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June 5
Adding to a name
Why won’t you allow me to create a person’s Wikipedia page? I have info about the person through club website and league websites but it won’t allow to start it.
- Unsigned comment apparently added 2021-06-05T01:18:50 by User:Queen2021.
- @Queen2021: Have you seen Help:Your first article? DavidMCEddy (talk) 01:24, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Queen2021: New users can't directly create articles in mainspace. You should go through the Articles for Creation process and start a draft instead. Just make sure that the subject is notable by Wikipedia's standards and that you have reliable sources, or your work will be deleted. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 01:39, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Queen2021: to stress something not covered in Tenryuu's, you will need reliable secondary sources (news, books, etc) - club and league websites alone are not sufficient. Nosebagbear (talk) 11:42, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
How to Swap Radio Station articles
Two radio stations owned by the same company near Ottawa, Ontario, Canada had swapped frequencies in December 2020.
I'm trying to find out how to swap radio station articles as this one may be tricky and tedious!
CKBY-FM moved to 92.3 FM, still listed as CJET-FM. CJET-FM moved to 101.1 FM, still listed as CKBY-FM.
Anyone have any ideas on how to swap radio station articles due to their call sign changes? Or can someone here whose excellent with radio station articles can make these changes? Thanks! 64.118.28.8 05:05, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
- I don't see why you need to swap anything. You simply update those two articles to record that each of them changed its frequency on such and such a date (preferably with a citation to a reliable independent source). Remember that this is an encyclopaedia, not a news source or directory. While we like articles to be up to date, it is if anything more important that they record the (cited) history of their subjects.
- If the source says that the two of them swapped frequencies, and you feel that that is encyclopaedic information, you could mention that in the text you add. --ColinFine (talk) 18:16, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
Oldest fathers on Wikipedia
Courtesy link: List of oldest fathers
I looked at Oldest fathers on Wikipedia where it all starts since 75. Nobody is there with Canada. I became a biological father at 75 and my wife is 39. My daughter Sophie is 10 weeks old. My question is what documents should I submit to be in the Oldest father section. ??? And where to submit using E mail. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Osik454 (talk • contribs)
- Osik454, feel free to contact a journalist or two and to interest them in your feat of virility. When this is written up in reliable, independent, published sources (and not before), an editor here may add your name. -- Hoary (talk) 06:44, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
- In case it's not clear what point Hoary is making, Osik454: it is a fundamental principle that all information in a Wikipedia article must have been published already in a reliable source. --ColinFine (talk) 18:25, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
Interlanguage links capitalisation
Hello. Look at the image on the right. There are some languages links, but there are something wrong. For example, 'Español' and 'Français'. These two languages must be their initials letter in lower case (Español must be español, and Français must be français). But now both are capitalised. How can I fix this? Thank you. --TKsdik8900 (talk) 06:27, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
- Why would they need to be in lower case? The rest of the sidebar uses capital letters, no reason why the interlanguage links should use lower case for first letter. 'Español' and 'Français' are how I'd expect them to be written in English sentence case. Joseph2302 (talk) 11:45, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
- Likely because that is how the French and Spanish write the names of their own languages. MediaWiki returns the autonyms for the languages:
{{#language:es}}
→ español{{#language:fr}}
→ français
- Isn't this is a Wikidata issue?
- —Trappist the monk (talk) 11:57, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
- You might want to alter your Preferences to take advantage of the facility described "here on mediawiki"., TKsdik8900 which will give you a consistent capitalisation and (in my case) all with English spellings / translations. Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:40, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
- Likely because that is how the French and Spanish write the names of their own languages. MediaWiki returns the autonyms for the languages:
Pages in my userspace
I think I might have lost track of a few pages in my userspace. How do I search for all pages below my main user and user talk pages? Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 12:44, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Dodger67, the Special:PrefixIndex-page is what you are looking for: Special:PrefixIndex/User:Dodger67/. For the ones in your user talk space simply go to Special:PrefixIndex/User_talk:Dodger67/ or adjust the namespace filter. – NJD-DE (talk) 12:49, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
- Njd-de Yes, that's it! Thanks. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 12:52, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
Changes to be made on my wikipedia
Courtesy link: Ragasya
Hello, this is actress ragasiya here. There are many of my movie projects that are not listed nor my theater work is listed. I want to list all my work that i have done recently. And also i want to update my picture for wikipedia. I tried contacting you several times sir. Please look in to the matter. I am ragasiya myself the actress sending u this message. Even my social work that i have done is not updated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Exstacyca (talk • contribs) 13:48, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
- Hello, Exstacyca. I'm afraid that, like many people, you have a fundamental misunderstanding of what Wikipedia is. Wikipedia's article Ragasya may be about you, but it does not belong to you, and it is not in any way for your benefit. As you have a conflict of interest, you should not edit that article directly, but instead you should make edit requests on the article's talk page - see the link for the details of how to do that. Note that, if you do not provide a reference to a published source wholly unconnected with you, then it is unlikely that your request will be carried out: Wikipedia is not interested in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is only interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. --ColinFine (talk) 15:09, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
- It can be very helpful for the subject of articles to upload a new picture provided they own the copyright and are willing to license the image for free use. In practice, since the copyright of photographs is almost always the photographer, you should upload a "selfie" by following the instructions of the upload wizard at c:Special:UploadWizard. If you subsequently make an edit request on Talk:Ragasya asking for the old photo to be swapped for your new one, that request is almost certain to be accepted. Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:32, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
A question about grammar
There is a question about Wikipedia's grammar at User talk:Baffle gab1978 ([[User talk:Baffle gab1978#{User:ClueBot III/ArchiveThis|archiveprefix=}]]). I hope that somebody will respond to that. Thanks. Sawol (talk) 14:32, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
Question) Which is right? (1) @ColinFine and Tenryuu: User talk:Baffle gab1978 [1] (17:29, 1 June 2021 (UTC)) made Old revision of User:ClueBot III/Indices/User talk:Baffle gab1978 (18:43, 1 June 2021 (UTC)). But [2] (22:47, 1 June 2021 (UTC)) made Old revision of User:ClueBot III/Indices/User talk:Baffle gab1978 (13:24, 2 June 2021 (UTC)) and User talk:Baffle gab1978/Archives/. User:Baffle gab1978 said that "(2) has been fine for years." Archiving to [User talk:Baffle gab1978/Archives/] means that
Question) Which is right? (1) |
Have I properly formatted this citation template?
