Edit regarding Tao Wells
Hi, I made an edit regarding Tao Wells. I refered to him as a 9/11 conspiracy theorist due to a number of posts he made to his facebook account "Wells Tao" where he referred to scientific modelling of the collapse of the World Trade Center as "fake" and said "If you believe a little plane made this engineering marvel collapse (referring to the World Trade Center) twice, you need to do some research." He subsequently deleted comments on his post which showed scientific modelling regarding the collapse of WTC1, WTC2, and WTC7, and referred to them as fake news. He also posted an article to his blog on May 1st, 2015, entitled 'the visible donut hole in the pancake theory" detailing what he saw as "holes" in scientific theories surrounding the collapse of the world trade center. Mr Wells is, in fact, a 9/11 conspiracy theorist, and it's in the public interest that the wikipedia article makes that clear.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.225.189.216 (talk)
- We need independent reliable sources (and several of them) to source such a claim in order for it to be in the article. We can't just rely on your opinion, no matter how accurate it might be based on his internet postings. Please review WP:BLP. 331dot (talk) 08:16, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
Are his own social media posts not considered reliable sources of his viewpoints? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.225.189.216 (talk • contribs)
- No, because Wikipedia summarizes what independent reliable sources say about someone, not what they say about themselves. If you have independent sources that report on his viewpoints, that would be acceptable, but not merely his own postings. Using his postings as a source and then saying he is a conspiracy theorist based on that is original research, again, no matter how accurate it might be. Wikipedia cannot determine him to be a conspiracy theorist itself, but it can report on others calling him that. 331dot (talk) 08:23, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
now SantaBarbaraArtHistory
Hi. As far as I can see, Sullivangoss has gone ahead and created a new account while still blocked, for SantaBarbaraArtHistory. That was actually the name they requested in their unblock request. They're working on a new draft not one but two Sullivan Goss gallery artists: Draft:Patricia Chidlaw and Draft:Nicole Strasburg. I see these as I have a regular "draft+artist" search. Seems like their interest is solely in promoting their gallery. I will leave you to deal with the socking and block evasion, as my comments perhaps got in the way last time. --- Possibly ☎ 21:31, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
Hello
Can you please see this page Pramod Bhagat. Even after protection by Titodutta once here, the IP and unconfirmed users continue to change his birthplace from Hajipur as referenced by many reliable sources to incorrect Attabira, Odisha. Please see it's talk page for further information. This page needs to be semiprotected for few months atleast. 🌌Zoglophie🌌 15:59, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
- I'm not, at present, in a position to address this. Please request page protection at WP:RFPP. 331dot (talk) 17:04, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
Speedily Delete
I wasn't trying to promote or use as a social media site. I was adding the criteria that nucrash had suggested last year. I wasn't trying to promote my campaign. Can I reupload page if I take the senate stuff out? I'm a little confused.
Thanks— Preceding unsigned comment added by Dr. Gena Ross (talk • contribs)
- Dr. Gena Ross Please read my help desk comments. My advice is that you not attempt to write about yourself(or enlist a campaign worker or any third party to do so). It's only going to end in frustration and hurt feelings because you don't meet the criteria for an article, see WP:NPOLITICIAN. Once you are elected to Congress, you would then merit an article- and as a representative-elect someone would eventually write about you.
- Please read about how a Wikipedia article is not necessarily desirable. If you still want to attempt this despite my warning, you must use Articles for creation. 331dot (talk) 20:33, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
A "YouTube channel" is a website
Please comment at User talk:NWIndianaElevators. --Orange Mike | Talk 14:07, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
Help
Hi. I need some technical guidance. I have helped new editors many times by giving them Wikipedia tutorials in person. I also conduct offline workshop occasionally as there are lack of editors in our state. As due to place and internet availability issues, I need to use my internet connection or laptop to teach them. I refrain from using my connection or laptop due to fear that I might be accused of sockpuppetry in future. Are my fears right? Can I use my laptop or connection to create new accounts for them or teach them? What should I do? --Gazal world (talk) 17:18, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
- Gazal world I think the best thing to do (assuming you have the technical means to) would be to create a video of yourself creating an account(or using WP:ACC to request one) that you could then provide to others.
