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I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Again, welcome! Empire AS Talk! 06:18, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
Filipe Nyusi
What do you need help with on the article? ~EDDY (talk/contribs)~ 03:32, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Editorofthewiki: I need help with editing for NPOV and making the article better generally. It's kind of overwhelming and I was hoping that someone with more experience with the subject of Mozambique and Wikipedia in general could help. It's currently locked down due to ongoing disputes. Your input would be very much appreciated. Thanks! Tyrone Madera (talk) 03:36, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
- I'm mostly here to test WP:REPLYLINK on a simpler thread structure, but Gryllida asked for feedback on a draft intro at article talk. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 13:07, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
Teahouse
Given your newness to Teahouse, I suggest you refrain from criticizing the actions of experienced Teahouse hosts, as you did of Hoary. See my comment about your comment. David notMD (talk) 09:09, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
- @David notMD: My bad, I've retracted my earlier comment. I get really worked up/upset at perceived injustices and/or rudeness online. I think I need to calm down and chill out. I shouldn't have done that and I apologize for being rude myself (and for criticizing the actions of Hoary, an experienced Teahouse host). I'm not really used to users speaking bluntly, and I've had the same kind of reaction once before. Do you have any advice for someone working on these issues? Thank you for your help in getting used to talking on Wikipedia. Tyrone Madera (talk) 18:38, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
- First, never remove or amend any comment on any Talk page if another editor has commented since. Exceptions: OK to change a comment if no one has yet commented after, and editors are free to delete as much content as they want from their own Talk pages. Other than that, hold off on commenting about other editors, which is entirely different from disagreeing with their comments. David notMD (talk) 21:32, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
- @David notMD: So if I disagree with a previous statement I've made I should just add another comment. Doesn't that make it confusing if you change your mind multiple times? Should I go back and re-add the comment or is it already too late? What should I do if someone is acting inappropriately? Wouldn't that require me to comment on other editors in order to address the issue? Did I respond in the right way by apologizing? I'm sorry if I'm responding with too many questions. Tyrone Madera (talk) 22:11, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
- Actually, I went back and restored your comment about Hoary. Yes, the preferred process is to add a reply that reverses what you wrote before. I have done this as follow-up to comments made too hasty or before morning caffeine fix. You can also apologize on an editor's Talk page for a comment made at Teahouse or an article Talk page, but that is not a replacement for making amends where the original comment was made. The ground rule for Wikipedia is be courteous. Again, dispute content, but do not attack or disparage the editor making the content. David notMD (talk) 22:16, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
- @David notMD: So how do I know if something isn't criticizing actions a dispute of content, in the case of a comment? Writing comments is an action. Also, you deleted my last comment at the teahouse. Tyrone Madera (talk) 22:40, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
- Actually, I went back and restored your comment about Hoary. Yes, the preferred process is to add a reply that reverses what you wrote before. I have done this as follow-up to comments made too hasty or before morning caffeine fix. You can also apologize on an editor's Talk page for a comment made at Teahouse or an article Talk page, but that is not a replacement for making amends where the original comment was made. The ground rule for Wikipedia is be courteous. Again, dispute content, but do not attack or disparage the editor making the content. David notMD (talk) 22:16, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
- @David notMD: So if I disagree with a previous statement I've made I should just add another comment. Doesn't that make it confusing if you change your mind multiple times? Should I go back and re-add the comment or is it already too late? What should I do if someone is acting inappropriately? Wouldn't that require me to comment on other editors in order to address the issue? Did I respond in the right way by apologizing? I'm sorry if I'm responding with too many questions. Tyrone Madera (talk) 22:11, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
- First, never remove or amend any comment on any Talk page if another editor has commented since. Exceptions: OK to change a comment if no one has yet commented after, and editors are free to delete as much content as they want from their own Talk pages. Other than that, hold off on commenting about other editors, which is entirely different from disagreeing with their comments. David notMD (talk) 21:32, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you, both. I am very thick-skinned, and unperturbed by criticism of my conduct, so the chiding didn't/doesn't worry me. David notMD is right about the need not to remove one's own comments other than in very limited circumstances. What you can do more freely is strike them out, using <s>this markup</s> (
example), adding a brief explanation that you struck them out at such-and-such a time, and usually adding a replacement comment. NB don't strike out other editors' comments, no matter how asinine they may seem. (Particularly offensive items can be removed, but I'd strongly advise you not to remove any, no matter how good your intentions, until you are a lot more experienced.) -- Hoary (talk) 22:57, 3 March 2021 (UTC)- @Hoary: Thanks!!! I'm glad that I didn't cause you any offense. Do you know the best way to disagree with users while making it not look super critical? What does NB mean? Tyrone Madera (talk) 23:11, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
- In the Teahouse, if a question seems stupid (not just uninformed but stupid), I suggest that you ignore it. If a response seems unhelpful or rude, I suggest that you ignore it as well, and just provide a better response. If it seems factually incorrect, don't be afraid to say so, clearly and straightforwardly. If somebody is rude to you in the Teahouse, probably better to ignore it: a third party will probably see it and act upon it. Outside the Teahouse, your disagreement may be entirely appropriate; but sorry, I can't immediately come up with any rules of thumb for how or how not to go about it. Perhaps it's a good idea to see how others' disagreement can be effective, and to try to learn from that. "NB" is short for nota bene, meaning (in English, not necessarily in Latin) "please note that"; thus "NB don't strike out [...]" means "Note that you shouldn't strike out [...]". -- Hoary (talk) 23:38, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Hoary: Thanks again! :) Tyrone Madera (talk) 00:40, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- In the Teahouse, if a question seems stupid (not just uninformed but stupid), I suggest that you ignore it. If a response seems unhelpful or rude, I suggest that you ignore it as well, and just provide a better response. If it seems factually incorrect, don't be afraid to say so, clearly and straightforwardly. If somebody is rude to you in the Teahouse, probably better to ignore it: a third party will probably see it and act upon it. Outside the Teahouse, your disagreement may be entirely appropriate; but sorry, I can't immediately come up with any rules of thumb for how or how not to go about it. Perhaps it's a good idea to see how others' disagreement can be effective, and to try to learn from that. "NB" is short for nota bene, meaning (in English, not necessarily in Latin) "please note that"; thus "NB don't strike out [...]" means "Note that you shouldn't strike out [...]". -- Hoary (talk) 23:38, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Hoary: Thanks!!! I'm glad that I didn't cause you any offense. Do you know the best way to disagree with users while making it not look super critical? What does NB mean? Tyrone Madera (talk) 23:11, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
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