Have I properly formatted this citation template? The citation is using Template:Cite AV media.
- Raymond, Robert (Director); Thorne, Alan (Narrator); Buckley, Anthony (Producer) (1989). Roads Without Wheels (DVD). Man on the Rim: The Peopling of the Pacific. Falls Church, VA: Landmark Media. 14 minutes in. OCLC 664751633 – via Alexander Street.
There are some animals here too. Paintings probably intended to increase the numbers of animals that could be hunted.
Thanks for your help! Best, Tyrone Madera (talk) 17:12, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
- Yes and no. Raymond's name is not 'Robert (Director) Raymond' nor is it 'Alan (Narrator) Thorne' or 'Anthony (Producer) Buckley'. Director/Narrator/Producer annotations corrupt the metadata produced by the template; see Template:Cite AV media § COinS. The documentation at that template gives an example that uses
|people=
instead of|lastn=
/|firstn=
. If you can get by without the roles annotation (I think that you can but others will likely disagree), then simply remove the roles from|firstn=
because by doing that the citation will render correct (uncontaminated) metadata. Name metadata are not created from|people=
because it is extremely difficult for a machine to decode human names so names without roles is preferred. - Someday, we will probably refine how
{{cite AV media}}
handles all of the various roles that editors here believe that AV media citations must have in order for our readers to locate a copy of the source. - —Trappist the monk (talk) 19:13, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
- Trappist the monk, Is there any way I could incorporate roles without corrupting the metadata, or am I correct in interpreting that it's pretty much a lost cause for this template? Perhaps I'm trying to have my cake and eat it too. Best, Tyrone Madera (talk) 19:51, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
- No. Everything that you put into
|first=
(except, for now, wikilink markup – at the next cs1|2 upgrade, wikilink markup in|first=
will cause cs1|2 to emit an error message) is included in the citation's metadata. Someday when we define appropriate roles for this template; someday when we figure out how to enumerate roles in this template; someday when we figure out how to rank those roles in this template, then we can create clean metadata from the names associated with the roles. Until then, your options are as I described them. - —Trappist the monk (talk) 20:08, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you very much for your help, Trappist the monk. I really related to the final refrain in your post :-)
- Oh well, maybe someday. Thanks again, Tyrone Madera (talk) 20:20, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
- No. Everything that you put into
- Trappist the monk, Is there any way I could incorporate roles without corrupting the metadata, or am I correct in interpreting that it's pretty much a lost cause for this template? Perhaps I'm trying to have my cake and eat it too. Best, Tyrone Madera (talk) 19:51, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
Adding a word & definition
How would I add a word and definition to this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by TigretheDestroyer13 (talk • contribs) 20:00, June 5, 2021 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is, in general, WP:NOTADICTIONARY. Clarityfiend (talk) 20:52, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
- @TigretheDestroyer13: You could try adding it to {{wikt:#|Wiktionary}}, though. What word are you interested in? Mathglot (talk) 07:29, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
June 6
BLP noticeboard
Hello, I would be grateful for your help with managing Biography of a Living Person issues: Lisa Gorton.
As you can see from the sequence of reversions that have taken place over fewer than twenty-four hours, 'Jusdafax' and, before that,'Jamesluiz', have wilfully reverted to their own version of the Wikipedia page about me, and rejected corrections which, as the subject of the page, I believe that I have a right to make.
For ease of reference, please find below my note to Jusdafax. This details inaccurate, not-on-topic, private and misrepresentative aspects of his version. I believe that his rejection of my corrections to the article is malicious.
