November 28
Template:Disenchantment
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Clearly fails WP:NENAN, it includes two links: the parent article and a singular episode article. -- /Alex/21 23:43, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:01, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
Template:Infobox T&W Metro station
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- Template:Infobox Manchester Metrolink station ( · talk · history · links · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Infobox station ( · talk · history · links · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
Propose merging the above into Template:Infobox station.
Proposing merging these two low-usage UK railway station templates into {{Infobox station}}, which follows the July discussion that merged the main GB railway templates.
Sample converts of these templates can be seen in my sandbox, User:ProcrastinatingReader/sandbox2. I think these look much 'prettier'; Heworth_Interchange#Metro is a bit of a mess and the templates horribly out of date.
Data is carried over with two exceptions: "Distance from datum" on the T&W template, which is pretty much trivia especially for an infobox, and "[number of] Escalators", same reason. As for styling changes, consensus from the GB station merge & post-merge discussions should apply, for example the A-Z "List to stations" will be removed. To accommodate for colours on the Manchester set, a Module:Adjacent stations system will be created (already done for T&W at Module:Adjacent stations/Tyne and Wear Metro). For remaining points, see sandbox mockup. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 23:41, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
- Support: There is no need to have separate infobox templates for two small systems. I agree with the removal of the two trivia parameters. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 00:03, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
- Support, these two templates have no significant differences in functionality. Cards84664 02:47, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
- Support - Don't see any good reason to have the infoboxes be seperate, and the proposed converts seem OK. Jumpytoo Talk 09:57, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Long overdue. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:05, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
- Support: agreed with the above points MJ (talk) 16:43, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
- Support per nom. ETI 15TrSF (Chat Box) 05:06, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. WT79 (speak to me | editing patterns | what I been doing) 18:07, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
Template:Balance of Power tracks
- Template:Balance of Power tracks ( · talk · history · links · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Out of the Blue tracks ( · talk · history · links · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
Track listing templates are typically reserved for albums that have articles on the majority, if not all, of its songs. Only a few songs from each album have articles and navigation to them is already provided by the {{Electric Light Orchestra singles}} template. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 20:22, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
- Comment Shouldn't other Electric Light Orchestra album track list templates also be nominated then? Most of them have the same issue as Template:Balance of Power tracks and Template:Out of the Blue tracks. Maxorca (talk) 21:09, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
- Most likely. I came across these during my review of the daily updates at User:AlexNewArtBot/AlbumSearchResult. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 00:44, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
Template:Most-produced aircraft
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Nominated for discussion and possible deletion here following an initial discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Aircraft#Template:Most-produced aircraft. Essentially this falls afoul of WP:INDISCRIMINATE and the concerns brought up in the essay Wikipedia:Avoid template creep, plus it duplicates the article we already have: List of most-produced aircraft. Ahunt (talk) 17:46, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
- Note: Notification of the existence of this TfD has been made at WikiProject Aviation and WikiProject Aircraft, within whose scope this article falls. - Ahunt (talk) 17:47, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. — Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 21:58, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
- Delete. This is useful as a list, but not as a template. The nominator explains well why this is. - The Bushranger One ping only 00:05, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
- Delete - Per nom. BilCat (talk) 00:12, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
- Delete - Clearly of no encyclopedic use as a navigation tool, just a bunch of indiscriminate links. MilborneOne (talk) 18:30, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
- Delete Per nom. TSRL (talk) 20:51, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
Template:Off wiki Covid 19
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Redundant to {{User health inactive}}; we don't need the additional maintenance burden of templates for individual maladies. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:25, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
- Redirect to or wrappify around {{User health inactive}}. It'd be nice to make that template a little more flexible, so that it's possible to spell out the issue or use a custom image if someone wants. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 00:37, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
- Merge to {{User health inactive}}. The name of the template is a slight pet peeve for me tbh, maybe deleting it would be better? —hueman1 (talk • contributions) 10:48, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
- Comment There's lots of wikibreak templates that overlap - stress, personal issues, discouraged, busy, and frustrated all come down to "not in the mood for WP at the moment" - and there's a separate template for mental health, too. What's one more of these, and one which fits its own niche and is relevant to the biggest medical issue in living memory? That said, I really don't mind if it's deleted, it's not become very widely used. If the multiple params functionality could be merged, though, there could be lots of uses in the general health template. Kingsif (talk) 14:11, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
Template:Old move
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- Template:Old moves ( · talk · history · links · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
Propose merging Template:Old move with Template:Old moves.
