ALT2 is 191); all three are under 200 character max. and are interesting. Refs that verifying main hook, ALT1, and ALT2 are reliable sources. QPQ done. Looks good to go! —Bloom6132 (talk) 05:43, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
Coral Bell
... that Henry Kissinger wrote that "the Australian scholar Coral Bell has brilliantly described America's challenge: to recognise its own pre-eminence but to conduct its policy as if it were still living in a world of many centres of power"? Source: [29] page 22
Created by Michael D. Turnbull (talk). Self-nominated at 11:19, 12 August 2021 (UTC).
- – @Michael D. Turnbull – The article is new enough (moved from Draft:Coral Bell on August 11, 2021) and long enough (4158 characters). It has inline citations, and Earwig's copyvio detector detects 17.4% similarity (violation unlikely). However, the hook is 238 characters long. The maximum limit on hook's length in 200 characters. The hook is cited in the nomination as well as in the article, but I doubt whether it is interesting to a broad audience. I'll suggest to add some ALT hooks. Thanks for nominating the article. – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 15:48, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
- Doh! I was aware of the limit on hook length but used MS Word to do the character count. It turns out that its "number of characters" field excludes spaces! I don't think that my original hook is salvageable (except by removing everything after the colon). ALT1 looks good, thanks, DragonflySixtyseven and I'll add ALT2. Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:35, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that Coral Bell described the United States–China relations as a "shadow condominium", in that they collaborate during times of crisis but are adversaries otherwise? DS (talk) 15:58, 14 August 2021 (UTC) Source:1
- ALT2: ... that in 1947 Ric Throssell tried unsuccessfully to recruit Coral Bell as a Soviet spy in Canberra? Source: [30] page 13
- – The issues are now addressed. QPQ is not required. ALT 1 and 2 are approved. Good to go. Thanks! – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 16:54, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on August 12
Wayward Son (novel)
- ... that Any Way The Wind Blows is Wayward Son's sequel?
- ALT1:... that Wayward Son is Rainbow Rowell's fourth young adult novel?
Created/expanded by Madeleinerberry (talk). Self-nominated at 17:40, 12 August 2021 (UTC).
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- Adequate sourcing: - I think there's some unsourced analysis in the section covering the characters. See WP:OR–Try to pull analysis from secondary sources, instead of interpreting the book on your own.
- Neutral:
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
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Overall: We're not quite ready for DYK, but I wouldn't give up just yet–let's see if we can't clean up the section on the characters and improve the hook, and then we'll be good to go! theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 19:40, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
- oops, i have to ping people? @Madeleinerberry: theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 01:14, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
- ALTs suggested by nominator (originals kept for posterity):
- ALT2: ... that Wayward Son's protagonist, Simon Snow, has red dragon wings and a cartoon devil tail?
- ALT3: ... that Wayward Son was nominated for a Goodreads Choice Award for Young Adult Fantasy and Science Fiction in 2019?
- theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 03:55, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
- Both ALT2 and ALT3 are sufficiently interesting, but may I suggest one more? Totally up to you whether you want to use it:
- ALT4: That in Wayward Son, the group kills a handful of vampires at a renaissance faire in Nebraska?
- theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 04:01, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
- could someone weigh in on what kind of sourcing the article needs? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 05:08, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
- I'd be happy to help, but I'm not familiar with writing about novels on Wikipedia. Perhaps someone from WikiProject Novels could offer guidance? Michael Barera (talk) 05:06, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
- Comment: (pinging participants: Theleekycauldron and Madeleinerberry) as a regular from WP:YA, the sourcing seems fine, since plot and characters section usually only ask for sourcing for direct quotes and contentious material. I edited the reception section to remove an unsourced affirmation, and the third paragraph is also potentially unsourced, so I'd recommend ditching it. Aside from that, no big worries about WP:RS. Hope this helps. Isabelle 🔔 03:40, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
@Isabelle Belato: thank you so much! Since we're in the clear on that, I'll approve ALT3. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 03:47, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
Lego Masters (French TV series)
- ... that the world record for the greatest weight supported by a brick bridge was broken on the French version of Lego Masters? Source: 1 and 2
- ALT1:... that on the French version of Lego Masters the world record for the greatest weight supported by a brick bridge was broken? Source: 1 and 2
Created by Sahaib3005 (talk). Self-nominated at 08:00, 12 August 2021 (UTC).
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Overall: Article is new enough, neutral and plagiarism-free. However, it is currently too short (around 100 characters short of the minimum requirement) and I have concerns about the reliability of many of the article's sources, including BrickFanatics, Telepro, Brick Banter, Twenty Minutes, Betaseries and PureMédias. Hook is interesting and cited in article, though I think it would be more hooky if "surpassed" was replaced by "broken". QPQ not needed. Pamzeis (talk) I am not watching this article so please ping me if you want my attention. 09:49, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Pamzeis:, I have improved the article. Sahaib3005 (talk) 21:55, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
I have removed Brick Banter and BrickFanatics, I’m not sure how reliable the French sources are. Sahaib3005 (talk) 06:53, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
- Sorry for the late reply! Ping me in the future, BTW, because I don't watch DYKNs I've reviewed. I'll continue this review in a bit but I'm gonna have a look at the sources again. Please ping me if I don't reply by the end of Sunday! Pamzeis (talk) 07:40, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
- Going through the sources:
- 20 Minutes: Seems fine, no evidence of unreliability
- programme-tv.net: ditto
- larep: ditto
- lanouvellerepublique: ditto
- Telerama: ditto
- PureMedias: ditto
- TV Magazine
- Telestar: I don't see any evidence of editorial staff, may need to be removed
- Le Parisian: seems fine
- Telepro: I don't see any evidence of editorial staff, may need to be removed
- Tekdeeks: seems fine
- Archyde: ditto
- Betaseries: ditto
- Stars actu: the authors don't seems to be professionals... might have to be removed
- Format: seems fine
- That's all of the sources from me. Some might have to be removed. Ping me when you've replied! Pamzeis (talk) 05:39, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Pamzeis:, done Sahaib3005 (talk) 18:14, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
American Radiator Building
- ... that Raymond Hood designed the American Radiator Building (pictured) with a black-and-gold facade because he thought other buildings' windows looked like waffles? Source: "Black Brick Building for New York City: Daring Departure From the Conventional in American Radiator Company's New Structure". The New York Times. January 20, 1924. p. RE1.
- ALT1:... that at night, the gold roof of the American Radiator Building (pictured) was lit up to signify a hot radiator? Source: Bagli, Charles V. (January 3, 2003). "Associated Press to Move From Rockefeller Center". The New York Times. Technically the roof is gold-colored, not really actual gold.
- ALT2:... that the American Radiator Building (pictured) was described by one critic as being "like jazz and the Ku Klux, hard to place"? Source: Johns, Orrick (October 4, 1925). "What the Modish Building Will Wear; Architecture Follows the Changing Styles of Couturiere and Tailor, Reflecting Period That Produced It" (PDF). The New York Times. p. SM11.
- ALT3:... that the roof design of the American Radiator Building (pictured) was not finalized until most of the steel structure had been built? Source: Hood, Raymond M. (November 19, 1924). "The American Radiator Company Building, New York". American Architect & Building News. 126 (2459): 470.
5x expanded by Epicgenius (talk). Self-nominated at 21:01, 12 August 2021 (UTC).
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Overall: Article is new enough, long enough, and well sourced. Assuming good faith on paywalled/print sources, the hooks look interesting. No copyvio detected on Earwig, and picture meets all requirements (free, looks nice, in article). The only thing missing is the qpq. BuySomeApples (talk) 01:59, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Epicgenius: I've gotta say I love the photo on this one, very dramatic! BuySomeApples (talk) 02:03, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
- @BuySomeApples: Thanks for the review, I really appreciate it. Yeah, it's a pretty distinctive building, so it's hard to miss; it's a shame that the tower is so short. I've done a QPQ now. Epicgenius (talk) 16:06, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks! This one's ready now. BuySomeApples (talk) 21:42, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
- @BuySomeApples: Thanks for the review, I really appreciate it. Yeah, it's a pretty distinctive building, so it's hard to miss; it's a shame that the tower is so short. I've done a QPQ now. Epicgenius (talk) 16:06, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
UEFA Euro 1996 Final
- ... that Germany's players sang "Three Lions" after winning the UEFA Euro 1996 Final?
5x expanded by The Rambling Man (talk). Self-nominated at 11:49, 13 August 2021 (UTC).