To JUSDAFAX
I believe that you are in breach of Wikipedia's BLP guidelines. Please immediately restore the page as I wrote it and make no further changes until we have referred these matters to Wikipedia administrators.
Lisa Gorton's secondary schooling is not on topic, and private information.
It is also incomplete information: Lisa attended Preshil for longer than she attended St Catherine's. Your Wikipedia version relies on an interview with St Catherine's school which is littered with inaccuracies.
Lisa did not study poetry under Chris Wallace-Crabbe; or, only with him among many other professors of literature at the University: she did not complete a creative writing degree.
You have also incorrectly named Lisa's undergraduate degree, which is a BA (Hons). The 'Hons' is a year-long addition to the Arts degree.
You have also incorrectly named Lisa's graduate degree. Lisa did not complete a Master of Arts at Oxford. That is a different kind of degree. She completed an MPhil in Renaissance Literature.
Lisa did not win the John Donne Society Award for Distinguished Publication in Donne Studies for her doctorate. She received it for an essay.
Lisa did not work for Scaffidi Hugh-Jones. She was an independent, freelance communication consultant. However, the information is private, and not on topic; and, if career information is to be included, your version is skewed and unrepresentative. Lisa has undertaken many other jobs at various times.
Lisa has never been a full-time writer.
The rest of your article is a stub, and, as such, misrepresents Lisa's writing life. It does not include anthologies that she has edited and been published in; it does not include public events in which she has participated; it does not include all her publications.
Lisa's grandparents are not on-topic.
Livingpersonedits (talk) 01:13, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
- So...you seem to already be aware of WP:BLPN, I'd suggest you take this up there, this does not seem at all like an issue for the help desk. Beeblebrox (talk) 03:37, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
Replacing every instance of a word or phrase with another throughout Wikimedia Commons
Alright so on Wikimedia Commons I'd like to get around to replacing every single instance of the phrase "[[User:Abbasi786786|Abdullah Ali Abbasi]]" (how I've been uploading images for many months) with "[[User:Abbasi786786|Abbasi786786]]". This would not have any affects on anything outside the authorship attribute of the many images I have uploaded to Wikimedia Commons over the years. Is there any way I could go about doing this without resorting to doing it manually? (I have dozens of photos).
Thanks, --Abbasi786786 (talk) 03:04, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
- Wikimedia Commons is a sister project with its own policies. So you'll need to ask at the Commons help desk. Beeblebrox (talk) 03:33, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
- Abbasi786786, on Commons, commons:Help:VisualFileChange.js can be used for this task. Change of a username is one of the examples listed at commons:Help:VisualFileChange.js/samples, with instructions on how to carry this out. ~~ Alex Noble/1-2/TRB 11:08, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Alex Noble: This worked perfectly, thank you for the help! -- Abbasi786786 (talk) 13:41, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
ading a company Name
Greetings,
Can you please inform me how to add my company names to a list of companies in my country ibya. I have all the licenses , registrations etc.
Thank you for your help.
N. Rayes— Preceding unsigned comment added by 1hffhaa1 (talk • contribs)
- 1hffhaa1First, you must review conflict of interest and paid editing for information on required formal disclosures. Wikipedia is not a directory of companies; list articles are meant to collect existing Wikipedia articles, not every possible member of the list. To merit an article, your company must receive significant coverage in independent reliable sources that have chosen on their own to write about your company, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable company. Wikipedia is not interested in what a company wants to say about itself, but in what others choose to say about it(no press releases, announcement of routine business activities, staff interviews, or other primary sources). Ideally, you or anyone associated with you should not be the one to write about your company. If it is truly notable as defined by Wikipedia, someone will take note of your company and choose to write about it. Note that a Wikipedia article is not necessarily desirable. 331dot (talk) 08:02, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
is there an equivalent in EN in providing pages of literature to the German citation style "p. 128 f." ?
In German, it is common in the WP and in any scientific literature to write "page 128 f.", if page 128 is the start page and further referenced information is distributed over the next, e.g., three pages. It is thus an alternative to "p. 128-131". I am translating a German article and have to deal with translating these f.s in the references into something meaningful. Is there an equivalent usable in the en-WP? Pittigrilli (talk) 16:56, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Pittigrilli: the English equivalent is et seq. but is standard in only some types of citations (mostly law). I'd use that only if you can't figure out the exact page range in the original citation. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 17:15, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
- Concur to some extent. wikt:f.#Adjective for a specified page and one other; wikt:ff.#Phrase for a specified page and several others.