- So if you want to create accounts for others, there are two paths available. If you want to be a volunteer who works on account creation requests submited to WP:ACC, you could seek the Account Creation permission. If you want to create accounts for others as part of an event that brings others to the project, you can seek the event coordinator permission. The option involving ACC would probably not help you since you want to create accounts for specific new users, so you would probably want to seek event coordinator permission. 331dot (talk) 17:37, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for your reply. I don't think I should apply for 'Account Creation permission' or 'event coordinator permission' anytime soon. I will apply for these rights when I need them. For now, I am tutoring my student-friends from my own laptop. I am not giving them video tutorial because I am currently with them, and I believe tutoring them in-person is more effective. --Gazal world (talk) 07:33, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
- Certainly you can guide others in creating accounts, and good luck in doing so. 331dot (talk) 07:50, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
- Hi. Sorry for bothering you again, but I observed a weird thing. This is because I have no knowledge about technical stuff. When one of my students try to create Wiki account, they receive 'Account creation error' See this image. The person has never edited Wikipedia, never created account. So how did this happen? Is there any solution --Gazal world (talk) 15:13, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
- I think that might be beyond my expertise; I think someone at the help desk may know. 331dot (talk) 16:38, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
- Ok. No problem. I will ask someone else. Thanks. --Gazal world (talk) 16:49, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
- I think that might be beyond my expertise; I think someone at the help desk may know. 331dot (talk) 16:38, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
- Hi. Sorry for bothering you again, but I observed a weird thing. This is because I have no knowledge about technical stuff. When one of my students try to create Wiki account, they receive 'Account creation error' See this image. The person has never edited Wikipedia, never created account. So how did this happen? Is there any solution --Gazal world (talk) 15:13, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
- Certainly you can guide others in creating accounts, and good luck in doing so. 331dot (talk) 07:50, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for your reply. I don't think I should apply for 'Account Creation permission' or 'event coordinator permission' anytime soon. I will apply for these rights when I need them. For now, I am tutoring my student-friends from my own laptop. I am not giving them video tutorial because I am currently with them, and I believe tutoring them in-person is more effective. --Gazal world (talk) 07:33, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
Articles for deletion/LuckyDesigns
This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because... (the person being discussed is a notable figure within their industry and achievements )— Preceding unsigned comment added by Cloudz2000 (talk • contribs)
Re: Partner Engineering and Science, Inc.
23:01:44, 21 September 2021 review of submission by Kim at Partner ESI
- Kim at Partner ESI (talk · contribs)
Hello, I would like to know why the article was rejected twice for the same reason (reading like an advertisement), when the page for Wiss, Janney, Elstner Associates, Inc. is very similarly written. If there is a specific part in the article that reads like an advertisement, can you please explain which part? I'm not sure what else to change. Thank you. Kim at Partner ESI (talk) 23:01, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
- Kim at Partner ESI Please read other stuff exists. Other similar articles existing does not automatically mean yours can too. It could be that these other articles are also inappropriate. As this is a volunteer project where people do what they can when they can, it is possible for inappropriate articles to go undetected, even for years. We can only address what we know about. If you want to pitch in and help us manage the six million plus articles here, please identify these other articles you have seen for possible action.
- The draft is advertising because it just tells about your company and what it does. Wikipedia articles must do more, they must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the company, showing how it meets Wikipedia's special definition of a notable company.