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Overall: Article is 5x expanded since 12 Aug, long enough, adequately referenced, QPQ done. Nothing picked up on copyvio search (only the quotations, which are clearly marked). I spotted a sentence that had gone a bit awry with typos but I have fixed that. The hook is amusing (I did wonder whether it might be worth a brief descriptor of what 'Three Lions' is, but takes away from the conciseness and I'm also not a massive football fan and I "got" it, so I think I was overthinking things). So, I'd say good to go! Chocmilk03 (talk) 09:20, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
Nova Iriansyah
- ... that Nova Iriansyah, governor of Aceh, was expelled from elementary school as a child? Source: "Dia bersekolah seperti biasa sampai kelas 4 atau kelas 5, lalu pindah setelah dikeluarkan dari sekolah. Dia anak pintar, tapi kerap nakal membantah guru."
- Reviewed: Ng Yu Zhi
- Comment: .
Created by Juxlos (talk). Self-nominated at 09:33, 13 August 2021 (UTC).
- Article is new enough and long enough. It's written in a neutral tone, with proper inline citations, and I could find no evidence of close paraphrasing, copyright violations or plagiarism, at least not in English. The hook is short, interesting, accurate and inline cited in the article. Since the fact is well known and was volunteered by the person himself as an anecdote in interview, I don't think this can be seen as focusing unduly on a negative aspect. QPQ done. A very good image is available at File:Gubernur Aceh, Nova Iriansyah.png and I'm not aure why it was not suggested, but as it is, this is good to go. --Muhandes (talk) 12:06, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
Geistliches Lied
- ... that the opening of the Geistliches Lied by Johannes Brahms possibly references Clara Schumann's fantasy of playing her husband's music on the organ? Source: Swafford 1997, p. 157
- Reviewed: Vera Schoenenberg
Created by GeneralPoxter (talk). Self-nominated at 03:37, 13 August 2021 (UTC).
- Article is new enough and plenty long enough, and properly cited. The online Swafford, Oxford Lieder and Geiringer sources (and the Brahms) check out. The hook is usable as it is, but given that Clara was Brahms's love interest, perhaps someone can think of a spicier hook. Chiswick Chap (talk) 12:49, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for the suggestion, but I haven't found anything in my sources explicitly linking this work to the Brahms-Clara love relationship. Rather, Donat suggests it was to console Clara during her husband's illness. GeneralPoxter (talk • contribs) 14:47, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for reply; it's absolutely fine as it is. Chiswick Chap (talk) 15:05, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for the suggestion, but I haven't found anything in my sources explicitly linking this work to the Brahms-Clara love relationship. Rather, Donat suggests it was to console Clara during her husband's illness. GeneralPoxter (talk • contribs) 14:47, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
- Article is new enough and plenty long enough, and properly cited. The online Swafford, Oxford Lieder and Geiringer sources (and the Brahms) check out. The hook is usable as it is, but given that Clara was Brahms's love interest, perhaps someone can think of a spicier hook. Chiswick Chap (talk) 12:49, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on August 13
Omas gegen Rechts
... that Omas gegen Rechts (Grannies Against the Right), a protest initiative (banners in Vienna pictured) founded in Austria in 2017 and in Germany in 2018, were awarded a prize for civil courage by the Central Council of Jews in Germany?Source: [31]
- Reviewed:
to come - Comment: I know that the hook is too long, but don't know what to cut, and how.
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Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 16:38, 20 August 2021 (UTC).
- ALT0a: ... that Omas gegen Rechts (Grannies against the Right), a protest initiative (banners in Vienna pictured), were awarded a prize for civil courage by the Central Council of Jews in Germany? Grimes2 (talk) 17:26, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
- ALT1: ...that Omas gegen Rechts (Grannies Against the Right) (banners pictured), founded Vienna, 2017, received a prize for civil courage from the Central Council of Jews in Germany? Source: [32]
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Overall: New and neutral, right length (article could use a little more volume, but the material to do that is present), each para. and key hook facts sourced, Earwig-OK, hook is solid - the most "hooky" point is the "Granny" concept, and that's there, along with one prize - I think that's the main points extracted at this stage in article development. Image seems clear at 100 px. Hook length was a concern, but there's one alt from Grimes2, and I offer another - the original hook does not pass. So for Alt 0a or Alt1, once QPQ is in, ready to go. SeoR (talk) 18:56, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you. I reviewed now Template:Did you know nominations/List of songs recorded by Chuck Mosley. Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:06, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
Memorandum on Genuine Autonomy
- ... that the Dalai Lama's middle way approach sought genuine autonomy rather than independence for Tibet? Source: the Dalai Lama long ago conceded claims for independence in favour of autonomy under his "middle way" approach; "The essence of the Middle Way Approach is to secure genuine autonomy for the Tibetan people within the scope of the Constitution of the PRC... We remain firmly committed not to seek separation or independence."
Created by DiplomatTesterMan (talk). Self-nominated at 03:22, 16 August 2021 (UTC).
- New (3 days from creation to nomination); long enough; no sign of copyvio (there was one list of items where the role of quotation marks was difficult to decide; I added the quotation marks); generally follows Wikipedia policy. I smoothed out a bit of the English. However, the hook is not justified literally, since finding a source that can objectively decide when autonomy is "genuine" or not, and whether or not the Dalai Lama's approach was really seeking that or not, is a matter of judgment.I propose ALT1. The aim is to focus on the document itself - the Memorandum - rather than on what the Dalai Lama's intentions were or whether the autonomy would have been genuine or not. I also inserted full as a redundant adjective to reduce the chance of misunderstanding of what counts as autonomy and what counts as independence. Would ALT1 (or a new ALT2 or ALT3...) be acceptable? Boud (talk) 03:14, 18 August 2021 (UTC) I forgot to mention: QPQ - yes. Boud (talk) 03:25, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that the Dalai Lama's 2008 Memorandum on Genuine Autonomy was a specific proposal aiming for autonomy rather than full independence for Tibet? Boud (talk) 03:15, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
National Museum of Vanuatu
- ... that when the National Museum of Vanuatu opened its new building in 1995, specially selected pigs were sacrificed? Source: Huffman, Kirk W. “‘Up and Over’: The Opening of the Vanuatu Cultural Centre Complex's New National Museum Building.” Pacific Arts, no. 13/14, 1996, pp. 48. JSTOR, www.jstor.org/stable/23409779.
5x expanded by Lajmmoore (talk). Self-nominated at 07:54, 14 August 2021 (UTC).
- Sufficiently expanded and well-sourced article. QPQ is done, and there is no copyvio threat. The hook is also catchy, in-line sourced, and I would accept it in AGF. The image also passes qualifications. However, I have to request a clarification: The hook says that "specially selected pigs" (plural) were sacrificed, whereas the article only talks about "a specially selected pig" (singular). Which is correct? Applodion (talk) 21:02, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
- You're right Applodion it's singular - my poor memory! The revised hook would then be
- Alt1 ... that when the National Museum of Vanuatu opened its new building in 1995, a specially selected pig was sacrificed? Source: Huffman, Kirk W. “‘Up and Over’: The Opening of the Vanuatu Cultural Centre Complex's New National Museum Building.” Pacific Arts, no. 13/14, 1996, pp. 48. JSTOR, www.jstor.org/stable/23409779.
- Thanks Lajmmoore (talk) 15:49, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
2008 World Snooker Championship
- ... that both finalists at the 2008 World Snooker Championship made maximum breaks in the tournament? Source: https://www.rte.ie/sport/snooker/2008/0430/231184-worldchampionship/
Created by Lee Vilenski (talk). Self-nominated at 12:36, 13 August 2021 (UTC).
- Hi Lee Vilenski, review follows: more than 5x expansion from 10 August (the earlier version of the article consisted almost entirely of tables and bullet points which I have not counted as prose); hook fact is interesting (and unusual), mentioned in the article and checks out to the sources cited; I found no issues with overly close paraphrasing in a spotcheck on sources; just waiting for a QPQ and this will be good to run - Dumelow (talk) 13:13, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
- Pinging @Dumelow – just to inform that a QPQ has been provided by the nominator. – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 15:10, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
- Thankyou Kavyansh.Singh. To confirm Lee Vilenski, this one is now approved - Dumelow (talk) 15:13, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
Jonathan Carr (property developer)
... that Jonathan Carr (pictured) held the record for bankruptcy petitions? Source: "He was the subject of a record 342 bankruptcy petitions."- ALT1:... that Jonathan Carr's (pictured) 342 bankruptcy petitions set a record? Source: "He was the subject of a record 342 bankruptcy petitions."
5x expanded by Chiswick Chap (talk). Self-nominated at 12:59, 13 August 2021 (UTC).