- —Trappist the monk (talk) 17:19, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
- Great, thanks! Pittigrilli (talk) 18:09, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Pittigrilli: Various style manuals cover this issue, for example the respected Chicago Manual of Style. To my eyes, the use of
pp. 128ff.
has a somewhat antiquated feel to it; although given the German style where the ending page number is not known, there are not a lot of alternatives. There is one convention sometimes used in printed material, which is an en dash followed by white space, so for example:pp. 128–
but that has the downside of not knowing if someone forgot the ending page number or not; at least the use offf.
is unambiguous. Mathglot (talk) 07:24, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
Conflict of Interest and Promoting
I was told I had a conflict of interest and was promoting but never mentioned my organization in the article I edited. I highly sourced it as well. What do I do if I don't agree with the person rejecting my stuff?— Preceding unsigned comment added by MPELife (talk • contribs) 19:34, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
- Courtesy link: diff Victor Schmidt (talk) 19:43, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
- MPELife, read Wikipedia:ORGNAME. AndyTheGrump (talk) 20:00, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
- Hi MPELife, generally speaking when an editor disagrees with you, you can simply leave them a message on their talk page or in case they left already one on yours simply reply there. Regarding the conflict of interest (COI) and promotion issue: This edit of yours included a phone number as well as link to a website, which is clearly promotional. When I noticed your article Fertility fraud, I also noticed your sandbox page about the organization you had linked to in the disambiguation page. This rang the conflict of interest bells, so consequently I moved the article to draftspace. This does not mean it got rejected. It merely means that someone should properly review it first. This is standard practice when following our COI-guidelines. Also, a COI exists even without mentioning the organization you work for/are affiliated with/get paid by. Regarding the source situation of the draft, some of them are from reliable sources, yes. However large sections aren't sourced at all, and other are put together to support your own research. – NJD-DE (talk) 20:02, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
- MPELife: you converted a disambiguation page into a poorly-written, ungrammatical, and unsourced article. And you included the advice "call 323-TALK-MPE". Any competent editor would have rejected your changes. Maproom (talk) 21:20, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
June 7
Article creation
I want to create an article but i don't know how can you help me? Deborah Jenkins (talk) 00:33, 7 June 2021 (UTC)debbie j
- @Deborah Jenkins: Welcome to Wikipedia, and thanks for wanting to expand it. Check out WP:YFA, which will walk you through the steps, including a wizard that will let you create a draft for review. However, creating a new article is not an easy task. I suggest starting by working to improve existing articles instead, to get some wiki-experience, before diving into create a new article. RudolfRed (talk) 00:47, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
Alright will do👍🥵🥰
Help with s-vac template
Hi, I replaced the s-bef template in an article with the s-vac template to correct the information there, however it is not showing up correctly and I cannot find an error in what I typed. Special:diff/1027272138 Can someone please help? Abbyjjjj96 (talk) 01:22, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Abbyjjjj96: I added an {{s-break}} per the documentation at {{s-start}}, which says the computer won't recognize a new row when {{s-vac}} is used. Seemed to fix the layout. DanCherek (talk) 01:30, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you. Abbyjjjj96 (talk) 01:39, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
Template:Top icon templates
I created a new top icon and added it to Top icon templates. When I go to the page of new top icon, Top icon templates does not show it. Is this issue caused by an error in top icon or its doc? Wario-Man talk 04:02, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Wario-Man: I can see it now, after I purged the {{WikiProject Professional wrestling topicon}} page. I think it was just an issue of the cache not being cleared yet. DanCherek (talk) 04:04, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
hay
Can't i know who is the user who checked and accepted my changes after i do a change(edited) in an article? (in the Arabic Wikipedia I can see, In the History section at the side of any edit it shows how accepted the changes). Thanks --Bmt3s (talk) 04:39, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Bmt3s, most pages on the English Wikipedia don't require editors to "accept" new edits. This is different from other communities like the Arabic Wikipedia. Only when an article has a particularly high level of disruption, administrators may put that specific article under pending changes protection, which means edits from new users to that page will be screened like you describe. These articles are indicated with a special symbol in the top-right corner, such as the one shown at Alyson Hannigan. Otherwise, your edits are live as soon as you make them. Hope this makes sense! DanCherek (talk) 05:17, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you, But in my opinion that is strange, How can yous make sure that they added the accepted informations that is with references and so.--Bmt3s (talk) 05:25, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
Preference question
In the Arabic Wikipedia (that I usually use more) there is option in the Preferences there called: "User Info: Show User access-level and more.." (under the Gadgets section) when enabling it, I can see at ease it the assess level and some statics about the User in there main account user page. My question is: Is there same option to enable in the English Wikipedia? Thanks --Bmt3s (talk) 05:05, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Bmt3s: Looking through the list at Wikipedia:User scripts/List, I think that User:PleaseStand/User info does what you want. Follow the instructions on that page to install the script. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:04, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
- Exactly! Thank you, I hope you can suggest this to the Admins so they can add it to be "real" Option in the Preferences or even default Option. Great! --Bmt3s (talk) 07:14, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Bmt3s: On this Wikipedia, a similar function is given by using Special:Preferences and on the "Gadgets" tab selecting the "Navigation popups" option. Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:15, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
- Exactly! Thank you, I hope you can suggest this to the Admins so they can add it to be "real" Option in the Preferences or even default Option. Great! --Bmt3s (talk) 07:14, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
Guidelines for adding references and citations to articles?
I looked in the FAQ and also did a couple of Google searches but I could not find guidelines for adding references and citations to articles.
