- Just a note on WP:AGF. This is a very good concept, both here and IRL. But per WP:PACT, AGF until proven otherwise. note 2: Given that the subtleties of English grammar aren't always apparent to all, sometimes just stating the truth is required. In case there any doubt: Good faith is not the same as respect. I can assume good faith, but respect must be earned.
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I have drafted an alternative version of this essay at User:Cullen328/sandbox/One last chance and invite your input. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 23:02, 28 August 2021 (UTC)[]
- Cullen328, Thank you for taking this on. I will have a look, but probably won't get back to you until tomorrow some time. — Ched (talk) 23:16, 28 August 2021 (UTC)[]
- Cullen328, as an officially unofficial stalker of Ched, I took the liberty of having a look at your re-write. I like it. I think you put thought and effort into it and it very much follows along the same lines as the original but without the controversial connotations. Great job, Cullen. When I saw you took it up I knew it would be great having watched your responses on Teahouse and working with you there. --ARoseWolf 12:47, 3 September 2021 (UTC)[]
- Hey there ARoseWolf - great to see you out and about on Wiki - I hope your mending well. To be honest, I feel like I let Cullen down a bit on that. I did read through it, and made a couple notes - but by the time I got back to it, everything I would have changed - had been changed. I'll have to drop by and let him know that I do like it.
- general note - sorry I haven't been doing much here .. hopefully better days ahead. The cooler weather does seem to help a bit; at least until it gets down below freezing. — Ched (talk) 00:05, 5 September 2021 (UTC)[]
Is there a way to go back to the old source stuff? Or is this more of the "shove it down your throat" crap from WMF? I do not like this new "Add topic" interface, I do not like it Sam I Am. — Ched (talk) 14:38, 17 September 2021 (UTC)[]
- (talk page watcher) Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing - at the bottom there are three checkboxes under Discussion pages. You'll want to uncheck "Enable quick topic adding" I believe. More info at Talk pages project/Feature summary ~TNT (she/they • talk) 14:57, 17 September 2021 (UTC)[]
- Thank you @TheresNoTime:, I appreciate the help. I don't remember fiddling with those preferences, but maybe I did. I'm going to have to spend some time looking over all that stuff soon (my reply link not working either). Not really sure how I screwed everything up, but I am grateful for the help. Best always, — Ched (talk) 01:49, 18 September 2021 (UTC)[]
- It sounds like you have the Beta Feature for "Discussion tools" on. That gives you the [reply] took plus some other things. If you want to see the latest soon-to-arrive update, click on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)?dtenable=1 and look for the [subscribe] button for each ==Section heading==. Imagine a world in which you don't have to watch all of ANI to find out what's happening in the one section you care about. WhatamIdoing (talk) 17:44, 25 September 2021 (UTC)[]
- TY WhatamIdoing for the info, and I'll check it all out. Yea - I likely did turn that on. I tend to check out my Prefs once or twice a year to see what's new. From what I gathered (all is back to normal now), I think some of my scripts were interfering with some of my prefs. I like that "subscribe to thread" idea! Hope that becomes standard. — Ched (talk) 18:36, 25 September 2021 (UTC)[]
- Supposedly that will happen "soon" – for the Beta Feature, not for everyone. I don't know whether "soon" means "in a couple of weeks" or "probably someday". But "soon", for some value of "soon". WhatamIdoing (talk) 21:29, 25 September 2021 (UTC)[]
- WhatamIdoing, it's always an honor to have you visit and offer your help here - TY for that, and I should have said so the first time. While I don't always agree with how the WFM spends its money, it's also not my organization, so I don't often say much in that regard. I am however, grateful for any additional tools they provide that makes editing easier. I am glad to see people like you out on the front lines explaining things and helping us adapt to these new changes. I think I first noticed you on Iri's talk, and I've always held you in high esteem - (just in case I hadn't said so before) :-). I know the "Beta" stuff can be buggy (just had a Windows ME flashback). Having worked in the computer tech field for many years - I understand that "Beta" is designed to work out those bugs. Since I've retired from the field (many years ago), I sometimes forget and get a bit pissy about it - but I usually calm down after a bit .. lol. TY for all your help. — Ched (talk) 19:04, 30 September 2021 (UTC)[]
- Thanks for your kind words. I don't actually remember the first time I saw your name. You just always seem to be around when I least expect it.
- Parts of this aren't really "Beta"; they're just "not quite deployed here". As of ~12 hours ago, the [reply] button is out at some 700 wikis now, with only 10 (including this one, which is by far the biggest) to go. It won't work on this page, because of the background color/box. Peter's decided to do some A/B testing on the New Discussion tool (the one you were complaining about), and it's deployment is blocked on a warning notice anyway. (If you think it's bad, then the goal is to not let it be both bad and a surprise.)
- The [subscribe] tool is super-useful, and I can't wait for it ...but I kind of wish there was a magic code that would keep it away from trolls and abusers. Have you ever seen two editors do a rapid-fire fight? You look at the timestamps (and their obviously frayed tempers) later and wonder if they were just waiting for the other one to reply, refreshing the page every few seconds, so they could jump right back in and instantly say he's wrong and I'm right. I wonder if our saving grace is that most of the time, there's only one jerk doing that, and the rest of us don't notice until we deliberately go looking for the other guy's comments (e.g., opening the watchlist).
- Now imagine that every time you open a page, the system goes off and checks for you, and gives you a red notification at the top of the page, so that you will be instantly informed about that jerk's latest reply. Imagine that it does this for everyone. I'm not sure that it will be good for our equanimity. I would be very interested in hearing your thoughts on the story I've been telling myself. Realistic? Unlikely? What do you think? WhatamIdoing (talk) 03:42, 1 October 2021 (UTC)[]
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The Good Heart Barnstar
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Because you are always kind and patient even in contentious situations. Long overdue!
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Littleolive oil (talk) 21:38, 22 September 2021 (UTC)[]
- Awww Littleolive oil, that is so sweet of you. I'm a bit embarrassed, and at a lack of words here. In some ways it feels like ages since we talked, in others it feels like yesterday. I guess that's the way it is for friends, even wiki ones. I think you deserve this for yourself more than me - but I am truly thankful. Bless you. — Ched (talk) 10:16, 23 September 2021 (UTC)[]
- Ched this is so deserved. You are one of the admins I count on for kindness and especially decorum and common sense. No pressure :O). My interest in Wikipedia has waned given some of the losses we've suffered. I've also had a poor connection for several months as I traveled-couldn't even tether to my phone. I hope you've been well. Littleolive oil (talk) 14:42, 23 September 2021 (UTC)[]
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