Redundant template. The whole setup of {{Old moves}} should be replaced with Lua similar to {{Old XfD multi}} or {{Copied}}. Soumya-8974 (he) talk contribs subpages 12:52, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
- Comment that needs rebuilding of {{old moves}} to support formulaic parameterization of multiple inputs, instead of it currently being used to wrap a user generated list (which should also be supported). {{old move}} is also missing a parameter to a permalink of the discussion. -- 65.92.246.246 (talk) 04:40, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
- Support. The distinction seems to be plural old move requests versus just a singular old move request, but we should try to handle that at just one template. Longer-term, we should move toward automating this sort of thing (perhaps through Twinkle, etc.) so that old moves automatically get listed. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 00:41, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
Template:Infobox US Supreme Court case
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- Template:Infobox US Supreme Court cases ( · talk · history · links · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
Seems to be an unused fork of Template:Infobox court case modified slightly for SCOTUS cases. I presume creator wasn't aware at the time that Template:Infobox SCOTUS case exists.
Proposing to redirect both to Template:Infobox SCOTUS case. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 09:17, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
- Delete, and rename the original template to "Infobox US Supreme Court case". Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:28, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
Template:Friendly tournaments 2021
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WP:TOOSOON for this navbox; only one known tournament linked. Jalen Folf (talk) 05:48, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
Template:HBO
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This is an unnecessary template and was previously deleted as a duplicated template in early 2019. Requested speedy deletion but was contested by creator. What should have been done is a discussion on recreating the HBO template, as what the creator effectively did was recreate a duplicated template with a few more articles, a few plain text names (should be avoided), an executives, defunct and former ventures, and a miscellaneous sections — this could have been added to the HBO section of the WarnerMedia Studios & Networks template that it is part of (have added the rest there except the executives with it being part of WarnerMedia), and there is the problem of having too many templates. The Defunct and former ventures section is problematic in that there is information that belongs in the article which would have references to support it, whereas this is a navbox for navigating. Steven (Editor) (talk) 23:45, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
- Response: AFAIK, as a frequent viewer and editor of the HBO article, I have never seen a dedicated template regarding the network in the timeframe he claims. The template was created close to two months prior, based on reasoning similar to that behind the creation of other television-network-specific templates (or technically, in this case, operating unit) that focus on their multinational corporate structure (e.g., Template:BBC, Template:ESPN, Template:Nickelodeon); I'm not sure how the ones cited have better basis to stand compared to this, especially considering HBO has as widespread an asset portfolio as the cited networks. The editor tagging the template for deletion (whose edits to the HBO and WarnerMedia templates appear to be among the only non-school-focused edits in his contribution history) also severely undermined his case, as he had copied and pasted the entire structure of Template:HBO into Template:WarnerMedia Studios & Networks (compare the section from this version in September to the current section layout); some of the HBO template's content wasn't included in the WarnerMedia template beforehand, including a list of former properties operated by Home Box Office Inc. that would normally not be included in a template for media conglomerates like WarnerMedia due to their strict focus on properties currently under their purview. An alternative solution I had was to embed the HBO template as a WarnerMedia child template (e.g., how the Warner Bros. template is already structured), but the editor rejected the idea offhand and repasted its contents... this was after another user overseeing a prior speedy deletion request deemed that request insufficient to stand. Moreso, the editor twice chose to remove the template from all HBO-related articles (including HBO and Home Box Office, Inc.) in breach of standard protocol that usually allows a template marked for possible deletion to stay on its accordant article(s) until a decision to delete occurs. Much of the issues cited by the editor appear to be bureaucratic in nature, than based on standard WP content rules. TVTonightOKC (talk) 12:27, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