Since as a journalist and a PhD student I have used Wikipedia frequently and have often been impelled to add such references, I would like to start doing so. I would also like to do so properly, according to guidelines.
Thanks, Jon Fernquest — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jon Christian Fernquest (talk • contribs)
- @Jon Christian Fernquest: Welcome to the editing side of Wikipedia! Wikipedia policies, guidelines, and other related material can be found in the
Wikipedia
namespace (for example, Wikipedia:Reliable sources). To learn about citing, WP:EASYREFBEGIN is a simple version of how to do so. Just be aware that some pages (particularly those to do with medicine) may have more stringent requirements for reliable sources. As an aside, always sign your posts with~~~~
at the end so that other editors know that you said it. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 05:35, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
Thanks so much. Jon Christian Fernquest (talk) 06:59, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
Why is the information I add being removed from Wikipedia?
Hello everyone, I'm an experienced Wikipedia user. About half a year ago, I wanted to contribute to the development of Wikipedia and started editing it. However, all the information I carefully select and check is removed by other Wikipedia editors. Could you tell me why this is happening? I consider myself an expert; why isn't my expert opinion released?
- We cannot take the word of a random internet stranger as being a subject matter expert and it appears that your edits were merely adding what we consider to be spam links and unreliable sources to articles. BEACHIDICAE🌊 14:12, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
- WP:EXPERT may be of help to you. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:39, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
- Like here [3], the editor who reverted you left a WP:EDITSUMMARY explaining why. You can try to WP:COMMUNICATE with that editor, but see WP:BLOGS, and in this case WP:MEDRS may apply. WP takes a while to get the hang of, but asking questions is a good way forward. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:47, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
- Also, have you looked at your talkpage, User talk:MariWriter? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:53, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
- Please also leave your name to messages by striking the tilde key four times. Thanks for editing! BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 18:28, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
Draft:Mōri Hidekane → Mōri Hidekane
This document is to be handed over to Kobayakawa Hidekane. Originally, we were going to request a move to Mōri Hidekane. ten thousand
Some places use Kobayakawa Hidekane as their official language, so they create a document to hand over the Kobayakawa Hidekane document instead.
I request you to delete the draft document with this document and move it to the title of Mōri Hidekane.
This is a Handover document and I hope it can be moved from Kobayakawa Hidekane to Mōri Hidekane later.
To yield up his first name of the document mōri hidekane and switch over to
Later, kobayakawa hidekane → Mōri Hidekane, Please go if you can. Thank you for reading the request. Gameposo (talk) 15:57, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
- Note: I suspect the above request has been machine translated, and that "handover document" means "redirection". Certainly it is strange that a Draft should be a redirect to a mainspace article, and I'm sure that should be changed. I think the request is actually to move Kobayakawa Hidekane to Mōri Hidekane, and delete the draft that is a redirection: is that right Gameposo? Note that Kobayakawa Hidekane has no references at all, and is therefore completely unsatisfactory as a Wikipedia article. --ColinFine (talk) 16:49, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
- I have made the draft page into a redirect, as it is simple enough CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 17:11, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
Editing on Mobile
Hi! I edit sometimes on mobile, and always have difficulty when adding films/television shows to infoboxes, because of the " and usually have to copy and paste. Is there a " option on mobile? I hope this makes sense. Cinemacriterion (talk) 17:42, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Cinemacriterion: There should be. Most mobile phone keyboards usually have
"
in the symbols tab. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 18:19, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
- Hi @Cinemacriterion: Cullen328 has written a guide to editing on a mobile and gives some links which you might find helpful. Princess Persnickety (talk) 18:31, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
List of tasks
I can't find the list of tasks that used to be available from the task menu at the top of the page; that is, clicks for welcoming newcomers, adding tags to the tops of pages, etc. I must have got rid of this list when I was experimenting with some newly available shortcuts. Any advice? Sorry to bother you, but I've screwed it up somehow, even though I've BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 18:26, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
- BeenAroundAWhile are you talking about Wikipedia:Task Center? ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 19:08, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
- @BeenAroundAWhile: I see that you last used Twinkle on 23 May - is that what you mean? That's at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:29, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
Wikipedia articles that are not just translations...
Hello!
There is problem with this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Re-latinization_of_Romanian It should be a translation of this page: https://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curentul_latinist And it is not. The English version talks about the re-latinisation of the Romanian language which is not 100% true. While the romanian version of the page talks about the "the Latinist current", they are 2 different things... How can this be corrected? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.125.92.26 (talk) 19:25, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
- There is no reason why it should be a translation. It looks like the original author of the English article looked at the subject with a slightly different angle than the author of the Romanian article. That does not make the article wrong. The Banner talk 20:45, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
- Articles linked in the languages sidebar (and behind the scenes on Wikidata) don't need to be translations, but they do need to be on the same topic. Separating them would be an easy task, but I don't know which of the two topics the Russian article ru:Латинизация румынского языка is on. Do you? – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 21:24, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
Questions about redirect pages: Wikipedia Categories and WikiProjects
I have some questions about redirect pages. Thanks in advance.