- I see that you declared a conflict of interest, if you are an employee you must make the stricter paid editing declaration. 331dot (talk) 23:11, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
- I will add that the best articles to use as a model are those classified as good articles. 331dot (talk) 23:12, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
To clarify: what is being questioned are my sources? The sources I included are not enough to establish notoriety? I added the paid declaration to my talk page now. Kim at Partner ESI (talk) 00:02, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
- Kim at Partner ESI The sources just cite various business transactions. That does not establish notability (not "notoriety" which has a negative connotation) as Wikipedia defines a notable business, at WP:ORG. A Wikipedia article should not just summarize the routine business transactions of the business, such as raising capital or acquiring a competitor, or similar. A Wikipedia article about a company must do as I describe above. 331dot (talk) 00:39, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Teamwork Barnstar | |
I always see your work here! You deserve it, at least, I think you deserve it!:) Banzhowen (talk) 11:17, 26 September 2021 (UTC) |
Battle For Dream Island Wikipedia page
Battle For Dream Island is an animated web series with anthropomorphized objects, it was created 3 times, once in 2011, and twice in 2013. It got deleted for not being notable enough, and eventually it got permanently banned to be created by an admin (who is no longer an admin, that’s why I’m not asking him) but this was at the time Jacknjellify the YouTuber who made the animated web series only had around 6k subscribers, which is small. Now they have over 1 million subscribers, and it seems like that’s notable enough, compared to other YouTubers on Wikipedia.
While subscribers doesn’t guarantee it’s notable enough on Wikipedia, BFDI (Battle For Dream Island), created an entire community of object shows with as described before anthropomorphized objects.
Battle For Dream Island was also mentioned on this Wikipedia page on animated series’ so I think it deserves a Wikipedia page now, can you reallow it to be created? Because as mentioned before the admin who banned creating it, is not an admin anymore. WikiMakersOfOurTime (talk) 18:02, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
- WikiMakersOfOurTime What matters is if this topic gets significant coverage in independent reliable sources that have chosen on their own to write about it, showing how it meets Wikipedia's special definition of notable web content. If you have that, you may create and submit a draft at Articles for Creation. 331dot (talk) 18:09, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
Thanks
For your thoughtful comments at the Hakuho ITN nom. I do appreciate them, even though it faces a bit of an uphill battle to get consensus. Pawnkingthree (talk) 22:18, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
Conversational Advertising - Paid Interest
Apologies I was not aware of where to add the paid interest. I have added this to my page as suggested. The wiki page written is sourced and I make no reference to the client. Our intention is just to make a particular type of advertising known, this supports any company that is involved with conversational advertising and is not specific to the client, hopefully this helps. What are my next steps? Should I resubmit? or can you edit and approve?
- LucyDigitalVoice Thanks for disclosing. If you are not editing about a specific client, but a general part of your industry, you are probably okay to resubmit. I will say Wikipedia has articles or drafts, not mere "pages". This is a subtle but important distinction. I would urge you to, if you haven't already, review Your First Article. 331dot (talk) 13:33, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
Hi
Hi! I am a new user, and my name is Peter (in hungarian "Péter"). Have a nice day! Szerkesztő5555 (talk) 09:54, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
My request for an IP block exemption
Via the Unblock Ticket Request System I filed the following request:
Hello, I hereby ask for an IP block exemption for the account "Marsupium" on the English Wikipedia per WP:IPEXEMPTCONDITIONS. Today after many times before I've run into a range block, this time of 46.183.96.0/21 while trying to edit from the network of the German long distance train system that I use regularly. I don't need the exemption for editing anonymously via proxy but rather to bypass the range block. For the same reason a global IP block exemption was granted to my account (cf. https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&logid=30718168). A previous request I made in January 2021 expired before it was answered by anyone unfortunately. For any questions I'm available at my talk pages at the English Wikipedia or other Wikimedia wikis or wikimail. Thanks a lot for any help in advance, Marsupium
You've declined that request giving the advice to make the request from my account, while giving the IP address. In the request I gave the IP range "46.183.96.0/21", my specific IP in that case was 46.183.96.17.
When logging in at https://utrs-beta.wmflabs.org/ under the "For administrators that are here" tab and trying to file a new request this action is aborted with the message "This action can only be performed by users who are not logged in." Now I'm kind of helpless where to make the request from my account. Fortunately, today I'm not reliant on the concerned IP range, but I will be again in the future. Hence, I'd be very happy to resolve the complicated block issue beforehand in order to be able to edit the next time and for any help telling me where to put the request. Thanks in advance, --Marsupium (talk) 10:10, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
- Marsupium You should click on "If you have a user account" to make your request, not the administrator only area. 331dot (talk) 12:17, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for the reply, I think I've done that the last time already. After submitting a message was displayed that the appeal is incomplete and an IP missing or similar, I've edited the appeal, added the IP and I think it was converted into an appeal for a case without a user account. This happened to me this time again, when trying to file yet another one leaving the incomplete state as is the system complained about "spam our system with appeals". I'll try again later and leave a note here. --Marsupium (talk) 13:29, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
Thewordoftodd
There are things that you can do on your end to adjust how you view Wikipedia.
