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Revision of the Euronews Radio info
Hi, Why did you revert my changes about the Euronews Radio? The information is not correct: the radio service has not been functional for at least half a year. So please put it back. Best, HuhuLesny (talk) 11:25, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
- Hello! The information in that section is correct; it simply states that Euronews Radio was launched in 2012 (which is true). I reverted your revision because I believed it falls under original research. Checking whether or not something works counts as research, meaning that you have to cite a published source confirming it. However, I later noticed that many more parts of the article are unsourced, but I don't have the time right now to clean up the entire article. ―JochemvanHees (talk) 01:18, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
Eurovision 2021 semi final map
I don't know how to edit svg maps, but 2020 map shouldn't be here now because Armenia is out. Armenia should have been turned into gray and then it should have been a new file. But as I don't know how to edit svg maps, I asked user Avis28 who did a 2020 one, to do for 2021 as well. 009988aaabbbccc (talk) 19:18, 5 March 2021 (CEST)
- Ah good call to ask someone to do it. I personally think a map is better than no map, as it's not that terribly wrong or something. But if it's getting fixed then that's good. ―JochemvanHees (talk) 20:02, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
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Robert McClenon (talk) 02:03, 8 April 2021 (UTC)Side events locations info placing - ESC21
Well since that paragraph also mentions the abolition/modification of other side events due to the pandemic, I think it should be at the close of the "impact of the pandemic" section instead? Also including that at the top of the 'Locations' section right away would confuse casuals.--Pdhadam (talk) 11:12, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
- I guess it does kinda fit in both, but I think that especially the info about the turquoise carpet should be in the location section. That's also where it is in articles about previous editions. Maybe we could move it to the bottom of the location section though, under an "Other sites" header. The "Impact of the COVID-19 pandemic" section falls under the "Production" section, so my logic was that it only contains things relevant to the production of the contest. Although maybe we could also mention in short that due to COVID-19 the other side events are not going ahead. ―JochemvanHees (talk) 12:34, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
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Mz7 (talk) 00:27, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
List of World Series champions
Regarding this reversion of vandalism, I can tell you what it's about. Back in 1961, when Roger Maris was chasing Babe Ruth's single-season home run record, Ford Frick, the Commissioner of Baseball and biased towards Ruth, said that he might have two different lines in the record book, as Ruth hit 60 home runs in a 154 game season while Maris was playing in a 162 game season. After Maris broke the record, the powers that be added an asterisk after the record with a footnote denoting the season length. The asterisk has since been used by fans as a way to delegitimize certain records, like Barry Bonds' career home run record, or teams that cheated like the 2017 Astros. It's vandalism, and I thank you for reverting it. – Muboshgu (talk) 00:58, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
Having fun at the audience?
How's Eurovision? I saw you wrote sometime ago at some edit you attend, and quite obvious with you being so devoted and fan and with places in Netherlands relatively close and easily reachable. The crowed, although relatively small, seems and sounds extremely enthusiastic and loud. Are you enjoying yourself? :) אומנות (talk) 06:29, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, totally! I was at the first-semi final and I will be at the final tomorrow. It is incredible to be there, with so many fellow Eurofans around it's an amazing atmosphere. And the show is an enormous spectacle; it's really impossible not to cheer and sing along. The only disadvantage is that afterwards I have a lot of stuff to catch up on, including Eurovision content that I missed like the press conferences, and also study-related stuff. So that's why I have a lot less time left for wiki editing (which is why my reply is so late, sorry!) ―Jochem van Hees (talk) 21:33, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
- I'm very happy for you, having amazing experiences even. I also thought about how you doing there, and wanted to wish you a good time, as I saw your vast dedicated contributions and kind communication the past months - including until few days ago when I still looked at some Eurovision articles. So despite you being more busy now, how you still dedicate time for Wikipedia. :)
- I worked during 2019 Eurovision and prioritized to even watch the contest from home also for comfort reasons, and only attended 2 unofficial parties at night during the week, but still those where amazing in themselves as well with famous Eurovision winners. Also got the chance to be on an amazing Eurovision-and general music performances Mediterranean cruise including performances from Eurovision winners and other participants on the ship.