Say that you have a regular Mainspace article ... and then you create a redirect page to that article.
On the redirect article's Talk Page ... should you list the same WikiProjects that appear on the regular Mainspace article's Talk Page? Or is there some special WikiProject designation for redirect pages? Or do you just leave the Talk Page blank of WikiProjects?
Same questions about Wikipedia Categories: On the redirect article's (main) Page ... should you list the same Wikipedia Categories that appear on the regular Mainspace article's (main) Page? Or is there some special Wikipedia Category designation for redirect pages? Or do you just leave the (main) Page blank of Wikipedia Categories?
Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 20:24, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
- Joseph A. Spadaro, there is guidance on the first question at Wikipedia:Categorizing redirects. I found the guidance via Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Redirect, which is probably a good place for further discussion.
- Category redirects are generated by Template:Category redirect and automatically placed in Category:Wikipedia soft redirected categories. TSventon (talk) 21:51, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
- @TSventon: Thank you very much! Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 18:10, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
Endorse advert template?
Template:Advert is used for stating "This article reads like an advertisement". If such a template has already been placed, but I think the article reads quite particularly like an advertisement, is there a way to endorse the template? JIP | Talk 22:39, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
- JIP, this sounds like a rhetorical question, but the template has options for changing the wording if you wanted to say "This article contains content that is written like a blatant advertisement". TSventon (talk) 07:50, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
finding my listing
I noted that my listing - leadership-as-practice - was deleted. I asked for it to be de-deleted, but I don't see it. How can I find it so that I can edit it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.6.13.54 (talk) 22:56, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
Multiple editors keep making same sort of vandalism to article, not sure what to do
Hey, not sure what to do, but in the article Aha ha, multiple editors have repeatedly been changing the name of the scientist Menke to Monke: [4], [5], [6], [7], and one had the edit summary One of the fellow memesters told me you didn't notice the vandalism in the references. Fixed that.
[8]. I'm not really sure if this warrants page protection, if there's sockpuppeting or what, but hopefully someone here would know. I'd usually go to Wikipedia:Editor assistance but I guess this is where I go no, so hope this is an appropriate venue. Umimmak (talk) 23:30, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
- Umimmak, hi and welcome to the helpdesk. I guess that nothing is the first stage of response, followed by a request for page protection. The accounts are obviously colluding, but probably will not be used again so a sock puppet investigation would not add much value. TSventon (talk) 00:09, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
- Well this has continued to happen even more and also at Aha (wasp)... how do I know when it’s appropriate to ask for page protection and for what kind and for how long? And do I do this myself or will someone more familiar with page protection at Help do that? Umimmak (talk) 04:43, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
- Umimmak, As you have seen vandalisers can just move to a new article,so there is little point in a rapid reaction. I have only used RPP once and I think that was after a week. Perhaps ask here again in a day or two if it continues at high frequency. Semi protection is fine for vandalism by new and IP accounts. I found the process fairly straightforward as you can copy from previous requests, but do ask if you have questions. I think the admin will decide the length of protection. TSventon (talk) 06:12, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
June 8
Co. Article Creation standards, How to Flag a page that does not meet Wiki criteria
Hi, I've been trying to learn how to create a company page and have tried a few. When not accepted, I spend time reviewing requirements, pick another company and start fresh.
Recently I found another already published company Asetek to base the structure on assuming if it had met wikipedia standards, so would it's CoolIT competitor. Despite a lot of effort it has been rejected a few times for different reasons, however based on these reasons the Asetek page does not qualify either. I reviewed further and here is what I have found:
when reviewing Asetek articles 27 references, *more than half do not meet Wikipedia’s requirements: 12 are to Asetek's website & 1 is their annual report (48%), the 1 Slashdot reference is to a forum thread, the Kitguru link is to a Corsair article that only mentions them once, similar problem with the Gigabyte link, and NEITHER Bloomberg links have Asetek content. At all. 66% of the references do not meet wikipedia guidelines.
Only 3 are to Tech Report, 2 to Gamernexus, 2 I added before are legit and another 2 are the same as I've referenced for the CoolIT company. only 9 references (only 1/3) meet wikipedia guidelines.
Therefore, wikipedia only requires 9 references for the Asetek article to qualify, and there are far more than that for the CoolIT article, it qualifies.
Ootherwise, based on wikipedia’s standards, if the CoolIT article does not qualify, neither does the other Asetek - so how does one flag the Asetek article?
From the requirement standard I received that the article must “being written in prose” instead of a decade of organized referenced history, neither Corsair & Asetek qualify, and need to be redone - again, how does one flag these articles?
I disagree that a dated, organized, referenced history does not meet wikipedia criteria, and argue - let's use the Corsair article for example Corsair Gaming - that it adds credibility to the article.
The more I learn about meeting wikipedia's requirements and review other articles, the more subjective the decision criteria appear to be.