- See the deletion log. You recreated the template two months ago. Wrong, you copied what was listed in the HBO section of the WarnerMedia Studios & Networks template and added further content when you could have just added it to this template instead of recreating the HBO one (re-read my description above!). Contribution history is irrelevant (it's more than that, but schools is my main focus at present), this is an encyclopedia. If fact, you were the editor that caused a mess with the WarnerMedia related templates! You contested the speedy deletion. There isn't that much to add for HBO to require a standalone template. I removed the template after moving the rest of the content into the HBO section of the WarnerMedia Studios & Networks template — the problem we had in articles is unnecessary duplication of articles in the two templates — why need two when it can be sufficiently covered by the one? Steven (Editor) (talk) 19:54, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
- Again, coming from a repeat editor of articles relating to HBO and its sister assets, I had no knowledge of the existence of an HBO template existing previously. None of the content was copied from the WarnerMedia Studios and Networks template, but was sourced from the Home Box Office, Inc. asset list. The double-bracket was the only format error, which I fixed, and I tried to format the treeing of the HBO template in a manner that avoided such errors. Under WP rules, the creator of a tagged template/article has the right to contest speedy deletion, if they disagree with the reasoning behind it, since they can't remove the speedy deletion notice themselves. Also, considering HBO has several current and defunct services that have operated worldwide, the claim "there's nothing much to add" would seemingly invalidate the the other network-specific templates I cited, since Template:ESPN has duplication with Template:Disney and Template:Nickelodeon has duplication with Template:ViacomCBS by that logic, but both have been able to stand because other editors have expressed no issue with their existence. Sections like "Defunct and former ventures" and "Miscellaneous" that were in the HBO template would not normally be included in templates for most media conglomerates like WarnerMedia because the focus is typically and strictly on the existing company assets. Treeing Template:HBO into Template:WarnerMedia Studios & Networks (as the Warner Bros. template is already) would have been much more sufficient to address your "duplication" claim rather than deleting the former entirely. TVTonightOKC (talk) 13:58, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Primefac (talk) 02:18, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
Country templates part 1
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the template(s) or module(s) below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).
The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 18:28, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
- Template:NSW Country color ( · talk · history · links · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:NSW Country lines color ( · talk · history · links · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
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- Template:NSW Country lines style ( · talk · history · links · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:New South Wales railway stations with suffix ( · talk · history · links · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:S-line/NSW Country lines left/Binnaway- Werris Creek ( · talk · history · links · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
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- Template:S-line/NSW Country lines left/Bombala ( · talk · history · links · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
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- Template:S-line/NSW Country lines left/Brewarrina ( · talk · history · links · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
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- Template:S-line/NSW Country lines left/North Coast ( · talk · history · links · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
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- Template:S-line/NSW Country lines left/Sandy Hollow – Gulgong ( · talk · history · links · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:S-line/NSW Country lines left/South ( · talk · history · links · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
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- Template:S-line/NSW Country lines left/Troy Junction - Merrygoen ( · talk · history · links · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:S-line/NSW Country lines left/Troy Junction – Merrygoen ( · talk · history · links · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:S-line/NSW Country lines left/Tumut ( · talk · history · links · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:S-line/NSW Country lines left/Unanderra-Moss Vale ( · talk · history · links · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:S-line/NSW Country lines left/Warren ( · talk · history · links · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:S-line/NSW Country lines left/West ( · talk · history · links · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:S-line/NSW TrainLink left/Mungindi ( · talk · history · links · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:S-line/NSW TrainLink lines left/Mungindi ( · talk · history · links · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
43 deprecated {{s-line}} NSW Country templates replaced by Module:Adjacent stations/NSW TrainLink and Module:Adjacent stations/State Rail Authority. Fleet Lists (talk) 02:11, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
- Delete Per nom Jumpytoo Talk 10:39, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
- Delete Per nom - but don't we have a CSD criterion for housekeeping? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:58, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
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