- Still, hope one day to attend Eurovision too, with a good viewing and a chair (don't have capability to stand for hours). Sorry you miss watching the press conferences at home, although you can try going with a journalist or get a journalist-tag (many fans manage to get them and enter the press conference themselves, as well people considered journalists for writing blogs and on fansites) so you may be even present at the conference once the contest finishes, as I assume it's right next-door or close nearby the contest's hall. The show does look amazing with the pyrotechnics, especially Greece's staging impressed me. And a bunch of songs in diverse genres are surprisingly very much to my taste, with strong energetic performances.
- To share bit further, every edition after 1995 (the highest quality edition in my opinion) has only few songs I really like, with emotional and high notes range and deep lyrics. North Macedonia and Denmark 2021 with their more yesteryear styles (high notes emphasized ballad and Schlager), didn't make it as less in fashion on the music scene nowadays which is a shame for my taste, though other songs like Greece which fuse 1980s Dance in a fresh way, made the final. So there are a bunch of other good songs at the final too and very energetic performances, more than in 2019 and the cancelled 2020. My favorite is Italy, as almost every year lately and many previous years, including 2020 where I firmly believe Italy would have won. So, I wish for Italy to win now and in general think it's about time. BTW you responded quickly although you're busy. Thank you for this, and in general for your kind communication and professional contributions the past months, why I also really wanted to wish you good time this week and wish you keep enjoy your awesome Wikipedia contribution, have the best time tonight. אומנות (talk) 08:00, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
Deleting the Italian lyric's censorship incident
Why wouldn't you call this incident? Who says what an incident is? Is the fact it is a lower scale than another incident doesn't make it an incident? The definition of Incident, according to Cambridge English Dictionary is: "an event that is either unpleasant or unusual". It is unusual that words are being censored in the contest, and in other years' articles (such as 2005) it does mention such an even as incident.
Therefore, I believe it is a relevant information that needs to be mentioned on the Incidents section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Danyzack02 (talk • contribs) 14:11, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
- Yeah this was a rather bold edit. My reasoning was that it isn't really one event, just something about the song (which should be on its own article). But I agree that it is unusual. (Also there doesn't seem to be an incidents section for the 2005 article?) ―Jochem van Hees (talk) 14:36, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
New article
What you think about it? Talk:Damiano David.--ParoleSonore (talk) 17:16, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
- I don't know, I am not familiar with the notability criteria for people, and I also don't know much about him in particular. Articles like these often start out as stubs with few sources so maybe it'll just take some time. ―Jochem van Hees (talk) 18:42, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
UK Download chart on "Embers"
Per WP:CHARTMATH, we don't include component charts (that is, the statistics of one chart that make up another, bigger chart) in wikitables when the song charted on the main chart of a country. As "Embers" has now charted on the main UK Singles Chart (and downloads are included in a song's placement on that chart), we should now exclude the download chart—you might notice the download chart is not included in other tables where the main UK chart is (and if it is, an editor who doesn't know we shouldn't do this has snuck it in). Download sales really don't mean a lot in 2021 and are overwhelmingly dwarfed by streaming numbers, so number three or even number one on a download chart now isn't anything significant. Number one on a streaming chart is a bigger indication of a song's actual popularity. Also, we generally disregard alphabetical order when it comes to the main UK Singles entry being placed before UK Indie. Other articles have set the precedent for this, and other editors are apparently in agreement considering there's been little to no dissent on the matter. Thanks. Ss112 18:58, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- Ah I didn't know that. Thanks for the explanation! ―Jochem van Hees (talk) 19:01, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
Samira Efendi
Hi. Thanks for help with resolving the dispute regarding Efendi. But I think there is one more issue that needs addressing in Armenia–Azerbaijan relations in the Eurovision Song Contest. Popmatters writes that "she called Armenians “terrorists”". But another source writes that "the petition stated that Efendi has “openly attacked Armenians” by sharing taglines that called Armenians “terrorists”. The Change.org campaign has not listed a direct citation for the comments that Efendi allegedly made. [1] So the actual claim was that she shared taglines, but did not actually call Armenians terrorists. But then even that is questionable, because no evidence was provided. I checked the petition, and indeed, it actually claimed that she shared taglines, so it is bad journalism from Popmatters. What do you think is the best way to address this, because in present form the claim is actually slanderous? Grandmaster 16:14, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