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Overall: Article is new enough, long enough, well-sourced, neutral and plagiarism-free. Hook is cited and interesting. However, I have a question: does he still hold the record? The article suggests he does but the hook says otherwise. I also think it might be hookier if we mention the amount of petitions he had. Picture is free, used and clear. QPQ has been done. Pamzeis (talk) I am not watching this page so please ping me if you want my attention. 15:40, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
- OK, added the number. I'd not want to get into whether anyone has recently broken the record (unlikely, but hard to verify a negative), the claim is that he set a record, so said that in ALT1. Chiswick Chap (talk) 15:49, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
Maungwudaus
... that a painting of Maungwudaus (pictured), an Ojibwe performer and herbalist, is the "second-most valuable artwork" in Canada?
- Reviewed: 1991 Zaire unrest
- Comment: One of the books has no page numbers on Google Books. I was unable to find out more information on his other children partially due to many unavailable pages.
Created by SL93 (talk). Self-nominated at 02:36, 13 August 2021 (UTC).
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Overall: Though no source was included in the nomination, I was able to verify the hook using the sources in the article. However, the quote is from an article written almost 20 years ago. Maybe clarify that at the time it was sold, the portrait was the second-most valuable artwork in Canada. (apart from this and the QPQ (which I assume is still in progress), this DYK seems good to go) GeneralPoxter (talk • contribs) 16:21, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
- GeneralPoxter I already completed the QPQ (linked above). I am just waiting for that nominator to complete their QPQ for their nomination. ALT1 ... that a painting of Maungwudaus (pictured), an Ojibwe performer and herbalist, was the second-most valuable artwork in Canada at the time it was sold? SL93 (talk) 21:25, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
- Good to go for ALT1. GeneralPoxter (talk • contribs) 21:39, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
Abraham O. Woodruff
- ... that Abraham O. Woodruff practiced plural marriage 11 years after his father, Wilford Woodruff, issued the 1890 Manifesto that banned the institution? Source: "That Owen entered into a post-Manifesto polygamous relationship in 1901 is ironic, of course, because it was his own father who had issued the 1890 Manifesto proclaiming the end of plural marriage." ([33])
- ALT1:... that Abraham O. Woodruff married a second wife 11 years after his father, Wilford Woodruff, issued the 1890 Manifesto that banned the practice of plural marriage? Source: "That Owen entered into a post-Manifesto polygamous relationship in 1901 is ironic, of course, because it was his own father who had issued the 1890 Manifesto proclaiming the end of plural marriage." ([34])
- Reviewed: NZS 3604
5x expanded by Cstickel(byu) (talk). Self-nominated at 18:41, 13 August 2021 (UTC).
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Overall: I'm not sure whether two users can take credit for reviewing the same article, but I'll assume it was in good faith and count it as a QPQ. Nice work! We're good to go. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 20:43, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on August 14
Global Action Fund for Fungal Infections
- ... that the Global Action Fund for Fungal Infections calculate that every year severe fungal infection affects more than 300 million people? In total, the GAFFI estimates that over 300 million people of all ages suffer from a serious fungal infection each year globally[35]
- Reviewed: Shirley Chiang
Created by Whispyhistory (talk) and Philafrenzy (talk). Nominated by Whispyhistory (talk) at 20:08, 21 August 2021 (UTC).
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Overall: Looks good! I'll rephrase the article slightly to better reflect the source, otherwise no concerns. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 14:16, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
2021 Turkey floods
- ... that on 11 August 2021, more than 400 millimetres (16 in) of rain was recorded in northern Turkey, causing catastrophic flooding? Source: [36] (In Turkish, but it does confirm that 420 kg/m2 - equivalent to mm - of rain did accumulate in Mamatlar village in Bozkurt, Kastamonu.)
ALT1:... that the 2021 Turkey floods almost completely wiped out the village of Babaçay, Sinop?Source: [37]- ALT2:... that the 2021 Turkey floods destroyed at least six bridges, inundated power plants, and caused the infrastructure of numerous towns to collapse? Source: [38][39]
- ALT3:... that Turkish Interior Minister Süleyman Soylu described the severe floods in northern Turkey as the worst he has ever seen? Source: [40]
- Comment: I'm below 5 DYK credits, so a review should not be compulsory, but if I do review something during this process, I can add it if needed.
Created by Chidgk1 (talk). Nominated by Uness232 (talk) at 13:27, 18 August 2021 (UTC).
- Article is long enough (7950 characters), new enough (created 14 August, nominated 18 August), and article is within policy (AGF on Turkish-language sources, but they look to be fine)
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ALT0, ALT2 & ALT3 are all short enough, interesting, in the article and well cited (AGF on Turkish language source for ALT0, though it appears to check out, bearing in mind that 1 kg/m2 = 1mm). ALT1 isn't interesting to a general reader in my opinion, as people won't have heard of the place, so hard to tell whether it's that unusual/important or not. I have added a convert to ALT0 to convert mm to inches (as this is standard on Wikipedia and DYK hooks to do so), and in ALT2, I changed 6 to six, as per - 0 previous completed nominations, according to the tool The nominator is exempt from QPQ, as they have
- Overall this nomination passes, congratulations (AGF on offline sources). Joseph2302 (talk) 09:13, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
Echinocyamus pusillus
- ... that the sea urchin Echinocyamus pusillus turns bright green when injured? Source: "Devient vert vif quand il est endommagé"
- Reviewed: Maria Karapetyan
Created by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 06:16, 20 August 2021 (UTC).
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Overall: Article is 2051 characters long, and Earwig returns a clean report. AGF on French source for hook. Joofjoof (talk) 09:26, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
Tyler Gilbert
- ... that Tyler Gilbert threw a no-hitter in his first Major League Baseball start?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Francis Burt (composer)
- Comment: I initially was hoping to IAR on the time frame a little bit, as it was 1500 characters of prose in 12 days since creation. But now, it's a 5x expansion on top of the initial stub that was created.
5x expanded by Muboshgu (talk). Self-nominated at 05:09, 15 August 2021 (UTC).
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Overall: Hook is cited in the article, instead of nomination page–everything looks good, holding approval awaiting a QPQ. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 06:09, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Muboshgu: let me know when the QPQ is done. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 06:10, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
- Theleekycauldron, I added the QPQ before you reviewed it. – Muboshgu (talk) 14:24, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Muboshgu: ah, my mistake. I'll pass the nomination, then. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 16:45, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Theleekycauldron: no problem at all, I am often too slow on my QPQs, so maybe you just saw my username and went there :P – Muboshgu (talk) 18:53, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Muboshgu: ahahaaa theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 21:13, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
Cook Islands National Museum
- ... that the collection of the Cook Islands National Museum includes 800-year-old fish hooks? Source: https://www.cookislandsnews.com/local/ancient-hooks-reveal-more-insights/
- ALT1:... that in 1999 two necklaces were repatriated to the Cook Islands National Museum from a museum in Angus, Scotland? Source: https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=8MQFDAAAQBAJ&newbks=0&printsec=frontcover&pg=PA86&dq=cook+islands+national+museum&hl=en&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=cook%20islands%20national%20museum&f=false (p.96 - lower paragraph on page)
Created by Lajmmoore (talk). Self-nominated at 07:46, 16 August 2021 (UTC).
- I enjoyed reading this article and wondered why nobody had written it earlier. New enough and long enough. Neutral and encylopedic. Copyvio exceedingly unlikely as Earwig shows 3.8% chance. First hook (ho ho ho!) has a reliable source, as does the second. I personally find the second far more interesting as it shows our globalised world, and museum repatriation has been a mainstream topic of debate in recent times. QPQ done. Unknown Temptation (talk) 21:20, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on August 15
Plevna, Tampere
- ... that the Plevna building in Tampere, Finland was the first building in the Nordic countries and Empire of Russia (which Finland was part of at the time) to be lit by electrical lights? Sources: 10 Plevna, city of Tampere 2003. Accessed on 16 August 2021. SUOMEN ENSIMMÄISEN SÄHKÖVALAISTUKSEN MUISTOLAATTA 1962, city of Tampere 2006. Accessed on 16 August 2021., Viljo Rasila, Tampereen historia 2, p. 34.]
- ALT1:... that the Plevna building in Tampere, Finland was the first building in the Nordic countries to be lit by electrical light? Sources: 10 Plevna, city of Tampere 2003. Accessed on 16 August 2021. SUOMEN ENSIMMÄISEN SÄHKÖVALAISTUKSEN MUISTOLAATTA 1962, city of Tampere 2006. Accessed on 16 August 2021., Rasila, Viljo Tampereen historia 2, p. 34.
Created by JIP (talk). Self-nominated at 12:51, 15 August 2021 (UTC).