I've started another article - this time on a topic - which I will submit once I have the minimum quality references demonstrated to test this standard - including the wall street journal writeup on the topic.
In the meantime, please let me know how to flag pages that do not meet wikipedia criteria, or accept the CoolIT article draft Draft:CoolIT Systems I have created which supercedes the others already published.
I don't really understand the talk pages but here is a link to mine User talk:TheGremlin
Thank you for your assistance --iwanturCAT (talk) 00:38, 8 June 2021 (UTC) jun 2021
- TheGremlin Please read other stuff exists. Each article or draft is judged on its own merits; other similar articles existing does not automatically mean that yours can too. As this is a volunteer project where people do what they can when they can, it is possible for inappropriate articles to get by us. We can only address what we know about. In addition, article standards have changed over time so that what was once acceptable may not be any longer. I have marked the article you mention as problematic for possible action. There are many maintenance templates available to use; you can add them manually, but there are also several tools available to make it easier to add them such as Page Curation and Twinkle.
- I gather that you might have an association with the company you have edited about, if so, please review conflict of interest and paid editing for formal disclosures you may need to make should they apply to you. I've fixed your links to proper internal links, the whole web address is not necessary. 331dot (talk) 00:44, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
- 331dot, I really do understand the concept of WP:OSE and have no problem with it being used to explain why an article might not be acceptable despite superficially being comparable to an existing article. However, I think it would be useful to go beyond that statement and give some advice that a new editor could use. It is quite understandable that a brand-new editor might look to an existing article to use as a "model". That's actually not a bad approach (at least I hope it's not because I've used it myself). The flaw arises when choosing an article that represents the bottom of the barrel, then thinking you've met that standard and being surprised when your article is rejected. I think it would be useful to tell new editors that if they like to look to an existing article for guidance on how to write an article they should start with WP:GA. Find a topic related to the potential subject matter and peruse a couple of selections. This doesn't mean a brand-new editor has to meet the standards of GA to get a new article accepted, but if you strive for something that's in the ballpark, you'll be much more likely to get accepted that if you choose some article that is replete with problems, and get kinda sorta close to that level. S Philbrick(Talk) 01:01, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
- Sphilbrick I will try to keep that in mind, it's good advice. 331dot (talk) 08:32, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
- 331dot, I really do understand the concept of WP:OSE and have no problem with it being used to explain why an article might not be acceptable despite superficially being comparable to an existing article. However, I think it would be useful to go beyond that statement and give some advice that a new editor could use. It is quite understandable that a brand-new editor might look to an existing article to use as a "model". That's actually not a bad approach (at least I hope it's not because I've used it myself). The flaw arises when choosing an article that represents the bottom of the barrel, then thinking you've met that standard and being surprised when your article is rejected. I think it would be useful to tell new editors that if they like to look to an existing article for guidance on how to write an article they should start with WP:GA. Find a topic related to the potential subject matter and peruse a couple of selections. This doesn't mean a brand-new editor has to meet the standards of GA to get a new article accepted, but if you strive for something that's in the ballpark, you'll be much more likely to get accepted that if you choose some article that is replete with problems, and get kinda sorta close to that level. S Philbrick(Talk) 01:01, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
What to do in a particular situation
Hello, I was going through the recent changes and noticed this removal. The IP advised that it was not "relevant". It seems sort of relevant to me but I didn't want to rollback (assuming good faith, of course), just in case other editors felt similar to the IP. What is the general consensus on how to approach these types of situations? And is WP:VILLAGEPUMP a better place for these types of questions? --Abillionradios (talk) 01:26, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
- Abillionradios rollback is for reverting obvious vandalism without leaving an edit summary. Therefore if you disagree with an edit but it isn't obvious vandalism you can revert it in a way that allows you to add an edit summary. TSventon (talk) 02:05, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Abillionradios: This and the tea house are great places for these kinds of questions. The pump is for more technical issues. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 02:10, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
Courtesy link: Draft:Abhenav Mahajit
Published about upcoming new Actor Abhenav Mahajit.
From IMDB to Times of India all the links related to actor Abhenav Mahajit is provided,
Still the page is being deleted by some unknown sources without reading the whole context. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jk GMenon2656 (talk • contribs)
- @Jk GMenon2656: IMDb is not a reliable resource because it's user-generated. External links generally don't link to an actor's social media; that is where links to their IMDb page usually go, though. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 03:12, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Jk GMenon2656:, the draft doesn't have the Times of India in references. You may find WP:Tutorial and WP:GNG helpful. Lightbluerain❄ (Talk | contribs) 03:22, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
- Hello, Jk GMenon2656. Wikipedia does not publish articles about "upcoming new actors". We publish articles about well-established, notable actors. Please read the notability guideline for actors. Also read and study Your first article because your draft has several obvious problems with referencing and formatting. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 03:27, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Jk GMenon2656: Also take a look at WP:TOOSOON and WP:AMOUNT. -Arch dude (talk) 05:06, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
How to get a proposal to reach a conclusion?