What things?--Bbb23 (talk) 13:18, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
- I think screen settings can be adjusted. Unless I misinterpreted the comment(certainly a possibility). 331dot (talk) 14:25, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
More than one, less than two
I actually met Moshe Levi back in the day. He was really nice. And really tall (as advertised). El_C 21:20, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – October 2021
News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2021).
- Following an RfC, extended confirmed protection may be used preemptively on certain high-risk templates.
- Following a discussion at the Village Pump, there is consensus to treat discord logs the same as IRC logs. This means that discord logs will be oversighted if posted onwiki.
- DiscussionTools has superseded Enterprisey's reply-link script. Editors may switch using the "Discussion tools" checkbox under Preferences → Beta features.
- A motion has standardised the 500/30 (extended confirmed) restrictions placed by the Arbitration Committee. The standardised restriction is now listed in the Arbitration Committee's procedures.
- Following the closure of the Iranian politics case, standard discretionary sanctions are authorized for all edits about, and all pages related to, post-1978 Iranian politics, broadly construed.
- The Arbitration Committee encourages uninvolved administrators to use the discretionary sanctions procedure in topic areas where it is authorised to facilitate consensus in RfCs. This includes, but is not limited to, enforcing sectioned comments, word/diff limits and moratoriums on a particular topic from being brought in an RfC for up to a year.
- Editors have approved expanding the trial of Growth Features from 2% of new accounts to 25%, and the share of newcomers getting mentorship from 2% to 5%. Experienced editors are invited to add themselves to the mentor list.
- The community consultation phase of the 2021 CheckUser and Oversight appointments process is open for editors to provide comments and ask questions to candidates.
BCN3D
Thanks for reviewing the revised article. While I understood why the original was rejected, this is less clear to me. I added several new reputable sources (e.g., El País, Crónica Global, Business Insider España), all of which had substantial stories on BCN3D Technologies within the last year or two. Is the problem that they're Spanish-language publications? Would appreciate any further insight you can provide into your decision. Jhofferman (talk) 23:17, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
- Jhofferman The sources seem to mostly be announcements of routine business activities, which does not establish that the company meets Wikipedia's special definition of a notable company. A Wikipedia article about a company should not just tell about the company and what it does, but it should summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage (which does not include interviews, brief mentions, announcements of routine business activities, etc) choose on their own to say about it. Please see Your first article. 331dot (talk) 23:21, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
Dave Donovan
You deleted the article without responding to my contesting of the speedy deletion, the article did not meet the criteria, as the banned user did not create the page in violation of their ban. The page was created in October 2020, whilst the user was banned in October 2021.
The subject also meets the notability requirements, particularly considering all the other Australian journalists of less note who have Wikipedia articles and thus I have recreated it. --Simba1409 (talk) 08:23, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
- The user you speak of was a sock of another user. 331dot (talk) 08:24, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
- I'd also urge you to review other stuff exists. It could be that the other journalist's articles you speak of are also inappropriate. 331dot (talk) 08:27, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
-- There is no claim or evidence that the DanJensen account was the sock of another person who was ALREADY banned before the Dave Donovan page was created.