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Overall: Approved :) Shushugah (he/him • talk) 19:14, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
- I found a working link for a source about the first electric light in the Nordic countries. The article and this nomination have been updated. JIP | Talk 02:43, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
- I found another source by the city of Tampere and added a little more information about the building. JIP | Talk 02:59, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
- The English Wikipedia doesn't have an article about Satakunnankatu but the Finnish Wikipedia does. As I speak Finnish natively I could translate it but it's going to take one day. Alternatively I could just delink the street name. JIP | Talk 03:01, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
- I have added more material about the industrial building and the restaurant. JIP | Talk 01:17, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
Nicoll Highway MRT station
- ... that as a result of a tunnel collapse near Singapore's Nicoll Highway MRT station on 20 April 2004, the station site has to be relocated? Reconstruction of Nicoll Highway station
- ALT1:Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)
- Reviewed: Unisphere
Created/expanded by ZKang123 (talk). Self-nominated at 09:42, 17 August 2021 (UTC).
- Article is a GA, nominated in time (became GA on 15 August, nominated 17 August), and article is within policy
- Hook is short enough, interesting enough (it's reasonably rare for stations to be moved), in the article and well cited
- QPQ done
- Overall, this nomination passes, congratulations. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:31, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
275 Madison Avenue
- ... that the architect of 275 Madison Avenue (pictured) didn't include much exterior decoration because he wanted the building to be "shadow-less"? Source: "New Skyscraper in Central Zone; New East Side Skyscraper" (PDF). The New York Times. December 21, 1930. p. 141.
- ALT1:... that 275 Madison Avenue (pictured) used color contrasts for decoration because the architect wanted the building to be "shadow-less"? Source: "505-Foot-High Tower Of Black and White For Madison Avenue: Windows Will Be Flush With Facade Which Is Intended to Provide Minimum Light". New York Herald Tribune. July 20, 1930. p. E2.
- ALT2:... that a foreclosure proceeding for 275 Madison Avenue (pictured) was overturned because the company that started the foreclosure process only owned 2 percent of the building? Source: "Clarifies Status of Mortgagees; Justice Frankenthaler Rules 2% Interest Not Enough to Bring Foreclosure" (PDF). The New York Times. December 13, 1933. p. 37
Created by Epicgenius (talk). Self-nominated at 15:21, 15 August 2021 (UTC).
- – The article is new enough (created on August 14, 2021) and long enough (24,622 characters), cites various sources, and is free of plagiarism (Earwig's copyvio detector detects at-most 16.7% similarity – violation unlikely). The hooks are less than 200 characters, formatted properly, and are definitely interesting. The image is licenced properly, used in the article and looks fine in 100px. Just waiting for a QPQ to proceed. Thanks! – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 11:07, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Kavyansh.Singh: Thanks for the review, I really appreciate it. I've done a QPQ now. Epicgenius (talk) 16:07, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
- – QPQ provided. I couldn't access the sources, but assuming good faith, the nomination is approved. – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 16:37, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
Ramsåsa Church
- ... that the medieval rood of Ramsåsa Church (pictured) was discovered in the church attic at the beginning of the 20th century? Source: Most easily accessible (in Swedish) here
Created by Yakikaki (talk). Self-nominated at 19:20, 15 August 2021 (UTC).
- New enough, long enough, and adequately sourced. Earwig found no copying. Interesting hook, within rules and properly sourced, as verified through Google translate. QPQ done. Good to go. —David Eppstein (talk) 01:24, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on August 16
List of places of worship in East Hampshire
- ... that places of worship in the English district of East Hampshire include the Temple of the White Eagle Lodge (pictured)—likened to "an Art Deco version of the Pantheon"? Source: A direct quote from Bullen et al (2010), p.378 ("Hampshire: Winchester and the North" edition of the Buildings of England series, a.k.a. the Pevsner guides. Current ref [2], referenced in the lead and in the blurb for the temple itself in the "Current places of worship" section.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Protestant Church, Borgholzhausen
- Comment: Moved from my userspace today (16th August).
Moved to mainspace by Hassocks5489 (talk). Self-nominated at 17:07, 16 August 2021 (UTC).
- Hi Hassocks5489, review follows: article moved to mainspace 16 August; exceeds minimum length and is well written; article is cited inline throughout to reliable sources for the subject matter; I didn't check anywhere near 5% of the vast number of sources but found no issues with overly close paraphrasing from some of the more frequently used; hook is interesting, mentioned in the article and cited, I don't have access to a copy of Pevsner to check unfortunately but happy to AGF; image works well and has been taken by the nominator and uploaded under an appropriate license; a QPQ has been carried out. Looks fine to me. One minor comment, but I won't hold up the nom for it, I think perhaps footnote 2 could use a citation (I am presuming the other footnotes are supported by the citations in the table - Dumelow (talk) 06:14, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
- Many thanks Dumelow; I have added a ref for the URC footnote. Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 09:31, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
Torreya Guardians
- ... that the Torreya Guardians are trying to save the Torreya taxifolia, considered the "rarest conifer in North America", from extinction? Source:[1][2]
- ALT1:... that the Torreya Guardians are relocating the Torreya taxifolia to save this tree from extinction? Source: [2]
- ALT2:... that the Torreya Guardians is a self-organized conservationist group that was forced to work outside outside established institutions because it experimented with a new and controversial conservation proposal? Source: [2]
Created by Mottezen (talk). Self-nominated at 06:48, 14 August 2021 (UTC).
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Overall: Article is new enough, long enough, well sourced and cited inline. Earwig only detected quotations. No QPQ needed as its editors first nomination. I like ALT0 best. Lajmmoore (talk) 07:36, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
- Note: ALT2 is 209 characters – a bit over the maximum limit of 200. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 08:36, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
References
- ^ Spector, T.; Determann, R. & Gardner, M. (10 August 2010). "Torreya taxifolia". IUCN Red List of Threatened Species. 2011: e.T30968A9585489. doi:10.2305/IUCN.UK.2011-2.RLTS.T30968A9585489.en. Retrieved August 15, 2014.
Listed as Critically Endangered (CR A2ace v3.1)
- ^ a b c Berdik, Chris (12 October 2008). "Driving Mr. Lynx". The Boston Globe. Retrieved 2021-08-07.
Articles created/expanded on August 17
Fireproof banknote
- ... that soaking a paper banknote in 50% (v/v) alcohol fuel can create a fireproof banknote? Source: "a demonstration of putting banknote, previously soaked in 50% (v/v) alcohol fuel solution, to a flame. The fire is lit and later extinguished by itself without the banknote being burnt." DOI: 10.1021/acs.jchemed.9b00474
- ALT1:... that fireproof banknote can be made by soaking paper banknote in 50% (v/v) alcohol fuel before putting to a flame? Source: "a demonstration of putting banknote, previously soaked in 50% (v/v) alcohol fuel solution, to a flame. The fire is lit and later extinguished by itself without the banknote being burnt." DOI: 10.1021/acs.jchemed.9b00474
Created by Teetee taw (talk) and Taweetham (talk). Nominated by Teetee taw (talk) at 09:08, 20 August 2021 (UTC).
- I added the code to my account to do the automatic check on length, but the new page does pass it at over 2,000 characters of prose. There is no problem with bias or copyvio. The article is new enough and QPQ done. I assume good faith on the hook, which is cited to an academic source that I can't access. However, I have to inquire about the claim "Euro banknote is recommended since it is legally permitted to burn it in small amount for educational purpose as there are no depictions of any persons". Unless I am really missing something, the source isn't saying that at all. The source says nothing about a lack of people, nor an exception for educational purposes. The closest I've got is "Member States should not encourage mutilation of euro banknotes or coins for artistic purposes but should tolerate it. Such mutilated banknotes or coins should be considered as unfit for circulation." This doesn't line up with the claim made in the article, unless I'm reading the wrong part. I wouldn't imagine, for example, that laws against destruction of currency would apply to destroying pound sterling in the US, whether or not it had the Queen on it. Unknown Temptation (talk) 20:06, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
- Unknown Temptation, sorry for the confusion I have caused. The mentioned statement has been revised. "Educational purposes" is removed while "lack of people" statement has been cited by another source (I have used two sources for that statement but end up citing only one). Teetee taw (talk) 05:23, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
- No need to apologise, we are all human. I assume good faith on the source about the lack of persons. Changing to as the hook is on an academic source that I can not access, but this is a trustworthy editor. Unknown Temptation (talk) 13:24, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
- Unknown Temptation, sorry for the confusion I have caused. The mentioned statement has been revised. "Educational purposes" is removed while "lack of people" statement has been cited by another source (I have used two sources for that statement but end up citing only one). Teetee taw (talk) 05:23, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
Rock Demers
- ... that Rock Demers was spurred to make The Dog Who Stopped the War after reading an article on youth suicide? Source: CBC News
- ALT1:... that Rock Demers became a film producer instead of a teacher and made the Tales for All children's series? Source: "A Spinner of 'Childhood' Tales" (Zatlokal)
- Reviewed: James Chappell (servant)
- Comment: Eligible per Rule 1d, because it is only scheduled to appear in the "Recent Deaths" section of ITN and not as a bold link.