Hello, I started a discussion in Wikipedia:Village pump (policy). This is my first proposal. I don't know how to get more Wikipedians to respond to that. I'm afraid that after two weeks of inactivity that discussion will be archived without any conclusion. How can I get more Wikipedians to respond to that so that it reaches a conclusion? Lightbluerain❄ (Talk | contribs) 03:08, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Lightbluerain: VPP is already one of the most viewed pages on the project, so generally putting it there would be considered to be sufficient attention. I would note that really it should be in village Pump (Ideas) because you haven't submitted a fully-formed proposal (which would be something like "if about to template a level 1 warning for test-edits, humour, or unsourced edits, place a welcome message instead") but instead want to have a discussion about what might work Nosebagbear (talk) 11:11, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
Do i cite the wiki
yes — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.187.128.175 (talk) 03:53, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
- I you mean if you can use a wiki as a reference on Wikipedia, the answer is generally no, see WP:USERG. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:15, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
- If you mean, should you cite Wikipedia when using material from it somewhere else?
- If you're quoting material from Wikipedia, you should credit Wikipedia. However, since Wikipedia is self-admittedly not a reliable source (because it can be altered by anyone, sometimes incorrectly, and you may have consulted it before such errors or vandalism have been corrected), you should be aware that for some purposes (such as schoolwork) this may be not be approved.
- If you want to use a fact from Wikipedia, it is better to see what source Wikipedia has cited it to, check the source directly, and then cite that source. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 2.121.163.176 (talk) 10:17, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
How do you source or ref a category?
This edit has just been made to Cosplay. I'm not sure about it, so thought to challenge or at least ask for sources & references to support the addition, but then I wondered - how do you source or ref the inclusion of a category when challenged? Chaheel Riens (talk) 07:00, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
- Chaheel Riens, WP:CATV says "Categorization of articles must be verifiable. It should be clear from verifiable information in the article why it was placed in each of its categories. Use the {{Uncited category}} template if you find an article in a category that is not shown by sources to be appropriate or if the article gives no clear indication for inclusion in a category." The Cosplay article should mention that it is an internet meme and that should be supportable by a reference before the article is put in the internet meme category. TSventon (talk) 07:18, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
- Right - so it's not the cat itself, but the content of the article to support the cat. As the article makes no mention of any memes, I've removed it. Thanks muchly. Chaheel Riens (talk) 10:02, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
formating article export
Hi, can I set the page format for article export (PDF, Book and/or print, whatever)? If so, how/where? Simple stuff like font size, position/aspect ratio of tables and frame of the pages, would be cool to set. Can't find it. Thank you
- @Hennk von Muspelsheim: you have already asked this at the Teahouse, please do not duplicate questions on different helpdesks as it wastes volunteer time. The recommended venue was WP:Village pump (technical), not WP:Village pump (idea lab). TSventon (talk) 13:11, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
Azov Battalion and Wikipedia: Not a forum?
Hello everybody. A user provided a link[9] where the Azov (Battalion\Movement\National Corps), defined by multiple strong RSs as "neo-Nazi", hosted a forum for the Ukrainian Wikipedians[10] (event also reported on Ukrainian Wikinews[11] without any criticism) where editors were awarded for their "contribution to Ukraine's future victory in the information war". Another user closed the discussion with "WP:NOTAFORUM",[12] but I suppose the question is of some interest and importance to the community... I was wondering if there is a place to report this news. Thank you very much.--Mhorg (talk) 13:48, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
Adding person to Wikipedia
How does one add a person and their bio/info to Wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.14.85.95 (talk) 16:01, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
- Welcome to the Teahouse. Please see Your first article, and understand that Wikipedia isn't just a repository for people's biographies; they have to be encyclopedic, which is further complicated by whether or not they meet Wikipedia's definition of notability. If they don't, then an article about them will not be made. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 16:06, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
Routelist template error in List of named state highways in Oregon
There is an error in the Routelist top template in the List of named state highways in Oregon#List of state highways article, exposing the text "[[File:|x25px|alt=|link=]]" in the leftmost Highway column. I don't know enough about this template to resolve the issue. We'd appreciate it if someone could take a look at this and resolve the issue, whether it's an error in the template itself or in the way it's used in the article. Thanks. Truthanado (talk) 16:46, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
- Hello, Truthanado. Looking at other articles which use the template {{Routelist row}}, it is clear that the first column is supposed to contain an automatically generated highway symbol. Presumably somewhere down under the template (presumably in Module:Routelist row) there's something that needs to know the format of Oregon highway badges and hasn't been told. I suggest posting at Template talk:Routelist row. --ColinFine (talk) 18:03, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
New page patrolling
Does new page patrolling require a copy-edit of new article? Dr Salvus 17:45, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
- No, although articles may be tagged with Template:Copy edit or something similar if they need it. The purpose of NPP is simply to triage articles, tagging serious issues while accepting "articles that may not be perfect" but are not so problematic as to require action. You can read WP:NPP if you're curious. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 17:51, 8 June 2021 (UTC)