- As far as I can tell, PopMatters is a reliable source according to Wikipedia guidelines, and is cited across the site. I also don't find it bad journalism, it's just their interpretation of their source. But if you think that the current phrasing is wrong, and you can cite your "another source", then WP:FIXIT. ―Jochem van Hees (talk) 23:08, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
Gjon's Tears
Hi. Please check Gjon's Tears talk page. Btw I had already provided sufficient arguments so I think it would have been more considerate to have informed me first before making the edit.John07234 (talk) 18:15, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
- I will take a look. I made that edit because that was the status quo before the edit war started (and personally I think the admin should have done that in the first place). Also, because you didn't reply, it's hard to tell if that means you agree or haven't seen it or something else. ―Jochem van Hees (talk) 18:44, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
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Gjon's Tears
Check my edit, how much info and arguments I need to give ? I thought it ended but the guy continues. I provided info,sources and enough arguments and still somehow it's not enough. Anyway thanks for reading this. Cheers — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:587:E246:E300:5937:463A:124B:2AB9 (talk) 00:05, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
Thank you
Hey! Thank you for handling the corruption in the page Eurovision Song Contest 2021! I tried to handle, then I see you already handled. Idoc07 (talk) 21:56, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for the thanks! (Does that make sense? Whatever.) I actually recently found out that it's quite easy to undo multiple edits at once; when you look at a diff of the whole range of edits (which you can do easily by clicking "cur" on the last stable version), you can then click the undo link to the right of the "latest revision as of" text. That has sped up my vandalism reversions quite a bit. ―Jochem van Hees (talk) 22:01, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
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hello, it's me. I'm so sorry about the bad contribution I did to amogus. I'm really, really sorry. MegaValenX (talk) 11:32, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
(Web-)API
Hi, if this is the wrong place, just delete this comment. It's about https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=API&oldid=1044840208
I'm quoting you: "The first two do not say anything about confusion between APIs and web APIs, the third one is a blog"
You are misunderstanding these "sources". There is no scientific paper on this (as far as I know), if that is what you were searching for. Instead, these "sources" are examples of the widespread confusion. Any other idea how to "prove" that trend?
1) Despite its title, the video *means* Web API, but names it "API". The software product behind it does so as well.
2) Similar case here: "postman" is some online platform talking about "API" all over the place. But it actually means only(!) the specific type "Web API".
3) You should have noticed that the third one was taken from the chapter "History of the term". Yes, it has "blog" in its URL. So what? Does that eliminate its contents? In Firefox, it renders quite well. And some user already cited the important part of it, so you should be able to see the point.
and 4) Listen to any advertisement or talk to some "mobile" developer... As soon as you hear "API", it will exclusively mean "Web API". How do you cite that?
80.139.202.62 (talk) 11:02, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
- That there are some examples of people using "API" instead of "Web API" does not at all mean that "the generic term API is heavily confused with its specific form Web API". Instead, add a source that actually says that there is such confusion. Although I do agree now that I was wrong to dismiss the third source – I added it back. ―Jochem van Hees (talk) 13:40, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
I think that you are only concerned about the word "heavily". Maybe that was too much, and I agree that one or two examples are not really a "proof", but when it's that easy to find examples, I consider it an empirical/statistical "proof". It's a common, observable fact, which you actually don't need sources for. I could write that to a web page and then cite it, but that doesn't make sense to me. ;) You will see, in near future, nobody will understand how APIs could have ever existed before the advent of the HTTP protocol.
Anyway, thanks for partially reverting the revert of the revert of the revert. Have a good weekend.
- Haha, have a good weekend to you too :D. (Although by the way, self-published sources are usually not considered reliable by Wikipedia.) ―Jochem van Hees (talk) 16:03, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
Lithuanian selection dates
Adding a comment here just to be clear. I get your point about WP:SYNTHESIS, I simply thought this rather falls under WP:CALC. Best :) 〜イヴァンスクルージ九十八[IvanScrooge98](会話) 16:27, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
- The thing is though that as far as I can tell the source does not say how long it is until the final will take place. That's just being assumed based on what we know about previous years (one show a week). ―Jochem van Hees (talk) 16:35, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
- Mmh, you are right about this, though it seems to me reasonable enough (even without considering previous years) that it is highly unlikely the shows will take place less frequently than once a week. 〜イヴァンスクルージ九十八[IvanScrooge98](会話) 16:39, 1 October 2021 (UTC)