5x expanded by Bloom6132 (talk). Self-nominated at 22:12, 18 August 2021 (UTC).
- expansion checks out, article is long enough and contains no obvious signs of copvyio. It's sourced, as are both hooks, and both are short enough and interesting enough. I personally prefer the first hook, more impactful for me than the ALT. QPQ is satisfactory as well. This is good to go. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 13:44, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
Qingzhen Zhinan
- ... that in his 1683 work Qingzhen Zhinan, Chinese Islamic scholar Ma Zhu recommends the "official persecution" of Sufis?
- ALT1:... that Qingzhen Zhinan is "the first comprehensive introductory work to Islam in Chinese"?
Created by Kingoflettuce (talk). Self-nominated at 09:54, 18 August 2021 (UTC).
- I'll be reviewing this one.
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Overall: Looks good. AGF on the Lipman source; I found a digital copy for the second one containing the quote, and so that checks out. Very interesting hooks – especially the first, IMO, but both are compelling. Article looks OK, Earwig didn't get any copyvio, and the article was just made and is in good shape. Passes with flying colors, congrats! AllegedlyHuman (talk) 07:44, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
Light Years (Kylie Minogue album)
- ... that Kylie Minogue's seventh studio album Light Years includes a hidden introductory track in the pregap portion of its CD release? Source: “Password” surfaced on Light Years as a hidden “introductory track” at its start. the hidden album track Password – a bugger to find, as there was but scarce internet in those days.)
- ALT1:... that Kylie Minogue scored her first number-one album in her native Australia with Light Years in 2000, 12 years after her debut album was released? Source: KYLIE MINOGUE IN AUSTRALIAN CHARTS - Albums Light Years was an instant sensation and awarded Minogue with her first number-one album in Australia
- ALT2:... that Kylie Minogue's seventh studio album, Light Years, was her first number-one album in her native Australia? Source: Same with previous hook
Improved to Good Article status by Damian Vo (talk). Self-nominated at 06:39, 17 August 2021 (UTC).
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Overall: Article is a recent GA, long enough and well sourced. Earwig is not picking up any copyvio (except quotes and titles). qpq is done. All the hooks are interesting and mostly cited. The 12 year gap between Kylie's debut album and Light Years isn't technically mentioned the source but that's really more of a basic fact than anything (it's pretty self-explanatory that 2000 was 12 years after 1988). BuySomeApples (talk) 23:47, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on August 18
Tamper (nuclear weapon)
- ... that the W71 nuclear warhead had a tamper made of gold? Source: "Gold (Z=79) has been used in at least one weapon design as part of the tamper (or possibly the radiation case) - the W-71 warhead for the Spartan ABM missile" ([41]) [nb: offline second source used in the article says the tamper. The W71 radiation case was made of thorium.]
- ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)
5x expanded by Hawkeye7 (talk). Self-nominated at 22:13, 21 August 2021 (UTC).
- Hook is interesting and within acceptable limits. Sources check. Article expanded 5x in a timely fashion. Image has Creative Commons license. Am a little astonished about the detail and depth of the material in the Physics section, obviously not aimed at the average reader, but not a DYK criteria issue. There is a minor close paraphrasing issue to deal with involving nuclearweaponarchive.org, general phrases aside. See Duplication Detector results. No other problems. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 21:32, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
- This seems to be only technical terms. Earwig reports no violation. [42] Hawkeye7 (discuss) 00:05, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
- What concerned me is that some of the tech terms were strung together in the same manner as the source. Since Earwig reports no flagrant similarities then there's no further need to belabor this. Article is good to go. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 01:17, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
Solow Building
- ... that a sculpture of the number "9" was installed outside the Solow Building (pictured) after its sculptor joked the building's facade could be a "launching pad" for the "9"? Source: Heller, Steven (December 14, 2003). "ART; A Laboratory for Sign Language". The New York Times.
- ALT1:... that a perpetually closed art gallery in the Solow Building (pictured) inspired the creation of a parody website? Source: "Developer's museum off-limits to the public". Crain's New York Business. April 23, 2018.
- ALT2:... that the owner of the Solow Building (pictured) tried to evict the Bank of America under a law normally used for evicting drug dealers and prostitutes? Source: Harrigan, Susan (June 1, 2005). "Sihpol case going to jury, Former broker's larceny, fraud trial puts spotlight on probes by New York's attorney general". Newsday. p. 39
- ALT3:... that the basement stores of the Solow Building (pictured) were empty for three decades, even though it had some of the most expensive office space in New York City? Source: Multiple in article
5x expanded by Epicgenius (talk). Self-nominated at 22:55, 18 August 2021 (UTC).
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Overall: Hoary (talk) 08:48, 19 August 2021 (UTC) Updated (because QPQ has now been done) Hoary (talk) 21:51, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
Reviewer's comments:
- Unnumbered hook (ALT0?): certainly strange, but somehow uninteresting for me (I can't put my finger on any particular reason). I didn't check if it's backed up in the cited source.
- ALT1: An excellent hook. Yes, it's clearly backed up in the cited source. (If, like me, you're not eligible to be shown the full-sized version, you may like to know that the part of the article cited here is toward its end -- reading the minuscule font almost blinded me.)
- ALT2: Again, an excellent hook; and yes, it's clearly backed up in the cited source.
- ALT3: I'm accustomed to reading about long-empty buildings in "high-rent" areas, buildings owned by the extremely rich who either intend to benefit from arcane tax breaks or are so stupendously wealthy that they just don't care about losing a few tens of millions here or there. And thus ALT3 doesn't interest me. As for "ALT0", I didn't check if it's backed up in the cited source.
- Picture: For either ALT1 or ALT2, I imagine that File:Solow Building New York August 2012.jpg is the picture intended. This file has no copyright complication; and yes it's used in the article, and it would be OK at a width of 100px.
The status of this proposal as a whole is "?", and not "✓", merely because of the QPQ matter (which I expect will be cleared up soon).Update: For either ALT1 or ALT2: "✓".
-- Hoary (talk) comment originally written 08:48, 19 August 2021 (UTC), reorganized for clarity 22:06, 19 August 2021 (UTC), updated 21:51, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
- I really am partial to ALT1, given how interesting and amusing the website is! It's good to share. ɱ (talk) 13:47, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Ɱ: Yeah, it really is a funny website. I actually cracked up at that. I think you showed it to me before, which is why I was inspired to write it as an alt hook. Epicgenius (talk) 14:13, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Hoary: Thanks for the review, I appreciate it. I've done a QPQ now. Epicgenius (talk) 14:13, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
- I really am partial to ALT1, given how interesting and amusing the website is! It's good to share. ɱ (talk) 13:47, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
Sevastijan Dabović
- ... that Nikolaj Velimirović called Sevastijan Dabović (pictured) the greatest Serbian missionary of modern times? Source: "Saint Nikolaj (Velimirović), who was Sebastian's great friend and buried him in the Žiča monastery in 1940, called him "a sinless man" and "the greatest Serbian missionary of modern times"." [43]
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... that Nikolaj Velimirović called Saint Sevastijan Dabović (pictured) the greatest Serbian missionary of modern times?Source: "Saint Nikolaj (Velimirović), who was Sebastian's great friend and buried him in the Žiča monastery in 1940, called him "a sinless man" and "the greatest Serbian missionary of modern times"." [44] - Reviewed: not needed (just one credit) Schwede66 09:50, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
- ALT2: ... that bishop Nikolaj Velimirović called Sevastijan Dabović the greatest Serbian missionary of modern times?
- ALT1:
Created by Aquinasthomes1 (talk). Nominated by Curbon7 (talk) at 08:07, 18 August 2021 (UTC).
- The article isn't anywhere near ready for main page exposure. An English speaker needs to give it a good copyedit. Sourcing is substandard. Punctuation is sloppy. Please remove spaces between punctuation and references. Please provide English translations of foreign language titles within the references. There is a red link for a template that needs to be resolved. Why does a brand-new article have a dead link? Schwede66 09:47, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
- This is a new (but undeclared) translation of a Serbian WP article (hence the broken reference in a brand-new article queried above). I've marked the translation on the article's talk page, as is required, and issued a warning to the user who failed to give attribution. DYK's eligibility criteria say:
Articles that are translations from other wikis count as new articles.