Regardless of other journalists, as the owner of an online media organisation David Donovan is clearly notable. --Simba1409 (talk) 08:40, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
- Simba1409 Anyone can remove a PROD, so that's fine. I simply restored it since that wasn't why I deleted the article. I reviewed Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/MickeyViolet. Since you recreated it yourself this discussion is largely academic, but you can challenge speedy deletions at deletion review. 331dot (talk) 08:46, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
This account above looks like another sock. Ten years inactive and suddenly creating articles from drafts? Come on! --Pete (talk) 10:28, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
Howdy. The meat-puppet is also being a bit of a jerk, by continuing with the "...get over it" bit, in his posts. His apparent refusal to indent his posts, is also annoying. GoodDay (talk) 07:53, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
Tractorsarethecoolest
I put his unblock request on hold. He got renamed, and I think from his request it might work out for him. Any thoughts? Daniel Case (talk) 04:41, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
- Daniel Case I might be missing something but I think that they are an employee of Trackless Vehicles Ltd. ("This Wikipedia user is not paid to write content; "unintentional self-promotion") and should abide by COI/PAID with regards to their company and possibly when writing about competitors. That said, if you are satisfied, that's fine with me, I'm not particularly invested in it. :) 331dot (talk) 08:58, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
Piratenation101 article draft "Ginny Favede"
Please excuse my confusion if this is the incorrect place/way to post this. I recently saw your message on the Ginny R. Favede draft, but still feel that several of the sources would constitute reliable secondary sources that establish notability (e.g., https://www.heraldstaronline.com/news/local-news/2020/03/wheeling-university-president-ginny-favede-works-to-reverse-enrollment-decline/). I understand that primary quotes within the article are sometimes commonplace, but there is a large body of newspaper material establishing this woman's credibility from a strictly editorial, journalistic perspective. If perhaps I'm misunderstanding your point about reliability of secondary sources, could you possibly give an example from the following related page (another university president from West Virginia) of a source that I should include instead? Jerome A. Gilbert
Thanks so much again. Really just trying my best to learn the ropes and help out. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Piratenation101 (talk • contribs) 14:35, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
- Piratenation101 It's not the sources themselves that are the problem, but their content. They just tell what she does, not why she is important- and the ones that go into detail seem to do so by quoting her. There needs to be in depth coverage of her personally, not just what she does. I would note that the article you linked to above is also marked as problematic, and has the same issue. The best articles to use as models are those that are classified as good articles. 331dot (talk) 14:55, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
- 331dot Thanks so much for the helpful resource. I will try to find some sources that fit the mold of what's present in the Good Articles directory.
- Out of curiosity, what marks the difference between a problematic article being accepted (as was the case with the Jerome A. Gilbert page I linked) and a problematic article of similar ilk (such as mine) not being accepted? And, do such problematic articles need to be taken down or listed for admin attention? Again, just trying to learn the ropes--you've been most helpful. Piratenation101 (talk) 15:05, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
- Piratenation101 A completely valid question. Only non-autoconfirmed users are required to submit drafts using AFC; once autoconfirmed, it is no longer required and such users may create articles directly. Some problematic articles also predate the creation of the AFC process- but either way, it's possible to create articles without it. It's still a good idea to use that process until one gets several articles accepted, and gains the experience, even if technically able to create articles without that process. If one creates articles directly, it is assumed they know what they are doing and any issues are treated a little more harshly. 331dot (talk) 15:44, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
- Problematic articles, when detected, are usually marked for attention(just as the Gilbert article is) and given time for the problem or problems to be addressed. If that does not happen, or there is some urgent issue that cannot be resolved, it can be nominated for deletion using one of the available processes. 331dot (talk) 15:47, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
- Out of curiosity, what marks the difference between a problematic article being accepted (as was the case with the Jerome A. Gilbert page I linked) and a problematic article of similar ilk (such as mine) not being accepted? And, do such problematic articles need to be taken down or listed for admin attention? Again, just trying to learn the ropes--you've been most helpful. Piratenation101 (talk) 15:05, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar | |
Thanks so much for all of the useful advice, 331dot!
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I'm slightly confused with this block you made against عمرو السعدوني:
Who was he a sockpuppet of anyway? DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) (contribs) 23:37, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
- I'm not entirely sure, but there is a concerted effort to attempt to create an article about a nonnotable actor. Possibly meatpuppetry more than socking. 331dot (talk) 00:00, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
Suspect MEAT
As user User:Shahp67 who joined today, has started editing at the same article as User:Hillary1900, and with similar kind of edits, I have asked for a disclosure at their talk page. Jay (Talk) 06:52, 8 October 2021 (UTC)