As it's a translation, Earwig is entirely happy. I've tidied up the article so that it's historically correct, e.g. it should not refer to political entities that did not yet exist at the time an event happened. With that tidy up, the article is now neutral. It's long enough. There is a Serbian article title in what is currently reference number 4 and that needs to be shown with an English-language translation in the reference. Nominator has one credit and a QPQ is thus not required. The original hook checks out. I have struck ALT1 as Velimirović died decades before Dabović was canonised, i.e. he would not have talked about him as a "saint". That said, I suggest ALT2 where I have added the word "bishop" for context. The image is missing a US copyright tag and I can't see which one would apply, so I suggest that unless some knowledgeable editor can resolve this, the image should not be used. Schwede66 21:45, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
- Schwede66, Thanks for all of your work, this nom was a bit of a trainwreck on my end so I apologize for that and will make sure this doesn't repeat. I'm in the process of moving so that really hampered my ability. Regarding reference 4, I tried to use a Cyrillic to Latin-script translator and then machine translate that, but some of the words didn't translate properly. And yeah I'm in concurrence with not using the image if it doesn't have the right US license. Curbon7 (talk) 04:29, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
- Yeah, it’s fair to say that I have spent more time reviewing this than it’s taken me to write some articles. But your (review) mileage does vary. user:Aquinasthomes1, can you assist with that one last item? If you don’t know your way around citation templates, just reply here with the needed words. Schwede66 04:40, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
- Hi, i translated the part of 4 reference, I hope it helps. Aquinasthomes1 (talk) 08:40, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
- Good to go; ALT2 preferred over the original hook. Photo not to be used. Schwede66 10:52, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
John Solomon Cartwright
- ... that when John Solomon Cartwright, MP, was dying he sold his law library cheaply to a rising local lawyer, John A. Macdonald, future prime minister of Canada, so it would stay in the Kingston area? Dictionary of Canadian Biography: CARTWRIGHT, John Solomon
- ALT1:... that Tory MP John Solomon Cartwright sat on the Canadian court martial which convicted Nils von Schoultz of leading an American invasion of Upper Canada in 1838, sentencing him to be hanged? Dictionary of Canadian Biography: CARTWRIGHT, John Solomon Dictionary of Canadian Biography: SCHOULTZ, NILS VON
- ALT2:... that John Solomon Cartwright, MP, wanted French Canadians to participate in the government of the new Province of Canada, but opposed the use of French in the provincial Parliament and courts? Source: Dictionary of Canadian Biography: CARTWRIGHT, John Solomon
- ALT3:... that Tory MP John Solomon Cartwright refused a request by the Governor-General of the Province of Canada to join the government, because he would not sit in Cabinet with radical Francis Hincks? Source: Dictionary of Canadian Biography: CARTWRIGHT, John Solomon
Improved to Good Article status by Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk). Self-nominated at 02:56, 18 August 2021 (UTC).
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Overall: New GA. All points check out, all hooks are sourced, ready to go with any of them. I like ALT1 most, but all pass muster. Moonraker (talk) 13:34, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
Dyadic rational
- ... that fractions based on powers of two can be easier to work with than other kinds of fractions for both schoolchildren and computers? Sources: schoolchildren, [45], footnote 18 of current version of article; computers, [46], footnote 5
- Reviewed: Semi-cursive script
Improved to Good Article status by David Eppstein (talk). Self-nominated at 21:03, 18 August 2021 (UTC).
- Review. The article is a recent GA. It is long enough, QPQ has been done, Earwig is clear. The hook is cited inline, in two different places as indicated above. The article is cited throughout, neutral, well written. This is good to go. Desertarun (talk) 22:12, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on August 19
List of songs recorded by Chuck Mosley
- ... that Chuck Mosley (pictured) described the distinctive singing style used throughout his career as "screaming to the beat, like ranting" as a result of not understanding his bandmates' music?
Moved to mainspace by Grapple X (talk). Self-nominated at 21:39, 19 August 2021 (UTC).
- Substantial list with a great intro, on fine sources, no copyvio obvious - not much danger anyway in a table. I like the hook! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:00, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
- The image is licensed and the perfect illustration. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:02, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
Dracophyllum arboreum
- ... that the New Zealand tree tarahinau (pictured) has evolved to develop thinner leaves as it matures, as a result of the high winds of the Chatham Islands? Source: https://newzealandecology.org/nzje/2895.pdf
Improved to Good Article status by Dracophyllum (talk). Self-nominated at 09:06, 22 August 2021 (UTC).
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Comet (card game)
- ... that the card game of Comet, originally called Manille, was renamed in 1682 after the appearance of Halley's Comet?
Source: "...the hocs were replaced by a single wild card, the Nine of diamonds, known as manille, which gave the game its new name. It also became known as Comet following the appearance of Halley's comet in 1682..." in Parlett, David (1991). A History of Card Games, OUP, Oxford.- ALT1:... that the card game of Comet was named after Halley's Comet in 1682 probably because the long run of cards laid by the players resembles the light trail behind a comet?
Source: as above plus "...continues to be called Comet. Wrt the latter it could well have been named after the long runs of cards laid during a player's turn, resembling comets, which are usually accompanied by a long trail of light..." in _ (1718). Académie universelle des jeux. Théodore Le Gras, Paris. pp. 153ff.
- ALT1:... that the card game of Comet was named after Halley's Comet in 1682 probably because the long run of cards laid by the players resembles the light trail behind a comet?
- Reviewed: to follow
Created by Bermicourt (talk). Self-nominated at 15:22, 19 August 2021 (UTC).
- Date, size, refs, neutrality, all GTG. I am AGFing that this is notable and there is SIGCOV in sources. Please copy the date 1682 from the lead to the body, and conversely, expand the lead a bit (right now it's super short and it contains information not repeated in the body, like the data 1682). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 09:12, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
Brachystelma tumakurense
- ... that Brachystelma tumakurense was discovered in 2017 when when deficient rainfall caused grasses surrounding the plant to grow shorter than usual? Source: "About 16–18 individuals in one population were found growing amongst grasses, mainly Cymbopogon spp., in a southern moist mixed forest. The plants were distinctly visible since grasses had not attained their usual height owing to low rainfall in the year 2017." (PDF at Internet Archive)
- ALT1:... that Brachystelma tumakurense's stem is so weak that it sometimes bends under the weight of leaves and flowers? Source: "...some similarities exist between B. nallamalayanum K.Prasad & B.R.P.Rao, and the new species in having terete, weak, erect stems often bent due to the weight of leaves and flowers..." (PDF at Internet Archive)
- Reviewed: Only my fourth DYK, no QPQ required. Nevertheless, reviewing King Edward's Place.
Created by Wilhelm Tell DCCXLVI (talk). Self-nominated at 15:55, 19 August 2021 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on August 20
2021 British Open
- ... that a separated couple competed for the first time at the 2021 British Open? Source: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/snooker/58236543
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/TBA
Created by Lee Vilenski (talk). Self-nominated at 20:12, 20 August 2021 (UTC).
- : Article is in compliance with the DYK criteria, hook is interesting and had me thinking "is this about golf? but how, thought the Men's and Women's open were separate?). Personally I think the list of broadcasters in background is a bit promotional-sounding but it is cited to a reliable source so I can't really complain under DYK criteria. ViperSnake151 Talk 00:19, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
UEFA Euro 2000 Final
- ... that France won the UEFA Euro 2000 Final with a golden goal?
5x expanded by The Rambling Man (talk). Self-nominated at 13:46, 20 August 2021 (UTC).
- That is a fantastic expansion. Long enough, well-written (I'd like to see a comma after "I'm happy"), all the images are properly licensed, the hook is verified. Send it on. Expanding editor is kindly requested not to make reference anymore to soccer games in which the Dutch team manages to miss five penalty kicks. Drmies (talk) 17:17, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on August 21
Research Policy (journal)
- ... that Research Policy is regarded as the leading journal in the field of innovation studies? Source: Scientometrics: "These results—Research Policy is not only the most frequently cited journal, but also the scholarly journal in which the most cited work appeared—indicate that this journal is generally acknowledged to be the leading journal in the field of innovation studies"
- ALT1:... that British economist Christopher Freeman started the journal Research Policy in 1971, which is regarded as the leading journal in the field of innovation studies? Source: [47]
- ALT2:... that the journal Research Policy, regarded as the leading journal in the field of innovation studies, was started by British economist Christopher Freeman in 1971?
- Comment: I should be QPQ exempted.
Created by Dr.Swag Lord, Ph.d (talk). Self-nominated at 06:06, 21 August 2021 (UTC).
- Review. The article is new enough and long enough. QPQ is not required. Earwig is clear. The article is cited throughout. All of the hooks are cited and assert this is the leading journal and was started by the said person. The word "journal" was duplicated in ALT0 so I removed that. ALT0 is preferred. ALT1 and ALT2 are kind of clunky/wordy but factually correct. This is good to go. Desertarun (talk) 20:17, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
Hanneke Kappen
- ... that in the early 1980s, Dutch singer and radio and TV presenter Hanneke Kappen (pictured) presented only the second Dutch radio show dedicated to heavy metal music? Source: [48]
Created by Drmies (talk). Self-nominated at 16:25, 21 August 2021 (UTC).
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Overall: Epicgenius (talk) 14:11, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
Kangmei Pharmaceutical
- ... that Kangmei Pharmaceutical's financial fraud was initially described as an "accounting error"? Source: Kangmei disclosed its issue on April 30 and has said almost nothing beyond its initial diagnosis of “accounting error”.[49] Kangmei Pharmaceutical, found by regulators to have engaged in one of China’s largest financial frauds totalling US$12.6 billion[50]
- Reviewed: Global Action Fund for Fungal Infections
Created by Mx. Granger (talk). Self-nominated at 18:18, 22 August 2021 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on August 22
CSRC Pickens
- ... that the officers of USRC Robert McClelland remained with the ship after it surrendered and entered Confederate service? Refs 2, 6, and 8 inline.
- ALT1:... that the second lieutenant of USRC Robert McClelland was given authorization to treat the ship's captain as a mutineer, if necessary? [51]
Created by Hog Farm (talk). Self-nominated at 23:42, 22 August 2021 (UTC).
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Overall: Second ref now unfortunately a dead link (have tried to fix at source), however plenty of other references inc. for Breshwood being reassigned; good to go, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 10:39, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on August 23
In the Ditch (novel)
- ... that In the Ditch (1972) is based on the experiences of writer Buchi Emecheta, and deals with the systemic violence faced by working-class women in Britain at the time? Source: https://www.theparisreview.org/blog/2019/02/28/re-covered-in-the-ditch/
Created by Reading Beans (talk) and BuySomeApples (talk). Nominated by BuySomeApples (talk) at 21:22, 23 August 2021 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on August 24
Helen Medlyn
- ... that New Zealand opera singer Helen Medlyn's first performing role was as one of the Three Kings? Source: "Helen and Wade both took their first theatrical steps at the school. ... "We had a nativity play and, like a typical diva in training, I wanted to be Mary because she was the mother of Jesus," Helen says. "I had to be one of the kings instead and I was heartily disgusted."" [52]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/UEFA Euro 1996 Final
- Comment: Struggling a bit with the hook wording for this one, grateful for any thoughts or any other suggestions. Wondered about trying to do something around her hell-themed cabaret shows.
Created by Chocmilk03 (talk). Self-nominated at 00:12, 24 August 2021 (UTC).
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Overall: Article is new enough and long enough, well cited, with "unlikely" plagarism predicted by Earwig. I think the hook is OK too. Ping me if you come up with a "hell-themed" one that you'd like reviewing though! Lajmmoore (talk) 10:40, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
Special occasion holding area
Paralympics (August 24 - September 5)
Natalie Simanowski
- ... that Natalie Simanowski began her "second life" as a Paralympian cyclist after a knife attack by a psychopath in Munich?Source: "I knew immediately that it was something bad. I'm a specialist." It was the beginning of what Simanowski calls her second life."
- ALT1:... that Natalie Simanowski began her "second life" as a Paralympian cyclist after being attacked by someone described as a "psychopath"?
- Reviewed: Mary V. Ahern
- Comment: Women in Red ==> Paralympics pls
Created by SarahTHunter (talk) and Victuallers (talk). Nominated by Victuallers (talk) at 16:26, 16 July 2021 (UTC).
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Overall: Article is new enough, long enough, well sourced and has no copyvio. The hook is cited and interesting, but I'm not sure if describing her attacker as a "psychopath" is politically correct enough for Wikipedia. I can see that it's the term used in the original source, but since I'm not knowledgable about German I can't tell if that's a diagnosis or a turn of speech (ie "He's such a psychopath"). Not a problem that would prevent this nom from passing, I just want another opinion. BuySomeApples (talk) 06:34, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
- I had that problem too, I though about "by a stranger" or "random attack", but its not made clear whether he was known to her and I wanted to avoid being so politically correct that we failed to report the facts. Leaving "by a psychopath" out of the hook side steps the issue and we can put "described as" in the article. I'm not sure we will find an authoritative opinion here. Victuallers (talk) 12:15, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
- True, I'm not sure how to verify whether the "psychopath" bit is factually accurate or journalistic color (I also don't know much about German news media, whether its more likely to be accurate or not). From what I know, the popular use of the term psychopath is inaccurate but without understanding nuance I don't know if that's the case here. I think I'll err on the side of trusting the sources to be strictly factual and approve ALT0 and ALT1 @Victuallers:. BuySomeApples (talk) 18:03, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
Mahama Refugee Camp
- ... that thousands who fled Burundi have taken refuge in Rwanda's Mahama Refugee Camp (building pictured), but only one of them has been chosen to compete in the Paralympics?Source:"thousands of Burundian...vast majority live in Mahama refugee camp" and "chosen to compete"
- ALT1:... that ...?
- Reviewed: 2021 French Grand Prix
- Comment: Not a biog! but still for the Paralympics which start on 24 August?
Created by Victuallers (talk). Self-nominated at 15:34, 3 July 2021 (UTC).
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Overall: Article is new enough, long enough and no copyvio. Hook is interested and cited. Photo in the nom is a cropped version of the article's main pic, so no issues there. QPQ was done and nom looks ready for promotion sometime during the Paralympics. BuySomeApples (talk) 00:50, 29 July 2021 (UTC)
Ksenia Ovsyannikova
- ... that the Russian wheelchair fencer Ksenia Ovsyannikova (pictured) toured the United States on a "mission for inclusion" in 2017? Source: "mission for inclusion"
- ALT1:... that ...(have a go!)?
- Reviewed: Lisa Barbelin
- Comment: Paralympic holding area? - another Women in Red Olympic/Paralympic article
Created by Victuallers (talk) and SportsOlympic (talk). Nominated by Victuallers (talk) at 19:48, 29 June 2021 (UTC).
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Overall: Overall, seems good to go. Checks out with regards to newness, length, neutrality, and sources. Earwig shows little probability of any copyright violation. The picture seems adequate and free. I'll go ahead and approve this with the main hook. JJonahJackalope (talk) 16:13, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
- I have replaced "USA" in the hook with "United States" per MOS:NOTUSA. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:37, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
Sjerstin Vermeulen
- ... that Sjerstin Vermeulen has won Paralympic medals in swimming and equestrian? Source: [55]
- ALT1:... that Sjerstin Vermeulen, who won five medals in swimming at the 1988 Summer Paralympics, later won medals in equestrian at the 2000 and 2004 Games? Source: [56]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Lohn Estate
- Comment: If possible, save for Paralympics (24 August - 5 September)
Created by Joseph2302 (talk). Self-nominated at 10:09, 3 July 2021 (UTC).
- for the Paralympics. Recommend ALT1 as more hooky. Article is long enough and well reffed including the hook fact. Well designed hook. Sadly no image (sound of paralympic.org's foot receiving bullet fired at close range). No sign of close paraphrasing. Nice work Joseph. Thanks Victuallers (talk) 10:29, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
Refugee Paralympic Team at the 2020 Summer Paralympics
- ... that the world's 82 million refugees will be represented at the 2020 Summer Paralympics by the Refugee Paralympic Team (flag pictured)? Source: "The team represents the more than 82 million people ..."
- ALT1:... that ...
- Reviewed: Haley Cavinder
- Comment: happy to have this appear whenever
Created/expanded by Victuallers (talk) and Boldblazer (talk). Nominated by Victuallers (talk) at 14:45, 4 July 2021 (UTC).
- article is new enough, big enough, no obvious copyvio. The hook is (tragic and) interesting and short enough. The QPQ checks out too. This is good to go. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 19:28, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
- Comment: Please hold for publication during the Paralympic Games from 24 August to 5 September. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 08:20, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
Lorraine Lambert
- ... that it is suggested that UK shooter Lorraine Lambert has improved chances at the Tokyo Paralympics, due to her new designer bra? Source: "better Optical sensors attached to Lorraine’s gun suggest that her accuracy has improved, as a result of the new bra"
- ALT1:... that British Paralympian shootist Lorraine Lambert had her leg removed after surgery repeatedly failed to fix damage created while rock climbing? [57]
- ALT2:... that sensors suggest that Lorraine Lambert's new bra has improved her chances of winning a Paralympic medal for shooting? Source:see above
- Reviewed: Susan Beharriell
- Comment: feel free to make changes to the hooks and to the article or add an alt hook with the info that you feel should be revealed. For the Paralympics please
Created by Victuallers (talk, polished by Simeon). Self-nominated at 17:28, 21 June 2021 (UTC).
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Overall: Article is long enough at 1,700 characters, no copyvio and QPQ is good. All of the hooks are pretty interesting but only ALT0 and ALT2 are adequately sourced. The source for ALT1 is not a secondary source, since it looks like Paralympic.org pulled the quote from Facebook and Youtube. My only other concern is that the article could do with better sourcing, as two out of five sources are profiles and one is of uncertain weight (the Disability Shooting Great Britain link). Only two are proper news articles which would meet guidelines. If one or two reliable sources got added, then I would be ready to approve ALT0 or ALT2 as is. BuySomeApples (talk) 01:58, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
Article has been beefed up a lot with great sources, all three hooks are cited and interesting. Great job on this article by the way! Lorraine has a very interesting story. Do you have a preferred hook Victuallers?BuySomeApples (talk) 20:23, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks @BuySomeApples: for the tick. Collateral benefit of the expansion is that her colleague Issy Bailey also now has an article and she is waiting at DYK too. I think Alt2 is the hookiest hook and its a step away from "...Ms X was the first medal winner..." Victuallers (talk) 08:32, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
- Awesome @Victuallers:! I reviewed and approved the Issy Bailey nom. Keep up the great work!BuySomeApples (talk) 05:03, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
Alia Issa
- ... that Alia Issa, the first woman competitor to enter during the Paralympics opening ceremony will be the first woman refugee to compete at any Paralympics? Source: ""
- ALT1:... that ...(have a go)?
- Reviewed: Sjerstin Vermeulen
- Comment: the Paralympics opens on 24 August so please save for then if poss
Created by Victuallers (talk) and Melcous. Self-nominated at 07:38, 1 July 2021 (UTC).
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Overall: Hook is interesting and well sourced - I have added a link to refugee. I think this is good to go, hold off until August 23/24 if possible for opening of Paralympics. Note: this is my first DYK review so happy for someone else to check and comment. Thanks Melcous (talk) 07:42, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
Evelyn van Leeuwen
- ... that Evelyn van Leeuwen won a wheelchair basketball silver medal at the 1996 Paralympics and twenty years later she won a bronze at the 2016 Games? Source: "Twenty years earlier in Atlanta she also participated and then won silver"
- ALT1:... that ... (have a go)
- Reviewed: eastern shovelnose ray
- Comment: for the Paralympics pls
Created by SportsOlympic (talk) and Victuallers (talk). Nominated by Victuallers (talk) at 11:47, 11 July 2021 (UTC).
- Article is new enough and long enough, with sources throughout. AGF on the Dutch language sources. The 1996 and 2016 medals are sourced in the lead, though the 1996 appearance is not mentioned in the body as it should be. This is not a DYK requirement though. Article appears to be written neutrally, and QPQ is done. Please promote for the Paralympics. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:23, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
Issy Bailey
- ... that when Paralympian Issy Bailey was in Stoke Mandeville Hospital, she had so many injuries, that shooting seemed to be the best option? Source: "...handful of sports as pastimes, but I had a lot of broken bones and internal injuries, so took to shooting whilst more physical sports were a bit beyond me. "
- ALT1:... that ...?
- Reviewed: Esra Yıldız
- Comment: for the Paralympics she is a pistol shooter. Hint: I know the hook has two meanings
Created by Victuallers (talk). Self-nominated at 14:44, 17 July 2021 (UTC).
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Overall: Article is new enough, long enough and well sourced. Hook is cited to an interview with the subject of the article/DYK, which means it is reliable enough for this purpose. BuySomeApples (talk) 01:28, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
Bernd Jeffré
... that German paracyclist Bernd Jeffré may have lost his 2010 Berlin Marathon race as he didn't wear enough clothes?Source: [58] "Hätte er halt auf seine Frau gehört, dann wäre er jetzt möglicherweise Sieger. Aber nein, Bernd Jeffre musste ja den harten Burschen geben. "Zieh dir doch noch was an", hatte seine Frau am Start gesagt. Passt schon, erwiderte Jeffre. Tja, sagt Vico Merklein, "Bernd ist ein nordischer Typ. Er war wohl etwas zu leicht angezogen, sonst hätte er vermutlich gewonnen". ("If he had listened to his wife, then he might now be the winner. But no, Bernd Jeffre had to give the tough guy. "Put some clothes on," his wife said at the start. It's okay, Jeffre replied. Well, says Vico Merklein, "Bernd is a Nordic guy. He was probably a little too lightly dressed, otherwise he would probably have won"")
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Frozen II
- Comment: Paralympics holding area (24 August - 5 September)
Created by Joseph2302 (talk). Self-nominated at 16:33, 12 August 2021 (UTC).
- OK, it's new enough and long enough, and I see no signs of plagiarism. Joseph2302, can I suggest something for the hook? "...because he didn't listen to his wife and didn't wear enough clothes"? Drmies (talk) 18:50, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
- I'm fine with ALT1:
... that German paracyclist Bernd Jeffré may have lost his 2010 Berlin Marathon race because he didn't listen to his wife and didn't wear enough clothes?Joseph2302 (talk) 10:31, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
- I'm fine with ALT1:
Drmies (talk) 12:22, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
- Very sorry to all concerned, but let us please have a hook without any contractions. Joseph2302 and Drmies, how does the following strike you:
ALT2: ... that German paracyclist Bernd Jeffré may have lost his 2010 Berlin Marathon race because he did not put on more clothes when his wife suggested it?—BlueMoonset (talk) 23:57, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
- BlueMoonset, if we're really concerned about contractions, let's just spell them out fully and keep ALT1. Personally--well.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Drmies (talk • contribs)
- My suggestion to remove the "didn't"s would be:
- ALT3: ... that German paracyclist Bernd Jeffré may have lost his 2010 Berlin Marathon race because he ignored his wife and did not wear enough clothes? Joseph2302 (talk) 08:34, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
for ALT3. Again, I think this contraction thing is silly, but let's get Joseph's article on the front page. Drmies (talk) 13:07, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
Abbas Karimi (swimmer)
- ... that refugee swimmer Abbas Karimi, who is scheduled to compete at the 2020 Summer Paralympics, has won national championships in Afghanistan, Turkey and the US? Source: Paralympics, Afghanistan & Turkey: [59], US: [60]
- ALT1:... that swimmer Abbas Karimi was the first refugee athlete to win a World Para Swimming Championships medal? Source: [61]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Nicoll Highway MRT Station
- Comment: Paralympic holding area (24 August-5 September) please
Moved to mainspace by Joseph2302 (talk). Self-nominated at 16:46, 18 August 2021 (UTC).
- ...New enough, long enough, no copyvio issues. Hooks in article followed by inline citations to references with hook facts. QPQ provided. Both hooks okay. For Paralympic holding area (24 August-5 September) please. Whispyhistory (talk) 10:32, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
October 3 (date of event)
2021 London Marathon
- ... that today's London Marathon will have 50,000 runners, and another 50,000 virtual competitors? Source: [62]
- ALT1:... that today's London Marathon includes runners Shura Kitata and Brigid Kosgei (pictured), who won last year's event? Source: [63], [64]
- ALT2:... that today's London Marathon is the 22nd consecutive appearance at the race for David Weir (pictured)? Source:https://athleticsweekly.com/athletics-news/brent-lakatos-and-nikita-den-boer-to-defend-london-marathon-titles-1039948564/
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Death of Orville Blackwood
- Comment: Date request: 3 October (day of race). Picture for ALT1 only. Course section is mostly copied from 2019 article, but more than enough unique content
Created by Joseph2302 (talk). Self-nominated at 17:27, 12 August 2021 (UTC).
- * ... New enough, long enough, QPQ provided. Hook in article followed by citation to a source containing hook fact. No copyvio issues. Images clear and free....for ALT1. If proposed hook used, then check nearer the time that the figures remain same. Okay with me to use on 3 October. Whispyhistory (talk) 12:03, 13 August 2021 (UTC)